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Bad battery?

Today I went to use the GPS on my phone and it lasted about 2 min battery still showed at 60% but phone just keeps turning off. When you turn it back on sometimes it shows 50-60% sometimes 1-2% I turned my phone off and let it charge for 4 hours same thing after just a few min on GPS and I can't take a picture with flash at all when it is acting up. The only reason I'm not sure if the battery is the problem is issue looks to be hit and miss right now my phone is taking pictures with flash just fine on battery but I'm not sure how long it will last. My battery is over a year old so I feel that it may be the problem. Has anyone had this problem I don't want to get a new battery just to find out something else is wrong with the phone.

Let me guess:
Two possibilities.
A) gps cable is not plugged correctly so that it might cause an electric jam with other components?
B) a heavy rom sided crash when turning on the gps?
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fosunite said:
Let me guess:
Two possibilities.
A) gps cable is not plugged correctly so that it might cause an electric jam with other components?
B) a heavy rom sided crash when turning on the gps?
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Well it is not just the GPS but I have not checked the cable. I'm not in a place that I can feel ok taking the phone apart. The phone turns off when using the camera flash sometimes so I'm 98% sure it is just the battery that has gone bad. I'm waiting for my new battery in the mail and will update. As of right now I can use the phone and GPS but I can't expect to get more then 5min out of it. I was just shocked at how it stopped working overnight.

Well you can try out with the new battery. It is at least safer than opening the phone. Let s put the openphone stuff into the worst case.
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OK so I got my new batteries in from HERE and everything is working right again. The new batteries are both 1700mah and the battery dock/usb charger is great. I still need to cycle both batteries a few times but so far under super load (gps,4g,games,wifi,flashlight, camera all at once for 30+ min) I have not put more then a 30% drain on them.
On the the next question I do feel that my stock battery should have lasted me longer (lasted less then 6 months). That and my problems started out of the blue with no real warning or loss of charge time. I was doing some reading about Lithium-Ion batteries and I'm now sure my nonstop ROM flashing and some of the "safe" overcharge tweaks caused this problem. After every ROM flash I would calibrate my battery by charging over night deleting the bin and then letting the phone die to the point I could not get it to turn on. Come to find out this is VERY BAD for Lithium-Ion batteries. The next thing i did was use the overcharge again VERY BAD because it can lead to build up inside the battery. In fact to get max life out of a Lithium-Ion it should only be charged to around 80%.
Lesson learned only flash ROM's at 100% battery so you have no need to do a battery cal, and never use a overcharge "tweak" unless you want to spend some money / time without your phone as you wait for a new battery. Missed some great pictures of my kids this weekend happy to have the extra battery now.

Take the battery out and look at it's profile. If it seems a bit swollen, replace it. I had a battery that would say like 60% and then seconds later my phone would shut down. Turns out my battery was kaput and had 'popped'. I picked up a used OEM one and a couple cheap ones off ebay. The OEM one, is where it's at. The others were crap even though they claimed 1800 mAh

Dieselboypunker said:
Take the battery out and look at it's profile. If it seems a bit swollen, replace it. I had a battery that would say like 60% and then seconds later my phone would shut down. Turns out my battery was kaput and had 'popped'. I picked up a used OEM one and a couple cheap ones off ebay. The OEM one, is where it's at. The others were crap even though they claimed 1800 mAh
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I'm very happy with my new ones working great and much longer lasting then stock. And yes my old one is a bit swollen. I had nothing to compare it to at the time so I had no clue.

yup... new battery time
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How old is your battery?!?

My battery is 18 months old. I am thinking the reboots are due to the battery. I charge it all night... 100%.. 30 minutes later it reboots at 1% battery. So I will be buying a new battery soon.

oak25 said:
My battery is 18 months old. I am thinking the reboots are due to the battery. I charge it all night... 100%.. 30 minutes later it reboots at 1% battery. So I will be buying a new battery soon.
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Yeah that is the same thing mine was doing. Good thing they are cheap.

Wireless charging issues?

I purchased a charger from a local company here in Australia. We really don't have much option over here as most companies won't ship to here. They tested them out and they worked (I trust the company as I know one of the owners).
Problem is that it mostly only charges to around 88% and peaked out here and stays attempting to charge, but not charging just getting hotter and hotter. So far max was 58deg I think. It has charged to 100% twice only, and I have had them for 2 weeks. These 2 times it perfectly charged to 100,stopped charging and cooled down.. Perfect.
A few others have had issues as well but the suppliers say it works fine for them.
Has anyone had any issues at all like this using wireless charging? We are really trying to get to the bottom of this and trying to figure out if it's a phone issue or a charger issue.
I have tried it with any and all stock and custom roms, both totally clean and with apps installed.
I have attached my battery graphs here in case that helps solve the problem.
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We noticed there was quite a few bad remarks about the lg one on Amazon so thought I would ask here.
So, anyone else have issues with inconsistent wireless charging of nexus 4?
Thanks.
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I'm having the same issues as well with this Wireless Charger I purchased off eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221166419716
For the first 2 weeks it was charging without issue. Charged the phone up to 98/99% and then switched on and off to maintain that charge, and the phone did not get very hot.
For the past few days it has only been able to charge up to 90% and will not go any higher, but the phone gets very hot and stays like that (45C). Plugging the phone into a USB charger gets it up to 100% so it can't be that the battery maximum has been reached.
Would be interested to know what type of Qi Charger you have to see if it's a problem with a certain 'type'.

Mine isn't that one. It's no brand at all. The guys who imported them tell me they tested some, including that you bought and they say that one was intermittent.
I recently purchased http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1142301 and this works perfectly so far... But then it's only been a couple days...
I am putting it down to a hardware revision 10 issue where it is not perfectly qi compliant. The newer ones are supposedly rev 12 which are qi compliant.... And hopefully they work fine with it so I can sell them to my friends who all bought an n4 today (5 at work in a smallish Xray dept)...
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Is this the hardware revision on the phone, or do you mean the rev of the charging device?
As mine evidenced, even if it works perfectly for a while, it could still not be an indication that the qi charging will keep working.
I'll probably just stick with my one until the 'official' one is released. Was a little worried that the temperature staying around 45C for extended periods of time could have a negative effect on the battery or phone components however.

Kind of a necro post but my N4 on the official charger will top out at 88% as well sometimes, then flap between charging and discharging like the phone thinks its full and is trickle charging. If I plug it in and get it to 90%, then go back to the orb, it goes to 100% just fine.
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Double necro but I have this exact same issue and can't seem to get it to work. Anyone figured it out?

Same issue with Nokia DT-900
Nexus 4 charges to 70% and then "trickle charges", turning on and off.

jholl016 said:
Nexus 4 charges to 70% and then "trickle charges", turning on and off.
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After a few months, mine would do the same thing. For some reason the "efficiency" of the N4 charging circuit (inside the phone) became somehow worse.
The DT-900 uses a TI bq500410A chip for control of the charging. If it detects too low of efficiency it will cut off. Luckily it's possible to modify this threshold. By removing the resistor connected to pin 43 of the TI chip it allows it to charge regardless of efficiency. It still has temperature protection so I don't think there is any danger.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slusb96/slusb96.pdf

presslab said:
After a few months, mine would do the same thing. For some reason the "efficiency" of the N4 charging circuit (inside the phone) became somehow worse.
The DT-900 uses a TI bq500410A chip for control of the charging. If it detects too low of efficiency it will cut off. Luckily it's possible to modify this threshold. By removing the resistor connected to pin 43 of the TI chip it allows it to charge regardless of efficiency. It still has temperature protection so I don't think there is any danger.
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Well, that type of mod is waaay over my head, but at least that answers the question. Thanks!

Just to add some information to this thread, I have the new Google Wireless Charger and it does the same thing. It charges to 80% and then just plateaus there, getting quite warm, but not hot, to the touch. Strange.

LG G2 charging times

I've been hearing here about charging times of 60 minutes (from zero to full), yet in the following professional review, that guy measured almost 3 hours...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/3
What gives ?

Noam23 said:
I've been hearing here about charging times of 60 minutes (from zero to full), yet in the following professional review, that guy measured almost 3 hours...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/3
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I didn't pay attention but the charge time is definitely not 3 hous. maybe because of the OTA?

There on crack, i have seen mine do it in less than an hour and i went from 57 to 91 in just under 20 minutes and i was using it as well

Takes my phone almost 2 hours, I guess everyone's phones different.
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Iim getting a No use charg time with stock charger is 2% a minute,

Noam23 said:
I've been hearing here about charging times of 60 minutes (from zero to full), yet in the following professional review, that guy measured almost 3 hours...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/3
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If you use any other charger that 1.8 amp plus it takes longer...I have a 2.1 amp car charger that's faster than ac. Wireless charger outta about 5 hours. It's made for night stand.
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Also depends gr8ly on what's running/sync intervals, and if using the stock wall charger or not... I normally get about 1% charge a minute ...

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What's that look like? 90 minutes to go from 25% to 98%...using factory charger, screen off but otherwise all normal. WiFi, GPS, and data/sync all on...
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Fastest charging phone i have owned to date.
My first charge of the LG G2 (Bell variant), using the stock wall charger with the phone at 0% battery life and turned off from 0% to 100% battery life was 1 Hour 8 minutes.

Put it on airplane mode and it's juiced up in 45 minutes..
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jrgilbert79 said:
If you use any other charger that 1.8 amp plus it takes longer...I have a 2.1 amp car charger that's faster than ac. Wireless charger outta about 5 hours. It's made for night stand.
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when do i remove it from the charger? when the lockscreen indicator says "charged" or when the LED charging indicator gets turned off? im confused because lockscreen indicator says "charged" but the battery icon is still doing the "filling-up" animation together w/ the LED light indicator ON. so i dont know if its already full or do i still need to wait for the LED & the battery icon animation to stop and get turned off. HELP!
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If you use any other charger that 1.8 amp plus it takes longer...I have a 2.1 amp car charger that's faster than ac. Wireless charger outta about 5 hours. It's made for night stand.
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when do i remove it from the charger? when the lockscreen indicator says "charged" or when the LED charging indicator gets turned off? im confused because lockscreen indicator says "charged" but the battery icon is still doing the "filling-up" animation together w/ the LED light indicator ON. so i dont know if its already full or do i still need to wait for the LED & the battery icon animation to stop and get turned off. HELP!
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Remove the charger when it indicates its fully charged and/or the LED is green.

It is definitely not 3 hours.
I get from zero to full in 100 minutes.Give or take a minute. Every Time. It charges 1 percent per 1 minute.

I havent used the stock charger yet (using one from a note 2 currently), but I'm getting full charge in about 1.5hours.
Definitely not 3.

After upgrade to KK, my G2 charging time take more than 3 hours from zero to 100%.
And i'm using original charger and usb cable for G2.
Any solution ??
TIA

Try a different cable.
Typos courtesy of my LG G2 (D803) running Mahdi-ROM.

the_gunners said:
After upgrade to KK, my G2 charging time take more than 3 hours from zero to 100%.
And i'm using original charger and usb cable for G2.
Any solution ??
TIA
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I have the same issue. It take almost more than 3 hours. This happen after Kitkat update.

My phone charges with the original LG Travel Adapter for bit less than 2 hours from about 10 to 100% and I'm also using Kitkat.

My g2 with original charger and last original kitkat go 0 to 100% in 2h with phone on.

Charge time comes down to 3 things.
Total battery, current if charge and efficiently if the device/cable charging it.
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Problems charging after latest t-mobile update

Has anyone had any trouble charging after the update? The one that promised optimized battery life? I always charge my phone in the morning so it's not just sitting at 100% during the night. I gave it almost 2 hours this morning and it only got to 67%. I used the Ampere app and it starts at like 100mAh and then slowly goes to about 800mAh and then fluctuates in between. I know nothing is wrong with the charger because I plugged in my note 3 with the same app and it showed 1200mAh which is what the charger is rated for. I've also had slightly worse battery life after updating. The day I updated I could only get 3:28 sot, and before updating I could easily get 4 and a half to 5+ sot. Anybody have a problem like this or maybe a fix?

Hello, yesterday was my first day after the update and my battery life went from 3.5 hrs SoT too 4.5-5.0 hrs. Yesterday was the first 5hrs of SOT I've ever had. I'm happy my device is normal. It all depends on the usage like today I'm using my phone a little more. I'm using more battery. But in not tripping if I wanted to save battery I know I could!! It's very possible.
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I had problems charging the phone using the wireless charger ,I put the phone on the charger overnight, when I wake up the phone was hot (that was the first time it happened)it was charged to 64%,plugged to the USB charger and it's been working normal since
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Try restarting your phone. Might sound dumb I know but I've had instances where fast charging didn't work until I restarted or that my battery percentage was not "correct"

I've restarted many times now and tried wiping the cache but still nothing. The battery seems to be depleting semi-normally again, still not as good as it was but the charging still takes a long time.

Have you tried it without the app?
By the way, the phone using Qhich Charge 2.0 has built in software that communicates with the charger. No need for a 3rd party app.
I haven't had any problems charging after the update.

The app doesn't help charge the phone, it just shows how many mAhs are going into the phone from the brick. Since the phone has been charging so slowly I wanted to see if power coming in was being slowed or something for some reason

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The app doesn't help charge the phone, it just shows how many mAhs are going into the phone from the brick. Since the phone has been charging so slowly I wanted to see if power coming in was being slowed or something for some reason
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Ugh I am now having this issue after the update. I plus it in and it's now telling me it will take 5 hours to charge (lock-screen). Is your phone still doing the same?

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Ugh I am now having this issue after the update. I plus it in and it's now telling me it will take 5 hours to charge (lock-screen). Is your phone still doing the same?
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Holy cow. From 90 minuites to 5 hrs? That's along time. I haven't charged yet since I don't need too till later tonigt.
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nano303 said:
Holy cow. From 90 minuites to 5 hrs? That's along time. I haven't charged yet since I don't need too till later tonigt.
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I just disabled fast charging. Restarted. Then re-enabled. Back to normal now.

Does the last update from tmobile does increase your battery life? Or at least gives you better battery.
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My battery life is about the same now, but it's still the charging part. It's shown it'll take about 3 hours to charge but when I let it charge yesterday it's still going as of now with 4+ SoT. So battery life is okay, it's the charging. I'll try disabling and restarting and see if that helps
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If all else fails, do a factory reset. I did after this last updated since it seems like it was a pretty important one. Differently get better sot, better battery drain while idle. Everything is backed up in the cloud so it wasn't that big of a deal.

I've tried the reset, knowing that a factory reset would have to be next. But charging seems to be back to normal now. I still think it's a little slower than it was, but when I plug it in, it shows anywhere from an hour to an hour 20(when my phone is under 10%). I think it's coming back slowly
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Weird battery drain

There was almost 50% battery remained before I went to sleep last night. This morning it was powered off when I get up. I wonder where the battery power has gone
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try a full cycle, from 0 to 100% with a 0.5amps charger. it will take 4 hours or so, but it will be great for your battery health

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try a full cycle, from 0 to 100% with a 0.5amps charger. it will take 4 hours or so, but it will be great for your battery health
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Is there any prove shows that the rapid charger will harm battery health and reduce the battery life? It is a vicious cycle.

China 699 said:
There was almost 50% battery remained before I went to sleep last night. This morning it was powered off when I get up. I wonder where the battery power has gone
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Look, your phone is constantly awake. The doze mode does not kick in. Make sure which app(s) is/are keeping your phone awake and do(es) not allow it to go to sleep.

Since some day's (2 or 3) I have the same problem. Maybe a bad update ?

China 699 said:
There was almost 50% battery remained before I went to sleep last night. This morning it was powered off when I get up. I wonder where the battery power has gone
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Since some day's (2 or 3) I have the same problem. Maybe a bad update ?
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Maybe a bad battery like dozens of others? Check your battery capacity (health) with Accubattery. The attachment shows a shutdown at 50%. Normal behavior is a near horizontal line when the phone is not being used.

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Maybe a bad battery like dozens of others? Check your battery capacity (health) with Accubattery. The attachment shows a shutdown at 50%. Normal behavior is a near horizontal line when the phone is not being used.
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The weird part is that 50% power is gone after automatically shutdown.

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Since some day's (2 or 3) I have the same problem. Maybe a bad update ?
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Never the less, my 6P shutdown itself several time sine last one or two updates with almost full power or with the AC charger on. It never happened before.

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Look, your phone is constantly awake. The doze mode does not kick in. Make sure which app(s) is/are keeping your phone awake and do(es) not allow it to go to sleep.
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I am in China and thanks a lot to our Great Firewall, maybe it is the reason that my phone is constantly awake. But normally, it will consume 10% of the power during the whole night. The discharge curve is almost a line with a -15 slope.

China 699 said:
I am in China and thanks a lot to our Great Firewall, maybe it is the reason that my phone is constantly awake. But normally, it will consume 10% of the power during the whole night. The discharge curve is almost a line with a -15 slope.
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Your geographic location has nothing to do with it, and when the battery is healthy a normal drain is between 0.2 and 0.4%/h. This means that overnight you should expect a drain of 3-4% after 9 hours. If your phone continues to shut down by itself I'd say your battery is the culprit... especially if upon boot it shows a different percentage than when it shut down. Check your battery health first, and if it is OK ( say >85-90%), then install a battery drain app to find any wakelock, process or app keeping your phone awake. BBS or GSam are two.

Me too
It happens to me too.
Today my phone switched off when it was near 30%.
This behavior started with the last update to Android 7.1.2 .
I'm subscribed to beta program and until final version it never happened.

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The weird part is that 50% power is gone after automatically shutdown.
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Agreed- and also why the battery is suspect. You neglected to show your Health tab which is where the estimated capacity is. No need to post another attachment, just tell us what the capacity is. If your phone keeps shutting down and dropping to zero, I would replace the battery anyway. Lucky for you the part is made in China and easy to obtain.

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Agreed- and also why the battery is suspect. You neglected to show your Health tab which is where the estimated capacity is. No need to post another attachment, just tell us what the capacity is. If your phone keeps shutting down and dropping to zero, I would replace the battery anyway. Lucky for you the part is made in China and easy to obtain.
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The capacity in Health tab is > 80%. The problem in China is we have too many batteries which claim to be original part, the price vary from several US dollars to 20 dollars. I bought a 5 dollars one and replaced the old one the week before last week, it is not easy. Now the capacity is almost 101%, the duration is longer than the old one, 10 -15% percent max.
And there was one time it shutdown itself several days after the replacement.

China 699 said:
I am in China and thanks a lot to our Great Firewall, maybe it is the reason that my phone is constantly awake. But normally, it will consume 10% of the power during the whole night. The discharge curve is almost a line with a -15 slope.
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you need a NEW battery. stop wasting your time and get a new battery and install !