I have just read a report on flipboard that the galaxy S4 is to get a firmware update to give it the Capability to Move Apps to the external SD Card. It stated this is to help resolve storage space problems heavily reported in the media.
I hope we get it for galaxy s3 too.
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Hoping same on our s3 too
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Their storage issues are much worse than ours. They're like 8GB for the 16GB version I believe. But it would be nice to get this officially on the S3 although I wouldn't be needing it myself.
I wish we get it. I have so many apps!
Samsung's usual way of circumventing problems rather than fixing them.
Good... Will have solve my biggest problem too...
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If we ge that too means i will be very happy... Low memory warning is always a bullsh******
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Samsung's usual way of circumventing problems rather than fixing them.
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As opposed to other oems that avoid the problem by removing external media
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rajeevxperia said:
If we ge that too means i will be very happy... Low memory warning is always a bullsh******
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I've yet to get low memory warning on my S3. Got about 7gb left with 100+ apps
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As opposed to other oems that avoid the problem by removing external media
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Well, it's all up to the OEM's to either include or exclude the ability to have external medias as Google doesn't deal with it anymore. ^^
I couldn't care less about it, though. I have all I need on my One and I have approx. 19 GB left to install apps.
Which leads to my question, how is samsung circumventing the problem rather than fixing it? Its a work around, sure but other than volume spanning, unless Google change the way they code android, what are the other options except getting worried and just removing it all together?
I accept that you're happy with your HTC. I accept you don't need an sd card, similarly you should accept the opposite for me and realise all samsung is doing is re introducing a solution that was previously removed. All "solutions" are a work around to or ignoring of the cause. I can hardly see why this is typical of Samsung.
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Which leads to my question, how is samsung circumventing the problem rather than fixing it? Its a work around, sure but other than volume spanning, unless Google change the way they code android, what are the other options except getting worried and just removing it all together?
I accept that you're happy with your HTC. I accept you don't need an sd card, similarly you should accept the opposite for me and realise all samsung is doing is re introducing a solution that was previously removed. All "solutions" are a work around to or ignoring of the cause. I can hardly see why this is typical of Samsung.
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Of course I accept it, and more so I respect it.
What I mean with Samsung circumventing the problem is that the stock firmware for the S4 is so incredibly bloated, and you cannot deny that. Other phones with 16 GB internal storage have around 12 GB (+- 1 GB) left for apps, which is perfectly normal and has been so for a long time, however, the S4 has 8.5 GB left.
Samsung, instead of debloating TouchWiz a little bit, circumvents the actual problem by making apps transferable to external medias. It's a great thing, though, but it's by no means a solution, it's merely a workaround,
P.S. It would of course be nice if the One had an option for a removable storage since, if anything accidentally wiped the internal storage, I'd have them untouched and safe on an external one.
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Their storage issues are much worse than ours. They're like 8GB for the 16GB version I believe. But it would be nice to get this officially on the S3 although I wouldn't be needing it myself.
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9.3
Theshawty said:
Of course I accept it, and more so I respect it.
What I mean with Samsung circumventing the problem is that the stock firmware for the S4 is so incredibly bloated, and you cannot deny that. Other phones with 16 GB internal storage have around 12 GB (+- 1 GB) left for apps, which is perfectly normal and has been so for a long time, however, the S4 has 8.5 GB left.
Samsung, instead of debloating TouchWiz a little bit, circumvents the actual problem by making apps transferable to external medias. It's a great thing, though, but it's by no means a solution, it's merely a workaround,
P.S. It would of course be nice if the One had an option for a removable storage since, if anything accidentally wiped the internal storage, I'd have them untouched and safe on an external one.
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Oh sorry. I thought you meant the problem of disjointed storage locations (which is also a problem). No you're right, its bloated. I think the S3 is too. My ROM is massive at 400MB fitting into 1.5GB partition. Not sure why touchwiz needs to be so big.
It doesn't help peoples' space expectations when a 16 GiB phone is actually 14.9 GB and this then has numerous partitions you're not "allowed" to use before you even get to "user storage". Personally I think GiB should be rendered a thing of the past
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Oh sorry. I thought you meant the problem of disjointed storage locations (which is also a problem). No you're right, its bloated. I think the S3 is too. My ROM is massive at 400MB fitting into 1.5GB partition. Not sure why touchwiz needs to be so big.
It doesn't help peoples' space expectations when a 16 GiB phone is actually 14.9 GB and this then has numerous partitions you're not "allowed" to use before you even get to "user storage". Personally I think GiB should be rendered a thing of the past
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As do I. If they say it has 16 GB storage, it should have exactly that and not 14 something GB because it really is 16GiB.
And @Glebun, it varies. The S4's that I've seen have all had around 8.5 GB and not 9.3.
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As do I. If they say it has 16 GB storage, it should have exactly that and not 14 something GB because it really is 16GiB.
And @Glebun, it varies. The S4's that I've seen have all had around 8.5 GB and not 9.3.
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The S3 varies too. Some have 11.25, others 11.35 and others even a little more. Depends on the variant
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The S3 varies too. Some have 11.25, others 11.35 and others even a little more. Depends on the variant
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Mine is 11.5gb
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I do think storage size quoted should be of user available storage on first use, not the physical size of the chip which is then half taken up by non removable stuff.
it's like saying a car has 4 seats and then putting the fuel tank on the rear seats
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As do I. If they say it has 16 GB storage, it should have exactly that and not 14 something GB because it really is 16GiB.
And @Glebun, it varies. The S4's that I've seen have all had around 8.5 GB and not 9.3.
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9.3 is just what I've read. Like, they reduced some stuff and it got 80MB more (lol) to 9.32 or something like that. Why does it vary though? Doesn't make much sense. Preloaded carrier crap?
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9.3 is just what I've read. Like, they reduced some stuff and it got 80MB more (lol) to 9.32 or something like that. Why does it vary though? Doesn't make much sense. Preloaded carrier crap?
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Probably. It seems thw partition layouts are altered per carrier or variant.
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It has come to that time... I have sold my beloved Nexus One patiently waiting for the new Nexus S to be released... I had the original t-mobile version ordered it the day it went on sale and loved but it was getting tired of it and needed a new gadget. Using a blackberry in the interim until the new S is released, this way it will make me want a Nexus S even more when they are released.. Thanks for all the tips and help!
how much did you sell it for and where if you don't mine me asking.
guess some people need the newest of things...the phone is less than a year old.
But it would make sense to sell now rather wait till the 2nd one comes out for less $$$$
I'm not sold on the Nexus S. My buddy has a Galaxy S and I don't like it. It has a weird blue tint to the screen and feels like crap.
If they make it look sexy I might jump. I don't think the Samsungs even include a trackball/optical sensor which would suck. Having a HTC Diamond 2 without such sucked. Trying to correct a word and tapping and tapping and tapping just to get the cursor in the right spot... eg
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I'm not sold on the Nexus S. My buddy has a Galaxy S and I don't like it. It has a weird blue tint to the screen and feels like crap.
If they make it look sexy I might jump. I don't think the Samsungs even include a trackball/optical sensor which would suck. Having a HTC Diamond 2 without such sucked. Trying to correct a word and tapping and tapping and tapping just to get the cursor in the right spot... eg
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That's exactly why I don't like the Galaxy S. If the N2 does not have a trackball, Gingerbread should integrate something like the iOS has. That zoom type thing that it is really helpful.
gah, i switched from the Captivate to the N1, and not looking back. Samsung sh*t is worthless when they fail to do testing on the products prior to release. (non-working GPS, SLOW-ass filesystem, etc)
If only I could boost my internal memory
I too have started thinking about selling my phone. With all the apps taking up more and more space and Froyo's lame app2sd feature. Unless someone's mod really can make a good app2sd use of my sd card then I too would need a new phone sooner. Thought about the Galaxy S phone but without a flash how can I find my keys in the dark. If only there was a way to add the 16 gig the Galaxy S has for internal memory to my Nexus one and I'd love it for years to come.
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I too have started thinking about selling my phone. With all the apps taking up more and more space and Froyo's lame app2sd feature. Unless someone's mod really can make a good app2sd use of my sd card then I too would need a new phone sooner. Thought about the Galaxy S phone but without a flash how can I find my keys in the dark. If only there was a way to add the 16 gig the Galaxy S has for internal memory to my Nexus one and I'd love it for years to come.
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Root it and apply app2ext. It will give you plenty room.
I don't think trackball will ever come back. Even HTC has gone away from it. Yes Samsung S line is crap. But nexus S at least will have Google support. That's the only reason I might consider upgrading from my n1. But its not enough for me to ditch my n1.
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I too have started thinking about selling my phone. With all the apps taking up more and more space and Froyo's lame app2sd feature. Unless someone's mod really can make a good app2sd use of my sd card then I too would need a new phone sooner. Thought about the Galaxy S phone but without a flash how can I find my keys in the dark. If only there was a way to add the 16 gig the Galaxy S has for internal memory to my Nexus one and I'd love it for years to come.
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root, cyanogen, dartremor apps2sd:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
I have over 150 apps, over 60mb left of internal phone storage. Max partitioned SD card is 1gb. FYI, the SGS only has about 1.7gb of app storage, which is nice, but not worth it over a nexus one
I would keep my Nexus if not for ****ty touch screen
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I would keep my Nexus if not for ****ty touch screen
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Do you experience problems with yours?
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ChongoDroid said:
Do you experience problems with yours?
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I do with mine, all my friends do with theirs. It's something you learn to live with, but it's the only thing that prevents me from recommending the Nexus and Desire, for example, over any other Android phone for most people. I always have to explain that there will be weird screen behavior from time to time.
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Do you experience problems with yours?
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I do, occasionally. Someones presses on the screen either don't respond or register as a press elsewhere on the screen.
Its very rare for me though and it's certainly not an issue I think about.
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That's happened to me once but I haven't experienced it since. The haptic buttons took about a week to get used to, but my screen is gravy.
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I've experienced it with the lock slider. It didn't respond. Only happened once, though.
i would keep mine if it wasn't for the unfixable keyboard issue
i would keep mine, but i'm just tired of it. listed on craigslist for $400
radzuky said:
That's exactly why I don't like the Galaxy S. If the N2 does not have a trackball, Gingerbread should integrate something like the iOS has. That zoom type thing that it is really helpful.
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I'd be very surprised if it doesn't; I know Froyo on the SGS already has a similar such thing when I tried it. I very much doubt google would do away with such a thing and then not give you any alternative.
the horrible touchscreen on my nexus is just as bad as the other issues that the samsung phones have. no such thing as a perfect phone
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Do you experience problems with yours?
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Not as much now. But thats just part of the problem. Its A LOT easier to type on 4 inch screen then on 3.7, u would think that 0.3 is not much, but it is. Also I like that even on lowest brightness and direct sunlight I can still see on my Vibrant.....cant see **** on Nexus without using auto brightness.
so i got my hands on an HTC ONE and im very impressed.
design wise, its feels like a mac book pro, its almost as thick as GS3.
Sense 5.0 just might win me back from my Note 2.
camera was great, and picture and video quality was awesome.
one thing that really took me by surprise was the speakers.
sound quality was awesome and i could hear some bass in phone speakers.
i would love to have this phone out, but i wont buy it because no removeable battery & no expandable memory.
Could you make some sample photos and post them in this thread? Love to see some photos in low and normal light conditions.
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Could you make some sample photos and post them in this thread? Love to see some photos in low and normal light conditions.
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sorry i had to give it up to somenoe else for now
but once i get it back i will
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design wise, its feels like a mac book pro, its almost as thick as GS3.
Sense 5.0 just might win me back from my Note 2.
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Mac book pro feel. Nice way to describe it :laugh:
Definitely want to get my hands on it now.
I used to be all about I won't get a phone without removable battery and or no SD slot.
However, the more I think about how I use a phone and hoping if something did happen to the battery, your carrier would help you out, then I see no issue in getting this phone. 64G is plenty of space for me, so I am good there.
So getting this phone, but going to test the heck out of it at the store before hand.
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I used to be all about I won't get a phone without removable battery and or no SD slot.
However, the more I think about how I use a phone and hoping if something did happen to the battery, your carrier would help you out, then I see no issue in getting this phone. 64G is plenty of space for me, so I am good there.
So getting this phone, but going to test the heck out of it at the store before hand.
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i had the evo lte for a bit and i absolutely hated that fact that i could not remove my battery, and thats one of the reasons i dont have a galaxy nexus on my line, i need all of my 64gb of storage, i have about 30 gb of movies and 20 gb of music. im not giving up my note 2 right now for anything.
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Mac book pro feel. Nice way to describe it :laugh:
Definitely want to get my hands on it now.
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True lol! MacBook pro feel sound great. So happy that the speakers sound great too!
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As for the non removeable battery, I really don't care as long as it isn't malfunctioning. I don't plan on keeping the phone for more than 2-3 years. I don't fast charge my phone either with higher amperage that would kill the batteries capacity and discharge rate.
As for the 64gb internal issue, I assume everyone that is complaining HAS a 64gb microsd that is full? Is 64gb really not enough for you people? I also realise you don't actually get 64 after android is installed, but still... With usb OTG just buy yourself a cable and microsd reader.
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As for the non removeable battery, I really don't care as long as it isn't malfunctioning. I don't plan on keeping the phone for more than 2-3 years. I don't fast charge my phone either with higher amperage that would kill the batteries capacity and discharge rate.
As for the 64gb internal issue, I assume everyone that is complaining HAS a 64gb microsd that is full? Is 64gb really not enough for you people? I also realise you don't actually get 64 after android is installed, but still... With usb OTG just buy yourself a cable and microsd reader.
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With both of my previous phones, after less than a year the battery was substantially less efficient than it was when it was new - held less charge. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same one for 3 years. It's also nice to have the option to replace it with a higher-capacity one.
As for storage, 64GB would be fine, but you can't get the 64GB version in the UK. I regularly fill up my 32GB memory card with downloaded video, and that's standard-definition stuff; on the the One it'll be HD.
I've ordered a One anyway. I'm an addict.
You know, for those still iffy about to expandable storage, remember this. The one has a 64gig variant. Most of the devices out right now with expandable storage can only take a 64gig card maximum anyways. And that's only on a few devices.
I would understand if the one only had a 16gig variant. Even I wouldn't buy it with a 16gig internal storage either. But has a 32 and 64gig variants. So what's the deal?
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I have no problem not having a piece of crappy plastic on the back of the phone. This is the direction htc is going in.
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With both of my previous phones, after less than a year the battery was substantially less efficient than it was when it was new - held less charge. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same one for 3 years. It's also nice to have the option to replace it with a higher-capacity one.
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I have a Desire Z, which came out, I believe, November 2010. I got a larger Mugen battery for it as soon as it was released, maybe two or three months afterwards. I've been using that battery ever since. So that's over two years. It still holds its charge really well, I don't have any complaints.
I hear what you're saying though, it is a concern. The question is, how easy would it be to open up the One and replace the battery? Probably really difficult, which means that, effectively, these devices have a short lifespan.
It is a shame, really.
I don't think it's always either/or when it comes to unibody designs and an easily servicable battery - imagine if you could slide out a "cartridge" from the bottom of the phone, which would contain the battery, SIM card, SD card. The best of all worlds. The only compromise would be the latch to keep it locked.
I open phones to replace parts and etc. evo and evo 3d were easy to open and fix, evo lte was a bit complicated, but this guy is up there with Iphone, when it comes to opening and replacing part, I did not see any openings or areas where screws would be hidden, so replacing the battery is out of the question.
I keep three charged batteries with me all times (I saw Miami heat players leaving their hotel in Boston when they were here for a playoff a couple of years ago, and got to talk and shake hands w lebron and wade but couldn't take pictures because my battery had died) since than I dont buy any phone that does not have a removable battery. Right now I have a 16 gb note 2 with a 64 gb sd card and both are almsot full, I just like having an option to do what I want when I want to. If I didnt want those options I would've went with the iphone!
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One thing I forgot to mention that really caught my eye was blink feed.
Its pretty much windows 8 but very sexy.
And best feature for me so far and the most fun has been the IR capability, I been using the phone to control tv and cable box and its a great otions to have.
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One thing I forgot to mention that really caught my eye was blink feed.
Its pretty much windows 8 but very sexy.
And best feature for me so far and the most fun has been the IR capability, I been using the phone to control tv and cable box and its a great otions to have.
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Do you have the phone? Could you give us the list of countries the channel guide of the SenseTV supports?
this is a good phone !
this phone is truly awsome !
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truly this phone met up to expectation
camera build very good as well !:good:
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I open phones to replace parts and etc. evo and evo 3d were easy to open and fix, evo lte was a bit complicated, but this guy is up there with Iphone, when it comes to opening and replacing part, I did not see any openings or areas where screws would be hidden, so replacing the battery is out of the question.
I keep three charged batteries with me all times (I saw Miami heat players leaving their hotel in Boston when they were here for a playoff a couple of years ago, and got to talk and shake hands w lebron and wade but couldn't take pictures because my battery had died) since than I dont buy any phone that does not have a removable battery. Right now I have a 16 gb note 2 with a 64 gb sd card and both are almsot full, I just like having an option to do what I want when I want to. If I didnt want those options I would've went with the iphone!
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It'll come apart. The HOX had no obvious openings either but you just need to pry the screen out and you've got access to everything. Being an aluminium body rather than polycarbonate (which could flex to allow you to get the screen out) there will have to be a proper way to pull it apart.
M.
I did not see see any openings for screws or an area where I can pry it apart..... will update once i get the phone
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coupetastic-droid said:
You know, for those still iffy about to expandable storage, remember this. The one has a 64gig variant. Most of the devices out right now with expandable storage can only take a 64gig card maximum anyways. And that's only on a few devices.
I would understand if the one only had a 16gig variant. Even I wouldn't buy it with a 16gig internal storage either. But has a 32 and 64gig variants. So what's the deal?
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This. I'm getting real tired of the argument about not enough storage. I feel at this point with a 64gb internal storage the point is invalid. Why would anyone have that many movies on a phone. Or music? I enjoy watching clips but a whole 2 hour video on my phone? No thanks. I loaded up all my music onto Google music a long time ago and have never has problems since trying to listen to it. Idk, I have never really had a problem with storage and I use my phones a lot!
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I did not see see any openings for screws or an area where I can pry it apart..... will update once i get the phone
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Well of course they aren't going to be obvious
http://www.droidsage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/HTC-One-Unibody-Design.jpg
Look at the inside of the body along the side - a whole bunch of tiny tabs. My guess is these hold the screen in, pry the plastic side of the phone away from the screen (may need special tool) and the tabs will release the screen. Once screen is out you have access to everything.
M.
We live in a world where looks apparently matters more than anything. I get it, a hot girl and dumb blonde model is more desirable than a average looking PhD.
But for a phone? You dropped removable battery and SD card slot for metal and glass? Are you [email protected]#$ kidding me? Goodbye Samsuck.
I think you are looking for the iPhone forum. Just an FYI - this is the wrong forum.
Join the HTC boat
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I think you are looking for the iPhone forum. Just an FYI - this is the wrong forum.
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Please, explain to me the difference between S6 and an iPhone other than the OS.
Simple really..the S6 has a better:
Design
Camera
Screen
**and that's just for starters
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Please, explain to me the difference between S6 and an iPhone other than the OS.
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You are right. The S6 is practically an iPhone. Its a shame. But I am sure you know that Samsung had a terrible year last year while Apple had one of the best quarters they ever had. Samsung had to change something, and I guess that change was copying the iPhone again. I guess they're hoping to draw back a lot of iPhone users now that their design can compete. But that's about it. I do not understand why HTC can manage to fit a micro sd slot in their phone. Why couldn't Samsung?
So at the moment, are there any new flagship phones with both removable battery and SD card?
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We live in a world where looks apparently matters more than anything. I get it, a hot girl and dumb blonde model is more desirable than a average looking PhD.
But for a phone? You dropped removable battery and SD card slot for metal and glass? Are you [email protected]#$ kidding me? Goodbye Samsuck.
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We live in a world where people use pictures of women getting f***ed as their member logo. Yet you talk about how others. You can get a good looking women who is intelligent too fyi
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@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.
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@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.
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You are right. Of course, can we really expect all 4 major U.S. carriers offering 32/64/128gB configurations of the phone? I don't think so. If history repeats itself (which with Sammy you know it will) the carriers will only get 32GB variants, and then MAYBE 64GB variants sometime this summer with 128GB be left out over seas. This is WHY expandable storage is a MUST with Samsung phones. I'll gladly take a performance hit instead of have no option at all.
Besides... people complained about TW lagging and simple things taking a few extra seconds. I never read from anyone on here that their SD card was so slow that the phone's performance was taking a huge hit.
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Join the HTC boat
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Except HTC do not have AMOLED or the capacitive/home buttons...
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@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.
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The argument about faster memory is stupid. Nobody is stopping Samsung from putting faster memory onboard. However, do you really need lightning fast memory for storing your music, or photos, maps, or videos? No. That's bollocks. SD card is plenty fast for those.
I can live without hw buttons and oled screen doesn't bother me either. there's nothing wrong with either imo they are both good screens oled, and slcd.
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If you want more function.. Carry a f…g computer with you, it can do a lot more than a phone
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You are right. Of course, can we really expect all 4 major U.S. carriers offering 32/64/128gB configurations of the phone? I don't think so. If history repeats itself (which with Sammy you know it will) the carriers will only get 32GB variants, and then MAYBE 64GB variants sometime this summer with 128GB be left out over seas. This is WHY expandable storage is a MUST with Samsung phones. I'll gladly take a performance hit instead of have no option at all.
Besides... people complained about TW lagging and simple things taking a few extra seconds. I never read from anyone on here that their SD card was so slow that the phone's performance was taking a huge hit.
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The fact that most carriers (not only US ones) are not offering the 128GB model, or even the 64GB is true, and it sucks. I, too am very sad about removing the SD card slot. The SD card saved my a** a couple of times with my previous phones, so it is a must have for sure.
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Except HTC do not have AMOLED or the capacitive/home buttons...
The argument about faster memory is stupid. Nobody is stopping Samsung from putting faster memory onboard. However, do you really need lightning fast memory for storing your music, or photos, maps, or videos? No. That's bollocks. SD card is plenty fast for those.
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To you it might be stupid. To Samsung it isn't, cuz now they can brag about them having the fastest performing handset with the fastest flash memory. Does this help me, you and the average user in ANY way? No. Does Samsung care about that? Absolutely not.
On the other hand ppl with S6 will be able to show good results on the different benchmarks, which is.... nice..... I guess.
No reason why they can't have both super fast imbedded storage and an SD card. Of course SD cards are slower than internal, that's always been the case. I'd load the SD card with FLAC music favorites and enjoy the speedy internal storage for more frequent transfers. I understand Samsung's reasoning behind it, but I still don't like it, and it's quite likely this will prevent me from dropping money on Samsung again, at least for my next upgrade. For everyone like me who opts out, they'll probably gain 2 or 3 new buyers, so I doubt they'll miss us much. I was hoping Samsung would find a way to pursue their new industrial design objectives, while retaining the features that have kept me buying and recommending Galaxy phones, but no dice. Of course, if the phone is otherwise so good that the loss of SD, battery, and waterproofing still make it a better device than the M9, G4, Z4....
If I thought there was any reason to believe that the Saygus V2 will: 1. be a real product, 2. work on T-Mobile, 3. get WiFi calling, I'd jump on that.
How one can improve almost everything and then decide to get rid of a removable battery and sd card is beyond imaginable.
So glad I've bought the Note great design, functionality and it has all the features I'm expecting from a premium device.
Hopefully, Samsung doesn't screw up the Note series too.
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So at the moment, are there any new flagship phones with both removable battery and SD card?
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Probably the G4
I don't think it was just one reason they decided to remove the SD-card and use a non-removable battery
I think they removed the SD card to ensure the user experience was always fast. How many threads have you guys read where crummy SD cards caused slowness, or corruption or some other problem. I know I've read a few. Apple has never liked SD cards, neither has Google themselves. With UFS being introduced, a very fast, serial, full duplex storage connection, that starts at 32GB, it was time to remove the SD slot.
I think they decided to go with a non-removable battery because of all the wireless technology they had to cram into this thing. On top of all the normal wireless technology crammed into phones these days (GSM/CDMA, LTE, 802.11 AC 2x2 MIMO and N, NFC, Bluetooth 4.1), they also had to add Qi, PowerMat wireless charging and MST. I don't think they could get away with a removable cover.
Just guessing, so I could be wrong.
The Galaxy S6 Edge rocks. That's the one. It will fly.
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Well from start Samsung has always portrayed that we will give you a better ""iphone". They did it in S1 to s3 by copying iphone. They changed a bit but that didn't work out well and now they are back to copy business. Seriously this is sad for loyal buyers. Still i am glad they didn't ruin Note series like S series.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/07/expecting-the-galaxy-note-5-to-have-a-microsd-slot-dont/
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/01/galaxy-note-5-sm-n920-tech-specs-and-s6-edge-leaked/
This sux. I wont be buying Note 5 now
Ps: updated info on Note 5 confirms the rumours.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/14/new-galaxy-note-5-and-s6-edge-renders-surface/
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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/07/expecting-the-galaxy-note-5-to-have-a-microsd-slot-dont/
This sux. I wont be buying Note 5 now
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you should have understood that when sammobile have started bashing microsd cards.
I think it's a good decision from Samsung. MicroSD just slows the device down. It already does, for example resuming of the Note 4 will be 300 ms faster if you have the microSD card removed. And I'm not even talking about file access itself. And the difference is now even going to get bigger. Just buy a phone with a decent amount of internal memory if you need it.
Meh, this is my last samsung device.
snap, no sd card no sale from me, likewise removable battery....
my wife was due a upgrade and wanted the s6 but because of this she is staying with the note 2.
People always compare the speed but in actual use, do you really need it to be THAT fast? SD card is really important if you have a lot of offline media. It doesn't make my device less useful or enjoyable if there's that microsecond lag or whatnot. Note 4 will be my last from Samsung then.
Sucks if true...
I like SD and removable battery! Hope that they dont copy the S6!!!
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People always compare the speed but in actual use, do you really need it to be THAT fast?
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Yes, that's the whole idea of upgrading to a newer phone, right ?
But with no noticeable difference in real world usage or unnecessary need/want, a normal user won't upgrade immediately anyway.
I would never need another battery for my phone. As long as its 64gig or higher im fine with no micro sd.
The article sounds more like speculation rather than any reveal from a source.
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I don't mind if they up the internal size to 64/128 standard considering the type of phone that it is, but I also don't believe I'm the typical user either. I go on trips and will take thousands of photo and video combinations. Transferring them via usb on my Mac Pro(same problem on my other PCs) would take a life-time because of how slow the Samsung program takes, so I just pop the microsd on an adapter and stick it into my computer and let everything transfer in a few minutes.
by Samsux hello LG
that's not a bad thing,only if no removeable battery.
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I think it's a good decision from Samsung. MicroSD just slows the device down. It already does, for example resuming of the Note 4 will be 300 ms faster if you have the microSD card removed. And I'm not even talking about file access itself. And the difference is now even going to get bigger. Just buy a phone with a decent amount of internal memory if you need it.
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Absolutely disagree with your opinion about this, even though you are kinda right.
The whole concept of the microsd slowing the phone down is wrong already. SDcards are there for external storage, not in any kind of use in combination of apps.
Also when you choose between 64 GB and 128 GB internal storage, you might drop an extra 200 bucks just for extra storage. Where a sd card is WAY cheaper.
They probably also remove the SD so the phone gets thinner; What is it with people and extreme thin phones?
Don't we all agree we would rather have an extra bit of juice instead of an 7mm thick phone? its just ridiculous.
Looks like I made the right choice in getting my Galaxy Note 4 N910C rather than waiting for the Note 5. Not having a user removable and microSDCard expansion is a deal killer for me.
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Absolutely disagree with your opinion about this, even though you are kinda right.
The whole concept of the microsd slowing the phone down is wrong already. SDcards are there for external storage, not in any kind of use in combination of apps.
Also when you choose between 64 GB and 128 GB internal storage, you might drop an extra 200 bucks just for extra storage. Where a sd card is WAY cheaper.
They probably also remove the SD so the phone gets thinner; What is it with people and extreme thin phones?
Don't we all agree we would rather have an extra bit of juice instead of an 7mm thick phone? its just ridiculous.
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Good post, I'm in complete agreement. I don't understand Samsung. One of the major benefits of buying the Note 4 or S5 was the removeable battery and MicroSD. Those features are also why people stick with Android instead of moving over to the dark side.
It must be a cost issue, there's no other rationale. If they are saving £5 per device by fixing the battery in place and removing the MicroSD slot, then that very quickly becomes a significant revenue boost when you're selling 1 million devices.
I'm not due an upgrade until September 2016, which will be Note 6 territory. If the Note 6 has a fixed battery and no MicroSD slot, then I won't be buying it.
The nexus 6 is looking like a more compelling upgrade now
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the every time i want to have clean flash on note 5 , i should backup my data !!! aaaAAAAAAA disaster ...
Just don't buy the note 5 and be sure to let Samsung know why. No removable battery and no microSD is pretty crappy if you want to use your phone with the Gear VR or as a work phone without having to be glued to an outlet. I'm also expecting it to ship with android 5.1.1 as well, so it's an immediate no-buy for me as it will hardly be any better than the current Note 4. The note 6 on the other hand is going to be a significant improvement and will hopefully come with all the bells and whistles (samsung's custom core SoC).
I am considering moving from Note 4 to one of these. I think one of my bites into performance (particulary multitasking performance) is the 3GB of RAM.
Of course, this won't have all the bloatware as the Note, but then I have a lot of it 'disabled' anyway.
I'm assuming a lot here are Moto experienced, so thought I'd ask. Do you think 3GB would be enough? I have ~ 150 apps on my phone. Don't use for gaming. But on the road, I might have a car mode app running, GPS Navigation; Music streaming all simultaneously.
It'll be more than enough.
The Note 4 also has 3GB of Ram, so as far as memory goes, the Moto X should be "faster" since it also has less bloatware and a newer/better processor. Whether or not this will be true in reality is unknown, but all the evidence is pointing toward the Moto X Style thus far.
Wish it had 24 gigs @3600 Hz. With 1,000,000 mah ion battery. And 4k 3840 x 2160p full-array LED backlight. 24x camera zoom. Also SSD of 1 TB. Night vision aperture. And face and hand reader. Only be the size of 4.2" and weigh lighter than a piece of paper. So no 3 gigs is not enough.
It's all depends on how much the startup steals, i just read that the Note 5 is using over 2 GB just to get TW up and running.
So, in Motorolas case, its all good but not in Sammys
I think 3G should enough if you don't run any Samsung apps on it.
Yeah Samsung and their touchwiz is crap. One of the main reasons I am leaving Samsung and buying a Moto X.
3GB of RAM is plenty if you ask me. Its all about how well Motorola optimise it and I'm sure they will manage nicely.
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I'm sure 3gb will be enough for the moto x, it shouldn't have any bloat on it. My verizon S5 has a bunch of carrier bloat on it and only 2gb of ram and I can make it stall pretty hard just using the browser and streaming pandora.
5.1.1 fixes several of memory leaks that have been plaguing the android phones since kitkat (or even before) and early 5.0. So, Note4 is suffering from those bugs as well.
So, with 3GB of memory on X you should get an experience which is similar to 6GB on Note4 (if it had 6GB) which I presume does not run 5.1 yet. Accounting for the bloat that Samsung apps introduce.
I am running CM12.1 with 5.1.1 on Moto G (2014) and its much better than kitkat or 5.0 lollipop experience I had. It feels a whole different phone altogether.
Why wouldn't it be enough?
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Why wouldn't it be enough?
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Can't believe I'm agreein with an iPhone user [emoji6] ... Just kidding lol.
As an example you've only got 1GB on your iPhone 6 ... it goes to show its all about the software and not always about hardware.
RAM is over rated if you ask me. Crap software will be crap regardless of how much RAM a phone has or hasnt got. And hopefully Moto X doesnt dissapoint us like Samdung ... who have loads of RAM but their phones still lag like crazy.
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Why wouldn't it be enough?
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For the reason I stated in the quesiton...running lots of apps.
Geordie Affy said:
Can't believe I'm agreein with an iPhone user [emoji6] ... Just kidding lol.
As an example you've only got 1GB on your iPhone 6 ... it goes to show its all about the software and not always about hardware.
RAM is over rated if you ask me. Crap software will be crap regardless of how much RAM a phone has or hasnt got. And hopefully Moto X doesnt dissapoint us like Samdung ... who have loads of RAM but their phones still lag like crazy.
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Actually, if I were able to root (I'm on AT&T, and unfortunately cannot), I could run an app that determines what loads when. But without that, it loads all kinds of apps even though I'm not using them. (Maybe I'm the only one, but I consider that a poor design/implementation of software management by Android). Add all those to the bloat, it does get laggy...especially if multitasking.
Generally using, it performs great. But just as one example of multitasking where I notice it very laggy: Going for a walk, tracking with MyTracks; playing music via BT headset; receive message...opening message very slow.
Having been a Samsung addict for a long time, I haven't experienced non-Samsung. So, wasn't sure about others. I always read users disparage of Samsung and it's software, but as noted I've always been able to get past that due to rooting, etc. But not any more.
So, I"m ready to move away from Samsung...but then feel I should get the most I can get. Don't want to move away to then be disappointed.
I"m pretty much convinced that 3GB will be fine...for now. But as time goes on, more and more useful apps will be coming out. I feel that 4GB will give me a certain amount of longer time to be able to stick with the phone, whichever one I get.
iPhones only need 1GB of ram to run smoothly without any lag
Android users complain 3GB is not enough............*sigh* -_-
@ewingr that doesn't make sense though. Until the Zenfone 2 all we knew was 3GB of ram and it has always been plenty especially for phone s that were running stock android, only phones that were "struggling" we're Samsung phone with the heavy touch wiz. The M8 with 2GB of ram had plenty of ram to spare. Now that 4GB is available all of a sudden 3GB becomes a concern.... I don't get it but ok.
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@ewingr that doesn't make sense though. Until the Zenfone 2 all we knew was 3GB of ram and it has always been plenty especially for phone s that were running stock android, only phones that were "struggling" we're Samsung phone with the heavy touch wiz. The M8 with 2GB of ram had plenty of ram to spare. Now that 4GB is available all of a sudden 3GB becomes a concern.... I don't get it but ok.
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All I can tell you is that is what I"m experiencing. Again...it may in fact be the TouchWiz as people complain about. (I use a different launcher...I really don't know how that plays into it).
But, ... The fact is in the end, I get short on RAM. When I flush it all, it operates faster. Given that, I don';t see how it can't make sense that 4GB over 3 GB would be better, and possibly necessary if running a lot of apps.
berezker said:
iPhones only need 1GB of ram to run smoothly without any lag
Android users complain 3GB is not enough............*sigh* -_-
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Ram is about multitasking. Not sbout smoothness.
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All I can tell you is that is what I"m experiencing. Again...it may in fact be the TouchWiz as people complain about. (I use a different launcher...I really don't know how that plays into it).
But, ... The fact is in the end, I get short on RAM. When I flush it all, it operates faster. Given that, I don';t see how it can't make sense that 4GB over 3 GB would be better, and possibly necessary if running a lot of apps.
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Don't be afraid, man. When my nexus 4 was still alive I could throw anything at it, and it would never lag or eat up more than 1.3 GBs of RAM. And that was a 2012 phone.
Samsung just can't keep up with its own software, so they sell you their top of the line hardware, at high prices, to compensate for their inability to optimise. Moto and nexus are just a completely different world
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Ram is about multitasking. Not sbout smoothness.
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to a degree. it is about running multi applications at once but that also has an effect on smoothness. if the phone struggles to run multiple things it will not be smooth, that is simple. and the iphone has much much better code/software then android. 3 gb should be enough. my note 4 does not have any smoothness issues still running kitkat too i might add!
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to a degree. it is about running multi applications at once but that also has an effect on smoothness. if the phone struggles to run multiple things it will not be smooth, that is simple. and the iphone has much much better code/software then android. 3 gb should be enough. my note 4 does not have any smoothness issues still running kitkat too i might add!
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Don't really agree that iOS has better code than android. A lot of apps now have moved over to using something like apache cordova / nativescript and write one app (in JavaScriptl) which is then able to run on each platform. However, Apple has a better vetting process so in general, I've seen apps that have memory leak issues or are just plain bad when it comes to memory be not allowed to the store. Google's vetting process isn't as strict AFAIK - could be wrong - so there's that element to it.
So my status now is that I ordered T-Mobile Note 4 that I can root and rom. I'll try a less bloated ROM and see how it goes. That'll give time to get the new Moto Pure in, and Nexus phones in , and see how the reviews go. Maybe I'll be happy with the rooted Note 4.