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Got my Hands on HTC One

so i got my hands on an HTC ONE and im very impressed.
design wise, its feels like a mac book pro, its almost as thick as GS3.
Sense 5.0 just might win me back from my Note 2.
camera was great, and picture and video quality was awesome.
one thing that really took me by surprise was the speakers.
sound quality was awesome and i could hear some bass in phone speakers.
i would love to have this phone out, but i wont buy it because no removeable battery & no expandable memory.

Could you make some sample photos and post them in this thread? Love to see some photos in low and normal light conditions.

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Could you make some sample photos and post them in this thread? Love to see some photos in low and normal light conditions.
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sorry i had to give it up to somenoe else for now
but once i get it back i will

nas02302 said:
design wise, its feels like a mac book pro, its almost as thick as GS3.
Sense 5.0 just might win me back from my Note 2.
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Mac book pro feel. Nice way to describe it :laugh:
Definitely want to get my hands on it now.

I used to be all about I won't get a phone without removable battery and or no SD slot.
However, the more I think about how I use a phone and hoping if something did happen to the battery, your carrier would help you out, then I see no issue in getting this phone. 64G is plenty of space for me, so I am good there.
So getting this phone, but going to test the heck out of it at the store before hand.

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I used to be all about I won't get a phone without removable battery and or no SD slot.
However, the more I think about how I use a phone and hoping if something did happen to the battery, your carrier would help you out, then I see no issue in getting this phone. 64G is plenty of space for me, so I am good there.
So getting this phone, but going to test the heck out of it at the store before hand.
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i had the evo lte for a bit and i absolutely hated that fact that i could not remove my battery, and thats one of the reasons i dont have a galaxy nexus on my line, i need all of my 64gb of storage, i have about 30 gb of movies and 20 gb of music. im not giving up my note 2 right now for anything.

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Mac book pro feel. Nice way to describe it :laugh:
Definitely want to get my hands on it now.
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True lol! MacBook pro feel sound great. So happy that the speakers sound great too!
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As for the non removeable battery, I really don't care as long as it isn't malfunctioning. I don't plan on keeping the phone for more than 2-3 years. I don't fast charge my phone either with higher amperage that would kill the batteries capacity and discharge rate.
As for the 64gb internal issue, I assume everyone that is complaining HAS a 64gb microsd that is full? Is 64gb really not enough for you people? I also realise you don't actually get 64 after android is installed, but still... With usb OTG just buy yourself a cable and microsd reader.
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As for the non removeable battery, I really don't care as long as it isn't malfunctioning. I don't plan on keeping the phone for more than 2-3 years. I don't fast charge my phone either with higher amperage that would kill the batteries capacity and discharge rate.
As for the 64gb internal issue, I assume everyone that is complaining HAS a 64gb microsd that is full? Is 64gb really not enough for you people? I also realise you don't actually get 64 after android is installed, but still... With usb OTG just buy yourself a cable and microsd reader.
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With both of my previous phones, after less than a year the battery was substantially less efficient than it was when it was new - held less charge. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same one for 3 years. It's also nice to have the option to replace it with a higher-capacity one.
As for storage, 64GB would be fine, but you can't get the 64GB version in the UK. I regularly fill up my 32GB memory card with downloaded video, and that's standard-definition stuff; on the the One it'll be HD.
I've ordered a One anyway. I'm an addict.

You know, for those still iffy about to expandable storage, remember this. The one has a 64gig variant. Most of the devices out right now with expandable storage can only take a 64gig card maximum anyways. And that's only on a few devices.
I would understand if the one only had a 16gig variant. Even I wouldn't buy it with a 16gig internal storage either. But has a 32 and 64gig variants. So what's the deal?
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I have no problem not having a piece of crappy plastic on the back of the phone. This is the direction htc is going in.
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Shasarak said:
With both of my previous phones, after less than a year the battery was substantially less efficient than it was when it was new - held less charge. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same one for 3 years. It's also nice to have the option to replace it with a higher-capacity one.
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I have a Desire Z, which came out, I believe, November 2010. I got a larger Mugen battery for it as soon as it was released, maybe two or three months afterwards. I've been using that battery ever since. So that's over two years. It still holds its charge really well, I don't have any complaints.
I hear what you're saying though, it is a concern. The question is, how easy would it be to open up the One and replace the battery? Probably really difficult, which means that, effectively, these devices have a short lifespan.
It is a shame, really.
I don't think it's always either/or when it comes to unibody designs and an easily servicable battery - imagine if you could slide out a "cartridge" from the bottom of the phone, which would contain the battery, SIM card, SD card. The best of all worlds. The only compromise would be the latch to keep it locked.

I open phones to replace parts and etc. evo and evo 3d were easy to open and fix, evo lte was a bit complicated, but this guy is up there with Iphone, when it comes to opening and replacing part, I did not see any openings or areas where screws would be hidden, so replacing the battery is out of the question.
I keep three charged batteries with me all times (I saw Miami heat players leaving their hotel in Boston when they were here for a playoff a couple of years ago, and got to talk and shake hands w lebron and wade but couldn't take pictures because my battery had died) since than I dont buy any phone that does not have a removable battery. Right now I have a 16 gb note 2 with a 64 gb sd card and both are almsot full, I just like having an option to do what I want when I want to. If I didnt want those options I would've went with the iphone!
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One thing I forgot to mention that really caught my eye was blink feed.
Its pretty much windows 8 but very sexy.
And best feature for me so far and the most fun has been the IR capability, I been using the phone to control tv and cable box and its a great otions to have.
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nas02302 said:
One thing I forgot to mention that really caught my eye was blink feed.
Its pretty much windows 8 but very sexy.
And best feature for me so far and the most fun has been the IR capability, I been using the phone to control tv and cable box and its a great otions to have.
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Do you have the phone? Could you give us the list of countries the channel guide of the SenseTV supports?

this is a good phone !
this phone is truly awsome !
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truly this phone met up to expectation
camera build very good as well !:good:

nas02302 said:
I open phones to replace parts and etc. evo and evo 3d were easy to open and fix, evo lte was a bit complicated, but this guy is up there with Iphone, when it comes to opening and replacing part, I did not see any openings or areas where screws would be hidden, so replacing the battery is out of the question.
I keep three charged batteries with me all times (I saw Miami heat players leaving their hotel in Boston when they were here for a playoff a couple of years ago, and got to talk and shake hands w lebron and wade but couldn't take pictures because my battery had died) since than I dont buy any phone that does not have a removable battery. Right now I have a 16 gb note 2 with a 64 gb sd card and both are almsot full, I just like having an option to do what I want when I want to. If I didnt want those options I would've went with the iphone!
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It'll come apart. The HOX had no obvious openings either but you just need to pry the screen out and you've got access to everything. Being an aluminium body rather than polycarbonate (which could flex to allow you to get the screen out) there will have to be a proper way to pull it apart.
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I did not see see any openings for screws or an area where I can pry it apart..... will update once i get the phone
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coupetastic-droid said:
You know, for those still iffy about to expandable storage, remember this. The one has a 64gig variant. Most of the devices out right now with expandable storage can only take a 64gig card maximum anyways. And that's only on a few devices.
I would understand if the one only had a 16gig variant. Even I wouldn't buy it with a 16gig internal storage either. But has a 32 and 64gig variants. So what's the deal?
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This. I'm getting real tired of the argument about not enough storage. I feel at this point with a 64gb internal storage the point is invalid. Why would anyone have that many movies on a phone. Or music? I enjoy watching clips but a whole 2 hour video on my phone? No thanks. I loaded up all my music onto Google music a long time ago and have never has problems since trying to listen to it. Idk, I have never really had a problem with storage and I use my phones a lot!
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nas02302 said:
I did not see see any openings for screws or an area where I can pry it apart..... will update once i get the phone
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Well of course they aren't going to be obvious
http://www.droidsage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/HTC-One-Unibody-Design.jpg
Look at the inside of the body along the side - a whole bunch of tiny tabs. My guess is these hold the screen in, pry the plastic side of the phone away from the screen (may need special tool) and the tabs will release the screen. Once screen is out you have access to everything.
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How bout you tell us why you are GOING to buy the s6/edge..

I'm going to buy the edge because it looks bad ass! they got rid of the removable battery, guess I'll get a battery pack if the fast charging doesn't make up for it.. they got rid of the ext sd slot, guess I'll use dropbox or transfer files to my computer that take up to much space.
I'm personally moving from my htc m8.. I'm ready for something new. I love that samsung is pushing the tech with the curved screen. Sucks that it is more expensive but oh well.. Price to pay for new technology. I can't build my own phone.. Ha ha
Let's hear why you all will buy the s6/s6 edge

Because it is the "next" big thing
I'll be buying the Edge because it is finally time to replace my Galaxy Nexus. The Edge looks amazing, and I can't wait to get my hands on those curves.

das boot said:
I'll be buying the Edge because it is finally time to replace my Galaxy Nexus. The Edge looks amazing, and I can't wait to get my hands on those curves.
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And I can't wait to see you cracking your edge.

I need the S6 Edge to go with 65" curve UHD TV........

I'm getting m9. I won't be getting s6 cos of ui, hardware design thats it really.
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I'm thrilled with the new fingerprint scanner. If it's as accurate as Apple, that's a major improvement over the old swipe scanner.
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I'll be getting the Edge because it has no SD card and no removable battery. Glad they got rid of those.

I'll just get the normal S6, unless I can get my hand on the edge before the release and test it out. Just think it's moreof a gimmick, and nothing that I'll really use.
Only thing that I dislike is not having the removable battery and SD card....but I guess that I'll get used to it.

I see no reasons why not to get it! Yes, you can claim that not having an sd card slot its a big deal, but no for me. I dont keep all my life on my cell phone, thats juts dangerous. If anything is taking space on my phone, I move it to my computer and problem fixed. Love the Edge, and will be getting it for sure, I just hope that they are distributed in sufficient numbers.

if you need more than 128 gb on your phone it might be time to get help for social media addiction

Seriously, I don't see how this is that upsetting to some people. There is a MASSIVE trend right now indicating a shift to cloud-based storage. About five years ago, music was either physically on your phone or on an mp3 player, photos were internal storage and then later copied to a pc, Microsoft and Google now allow files to be edited and stored within the cloud when they couldn't even be viewed on most phones 5 years ago, and we have Google drive/drop box for the myriad of items in between.
It is getting harder and harder to justify having gobs of physical storage on hand.
The S6 and S6 Edge are absolutely gorgeous, in nearly every color. Fast charging and using 14nm and ddr4 ram will greatly reduce the need for a removable battery.
I'll admit, it sucks that samsung has moved to the model of not having an external storage option or a removable battery. What has happened (and trust me, they've researched this more than any of us combined) is that they've realized we don't actually need those things.
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Not sure if I'm getting the regular or edge yet. Why would anyone not get this phone? Best display, best cpu, best gpu, fastest NAND. Wolfson DAC for top of the line audio processing. Camera the only thing I'm disappointed on so far. From what I've seen the Note 4 is better. Needs some tweaks. Oh and the phone itself looks nice in design which is the most shocking. SD cards and removable batteries are for 16 year olds that play games nonstop and neckbeard wannabe programming otakus. There is plenty of Chinese phones for you nerds to buy while Samsung is enjoying record breaking sales.

phobia09 said:
Seriously, I don't see how this is that upsetting to some people. There is a MASSIVE trend right now indicating a shift to cloud-based storage. About five years ago, music was either physically on your phone or on an mp3 player, photos were internal storage and then later copied to a pc, Microsoft and Google now allow files to be edited and stored within the cloud when they couldn't even be viewed on most phones 5 years ago, and we have Google drive/drop box for the myriad of items in between.
It is getting harder and harder to justify having gobs of physical storage on hand.
The S6 and S6 Edge are absolutely gorgeous, in nearly every color. Fast charging and using 14nm and ddr4 ram will greatly reduce the need for a removable battery.
I'll admit, it sucks that samsung has moved to the model of not having an external storage option or a removable battery. What has happened (and trust me, they've researched this more than any of us combined) is that they've realized we don't actually need those things.
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You know why cloud storage doesn't make sense for me? Music. I have about 300gb of it. Music is why I cherish having SD. Its normal for me to download a few albums on any given day and want to listen to them. For me, that means not waiting hours for it to upload tom the cloud. Also, I have a somewhat stingy data plan and would tear through my 3gb month cap in a week of streaming from the cloud. What if I'm at a friends house and on a whim decide I want his DVD rips of some thing or another? No way in hell I'm waiting hours for it to transfer, may as well download it myself.
Also, not having an SD slot sort of bullies me into buying a higher capacity device when I would normally go for the lowest tier and just boost its storage with an SD. Its unfortunate that storage prices don't scale the same way they do on SD cards as they do on an actual phone model...
All that said? I still may end up with an Edge, because that **** is cool as hell looking.
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No, I will not be herded into cloud Storage, no I won't pay a yearly fee.
Still, the Galaxy S6 Edge is the real deal. I think they'll give us back the sdCard next year
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blownupp said:
You know why cloud storage doesn't make sense for me? Music. I have about 300gb of it. Music is why I cherish having SD. Its normal for me to download a few albums on any given day and want to listen to them. For me, that means not waiting hours for it to upload tom the cloud. Also, I have a somewhat stingy data plan and would tear through my 3gb month cap in a week of streaming from the cloud. What if I'm at a friends house and on a whim decide I want his DVD rips of some thing or another? No way in hell I'm waiting hours for it to transfer, may as well download it myself.
Also, not having an SD slot sort of bullies me into buying a higher capacity device when I would normally go for the lowest tier and just boost its storage with an SD. Its unfortunate that storage prices don't scale the same way they do on SD cards as they do on an actual phone model...
All that said? I still may end up with an Edge, because that **** is cool as hell looking.
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300gb of music? That's wild, man, haha! I think it's safe to say samsung wasn't thinking of you when they designed this phone lol.
I see how being faced with these limitations sucks in your scenario. I don't know what I'd do if I had needs like yours. I've got less than 10gb of music and don't really watch movies or TV on my phone. So for me, as it will be for most users, a 32gb s6 is likely more than enough, though I'll probably get a 64gb to be safe.
One could argue apple has sort of taken the "bully" approach with having to choose a measly 16gb or go up to 64gb. At least samsung offers 32gb for its base model.
Best of luck, if you get the edge, I hope you enjoy it!
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Galaxy S6 Edge is my pick. I once confirm the battery life I will replace my LG G2. I like the cleaned UI and the curved screen.
After so many years of my experience with Symbian and Android I am now at a point where care about battery life, good screen colors, premium look and no lag UI. I don't like the idea of phone getting bigger and bigger beyond 5.5". I am really not so confident about LG G4 especially when they say the pixel count is more than 1440P which would result in bad battery and laggy UI just like in the G3.

kolembo said:
No, I will not be herded into cloud Storage, no I won't pay a yearly fee.
Still, the Galaxy S6 Edge is the real deal. I think they'll give us back the sdCard next year
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The phone comes with 115 GB OneDrive free storage

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The phone comes with 115 GB OneDrive free storage
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Cloud isn't the future. Especially outside big, developed markets. Here, 3g has good coverage but the speed sucks, in crowded areas it's even worse. I'll never trust the cloud for privacy, we all know the governments are spying on us, I don't want then spying my files too.
But still, I may get a GS6, because the rumors say the Edge is going to be insanely expensive here.

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Cloud isn't the future. Especially outside big, developed markets. Here, 3g has good coverage but the speed sucks, in crowded areas it's even worse. I'll never trust the cloud for privacy, we all know the governments are spying on us, I don't want then spying my files too.
But still, I may get a GS6, because the rumors say the Edge is going to be insanely expensive here.
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The second the file is on ur phone the government knows about it, it doesn't have to be in the cloud

Why I won't be getting an S6

While the camera and processor of the new S6 looks amazing, the lack of external memory and battery changing is a deal breaker for me.
Let's start with the memory. Samsung's claim that they don't need to have the external memory slot is because 1.) The on board memory is faster 2.) Android doesn't really allow you to install apps to the external memory anymore 3.) They now offer 128GB models.
While all the above is true, that does not mean i don't want my external memory. Let's start with the price of the phone. A 16GB model will be the base. Then for another $100, you can get the 32GB. Another $100, you can get the $64. And then for another $100 (or probably $200), you can get the $128GB. That means, that the extra memory will cost you at least $300-$400. And remember, this is on a phone that will only last you 1-2 years before you want to upgrade it. So that is $300-$400 wasted. On the other hand, I can buy a Sandisk 128GB microSD card for $100. Everytime I switch phones, I can easily take my memory to the next phone. It's an investment that does not get wasted.
The speed or Android limitations of the external memory doesn't matter for things like movies, ebooks, comics, magazines, music, etc. I keep all that on my memory card, and it loads in less than a second on my phone. On top of that, when I need to load more items, I don't use the slow USB 2.0 interface. I pop out my microSD and put it in my $15 USB 3.0 reader and copy my multimedia over 3-4x faster. With the internal memory of the phone, I would be stuck using a USB 2.0 interface to copy multimedia which can take ridiculously long.
Oh.. and for added bonus, when I want to watch a movie on my Galaxy Tab S 10.5, I can take the 128GB memory card out of my phone, and pop it into the tablet. No muss, no fuss.
Now let's look at the battery.
Since Samsung used the glass back, you can no longer have replaceable batteries. This is my biggest issue with iPhones. I had to set up a charging station at my apartment for all my friends who came here, as their iPhones were always on low battery (or even dead). Meanwhile, I could bring a small pocketable battery with me everywhere. I keep one in my winter jacket and have one to slip into my jeans. I currently have a Note 4, and have only had to change the battery twice, but it's nice not worrying the entire night that showing my friends pics or texting with a friend, will result in a dead battery for the night.
Sure, you can carry a external battery charger.. But now you have to carry that and a cable that needs to be strapped in all the time to charge. (BTW.. if a manufacturer of these external batteries comes up with a way to utilize Fast Charging to charge the phone 50% in ten minutes, they will make some big $$$$)
I'm not even going to get into the topic of all the cracked iPhone backs I see daily... Which depending on the strength of this new gorilla glass, will probably happen.
Basically my point is, the reason I didn't make the move to iPhone (which 95% of my friends have) is due these options. By removing them, Samsung has made less options available for me to claim that my phone is better than an iPhone.
I'm going to stick with my Note 4. But Samsung.. if you do this same thing to the Note 5, I am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone. (EDIT: I am NOT moving to an iPhone.. I guess no understands my humor)

No external memory, no exchangeable battery, no way! What alternatives do we have if we limit this discussion to high end Android phones?

I agree with the all the key points made by EvanWasHere, furthermore, the reason I didn't go for the iPhone, is because no matter how much internal memory they give you, everything you load into your phone such as pictures, video, music, apps., etc......... Will eventually will impact the performance of your phone, unless you upload everything to a virtual storage, such as Drop Box, Google Drive etc...... I think I am going for the Note4.

No replaceable battery makes the AMOLED screen the only reason to still stick with Samsung. Given that a Galaxy phone is still pricey, I wonder if it is this one feature which is worth sticking to Samsung.
Looks like they don't like non-business customers to buy their devices anymore.

I'm not sure where you get $300-$400 from... There is no 16GB S6, it starts at 32GB. Also many Android phones go up by $50 per storage capacity, while a few go by $100 increments. Either way, you are looking at either $100 or $200 more for a 128GB over a 32GB, not $300-$400. Stop being so dramatic.
USB 2.0 is 480Mbps (60MB/s), and from my SanDisk 64GB MicroSD card I usually get around 50MB/s on my USB 3.0 card reader, so it's really not that much slower.

Why downgrade?
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !

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1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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I agree with you on some of the points . No micro sd is a huge one. But this dramatic change is much needed for samsung because the s5 wasn't doing so well and if they came up with another s5 then it's going to be a big loss for them. I personally think this is the best decision samsung took. People got tired of the same recycled galaxies and the numbers are showing this. Sales are down apple is back things aren't looking good.
The galaxy s6 would've been amazing if it had a bigger battery and a micro sd. Otherwise, this is truly a powerful device that's much more polished than any previous iteration.

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i am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone.
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memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then

malek777 said:
People got tired of the same recycled galaxies and the numbers are showing this. Sales are down apple is back things aren't looking good.
The galaxy s6 would've been amazing if it had a bigger battery and a micro sd.
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Nothing against you bro, but I just want to point out something so quoted you!
Sales are not down because of recycled galaxies...think about it for a second. Sales are down because of the saturated market, and all the super phones! I won't name them all since you can pick just about any to compare and we see the power of these devices i.e. the note 4 what CAN'T it do, the S5 the g3, I phone 6, Nexus 6...
All of the above mentioned are the reason sales are down.
Same reason why development is down also, the devs have so many choices and devices to support it got overwhelming...think HTC HD2 had so many devs they were tripping over each other cause everyone had that phone. Now not only many phones also variants like edge, active, mini further hampers this.
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GreeleyXda said:
memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
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While I appreciate your points, this is probably how the discussion went at Samsung that led to the poor decision to drop so many of the staple features. The case argument it's the worst...7-9 hundred dollar premium phone and you need to buy more stuff to make it work like it used too (should)! TAKE THE PHONE APART??? Ya they took that feature away REMEMBER!
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I'm going to stick with my Note 4. But Samsung.. if you do this same thing to the Note 5, I am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone.
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No external memory and non user replaceable battery is deal breaker for you for SGS6, but you will move to iPhone? On iPhone can you swap battery or you have external memory?

Some interesting points I personally could live without non removable able battery and possibly sd card forsake of a beautifully crafted premium looking phone. However I fear Samsung are going to go crazy on the price which will be a complete put off. Base price is £579 for the 32gb version and probably another £50-£100 for next model up, which is a rip off just like iPhone.
Edge will probably come in at £699 for 64gb which is crazy even though it looks fantastic.
having said all that I'm really pleased spammy finally moved away from crappy plastic which was really costing them just one more major change required get rid of TW and possibly amoled and try lcd.

Yeah, Second thing I usually do with my phone is root and flash to stock to get rid of TW.
First is to swap the microsd out from my old phone, and buy a spare battery and plastic case, so premium build is sort of lost on me, and the rest....
Setting my hopes on the G4 now.

For all of you who are ranting about this phone not having a removable battery, I ask a serious question: How many times have you actually swapped batteries out? And if you have swapped, is it because you basically let your phone die (meaning you had opportunities to charge it but didn't just because you had the battery)?
I don't think I've EVER had my G3 die on me - and this phone is not known for its battery life. I have a charger at work and a charger at home and I'm usually at one of these places so I'm never far away from a charger. Does not having a removable battery IN ACTUAL USE really make that big of a difference? If the S6 can last you from morning to night, is that not enough?

My S4 is currently carrying its third battery, the two previous ones (one Samsung, one third-party) slowly died of old age (decreasing health with increasing charging cycles). I rarely forgot to charge my phone over night. It's just that I'd like to use it until the actual hardware fades away, not just until the battery lifetime is reached.

Japultra said:
For all of you who are ranting about this phone not having a removable battery, I ask a serious question: How many times have you actually swapped batteries out? And if you have swapped, is it because you basically let your phone die (meaning you had opportunities to charge it but didn't just because you had the battery)?
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I've never switched the battery in my phone, well since my Ericsson T18. But there wasn't a phone since that I ddin't have to remove the battery to turn it off completely, because something got stuck and kept crashing. Or it was the easiest way to boot into recovery after a boot loop. Tablets without removable batteries have reset switches, but any software method you use can't reinitialize hardware as a physical power off can.

This thread was inevitable. I mean Samsung could even make pigs fly, but there will be threads like this. The whole galaxy section is littered with such threads, which shows the sorry mental state of our society. Just relentless cribbing, crying and whining.
You know what, I get it you don't like it, you won't buy it and like some other device. Perfect. Why don't you go to HTC/LG/Sony/Apple forum and post a positive comment why you actually want to buy that phone instead of crying in this S6 forum? Saying something positive (don't mean astroturfing) is much better than reading this non-stop negative comments.
- So you feel that you should encourage others also not to buy the phone
- You want sympathy from the other members that Samsung failed to live to to your high standards and expectations
- You want to start a movement to force Samsung to stop the launch and give you want you wanted
- You feel the members are not educated enough to judge what's good for them
- Just sharing your thoughts and feel obliged to open a new thread even though the exact thing was mentioned probably 7450 times in last 2 days.
^^ These are the only options I can think about. If this is the usual 'sharing your feelings' option, I think one of the Moderators should open a "GS6 SUCKS" thread where everyone of us can go and put all our diatribe.
We have now come to a state where these comments/threads are nothing but a
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riz157 said:
Some interesting points I personally could live without non removable able battery and possibly sd card forsake of a beautifully crafted premium looking phone. However I fear Samsung are going to go crazy on the price which will be a complete put off. Base price is £579 for the 32gb version and probably another £50-£100 for next model up, which is a rip off just like iPhone.
Edge will probably come in at £699 for 64gb which is crazy even though it looks fantastic.
having said all that I'm really pleased spammy finally moved away from crappy plastic which was really costing them just one more major change required get rid of TW and possibly amoled and try lcd.
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Apparently the base model for the UK is going to be the 64gb model so I don't know how this will affect the pricing which has not been confirmed anywhere . If you go on the Samsung UK site they only have 64gb and 128gb listed .

allmine1976 said:
Apparently the base model for the UK is going to be the 64gb model so I don't know how this will affect the pricing which has not been confirmed anywhere . If you go on the Samsung UK site they only have 64gb and 128gb listed .
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This will save dumb buyers from buying too small of a memory size.

VICosPhi said:
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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Sounds like the s5 is perfect for you! No need to buy another phone....unless you're one of the "sheep" that believes you MUST upgrade every year.
The unibody design is the only real difference over the s5. A faster processor that you won't notice unless you use an app to tell you how fast it is, and some minor software tweaks. The good news is, you already have the phone to fit your needs!
Can't please everyone. The number if people crying about a removable battery is small compared to the ones who don't care. Samsung s6 sales will be through the roof with this new design...then what argument will you guys make? Keep your current phone, problem solved.

GreeleyXda said:
memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
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I've had multiple microSD cards. 16GB, 64GB, and now 128GB. In 3-4 years of service, swapped between 3 Samsung phones, the 64GB only became flaky once, disconnecting every once in a while. So I had it warrantied. I still retained all my data. Total cost of the cards is still less than I would be paying with a phone that essentially loses value in 1 year. And yes, Android did make it harder to use external SD, but they fixed most of that in Lollipop. It is still fine for multimedia.
Cloud storage is NOT an option. 1.) Cloud storage is slow depending on where you are. My T-Mobile phone drops from LTE to 4G for no apparent reasons sometimes. Plus, when I'm in the air, on the subway, etc, I have no service. So for me to want to watch a 2GB 1080P movie during those time from "cloud storage" is impossible. 2.) Cloud storage costs a month fee as well as has a cap on file size. Have a 8GB 1080p MKV movie.. too bad.. can't store it on your cloud provider.
I don't want a cell phone case with an extended battery in it. The whole point of having a newer phone is a smaller size. As for taking the phone apart to change the battery... No..
I was making a joke about going to iPhone. I have been Android always, but Samsung is the one making the similarities too complete.
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No external memory and non user replaceable battery is deal breaker for you for SGS6, but you will move to iPhone? On iPhone can you swap battery or you have external memory?
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I was making a joke about the iPhone move. See above.
CLARiiON said:
This thread was inevitable. I mean Samsung could even make pigs fly, but there will be threads like this. The whole galaxy section is littered with such threads, which shows the sorry mental state of our society. Just relentless cribbing, crying and whining.
You know what, I get it you don't like it, you won't buy it and like some other device. Perfect. Why don't you go to HTC/LG/Sony/Apple forum and post a positive comment why you actually want to buy that phone instead of crying in this S6 forum? Saying something positive (don't mean astroturfing) is much better than reading this non-stop negative comments.
- So you feel that you should encourage others also not to buy the phone
- You want sympathy from the other members that Samsung failed to live to to your high standards and expectations
- You want to start a movement to force Samsung to stop the launch and give you want you wanted
- You feel the members are not educated enough to judge what's good for them
- Just sharing your thoughts and feel obliged to open a new thread even though the exact thing was mentioned probably 7450 times in last 2 days.
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Oh you poor thing. You had to read my post. Sorry for that. Have a cookie. It will make you feel better.
The POINT of this post is to go on record so hopefully someone from Samsung can see it, and realize that they are hurting their fan base. There are now dozens of articles now talking about this, but without giving it a voice from individuals, Samsung may continue down this path. To try and silence this with a broken record image is pointless and doesn't help the discussion. But thanks for taking the time to write that all out.
On another note, this was just tweeted: https://twitter.com/aadetugbo/status/572446586938232832 (reddit discussion here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2xpld4/one_explanation_on_why_the_s6_has_no_sd_card/ )
"Another of the hidden benefits - this type of RAM. The amount of RAM - 3 GB, the system will not work in 32 and 64 bits. In December 2014, Samsung launched the industry's first production of mobile memory chips LPDRR4 density 8Gb (20 nm process). This technology allows to produce memory chips up to 4 GB, currently available chips 2 and 3 GB (8 and 6 Gbit chips). The maximum data transfer rate of this type of memory is 3.2 GB / s, that is twice higher than the chip rate DDR3, used on the PC. Such a data rate of the following tasks - recording 4K for an unlimited time, simultaneous recording of HD-video on the front and rear camera, continuous shooting at a resolution of 20 megapixels with no limit on number of images. Also, the use of this type of memory is a partial explanation for the rejection of memory cards. Why so? It is because by using slow memory cards, many operations can be problematic, and have main memory can be occupied with user data. Normal users will not understand what the problem is, because there is free memory, which means a bad phone and manufacturer".
I still don't find this explanation acceptable. Especially using 4K, the internal memory will be filled. If I was going out for a day and shooting videos, I would love to have the option of shooting 4K to my internal and moving these videos to my external card as my internal filled. And normal users will not have a problem understanding why the memory is slower as not every normal user would buy an external memory. And those that do, can have a simple pop up on the screen when the phone sees the memory that states that there may be issues or slowness due to this memory.

What really happened in the Project Zero revamp meeting.......

OK We're going to redesign our flagship phone from the ground up.......no compromises........no legacy baggage........no repeating of old mistakes...........where shall we start?
Well the iphone 6 has no expanded memory, no removal battery and it's the best selling phone out there....and as we're goign to launch the S6 perhaps if we make it similar enough people might think our S6 is in fact an I6?
Sounds good to me, let's do that then.
Seriously though, why throw away your differentiators because you're suddenly losing market share at the top end of the market? Instead trim the far too many number of devices and bring out faster updates for your existing devices (part of the reason updates are so slow is the software teams are spread way too thin over far too many different devices).
Speaking personally I've stopped buying Samsung devices until a year after they've launched and on the expectation that I'll get no more software updates.......because that's when they become cost efficient......usually 50% of launch price and still perfectly adequate devices.
The S6 is not going to solve their issues IMHO as they're trying to address the wrong problem.

Well you answered most of your own questions. They lost market share as the S5 sold well but not well enough with HTC and Sony making a decent impacts with their handsets. Samsung wants to be the one to beat so it makes perfect sense that they'd replicate a winning formula. Why wouldn't they? They're a commercial entity, they're in it to make money and sell as many as they can. For every person who won't buy it because it doesn't have an sd card or removal battery they will gain a ton more because to the average consumer these things aren't as important as having a super stylish phone which takes great photos and works well.
On that note; having a removable battery wasn't going to last forever. They were a niche in the market at this point. Other android manufacturers bucked this trend long ago and it hasn't dented people buying those handsets so it was only natural that Samsung were eventually going to do it as well. They made a point of addressing this in their unpacking saying that they wanted to wait until they reached a point where they knew battery life wouldn't be a problem so by using their own processor and using more efficient internals they felt that they were at a point to do this.
It's pretty much a similar story with the SD card not having expandable storage. With cloud and whatever else, it's never been easier to move extra files from your phone that aren't vital to other sources. Does the average consumer really need 64GB/128GB of storage? I severely doubt it. The biggest drain will be photos and music. 32GB will probably cut it for the average consumer but now there are more options for those who need those extra GB's. I too at first was skeptical as I like the idea of having an external SD card having finally got used to having it on my HTC M8 but I didn't miss it on my M7, I just wish i had more space. Having it on the M8 just meant I could add more music I wouldn't listen to anyway. I'm definitely guilty of that. Again, it's worked for the iPhone so why not anything else?
I have to commend Samsung really. For the first time I'm actually considering changing from HTC and I've had every flagship by them since the Hero. The S6 Edge in particularly looks fantastic IMO. They've listened to what people's main concerns were and changed them, then enhanced everything else and borrowed from Apple the things that work for them. My concern right now is the battery life which is the only thing that is going to potentially hamper this device. Even Touchwiz looks much refined and I have a Note 2 I picked up for when I travel abroad and absolutely despise it.
The proof will be in the pudding but I expect the S6 to be the best selling handset of the year and providing there are no concerns with the battery think it will even beat the M9 this year as Phone of the Year. As much as it pains me to say that.

I also feel the reason we only get a 16GB or 32GB version in the US (or worse in some markets) is the expandable memory excuse the carriers throw at customers. See you don't need a 32/64/128GB iPhone you can put a microSD in the phone and voila 16GB+128GB its MORE. Well its not, because nothing beats having all of your memory built in accessible for apps, BIG APPS we all like to play. Samsung can use more of their own memory, make more profit for their own company, they make everything including the kitchen sink so why not use their own display, memory, processor, etc and only outsource the parts they have to like the Sony Camera module. Also using Exynos across the board allows for standardization and perhaps that means when it comes to Android updates it won't take 8 months to get it out the door because they only have to build it for one processor instead of 2 or 3.

While it can be frustrating for a phone not to have a feature you use quite often, those people who are upset about a non-removable battery and no microSD card option HAVE to realise that they are in a very small minority. For MOST people, not having these options will not affect their experience.
I know very few people with Androids that have a microSD card reader who actually have a microSD card. And for the majority of people, 32 GB will be plenty enough for them.
My music collection dates back 15 years and in those 15 years, I haven't even acquired 32 gb of music! I honestly don't know why someone would want to put 10,000 songs onto their phone for. At an average of 3.5 minutes a song, that's 35,000 minutes (or 583 hours or TWENTY FOUR days worth) of music. Does anyone really need that much on their device at any one time?

More than 95% of the general public simply don't care about removable batteries or sd cards. XDA doesn't even represent 1% of smartphone buyers. I'm not saying I like these changes, just that the random Joe that doesn't know much about smartphones but will still spend $200+ buying one doesn't say "oh no, I can't remove this phone's battery or put an sd card. Let me get a different phone". They don't care, and Samsung will not cater to a overwhelmingly small minority.
Personally, if that was the tradeoff for having a beautiful metal and glass phone then I'm more than pleased.

I sure hope the future has more sd slots and removable batteries.

Its shocking for some people to realize that 99.9999% of other people don't believe in the same things that they believe in and that they are an insignificant minority.
As much as I love removable battery and SD slot, I'll give them up for beautiful design. The s5 had everything except the kitchen sink but a pig with lipstick is still a pig, imho.
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I don't get why people get 'outraged'. I can understand disappointed, but come on - is a phone!
There are plenty of other phone options. Don't buy a new one at all if none of the new ones meet your needs.
To say samsung had lost their mind, or failed, is ridiculous. They just made a phone that doesn't appeal to YOU. They think it will appeal to more overall customers, and they are probably right. If they are wrong they'll make changes on the S7.
TLDR: is fine if the s6 doesn't appeal to you. Wait for another phone or buy something else. No need to get upset.

xavier2k3 said:
Well you answered most of your own questions. They lost market share as the S5 sold well but not well enough with HTC and Sony making a decent impacts with their handsets. Samsung wants to be the one to beat so it makes perfect sense that they'd replicate a winning formula. Why wouldn't they? They're a commercial entity, they're in it to make money and sell as many as they can. For every person who won't buy it because it doesn't have an sd card or removal battery they will gain a ton more because to the average consumer these things aren't as important as having a super stylish phone which takes great photos and works well.
On that note; having a removable battery wasn't going to last forever. They were a niche in the market at this point. Other android manufacturers bucked this trend long ago and it hasn't dented people buying those handsets so it was only natural that Samsung were eventually going to do it as well. They made a point of addressing this in their unpacking saying that they wanted to wait until they reached a point where they knew battery life wouldn't be a problem so by using their own processor and using more efficient internals they felt that they were at a point to do this.
It's pretty much a similar story with the SD card not having expandable storage. With cloud and whatever else, it's never been easier to move extra files from your phone that aren't vital to other sources. Does the average consumer really need 64GB/128GB of storage? I severely doubt it. The biggest drain will be photos and music. 32GB will probably cut it for the average consumer but now there are more options for those who need those extra GB's. I too at first was skeptical as I like the idea of having an external SD card having finally got used to having it on my HTC M8 but I didn't miss it on my M7, I just wish i had more space. Having it on the M8 just meant I could add more music I wouldn't listen to anyway. I'm definitely guilty of that. Again, it's worked for the iPhone so why not anything else?
I have to commend Samsung really. For the first time I'm actually considering changing from HTC and I've had every flagship by them since the Hero. The S6 Edge in particularly looks fantastic IMO. They've listened to what people's main concerns were and changed them, then enhanced everything else and borrowed from Apple the things that work for them. My concern right now is the battery life which is the only thing that is going to potentially hamper this device. Even Touchwiz looks much refined and I have a Note 2 I picked up for when I travel abroad and absolutely despise it.
The proof will be in the pudding but I expect the S6 to be the best selling handset of the year and providing there are no concerns with the battery think it will even beat the M9 this year as Phone of the Year. As much as it pains me to say that.
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Well you answered most of your own questions. They lost market share as the S5 sold well but not well enough with HTC and Sony making a decent impacts with their handsets. Samsung wants to be the one to beat so it makes perfect sense that they'd replicate a winning formula. Why wouldn't they? They're a commercial entity, they're in it to make money and sell as many as they can. For every person who won't buy it because it doesn't have an sd card or removal battery they will gain a ton more because to the average consumer these things aren't as important as having a super stylish phone which takes great photos and works well.
On that note; having a removable battery wasn't going to last forever. They were a niche in the market at this point. Other android manufacturers bucked this trend long ago and it hasn't dented people buying those handsets so it was only natural that Samsung were eventually going to do it as well. They made a point of addressing this in their unpacking saying that they wanted to wait until they reached a point where they knew battery life wouldn't be a problem so by using their own processor and using more efficient internals they felt that they were at a point to do this.
It's pretty much a similar story with the SD card not having expandable storage. With cloud and whatever else, it's never been easier to move extra files from your phone that aren't vital to other sources. Does the average consumer really need 64GB/128GB of storage? I severely doubt it. The biggest drain will be photos and music. 32GB will probably cut it for the average consumer but now there are more options for those who need those extra GB's. I too at first was skeptical as I like the idea of having an external SD card having finally got used to having it on my HTC M8 but I didn't miss it on my M7, I just wish i had more space. Having it on the M8 just meant I could add more music I wouldn't listen to anyway. I'm definitely guilty of that. Again, it's worked for the iPhone so why not anything else?
I have to commend Samsung really. For the first time I'm actually considering changing from HTC and I've had every flagship by them since the Hero. The S6 Edge in particularly looks fantastic IMO. They've listened to what people's main concerns were and changed them, then enhanced everything else and borrowed from Apple the things that work for them. My concern right now is the battery life which is the only thing that is going to potentially hamper this device. Even Touchwiz looks much refined and I have a Note 2 I picked up for when I travel abroad and absolutely despise it.
The proof will be in the pudding but I expect the S6 to be the best selling handset of the year and providing there are no concerns with the battery think it will even beat the M9 this year as Phone of the Year. As much as it pains me to say that.
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Confirmed: no microsd in Note 5 :(

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/07/expecting-the-galaxy-note-5-to-have-a-microsd-slot-dont/
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/01/galaxy-note-5-sm-n920-tech-specs-and-s6-edge-leaked/
This sux. I wont be buying Note 5 now
Ps: updated info on Note 5 confirms the rumours.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/14/new-galaxy-note-5-and-s6-edge-renders-surface/

toofimoofi said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/07/expecting-the-galaxy-note-5-to-have-a-microsd-slot-dont/
This sux. I wont be buying Note 5 now
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you should have understood that when sammobile have started bashing microsd cards.

I think it's a good decision from Samsung. MicroSD just slows the device down. It already does, for example resuming of the Note 4 will be 300 ms faster if you have the microSD card removed. And I'm not even talking about file access itself. And the difference is now even going to get bigger. Just buy a phone with a decent amount of internal memory if you need it.

Meh, this is my last samsung device.

snap, no sd card no sale from me, likewise removable battery....
my wife was due a upgrade and wanted the s6 but because of this she is staying with the note 2.

People always compare the speed but in actual use, do you really need it to be THAT fast? SD card is really important if you have a lot of offline media. It doesn't make my device less useful or enjoyable if there's that microsecond lag or whatnot. Note 4 will be my last from Samsung then.

Sucks if true...
I like SD and removable battery! Hope that they dont copy the S6!!!

freezingpoint said:
People always compare the speed but in actual use, do you really need it to be THAT fast?
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Yes, that's the whole idea of upgrading to a newer phone, right ?

But with no noticeable difference in real world usage or unnecessary need/want, a normal user won't upgrade immediately anyway.

I would never need another battery for my phone. As long as its 64gig or higher im fine with no micro sd.

The article sounds more like speculation rather than any reveal from a source.
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I don't mind if they up the internal size to 64/128 standard considering the type of phone that it is, but I also don't believe I'm the typical user either. I go on trips and will take thousands of photo and video combinations. Transferring them via usb on my Mac Pro(same problem on my other PCs) would take a life-time because of how slow the Samsung program takes, so I just pop the microsd on an adapter and stick it into my computer and let everything transfer in a few minutes.

by Samsux hello LG

that's not a bad thing,only if no removeable battery.

gekkehenkie11 said:
I think it's a good decision from Samsung. MicroSD just slows the device down. It already does, for example resuming of the Note 4 will be 300 ms faster if you have the microSD card removed. And I'm not even talking about file access itself. And the difference is now even going to get bigger. Just buy a phone with a decent amount of internal memory if you need it.
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Absolutely disagree with your opinion about this, even though you are kinda right.
The whole concept of the microsd slowing the phone down is wrong already. SDcards are there for external storage, not in any kind of use in combination of apps.
Also when you choose between 64 GB and 128 GB internal storage, you might drop an extra 200 bucks just for extra storage. Where a sd card is WAY cheaper.
They probably also remove the SD so the phone gets thinner; What is it with people and extreme thin phones?
Don't we all agree we would rather have an extra bit of juice instead of an 7mm thick phone? its just ridiculous.

Looks like I made the right choice in getting my Galaxy Note 4 N910C rather than waiting for the Note 5. Not having a user removable and microSDCard expansion is a deal killer for me.

Armazia said:
Absolutely disagree with your opinion about this, even though you are kinda right.
The whole concept of the microsd slowing the phone down is wrong already. SDcards are there for external storage, not in any kind of use in combination of apps.
Also when you choose between 64 GB and 128 GB internal storage, you might drop an extra 200 bucks just for extra storage. Where a sd card is WAY cheaper.
They probably also remove the SD so the phone gets thinner; What is it with people and extreme thin phones?
Don't we all agree we would rather have an extra bit of juice instead of an 7mm thick phone? its just ridiculous.
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Good post, I'm in complete agreement. I don't understand Samsung. One of the major benefits of buying the Note 4 or S5 was the removeable battery and MicroSD. Those features are also why people stick with Android instead of moving over to the dark side.
It must be a cost issue, there's no other rationale. If they are saving £5 per device by fixing the battery in place and removing the MicroSD slot, then that very quickly becomes a significant revenue boost when you're selling 1 million devices.
I'm not due an upgrade until September 2016, which will be Note 6 territory. If the Note 6 has a fixed battery and no MicroSD slot, then I won't be buying it.

The nexus 6 is looking like a more compelling upgrade now
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dam**
the every time i want to have clean flash on note 5 , i should backup my data !!! aaaAAAAAAA disaster ...

Just don't buy the note 5 and be sure to let Samsung know why. No removable battery and no microSD is pretty crappy if you want to use your phone with the Gear VR or as a work phone without having to be glued to an outlet. I'm also expecting it to ship with android 5.1.1 as well, so it's an immediate no-buy for me as it will hardly be any better than the current Note 4. The note 6 on the other hand is going to be a significant improvement and will hopefully come with all the bells and whistles (samsung's custom core SoC).