New to the this forum. - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I've had a HTC Incredible S and just got a Google Nexus 4. This phone looks awesome already. I was wondering, what's the difference between 'Android Dev' and 'Original Android Dev'?
Thanks.

Incredible2011 said:
Hi,
I've had a HTC Incredible S and just got a Google Nexus 4. This phone looks awesome already. I was wondering, what's the difference between 'Android Dev' and 'Original Android Dev'?
Thanks.
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Welcome to the Nexus 4 section, @Incredible2011.
I have a little request in the beginning. Kindly, take your future questions to Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting.
Coming over to your query, here is the answer.
Android Development is a sub-section which comprises of ROMs/Kernels/Mods and tweaks which are not self-compiled or developed, or are usage of some other developer's work. It mostly contains Stock modified/tweaked ROM, Kernels and enormous minimal tweaks.
While, Original Development is a sub-section area where all the actual ROM/Kernel/Mod development goes. Everything that is worked out by the developer himself shall be posted there. You will find all the source compiled ROM/Kernels like CyanogenMod, ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, Franco's Kernel etc in this section.
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Incredible2011 said:
Hi,
I've had a HTC Incredible S and just got a Google Nexus 4. This phone looks awesome already. I was wondering, what's the difference between 'Android Dev' and 'Original Android Dev'?
Thanks.
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Welcome buddy you won't regret swapping....stick with us mate, we'll show you the way
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Hi, I'm Memento and I am delighted to participate in this great community recognized internationally
Greetings from Spain :laugh:

Nexus 4 community is getting bigger each day

Its good there are so many new members, just wished people would read and search more themselves instead of asking/posting even the most basic things. Read the stickies and the OP`s of the kernel/rom you want to flash. None the less welcome you all

Thanks all for clearing that up and for the warm welcome. I hope to be helpful in any way I can and hope to learn from you all!

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*POLL* - Merging Original Android Development and Android Development

Keep the thread alive and up guys.
Here are some very nice suggestion!​
Hello community.
As you all know and see there two different thread
Original Android Development
Android Development
In this two thread you can find different ROMs.
Therefore it is in some cases difficult to distinguish in which thread a ROM have to be. Some DEVs (@ the Android Development) think they are at the wrong place but the Mods doesnt want to move their thread.
Please make here you choice if you want the old subdivision (only Android Development) oder if you like the new one (Original Android Development and Android Development).
It would be nice if you can leave here your reasons for your choice..
Uh quite nice!?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16205643&postcount=186
https://twitter.com/#!/VillainROM/status/98306513713635328
I quote it in case of be deleted, VillainROM Tweet 2 Aug. 10.17 am:
@VillainROM
VillainROM
LMFAO mate @Fysi. Can you vote for the 2 forum system at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1198080 ^P
What are the interests of Villain Team, to keep forums separated?
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16295037&postcount=27
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
Nice idea but i dont think that radios should have an extra thread. They can sty with kernels.
What do you mean with
roms(org/non)
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org/non = original/non Samsung or original/non AD?
veyka said:
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
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+1
It is nice not seeing a 'new' rom being posted every two minutes where the only difference is the theme.
Perhaps the section titles could be a little bit clearer, For example: Android Development, and the other section called Themed Roms?
Id like to see even more splitting for ROM+Kernel and Kernel only releases, Its really a PIA sometimes to sort the threads out when your looking for something and it kinda scares off the newbie with a ton load of information and choices presented to him when his just looking for something specific.
Id say have a separate release for ROM+Kernel in 1 subforum and another for kernel only.
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Its another way to increase post count
veyka said:
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
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I think that tagging is very important, I prefer only one section, but with very stricted thread's TAGGING...
And I think that is very important explain the non-cosmetic changes in every ROM.
Regards!
Exactly, strict tagging, good references as to where the rom was based on, and credits where needed.
One thread.
only one Android Development
One forum for development, one for roms and stuff. I have no interest in reading about the majority of the problems people have in installing a ROM, but would be interested in seeing the technical threads (if we still have technical threads here...)
Merge the Development forums again and require [ROM] and a date in the subject.
Require all [ROM]'s built from another 'original' rom's sources to have [DERIVATIVE] or something like to identify them with a link to the source rom in the thread.
Pull [KERNAL]'s out to a second forum, again require a date.
Create a 'Technical' forum and move all the discussion, speculation and stickies that clutter up the other ROM forums into here.
Create new forum for non-android development (like Backtrack or potential Linux releases).
I would suggest using [KERNEL] instead
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i would suggest using [kernel] instead
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+1
Even if they decided to split they shouldn't be partial. Why is villain and darky rom in original development? They both look similar to stock to me with some mods.
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Personally, I like the idea of having a forum specifically for new ROMs. I can see the benefit of keeping modifications to ROMs in one forum and the real thing in another.
kirdroid said:
Even if they decided to split they shouldn't be partial. Why is villain and darky rom in original development? They both look similar to stock to me with some mods.
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Not stock kernel for starters on VR and that's the core of it .
jje
I like the idea of keeping photoshop roms separate from true developer roms like CM7.
Seriously, everyone who can use winzip and photoshop can make a rom and publish here, and from the looks of it, they do. It it were up to me, I'd actually not open a separate board, I'd delete them all.
As the creation of two separate dev boards was not motivated by any intention to make the forum easier for the user I'd have to say merge them back please. Seeing how it was motivated by greed and favoritism, indicated by the ROMs placement on one board or the other, I'd say screw this nazi maneuver, get your head out of your asses and realize you're all just tweakers and the ONLY REAL DEVELOPER IS SAMSUNG AND THE CM7 TEAM. So as the two forums are, only stock ROM and CM7 should be in the "real" dev forum. The rest of you take OTHERS work and tweak it (yes make it better etc etc, and we are all grateful for that). But come on you're not some super genius hacker dev here (and YES I appreciate your work and have donated but you are not "original developers"). As stated above this is about a "good ole' boys club", nothing else. Pathetic.
Endoran said:
As the creation of two separate dev boards was not motivated by any intention to make the forum easier for the user I'd have to say merge them back please. Seeing how it was motivated by greed and favoritism, indicated by the ROMs placement on one board or the other, I'd say screw this nazi maneuver, get your head out of your asses and realize you're all just tweakers and the ONLY REAL DEVELOPER IS SAMSUNG AND THE CM7 TEAM. So as the two forums are, only stock ROM and CM7 should be in the "real" dev forum. The rest of you take OTHERS work and tweak it (yes make it better etc etc, and we are all grateful for that). But come on you're not some super genius hacker dev here (and YES I appreciate your work and have donated but you are not "original developers"). As stated above this is about a "good ole' boys club", nothing else. Pathetic.
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+1 nothing to add
+1... So many stock Samsung roms are still in original development forum. All this is nothing but favoritism.
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What's the difference between Android Development and Original Android Development?

Seriously, I have no idea, came from an Amaze 4G with just the Android Development. At first I thought it was a Nexus thing, but the optimus G has two as well
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Basically everything in the original section is made from scratch, while in the android dev section its taken from the original section and modified.
It's more like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
So which would you say is better, more well rounded, and less buggy?
Original Development covers the whole spectrum. From barely works to just beautiful. If there are bugs the developer will squash the bugs. Development Forum is likely to have less bugs because they take the already good work and put in their stuffs. But if there is a bug, expect to wait a while for it to be addressed.For a good phone with a lot of awesome developers as the Nexus 4, Original Development is the way to go. If you're just looking for small mods, go to Development.
Thanks for the explanation.
On other question, does anyone know a guide explaining how trebuchet/launcher3 works and how to modified it?
I wanna learn how to code for android and add a few features.

[ROM] the best JB 4.1.2 ROM for the SGS3 GT-I9300 in my opinion

Hi all
I am new here, and yes I am not a developer, as well as, I am so happy that I have been moved to SGS3 after using iPhone. Android world is amazing. The reason I am posting such thread, its because I want to share my little experience with ROMs for the SGS3.
I used to use the Cyanogenmod 10 the nightlies, with some issues and bugs are there, and I was looking for such ROM which can handle the Daily use without any problem, finally I found this one Resurrection Remix JB v3.1.2, which is the best in my opinion for those who are using the CM10 nightlies until they CM team come out with the stable mode.
it is in this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815285
I used it, it is stable, battery friendly and smooth, no issues at all.
I am just sharing my experiences, because I was mistaken when I was thinking about CM10 is the best yet, but when I try the RR I found out, the truth.
I would like to thank the management of the forum, and the members as well, and I am so sorry if there is any typos mistakes or such things, because my native language is the Arabic.
I am from Dubai, and I am so happy to be a member here.
regards
Nasser
Still, the words "best" and "rom" shouldn't be used in the same sentence. "best rom" threads aren't allowed whether you're asking for the specifically or you're stating which the best rom is. It's all a matter of one's own preferences.
Not one of these threads again. :thumbdown:
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Welcome to xda.
First of all, congratulations on your phone choice. It was certainly a change for the better. :good:
Now, on the topic of ROM preference, please visit this thread and read about "Best ROM" is considered around here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
Hope you enjoy Android as much as we all here do. I picked S3 over iPhone 5 and do not regret my decision one bit.
So sorry guys, I wanted to help others. Thats why I used these words.
Again and again, Thank you very much.
appreciate all the replies.
regards
Nasser
These threads are not allowed. Please read the sticky on this matter
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New Android ROM Team

I am new to xda-developers but I am an experienced ROM developer. I want to put together a team of modders. If anyone is interested please tell me!
roffiscoder said:
I am new to xda-developers but I am an experienced ROM developer. I want to put together a team of modders. If anyone is interested please tell me!
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My team is needing one more like you.
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roffiscoder said:
I am new to xda-developers but I am an experienced ROM developer. I want to put together a team of modders. If anyone is interested please tell me!
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You should start by telling what kind of device you have...
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what kind of devices? i'm working with a couple motorolas and htc's but i'm sure plenty of testers can be found and can expand to many other devices. i'll be honest. I have built several ROMs from source and have TONS of saved mods and tweaks which i can refer to but I'm not good at working with interface. btw I am on the official team for SwiftLinux, so I have plenty of Linux experience, but tbh one again I won't be the BEST asset to the team but with guidance I have been looking for this for a long time and I am willing to do anything to get on a with some expereinced ROM builders to show me what I don't know, and to add my time (which is about 18 hrs a day) to helping put out great ROMs. I know how to build from source, I know how to port, I can use kitchen, I have experience pretty much everywhere, the only place I've really failed is UI mods.
lemonoid said:
what kind of devices? i'm working with a couple motorolas and htc's but i'm sure plenty of testers can be found and can expand to many other devices. i'll be honest. I have built several ROMs from source and have TONS of saved mods and tweaks which i can refer to but I'm not good at working with interface. btw I am on the official team for SwiftLinux, so I have plenty of Linux experience, but tbh one again I won't be the BEST asset to the team but with guidance I have been looking for this for a long time and I am willing to do anything to get on a with some expereinced ROM builders to show me what I don't know, and to add my time (which is about 18 hrs a day) to helping put out great ROMs. I know how to build from source, I know how to port, I can use kitchen, I have experience pretty much everywhere, the only place I've really failed is UI mods.
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Hi lemonoid
if you wanted to help us impoverished guys over on Tablet Republic with ROM development for the i.MX6 quad core Sanei N10 tablet it would be fantastic.
It's still only ICS but we were hoping for JB and a dual boot version with Ubuntu like the upcoming DaVinci Nibbio which is being released mid March.
Sorry if this is out of line but we need all the experienced help we can get as far as ROM development is concerned.
Thanks
Not out of line at all. I think all ROM development is great!
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We could use new devs for the HTC desire, we don't have good working camera in android 4.x or kernel 3.. If you are interested, the desire community will be thankful..
Greetz
The epic 4g touch section has a bunch of great devs. But we have lost a few. Im sure they wouldnt mind more help.
Since the losses, i think they've been having trouble with a few different things. We have great 4.2.2 roms, but no official samsung releases. For some reason, they cannot get JB modems to work. No CWM touch recoveries, and a few bugs that havent been solved for a while.
Just giving you options.
TimHermans said:
We could use new devs for the HTC desire, we don't have good working camera in android 4.x or kernel 3.. If you are interested, the desire community will be thankful..
Greetz
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Do you need anyone for the HTC Wildfire S?
I'm a dev look at my profile I need more dev and themer if you want join us see all mysterious rom in n4 n7 s2 and tonight s3, galaxy nexus. Just send me a pm
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roffiscoder said:
Do you need anyone for the HTC Wildfire S?
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Sorry but no, actually don't know, to be a bit selfish I just need someone for Desire..
Verstuurd van mijn Sony Xperia Tablet S
roffiscoder said:
I am new to xda-developers but I am an experienced ROM developer. I want to put together a team of modders. If anyone is interested please tell me!
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Dev for the Oppo Find 5
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Opinions Anyone?

Hi All!
First, I would like to thank everyone here at XDA for helping me into the world of ROMs. I've barely scraped the surface and already love the whole process. A BIG thanks to the devs! I can't believe how much work they put into these things and then throw them up here for free (donations hardly account for the time and effort).
So anyways, on to the topic.
I have tested out a few roms but I am still hesitant to flash too hastily. I was wondering if anyone has tried a few of the AOSP varient roms (PA 3+, Slim Beam, AOKP Task650, PAC and CM 10.1) and which is providing the best battery life while remaining nimble. I am currently running PA 3+ and I am in love with Pie and Halo. I am aware that Halo is open source. I don't want to, but I could let go of Pie. So any ideas? I own a SGH-I337.
Again thanks XDA!
Cheers
Cody
ceichel said:
Hi All!
First, I would like to thank everyone here at XDA for helping me into the world of ROMs. I've barely scraped the surface and already love the whole process. A BIG thanks to the devs! I can't believe how much work they put into these things and then throw them up here for free (donations hardly account for the time and effort).
So anyways, on to the topic.
I have tested out a few roms but I am still hesitant to flash too hastily. I was wondering if anyone has tried a few of the AOSP varient roms (PA 3+, Slim Beam, AOKP Task650, PAC and CM 10.1) and which is providing the best battery life while remaining nimble. I am currently running PA 3+ and I am in love with Pie and Halo. I am aware that Halo is open source. I don't want to, but I could let go of Pie. So any ideas? I own a SGH-I337.
Again thanks XDA!
Cheers
Cody
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My two favorites have always been Task650's aokp and PA 3+
Task's ROMs have always been good to me on speed, stability, and battery life.. I have had mixed results depending on the device with PA 3+.. I tested PA 3.56 the other day but I'm waiting to flash again till a few more updates hit then we'll see
I'm currently on a touchwiz rom basically for the camera and ir blaster but again if I was going run aosp again (which I'm sure I will lol ) it will be one of those 2
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rcklss1 said:
My two favorites have always been Task650's aokp and PA 3+
Task's ROMs have always been good to me on speed, stability, and battery life.. I have had mixed results depending on the device with PA 3+.. I tested PA 3.56 the other day but I'm waiting to flash again till a few more updates hit then we'll see
I'm currently on a touchwiz rom basically for the camera and ir blaster but again if I was going run aosp again (which I'm sure I will lol ) it will be one of those 2
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Awesome! Thanks for the quick reply. AOKP is the top runner of ROMs I wanted to try next. Is the battery life or performance noticeably better than PA 3+?
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ceichel said:
Awesome! Thanks for the quick reply. AOKP is the top runner of ROMs I wanted to try next. Is the battery life or performance noticeably better than PA 3+?
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I'm not sure on the newer PA as I ran the first release for the s4 but I get about 13hrs from tasks aokp and around 15 hours on touchwiz ROM.. So for me I still consider that good but you'll have to see for yourself.. Every chip and every users use is different.. Also make sure you run each ROM you try for a few days.. Kernels take a few days to really settle in and start giving you optimum battery life
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rcklss1 said:
I'm not sure on the newer PA as I ran the first release for the s4 but I get about 13hrs from tasks aokp and around 15 hours on touchwiz ROM.. So for me I still consider that good but you'll have to see for yourself.. Every chip and every users use is different.. Also make sure you run each ROM you try for a few days.. Kernels take a few days to really settle in and start giving you optimum battery life
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Thanks! Anyone else try CM 10.1 or slim beam?
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ceichel said:
Thanks! Anyone else try CM 10.1 or slim beam?
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Many people have tried them. Read the threads and test them out. It all comes down to personal preference, which is why these types of threads are not allowed.
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plwalsh88 said:
Many people have tried them. Read the threads and test them out. It all comes down to personal preference, which is why these types of threads are not allowed.
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Oh. Sorry. Didn't see that in the thread rules. As I said I'm still a little nervous to flash hastily. /killthread
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ceichel said:
Oh. Sorry. Didn't see that in the thread rules. As I said I'm still a little nervous to flash hastily. /killthread
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The only way to calm those nerves is to just read read read. And then bite the bullet and flash. You'll realize how easy it is once you actually understand what you're doing and not just listening to "customer reviews".
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ceichel said:
Thanks! Anyone else try CM 10.1 or slim beam?
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I've got CM 10.1 running on mine and I like it. A few things I miss over stock but I'm sure they will be brought back. Although with the newest nightly release I am not having any trouble anymore. Battery life is pretty on par with stock, I'm sure I could adjust settings but I am still getting used to it. Reminds me of more of a computer setup which I like. Oh and I did a few tweaks on it and when connected to good internet it is lightning fast on the download/browser side and just fast and smooth in general.
As far as flashing it, it was a piece of cake.
plwalsh88 said:
Many people have tried them. Read the threads and test them out. It all comes down to personal preference, which is why these types of threads are not allowed.
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i, for one, look for these type of threads if i've been away a while and want to find out what roms are most stable/popular right now. i never understood why this question was so taboo around here. not everyone wants to or has the time to read pages upon pages before we flash.
thank you to all the devs/testers/members for always making this such an amazing place
Dillsnik said:
i, for one, look for these type of threads if i've been away a while and want to find out what roms are most stable/popular right now. i never understood why this question was so taboo around here. not everyone wants to or has the time to read pages upon pages before we flash.
thank you to all the devs/testers/members for always making this such an amazing place
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So you don't have the time to read through a thread regarding a ROM that a dev took the time to make for you, but you have plenty of time to go and flash it? What a way to thank them that is. Cause saying "thank you to all the devs" is a cop out. And ending a post like that with that sentence is just a slap in the face to every one of those individuals.
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Dillsnik said:
i, for one, look for these type of threads if i've been away a while and want to find out what roms are most stable/popular right now. i never understood why this question was so taboo around here. not everyone wants to or has the time to read pages upon pages before we flash.
thank you to all the devs/testers/members for always making this such an amazing place
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If there were hundreds of ROMs available for each device, I could understand allowing these type of threads. The simple fact is with only a (relatively) small selection, the debate of "which ROM is better" is just so independent of user habits and preferences that they really hold no merit. Look at how long the "Ford or Chevy" debate has been going on.... If you're looking for a ROM that has specific features such as PIE, or Halo; that just lowers the number of available ROMs pretty drastically. How time-consuming is it to read a ROM's OP, which usually shows known bugs, and then test-drive a few of the ROMs to see which you prefer? With the right apps, it shouldn't take more than 5 or 10 minutes to have a clean-flashed ROM feeling like you've been using it for days. As for rooted/stock TW, look at the mods that are included. If it looks appealing, try it out. The amount of ROMs available with specific features relative to other ROMs is so small that it really shouldn't take more than a week to determine which ROM(s) you prefer; battery life not withstanding. Notice I didn't say which one would become your daily driver or favorite As for battery life, user's definition of "heavy use" differs pretty greatly. I personally put my phone through some "heavy use" today; almost 2 hours screen-on time. To someone else that would be classified as moderate, etc.
My advice, which really doesn't amount to much of anything, but still.... pick your ROM the same as you would pick your device; which choice provides (in good working condition) the features I want most? Second choice would be "Out of the ROMs which provide the specific features I want, from which ROM did I notice the best battery life?"
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So you don't have the time to read through a thread regarding a ROM that a dev took the time to make for you, but you have plenty of time to go and flash it? What a way to thank them that is. Cause saying "thank you to all the devs" is a cop out. And ending a post like that with that sentence is just a slap in the face to every one of those individuals.
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not sure why you're so sensitive about this buddy....
you have to understand that not all of us are on the same level here. i have been a member of this community for 7 years now...longer than many. but i can't keep up with probably 90% of the users on this board. for me, i am just never going to be able to keep up to date on everything currently going on in dev world. It takes me MANY hours when i come back to the board to find something out, flash a rom, pick a new phone, etc. i just do not have time to really read through every thread on every rom i am considering. i'm not a high enough user or up to date enough that when i read about one phone has from another i will understand what is different. so the only way i can really "get" what is a good rom, is by reading in a thread like this. call my praise a cop out, but i do appreciate this community and it's dev's more than you know, and i don't feel reading a 100 page thread is the way to show appreciation.
I completely understand both sides of this argument. I think we should respect the devs whole heartily. But what's the matter with getting some personal opinions from a few other users? Maybe create a thread specifically from ROM reviews. I have done a considerable amount of reading and as I said I feel that I have barely scratched the surface. This is a process with a steep learning curve and I believe it should be a main purpose of a forum devoted to android and development that people should be able to ask other users their opinion. I will not create part such as this any more because it is not allowed, but I do not see the harm.
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you said one word in your post that is exactly the type of word that i think is why people do NOT like these kinds of threads: REVIEWS.
and i get that. all of these devs work hard and they put a lot of themselves out there for the world....to potentially be judged, to some extent, by noobs like us, that don't know any better, and couldn't do any better. And yes, some devs are ahead of others, but this forum has always been gracious and respectful to ALL devs and all dev work. And i have seen threads with polls of which users use which rom, and i think having some roms out there to just be judged, bashed, or ignored, is partly why the community disapproves of any thread that might "discuss" a which ROM is best type of conversation. I think there is a way to do it and still be very helpful to some, and more importantly, respectful to all.
ceichel said:
I completely understand both sides of this argument. I think we should respect the devs whole heartily. But what's the matter with getting some personal opinions from a few other users? Maybe create a thread specifically from ROM reviews. I have done a considerable amount of reading and as I said I feel that I have barely scratched the surface. This is a process with a steep learning curve and I believe it should be a main purpose of a forum devoted to android and development that people should be able to ask other users their opinion. I will not create part such as this any more because it is not allowed, but I do not see the harm.
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A thread which reviews different ROMs sounds good in theory. A one-stop place to quickly scan through the pro's and con's of each ROM and read what other users are saying about each ROM does seem like a good idea. But think of 2 weeks from now; when most every ROM has posted an updated version, merged new changes, fixed certain bugs, introduced new bugs, and added new features. Within a month's time it would become so cluttered and disjointed that new members/device owners would just post a new thread asking the same exact question because it's faster than reading through 100 pages of the original topic. A ROM review thread would almost certainly be just like each individual ROM's development thread put into one place. Way too long to read, one user complaining, a handful echoing the complaint, another handful giving praise, etc.
On an unrelated note, if I remember correctly, there is a thread here on the AT&T side saying something like "Noob friendly, no question too stupid" or something. Instead of posting new threads about the same tiresome topics, why not find a relevant thread and post the question there? Example: if you want clarification on how to root your device, post it in an already established rooting thread. If you want to know which recovery is best or suggestions on what ROM to flash, try a noob-friendly "ask any question" thread.
lordcheeto03 said:
A thread which reviews different ROMs sounds good in theory. A one-stop place to quickly scan through the pro's and con's of each ROM and read what other users are saying about each ROM does seem like a good idea. But think of 2 weeks from now; when most every ROM has posted an updated version, merged new changes, fixed certain bugs, introduced new bugs, and added new features. Within a month's time it would become so cluttered and disjointed that new members/device owners would just post a new thread asking the same exact question because it's faster than reading through 100 pages of the original topic. A ROM review thread would almost certainly be just like each individual ROM's development thread put into one place. Way too long to read, one user complaining, a handful echoing the complaint, another handful giving praise, etc.
On an unrelated note, if I remember correctly, there is a thread here on the AT&T side saying something like "Noob friendly, no question too stupid" or something. Instead of posting new threads about the same tiresome topics, why not find a relevant thread and post the question there? Example: if you want clarification on how to root your device, post it in an already established rooting thread. If you want to know which recovery is best or suggestions on what ROM to flash, try a noob-friendly "ask any question" thread.
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Well said. I'll check out the mentioned thread. Thanks!
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ceichel said:
Thanks! Anyone else try CM 10.1 or slim beam?
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Love slimbean loyal user ran it on my last 3 devices use it current very stable if u like the smaller DPI like I do its great and never seen a bug that wasn't an upstream issue
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