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[ROMs] What does not work in each rom

I've been endlessly scouring this section of the forums for the last few weeks trying to figure out which rom would work best for me. There is one problem though, I can't for the life of me figure out which things work/do not work in each of the major roms. It's really important to me that nothing/minimal is broken in a rom that I choose. I'm hoping to make and maintain a list of specifically what does NOT work in each rom to help make the choices easier to sift through. The 1st posts of official rom threads usually have some things listed, but reading through the (million page) threads yields more issues.
The only problem, however, may be that most people are using a different combo of kernal/rom/hardware which obviously changes things, so I'm hoping to try and sift through that too. Perhaps make some tables to make it easier.
The Evo rom wiki has tables but only outlines basic functions.
*Mods: thought long and hard about which section to put this in, I think it's best served here.
*Devs: I'd love personal input here if possible. Thanks.

nomadicthoughts said:
*Mods: thought long and hard about which section to put this in, I think it's best served here
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Just sayin. This section is supposed to be for posting ROMs and development related items.
I'm not a mod so It's up to them, but, this should be in Q&A.

JoeLithium said:
Just sayin. This section is supposed to be for posting ROMs and development related items.
I'm not a mod so It's up to them, but, this should be in Q&A.
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Well, it is directly related to ROMs and development, but yeah if this isn't the right section please move it.

I totally understand the problem your having though. It's a bit unorganized but it's partially because of the vast development community that the Evo has. There is a wiki at the top of this section that might grant a little more insight. I don't know if it's exactly what your looking for.
P.S.
I do like to play "forum police" though I'm not a mod. I can understand why you posted here and it wasn't a blatant disregard for the rules. So no biggy to me anyway. The reason I get pissed is because it's already so cluttered that more threads make it that much harder.

You have to look in the OP of each thread in the android decelopement section and choose based on what you need from your phone and what you want. Myn's warm twopointtwo works perfectly for a sense rom and there is a cyanogenmod 7 beta with ewimax out now. So it has everything but HDMI working for a gingerbread aosp rom

Well here are some tips for you:
If it's a stock based Sense rom then everything should work unless the dev is an idiot.
If it's an AOSP rom then everything but hdmi and 4g should work (and 4g actually has a fix and can be made to work now)
If it's a port of another rom then hdmi, 4g, and typically the camera won't work (but this usually gets fixed). Sometimes various sensors aren't working properly either (like orientation)

We take a stock Rom and a stock kernel and twist the hell out of it way beyond its means and then ***** about what works and what does not!
Bad topic!
Devs don't want to hear this crap that what pm's
Are for and ops and such I understand you but worthless topic and it only benefits you and not the community!
You can't even follow edicit
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I had the same problem as you a while back. In my opinion, if you are rooted you have already done the hard work. You now have a custom recovery with nandroid, a godsend, which you can use to fall back on if anything were to go wrong. My advice would be to just take the plunge. Grab a handful of ROMS that sound suitable to your needs and start to flash them. If you get stuck in bootloops or the ROM isn't what you want, all you have to do is nandroid and start over. I would recommend to give each ROM at least 2 battery cycles before you decide. On my setup, it seems to take a bit to "settle in". I think if you tried to make tables of ALL possibilities it would be mind boggling to sift through.
I realize this isn't a direct answer to your question, its just my thoughts. Hope it helps and good luck!

eVoKINGS said:
We take a stock Rom and a stock kernel and twist the hell out of it way beyond its means and then ***** about what works and what does not!
Bad topic!
Devs don't want to hear this crap that what pm's
Are for and ops and such I understand you but worthless topic and it only benefits you and not the community!
You can't even follow edicit
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To the Op, If its sense based, nothing will be broken. If the rom is AOSP, then 4G and HDMI are broken, however Cyanogenmod is the only AOSP rom with a semi-functional 4G. Also if the rom is Gingerbread 4G, and HDMI are broken, and likewise again, Cyanogenmod 7 is the only Gingerbread mod with a semi-working 4G. The way the ROM's work right now unless its an alpha wimax ROM for AOSP, then flashing a different kernel won't affect the features of the ROM, unless you forgot to wipe before flashing. You can simplify your list down to 2 categories Sense and AOSP, if its SENSE everything works, if its AOSP, 4g and HDMI are broken, and under the AOSP you can list the 2 Alpha releases of wimax for Cyanogen.
Simply put, if you want everything to work, then try these Sense based Roms:
Mikfroyo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
Myn's Warm: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
Calkulin's EVIO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745205
If you don't mind not having 4G(or don't live in a 4G area), and don't plan to use HDMI, then check out these AOSP Roms:
MIUI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527
Cyanogen mod 6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735596
Evervolv (gingerbread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878020
Cyanogen mod7 (gingerbread): 2 Links below
ROM: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?type=nightly&device=supersonic
GAPPS: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110120-signed.zip
*****To eVoKINGS******
Learn manners please KINGS, the guy thought he had the correct section, and apologized if it was the incorrect section and requested it be moved. If you don't like it don't post in it, he was already informed by others that it was the incorrect section, and then you had to try and jump down his throat about it.
Your posts are composed like they belong to a 12 year old kid googling words to sound older. You can't blame it on auto-correct, I use my EVO to compose a-lot of text messages and the words are never misspelled because I proof read what I type with it, so that I don't come across jabbering like an idiot.
And yes i realize my retort back at Kings is completely contradictory to what I had just typed.

Thanks so much. I was just trying to help the 'tweeners' in my position, those who have some but not too much experience with roms. And the entire reason I even asked/bothered to offer my time was because each ROM thread has numerous issues that are hard to decipher as being general widespread issues, or single isolated issues, and the process of sifting through gargantuan threads is pretty tedious.
small example: some roms have keyboard display issues
But I digress
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And to eVoKings, yeah it's awesome that you take a kernel and rom and twist the hell out of it, but in the end I'm the one using the kernel/rom and still want it to be fully functional (and everybody has a different definition of what exactly that constitutes). I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people who actually THANK devs, it's great. But you have to learn to take criticism too (even if it's free)

ROMs ROMs and more ROMs

Can someone tell me whats up with the 50+ ICS ROMs? It's a bit concerning that all this effort seems to be put into reproducing the same exact thing. I think the community would benefit from cooperation rather than competition... But I feel like I must be missing something here, I am new to the Nexus S but not to Android, is there something about the Nexus S community that I'm not getting?
Not complaining at all, or should I say, I'm not trying to complain. I also want to point out that I appreciate the developers who pour their time and effort into our devices and help us to get the maximum value out of them.
(Want to note, I am running AOSP's ICS build and loving it.)

joenathane said:
Can someone tell me whats up with the 50+ ICS ROMs? It's a bit concerning that all this effort seems to be put into reproducing the same exact thing. I think the community would benefit from cooperation rather than competition... But I feel like I must be missing something here, I am new to the Nexus S but not to Android, is there something about the Nexus S community that I'm not getting?
Not complaining at all, or should I say, I'm not trying to complain. I also want to point out that I appreciate the developers who pour their time and effort into our devices and help us to get the maximum value out of them.
(Want to note, I am running AOSP's ICS build and loving it.)
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Hey Man, I am much similar to where you are right now. I am not new to Nexus S or Android, but I feel that the abundance of ROMs is a good thing.
Having so many ROMs shows that the device is still running very strong: Something Android phones NEED to have behind them.
On the other hand I dislike it. To all the developers out there, I think you guys are amazing and genius no doubt. So take the following lightly...
What people don't like to see when browsing for a ROM is a dozen ROMs that are all identical. We need something new and fresh, hence why I like MIUI.
What I think should be done is as you said, have co-operation to make one master ROM because we have hundreds of people in the Nexus S community ready to help.
Speaking on my behalf I HATE SO MANY ROMs Because I simply cannot decide which is best because they are all similar in many ways, and I don't have time to try each one out as much as I want to. I do like having these ROMs but when it comes to choosing one its a big choice for me.
Any feedback on this?

I agree with a not so great abundance or ROMs. But most are not devs. They are simply "chefs" because they never actually developed anything. They just price and scrap things from source to mods. Cm9, ASOP, Peter A(because of his radios and kernal) are devs. We have lots of chefs.
I made brickROM just because of this situation. Its never been done, but the community wasn't ready for it yet.
Either way you can tell what rom has Is "real" I would say there's about only 5
And its sad for new Android users that come here get presided by a catching slogan and rob themselves from using a much better rom
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What would you do if you don't like any of the existing ROMs? May be one is missing a feature you need, another just has too many features you don't want? The answer is simple -- create your own ROM, or modify an existing one... I think most devs just make the ROM they want to use as their daily driver and simply share it here (i.e. what's going on is not about competition, at least from my point of view)
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that

suksit said:
What would you do if you don't like any of the existing ROMs? May be one is missing a feature you need, another just has too many features you don't want? The answer is simple -- create your own ROM, or modify an existing one... I think most devs just make the ROM they want to use as their daily driver and simply share it here (i.e. what's going on is not about competition, at least from my point of view)
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that
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But these futures found in everyone's ROM are just mods that you can flash. I flash 8 zips with every rom update but I know that a personal mix so I have no need to share it.
I'm capiale of changing my waklppaer
I flash custom font, and inverted apps with some tyranny Widgets and kernal. With gnex sounds. No reason to "cook" it. This is not development.
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suksit said:
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that
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The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen

joenathane said:
The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen
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I am agree with you CyanogenMod need a bug tracker for CM9.

Here is an interesting fact in case anyone didn't know but MR. Cyanogen himself is rocking a Nexus S http://twitter.com/#!/cyanogen/status/153353404159234049
I wonder what build of ICS he is running, probably from his own private reserve...

joenathane said:
The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen
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I will be honest here and say that I personally dislike Cyanogen Mod for the most part. True that they are the gut best in performance, but if the only ROM I had was Cyanogen, I would not be very happy with it. I just think that for my favor, Cyanogen focus' so much on power, yet takes the look of the ROM as a after thought. The modified music on Cyanogen ROMs and the overall execution of his work lacks style and design, as if he first said "Make it fast, then maybe make it look ok" MIUI on the other hand has a great deal invested in how it looks which gives a very effective illusion of performance.
I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.

LGIQEXPO said:
I will be honest here and say that I personally dislike Cyanogen Mod for the most part. True that they are the gut best in performance, but if the only ROM I had was Cyanogen, I would not be very happy with it. I just think that for my favor, Cyanogen focus' so much on power, yet takes the look of the ROM as a after thought. The modified music on Cyanogen ROMs and the overall execution of his work lacks style and design, as if he first said "Make it fast, then maybe make it look ok" MIUI on the other hand has a great deal invested in how it looks which gives a very effective illusion of performance.
I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.
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The only problem with that is Miui uses CyanogenMod code as a base(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI#Development) and CyanogenMod 7 has the theme chooser integrated for easy themeing(check the last three links in my signature to see some themes I created for it).
I don't think any mod team have contributed more to Android than the CyanogenMod Team, they certainly have my respect for that.
I agree about the spices, all these chefs cooking the same exact entree and now which on to choose...

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The only problem with that is Miui uses CyanogenMod code as a base(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI#Development)
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It's a fact, not a problem.
Back on topic,
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I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.
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I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.

suksit said:
It's a fact, not a problem.
Back on topic,
I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.
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This^^ plus one thing, good all these chefs are popping up, that's showing a swell in number of people interested in development, in the end it can only have a positive outcome. Let em dev.
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It's a fact, not a problem.
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I obviously didn't mean problem in that sense, I meant it as in the 'problem' with his argument not the problem with CyanogenMod or Miui, I'm not sure how you interpreted it the way you did...
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I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.
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what about the "noobs" who are instantly confronted with 20+ ICS ROMs and not a clue to which is worth its weight in salt?

joenathane said:
I obviously didn't mean problem in that sense, I meant it as in the 'problem' with his argument not the problem with CyanogenMod or Miui, I'm not sure how you interpreted it the way you did...
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Sorry if I interpreted it wrong (English is not my native language anyway ) I thought you're trying to imply that "since MIUI is based on CM, @LGIQEXPO shouldn't compare them together" or "if you like MIUI, it means you already liked CM." Just wanted to say that it is not a problem if one wants to compare those two.
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what about the "noobs" who are instantly confronted with 20+ ICS ROMs and not a clue to which is worth its weight in salt?
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Occasionally I'd see a thread titled "Help me decide which ROM is best" and the most popular answer would be "Why don't you try them all?" Yeah it would be madness to try all 20+ ROMs in a row, but I don't think anyone will do that.
Before flashing a ROM, I'd (suggest them to) read everything in the first few posts by the OP, and take a look at the screenshots (most of the time I can decide if I will like this ROM or not by these two factors) If those "noobs" are not too ignorant I believe they'll have a small list of ROM(s) they want to try (may be 4-5 choices, which is reasonable.)

I know it is on the same code, but I more so meant the apps that MIUI re-did for their ROMs, and how they offer a nice end user appeal.
What would be amazing is if all the known devs of these ROMs would just once come together to use their own strengths, and make a mast ROM out of it. MIUI Design and style, Cyanogen tweaks and speed, Peter A. stability, the overclocking everything! (I can't wait for that hahah )

you want fewer rom, get a ns4g. Although we only have a fraction of the roms found in the other forum, they all seem to have their own distinct character.

i was using an SII before this so i was a frequent on that part of xda.. they do have a separate page for original development and another one for development (being kitchen products)

Hey,
Just wanted to add my opinion in all of this that there are so many "equal" roms.
I as some mentioned on another thread am a chef to rom developing, and I don't mind.
Why I do this is because I don't have the time or knowledge to create Android source apps so I take what I think is the best from each rom and create my own.
For example for me CM9 is way to bloated with too many configurations and options I prefer a more real cleaner AOSP, something like Peter Alfonso (buglessBeast), but I do like the T9 dialer from CM9, so I cherry-pick that from CM9 and add it to a PA base.
Also for the notifications power menu I liked TeamKang one so I added that. That way I'm making my own custom rom to my liking and also I don't have to be flashing 20 zips every time there is a new update or wipe my phone
I just thought on sharing it just if some one has the same likes in roms I'm no asking for anything in return. Also I do this in my little free time.
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mandaman2k said:
Hey,
Just wanted to add my opinion in all of this that there are so many "equal" roms.
I as some mentioned on another thread am a chef to rom developing, and I don't mind.
Why I do this is because I don't have the time or knowledge to create Android source apps so I take what I think is the best from each rom and create my own.
For example for me CM9 is way to bloated with too many configurations and options I prefer a more real cleaner AOSP, something like Peter Alfonso (buglessBeast), but I do like the T9 dialer from CM9, so I cherry-pick that from CM9 and add it to a PA base.
Also for the notifications power menu I liked TeamKang one so I added that. That way I'm making my own custom rom to my liking and also I don't have to be flashing 20 zips every time there is a new update or wipe my phone
I just thought on sharing it just if some one has the same likes in roms I'm no asking for anything in return. Also I do this in my little free time.
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Thanks for adding your voice to the discourse.
If I was asked to offer an opinion on what you do, this is what I would say....
I think what you do is okay for you, but the problem is when you release it. There is a problem because as you state, you cherry pick features and/or "code" from other ROMs, and that can/will lead to issues for your user base. Lets take for example the T9 dialer, what happens when security bugs are found and fixed and optimizations make it into an update of the T9 dialer? Well that would mean you would need to update your ROM, but what if you're busy with your job or just with life and are too busy to get around to it? Well now your users of your ROM are without those security, bug fixes and optimizations, and multiply that by all the other pieces of the ROM that you cherry picked from other sources.
My point here to be clear is that due to the nature of your ROM, it will always lag in patches to security issues, bug fixes and optimizations and I think that is ultimately a disservice to your user base.
There is a value that you create, so I guess the question here is, does that value of bringing all these pieces into one convenient package outweigh the negatives of the lagging patches/fixes?
I mean no offense, and I hope this isn't taken as such, I just want to encourage some discourse on these things...

best rom actually?

hi
can someone recommend a nice custom rom from the development section?
thanks
markus

Well... there is no answer, the real question is what is the best rom for you?
You'll have to try by yourself and find your answer
*yoda mode off*
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It is a matter of opinions but try cm10, i use it or aokp
These are the most popular custom roms and has alot of updates esp cm10 but aokp more customizable
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As the poster above mentioned., Cm10 or Aokp. I settled with Aokp and am pretty happy!!!
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Very happy with AOKP here as well on my GT-P5113. I haven't tried CM10 yet but I'm sure it's a smokin' ROM too!

AOKP!!

Hi,
I'm very happy with AOKP Build4 on my Tab2, CM10nightly on my P1000.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835160
Is based on latest ota. Will flash to the 3113 and 3110.

Blackbean ROM is the best period...
But seriously it's very subjective there is no best. Try them all and see what works for you.
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Maximinus I said:
But seriously it's very subjective there is no best. Try them all and see what works for you.
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Only good answer in this thread so far. What one person thinks is the best is not the same as what you think is the best. I don't know if there are 10 different ROMs available, but you could ask 10 people the same thing and get 10 different answers, so the only option is to try everything and go from there.

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Only good answer in this thread so far. What one person thinks is the best is not the same as what you think is the best. I don't know if there are 10 different ROMs available, but you could ask 10 people the same thing and get 10 different answers, so the only option is to try everything and go from there.
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Strongly disagree. These are the worst answers usually spit out by those who are enthusiasts, developers or lifeless fanboys. For the rest of us who dont always have the time to flash rom after rom testing and sorting out issues then resetting up each Rom while learning the differences and quirks we ask for opinions on what Roms are working for others. Yeah Yeah Yeah, in a perfect world it would be best if we could try each and every Rom then decide which one is best but the world is not perfect and peoples schedules vary which can make things difficult for many to do just that. Besides by the time youve gone through the process of installing and testing various roms some get updated and a new one pops up. Now What?
I know many of you think this question is annoying so if thats the case dont answer. Chances are most of those who come here asking the question know that ideally they should try a bunch of different Roms but for one reason or another cant. They are looking for a starting point, or a narrowed down group to test based off recommendations.
I also disagree with the 10 people 10 different answers thing. Im willing to bet the farm (Because I dont have one) That if 10 people try AOKP JB atleast 8 will like it. Because its damn near perfect.
Ive been around here for awhile now and have used this site as a tool to deal with quite a few different devices now and on every device I have been helped or saved time finding the perfect Rom in part due to threads just like this.
Thats the end of my rant and in no way do I mean any disrespect but the only thing wrong with threads like this is too many of you miss the opportunity to make these threads better by providing good solid user feedback.

IFLATLINEI said:
Strongly disagree. These are the worst answers usually spit out by those who are enthusiasts, developers or lifeless fanboys. For the rest of us who dont always have the time to flash rom after rom testing and sorting out issues then resetting up each Rom while learning the differences and quirks we ask for opinions on what Roms are working for others. Yeah Yeah Yeah, in a perfect world it would be best if we could try each and every Rom then decide which one is best but the world is not perfect and peoples schedules vary which can make things difficult for many to do just that. Besides by the time youve gone through the process of installing and testing various roms some get updated and a new one pops up. Now What?
I know many of you think this question is annoying so if thats the case dont answer. Chances are most of those who come here asking the question know that ideally they should try a bunch of different Roms but for one reason or another cant. They are looking for a starting point, or a narrowed down group to test based off recommendations.
I also disagree with the 10 people 10 different answers thing. Im willing to bet the farm (Because I dont have one) That if 10 people try AOKP JB atleast 8 will like it. Because its damn near perfect.
Ive been around here for awhile now and have used this site as a tool to deal with quite a few different devices now and on every device I have been helped or saved time finding the perfect Rom in part due to threads just like this.
Thats the end of my rant and in no way do I mean any disrespect but the only thing wrong with threads like this is too many of you miss the opportunity to make these threads better by providing good solid user feedback.
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Well if the OP used the search button maybe he would find countless threads and answers from "lifeless fanboys" , Kinda gets boring giving every new user a run down of each ROM. So here is a post in a thread by me, made hours before on the same day , in the same forum asking the same thing. May even help If the OP actually said what Tab was involved, My crystal ball is not what it used to be
AOKP build 4 , much more control over the ROM than say CM9/10. You choose what you want and how you want it. AOKP is more suited to the tab IMO as CyanogenMod has to cater for much more devices. Constant builds and updates. Id say AOKP is for advanced users
If you like to twiddle with your devices thats the ROM for you.If you dont , then go for CM10.
If your not that bothered go for AOSP Loads of ROMs to choose from , no way of saying the "best" as it dosent exist. Its a personal choice and to be honest they are all pretty much the samething, just some slighty more customisable than others.
If you want a "Stock" experience go for anything that "RomsWell" builds as its generally stable and all the bloat/crap has been removed.
Search the forums for your specific device and check out the official threads for each ROM. If you don't know what to do ASK in the threads and people will help you out no problems as we are all mostly friendly and helpful to each other.
First thing you should be thinking about is do you want "root" access ( full control over the ROM) ? Search for your device and make sure you understand what's to be done and you have to correct tools to do it. Read it again, you be surprised how many people mess it up and then make posts for help lol.
Once you are more confident with Android , try all the ROMs out , wont cost you a penny and you can see for yourself then but say good bye to your warranty as it will be void as soon as you mess with your tab. If you read up on things you wont have any problems at all.
Good luck and have fun.
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And people wonder why they get short answers to questions.

IFLATLINEI said:
Strongly disagree. These are the worst answers usually spit out by those who are enthusiasts, developers or lifeless fanboys. For the rest of us who dont always have the time to flash rom after rom testing and sorting out issues then resetting up each Rom while learning the differences and quirks we ask for opinions on what Roms are working for others. Yeah Yeah Yeah, in a perfect world it would be best if we could try each and every Rom then decide which one is best but the world is not perfect and peoples schedules vary which can make things difficult for many to do just that. Besides by the time youve gone through the process of installing and testing various roms some get updated and a new one pops up. Now What?
I know many of you think this question is annoying so if thats the case dont answer. Chances are most of those who come here asking the question know that ideally they should try a bunch of different Roms but for one reason or another cant. They are looking for a starting point, or a narrowed down group to test based off recommendations.
I also disagree with the 10 people 10 different answers thing. Im willing to bet the farm (Because I dont have one) That if 10 people try AOKP JB atleast 8 will like it. Because its damn near perfect.
Ive been around here for awhile now and have used this site as a tool to deal with quite a few different devices now and on every device I have been helped or saved time finding the perfect Rom in part due to threads just like this.
Thats the end of my rant and in no way do I mean any disrespect but the only thing wrong with threads like this is too many of you miss the opportunity to make these threads better by providing good solid user feedback.
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By your logic, this thread is still pointless then. You can go to the development section, look at the threads, and find the most popular ROM and flash it then. While you may not like it, why should I waste my time typing a response when someone can find the most popular ROMs fairly easy by just going and looking at pageviews and number of responses for ROMs in the development section? If people want user feedback, go read different ROM threads.
Maybe people don't have time to flash everything, but how long does it take to figure out you don't like a ROM? Like 2-3 hrs at most, maybe a day or two? You could take a day or two, flash 5-6 ROMs and find out what you like best. Something new comes along, make a backup, test the new ROM, see how it compares. Big feature or change comes to a ROM you didn't like before, try it out again. Get some free time and looking for something to do, flash a ROM you haven't used before. While you may think it's inconceivable to test everything, you can sample a decent majority of the stuff out there quite easily.
Personally, I don't want AOKP, though I have never tried it, and I even moved away from CM10. I don't need 90% of the stuff that is added into them, so why would I use them? I'm guessing that most people don't even use half of the stuff available in the ROMs they flash, they just flash and use them more as a "me too" mentality when they could just find a minimal ROM that has only the features they need and use, and with AOSP, it isn't that hard to find something like that. The other reason people hate threads like this is that every new user seems to think that they deserve to have their own thread asking the same question.

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The other reason people hate threads like this is that every new user seems to think that they deserve to have their own thread asking the same question.
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Oh Yeah thats exactly what their thinking. Those selfish bastards How dare they ask a question. How dare they in essence take a current poll of the most popular Rom. How dare they disturb what would otherwise be a very neat and organized way to archive information on Android mods and roms. The OP isnt asking you anyways. Hes asking people who are willing to give a response worth posting. I guess ive become more tolerant of threads like this simply because to the newbie this place can be overwhelming. Also even the experienced can get a little overwhelmed when moving to a different device. Its only natural to ask questions and whether or not they seem like worthwhile questions to you doesnt matter. Leave it up to the mods to decide.
Besides just think about how many newbs didnt post this because there was already one on the first page. Lighten up. I learned alot from this site and all because someone before me was tolerant of my newb status.

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Oh Yeah thats exactly what their thinking. Those selfish bastards How dare they ask a question. How dare they in essence take a current poll of the most popular Rom. How dare they disturb what would otherwise be a very neat and organized way to archive information on Android mods and roms. The OP isnt asking you anyways. Hes asking people who are willing to give a response worth posting. I guess ive become more tolerant of threads like this simply because to the newbie this place can be overwhelming. Also even the experienced can get a little overwhelmed when moving to a different device. Its only natural to ask questions and whether or not they seem like worthwhile questions to you doesnt matter. Leave it up to the mods to decide.
Besides just think about how many newbs didnt post this because there was already one on the first page. Lighten up. I learned alot from this site and all because someone before me was tolerant of my newb status.
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By being tolerant of duplicate threads asking the same question over and over, you promote the same behavior in the future. If one ROM was popular yesterday, three days ago, last week, etc., do you really think the opinion on what is the best will change that much over the short amount of time? Doubtful. In that case, why is it so hard to just find the previous thread and read it? If you don't like the answer, bump it and ask for newer opinions. Maybe, just maybe, you can spend 20 minutes just reading through ROM threads in the development section and do the research yourself too, since users tend to put opinions in the thread of the ROM, and you'll also get a sense of recent issues.
I am very tolerant of anyone, not just new people, that tries to help themselves first by searching and reading first and posting second. I don't think it's too much to ask for someone to do their own research and form their own opinion on what is best for them. If you really want someone else to tell you what is the best, go buy an iPhone or iPad, otherwise, people need to stop being lazy and do the work on their own. Maybe if everyone didn't expect everything to be handed to them all the time and actually worked a little bit, the world would be a better place.

Lol....seems we might need a "what's the best "best Rom thread" thread to read" post....
I'm just saying, I've always wondered why people don't trend to just look at dev section and take note of which thread is most active, which ROM seems to have most posts on its thread lately, and use that as a starting point for "best rom". Since the threads with the most activity is most likely going to be the same users chiming in to say "Try XX ROM it's the best!"
Either way, no matter how many of these threads i see, it never gets old reading all the posts in these threads of people arguing back and forth about why the thread is or isn't necessary. quite entertaining sometimes how much people get their panties in a bunch over this lol.

What the OP and the person who claims they don't have time to flash roms is missing. Is that there is no best ROM for everyone. If you don't have the time and don't want to learn then why did you root? Stock is the best ROM for people who don't like to experiment.
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Ultimate Rom Requirement specification thread

Hello Guys,
This is my first post on XDA forum because I'm new here. I didn't post any threads till now because I didn't want to spam the forum with any unwanted thread or duplicate ones, but I have tried many Roms and I already knew some really cool and helpful guys like Jader, Mechmetal and Bestttt :fingers-crossed:
I used to work as a software engineer, but currently i'm working as a software quality control engineer.
and as I said earlier I have tried many Roms and I also have found lots of bugs and enhancements required.
I wanted to post comments but sadly I'm not allowed to because terms and conditions stated that I can't comment unless I post at least 10 threads :crying:
Anyway, I just wanted to suggest something,
I suggest organizing a thread for something like a requirement sheet for each Rom, speaking about myself I installed lots of roms but I removed it again because it has less customizations , or it doesn't have a built in application that I really want or it has another one I don't like (ex: toggles) while it had been a fast and stable one.
so why don't we find a way to collect the requirements of the users installing JB Roms, and ICS roms so the developers can put their effort in two really cool and helpful roms to have most of our needs:good:
It was just a suggestion
I'm have Xperia Arc [lt15i] with AOKP M1 - Fusion Kernel 3.9

Given how many ROMs there are, along with the fact that everyone's different this is a fruitless task, and why I learned to mod myself. You also can't expect Devs/Themers to cater for every last persons requirements.
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Given how many ROMs there are, along with the fact that everyone's different this is a fruitless task, and why I learned to mod myself. You also can't expect Devs/Themers to cater for every last persons requirements.
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Yes, Sure I get what you mean, it's so exhaustive
I meant something like Bug reporting technique, issues or enhancements with priorities and severity.
Anyways it was just a suggestion
Thanks anyway

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Anyways it was just a suggestion
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Which are always good, but like I've said we're all different and what you may like in a ROM I might not so what you might call a "requirement" I might call a gimmick.
Also, you don't need to start 10 threads to post in Development, you just need to make 10, preferably helpful posts elsewhere.

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Which are always good, but like I've said we're all different and what you may like in a ROM I might not so what you might call a "requirement" I might call a gimmick.
Also, you don't need to start 10 threads to post in Development, you just need to make 10, preferably helpful posts elsewhere.
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I didn't start 10 threads to post in the Development section, I downloaded and tried most of the Roms in the development section,
The number of posts near my name are just replies
plus, my posts in the development sections are not requests , so I could still use it normally since I registered on XDA without the need to comment
Thanks anyway it was just an Idea that I thought about and I just wanted to share.

I have tested many JB Based Roms/ Kernels if you have created modded one where WiFi / WiFi Tethering is Stable and working I would be much obliged of having and Using it on my phone ... The best Rom / Kernel I have tried so far has been LuPus V4 Kernel with CAMPS Rom but unfortunately like all the rest WiFi Tethering has been insignificant and unusable Where as I have to constantly downgrade back to JellySandwich / Ark Knight Combo (ICS) Untill there's been a fix ... So There's are my 2 needs hope that helps with your conquest in making a Universal Rom

Mod ur own rom and rule the world because no developer will ever work to create a rom as per ur convince
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kaushikpasi said:
Mod ur own rom and rule the world because no developer will ever work to create a rom as per ur convince
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Would love to but don't know how too so just enjoying other people's work. Testing and using them all till I find a good which I have done atm which runs extremely well
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xda devs mate already organized the threads.. also we got good moderators... this is a free forum.. you need to earn the recognized developr to gain the reputation.. or other title.. theres no instant here... show off your works and get recognized.
if you can fix some bugs.. you can contribute in developing the roms.. btw welcome...
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[Q] Recommendation a good stable ROM?

Hi,
First of all, I want to start by thanking all the wonderful devs and contributors for keeping this forum an AMAZING place to be a member of. I'm not a very high end user, by no means a flashaholic, but i always come back to this community for knowledge, and consider myself very lucky to have been able have it as a resource for such a long time now.
Anyways, I have been running on the same rom since June and it feels like time for an update. I was just wondering what some of you are currently using, and what you might recommend as a proven rom to be a good long term choice. I don't really need all the most cutting edge features, just looking for something crisp, stable, and with decent battery life.
I had never heard of MF3 before today, but after doing some reading i am pretty sure i want to stay away from it. Not sure if some roms will update me automatically to MF3 but please let me know if that is the case because i am pretty certain i am not on it now, and would prefer not to be.
Thank you as always!

Dillsnik said:
Hi,
First of all, I want to start by thanking all the wonderful devs and contributors for keeping this forum an AMAZING place to be a member of. I'm not a very high end user, by no means a flashaholic, but i always come back to this community for knowledge, and consider myself very lucky to have been able have it as a resource for such a long time now.
Anyways, I have been running on the same rom since June and it feels like time for an update. I was just wondering what some of you are currently using, and what you might recommend as a proven rom to be a good long term choice. I don't really need all the most cutting edge features, just looking for something crisp, stable, and with decent battery life.
I had never heard of MF3 before today, but after doing some reading i am pretty sure i want to stay away from it. Not sure if some roms will update me automatically to MF3 but please let me know if that is the case because i am pretty certain i am not on it now, and would prefer not to be.
Thank you as always!
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Best ROM is always subjective and because of this, these kinds of threads are not allowed. If you want to know the features of each ROM, check the development and original development forums and read the OPs of each ROM thread to see if it includes what you want. Read a little further into the individual threads and you will see if there are any problems or stability issues. You can check the "pinned" threads in the General section for an easy to navigate list of ROMs and their links also. Good luck.

I have asked this question in the past, and while i know it is not a mod favorite topic, i have never had one closed. Everyone involved was respectful of everyone's work, and it never turned into a pissing contest. There must be more than 50 roms out there between the two boards and for someone who is not so in the loop on the day to day, it could take days to do enough research to weed it down to 3-5 rims to pick between, Surely there is no real harm in asking what people are using and which ones they like?

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I have asked this question in the past, and while i know it is not a mod favorite topic, i have never had one closed. Everyone involved was respectful of everyone's work, and it never turned into a pissing contest. There must be more than 50 roms out there between the two boards and for someone who is not so in the loop on the day to day, it could take days to do enough research to weed it down to 3-5 rims to pick between, Surely there is no real harm in asking what people are using and which ones they like?
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I agree that there is no harm in asking, but I also think there is harm in thinking that only putting a few days into research is too much. If it takes weeks, it should still be done. It is up to you to educate yourself about the phone and ROMs no matter how long it takes. However, that is just my view, the mods may feel differently. Good luck.

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I have asked this question in the past, and while i know it is not a mod favorite topic, i have never had one closed. Everyone involved was respectful of everyone's work, and it never turned into a pissing contest. There must be more than 50 roms out there between the two boards and for someone who is not so in the loop on the day to day, it could take days to do enough research to weed it down to 3-5 rims to pick between, Surely there is no real harm in asking what people are using and which ones they like?
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Maybe a different technique would be for you to review the dev threads and see what roms have the most replies. This would give you a starting point of what others are using and if they are having any troubles with those roms.
As scott14719 states, what works for him may not be what best for me and what is best for me may not be good for you.
Even if we did make a suggestion, chances are after you spend some more time reviewing other roms, you will want to try something else.
Make a nandroid, see what looks good to you and test it. If you don't like it, revert to your backup.
Repeat until you find what works best for you.
Good luck!

In your case "Dillsnik" your option dont stop with just the roms you also have the option to flash different kernels.so if you like a rom it can run better/worst on different kernels to.i know its not an answer to your question but it really is a feel type of deal only you can feel for yourself. I took the OTA update to MF3 for a new challenge and its been just that.
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Good ROM/Best ROM/What should I flash threads are forbidden. If you're curious about what works and what doesn't, read the OP of any ROM. If the developer has released it, any and all issues will be listed there, along with the proper instructions of how to flash. Try a few, see what you like. Asking others for recommendations generally leads to all the "fanboys" coming out of the woodwork to flame other devs/ROMs.
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