Seriously, I have no idea, came from an Amaze 4G with just the Android Development. At first I thought it was a Nexus thing, but the optimus G has two as well
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Basically everything in the original section is made from scratch, while in the android dev section its taken from the original section and modified.
It's more like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
So which would you say is better, more well rounded, and less buggy?
Original Development covers the whole spectrum. From barely works to just beautiful. If there are bugs the developer will squash the bugs. Development Forum is likely to have less bugs because they take the already good work and put in their stuffs. But if there is a bug, expect to wait a while for it to be addressed.For a good phone with a lot of awesome developers as the Nexus 4, Original Development is the way to go. If you're just looking for small mods, go to Development.
Thanks for the explanation.
On other question, does anyone know a guide explaining how trebuchet/launcher3 works and how to modified it?
I wanna learn how to code for android and add a few features.
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Keep the thread alive and up guys.
Here are some very nice suggestion!
Hello community.
As you all know and see there two different thread
Original Android Development
Android Development
In this two thread you can find different ROMs.
Therefore it is in some cases difficult to distinguish in which thread a ROM have to be. Some DEVs (@ the Android Development) think they are at the wrong place but the Mods doesnt want to move their thread.
Please make here you choice if you want the old subdivision (only Android Development) oder if you like the new one (Original Android Development and Android Development).
It would be nice if you can leave here your reasons for your choice..
Uh quite nice!?
NeoPhyTe.x360 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16205643&postcount=186
https://twitter.com/#!/VillainROM/status/98306513713635328
I quote it in case of be deleted, VillainROM Tweet 2 Aug. 10.17 am:
@VillainROM
VillainROM
LMFAO mate @Fysi. Can you vote for the 2 forum system at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1198080 ^P
What are the interests of Villain Team, to keep forums separated?
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16295037&postcount=27
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
Nice idea but i dont think that radios should have an extra thread. They can sty with kernels.
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org/non = original/non Samsung or original/non AD?
veyka said:
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
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+1
It is nice not seeing a 'new' rom being posted every two minutes where the only difference is the theme.
Perhaps the section titles could be a little bit clearer, For example: Android Development, and the other section called Themed Roms?
Id like to see even more splitting for ROM+Kernel and Kernel only releases, Its really a PIA sometimes to sort the threads out when your looking for something and it kinda scares off the newbie with a ton load of information and choices presented to him when his just looking for something specific.
Id say have a separate release for ROM+Kernel in 1 subforum and another for kernel only.
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Its another way to increase post count
veyka said:
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
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I think that tagging is very important, I prefer only one section, but with very stricted thread's TAGGING...
And I think that is very important explain the non-cosmetic changes in every ROM.
Regards!
Exactly, strict tagging, good references as to where the rom was based on, and credits where needed.
One thread.
only one Android Development
One forum for development, one for roms and stuff. I have no interest in reading about the majority of the problems people have in installing a ROM, but would be interested in seeing the technical threads (if we still have technical threads here...)
Merge the Development forums again and require [ROM] and a date in the subject.
Require all [ROM]'s built from another 'original' rom's sources to have [DERIVATIVE] or something like to identify them with a link to the source rom in the thread.
Pull [KERNAL]'s out to a second forum, again require a date.
Create a 'Technical' forum and move all the discussion, speculation and stickies that clutter up the other ROM forums into here.
Create new forum for non-android development (like Backtrack or potential Linux releases).
I would suggest using [KERNEL] instead
godutch said:
i would suggest using [kernel] instead
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Even if they decided to split they shouldn't be partial. Why is villain and darky rom in original development? They both look similar to stock to me with some mods.
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Personally, I like the idea of having a forum specifically for new ROMs. I can see the benefit of keeping modifications to ROMs in one forum and the real thing in another.
kirdroid said:
Even if they decided to split they shouldn't be partial. Why is villain and darky rom in original development? They both look similar to stock to me with some mods.
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Not stock kernel for starters on VR and that's the core of it .
jje
I like the idea of keeping photoshop roms separate from true developer roms like CM7.
Seriously, everyone who can use winzip and photoshop can make a rom and publish here, and from the looks of it, they do. It it were up to me, I'd actually not open a separate board, I'd delete them all.
As the creation of two separate dev boards was not motivated by any intention to make the forum easier for the user I'd have to say merge them back please. Seeing how it was motivated by greed and favoritism, indicated by the ROMs placement on one board or the other, I'd say screw this nazi maneuver, get your head out of your asses and realize you're all just tweakers and the ONLY REAL DEVELOPER IS SAMSUNG AND THE CM7 TEAM. So as the two forums are, only stock ROM and CM7 should be in the "real" dev forum. The rest of you take OTHERS work and tweak it (yes make it better etc etc, and we are all grateful for that). But come on you're not some super genius hacker dev here (and YES I appreciate your work and have donated but you are not "original developers"). As stated above this is about a "good ole' boys club", nothing else. Pathetic.
Endoran said:
As the creation of two separate dev boards was not motivated by any intention to make the forum easier for the user I'd have to say merge them back please. Seeing how it was motivated by greed and favoritism, indicated by the ROMs placement on one board or the other, I'd say screw this nazi maneuver, get your head out of your asses and realize you're all just tweakers and the ONLY REAL DEVELOPER IS SAMSUNG AND THE CM7 TEAM. So as the two forums are, only stock ROM and CM7 should be in the "real" dev forum. The rest of you take OTHERS work and tweak it (yes make it better etc etc, and we are all grateful for that). But come on you're not some super genius hacker dev here (and YES I appreciate your work and have donated but you are not "original developers"). As stated above this is about a "good ole' boys club", nothing else. Pathetic.
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+1 nothing to add
+1... So many stock Samsung roms are still in original development forum. All this is nothing but favoritism.
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Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Wrong section you should post in the question/answers section.
Anyway to answer your question Qualcomm is pretty much open with their processors and I don't believe there would be any problems building kernels and porting roms.
This is going to be locked / moved.
Nexus devices get CM10 very fast as you only need too add Cyanogenmod source merges and compile it to the Nexus 4 AOSP source and its good to go.
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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It could of gone in either but I think it best suits the q&a section because you are specifically asking a question and you want an answer in return.
Wrong section, ib4tl
Edit: Also, just to put in something useful, this phone WILL be improved, if there are ANY software issues. This is the phone that will have the most dev support in years, with it's low price. In addition, CM isn't "ported", per say, it is built from source.
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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I asked a mod to move it.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Since its a nexus device, the source tree is already in aosp so custom ROMs like cm10, aokp, etc will appear almost instantly. No need to do any major hacks get stuff fully working like other phones.. Same with kernels, the source will be available immediately, so there's no waiting for the new kernel sources (*COUGH COUGH * HTC)
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I think molesarecoming is planning to bring ParanoidAndroid over to the Nexus 4
I'm not sure why the decision was made to start dividing up the Android Development Forums into regular and "Original" versions but I personally feel like it's pointless and confusing, especially for people who have been using this site for several years.
At the very least they should be named more appropriately, the word original makes it sound like you're talking about modified stock ROMs etc..., i.e. what was originally on the device.
The entire point of an open source community is that different people can work on different things. I guarantee you that some of the so called "unoriginal" ROMs out there had just as much work and time go into them as anyone else's. So this is basically a just a slap in the face to anyone who is new to this type of development, it certainly would not encourage anyone to continue contributing and learning.
The bottom line is that the only "Original" Android ROMs come from here: http://source.android.com , even Cyanogen MOD is still 90% someone else's code/work. Essentially the whole thing amounts to elitist segregation, aside from Linus Torvald there isn't a person alive today that has any right to thumb their nose at another open source developers efforts simply because they didn't think they were worthy of being recognized.
Cool story bro
Well IMO I think it makes sense that its called original because its all based on aosp which is the original Android
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Well IMO I think it makes sense that its called original because its all based on aosp which is the original Android
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Actually it has nothing to do with that, there are many modified stock ROMs in the original forums. Unless of course you're referring to those as well in which case EVERYTHING is based on the AOSP. In either case I hope you voted for option two
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Cool story bro
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Why didn't you vote?
Why would I?
Total waste of a thread...it will accomplish nothing and is just a rant from you
No one else has a problem with this, including people like myself who's work doesn't go in the original section
Plus this has been covered so many timez the Admins are bored hearing about it
Find something else to concentrate on, this is highly irrelevant
I agree with the OP.
Having two forums for the development of Android for one device makes no sense.
At the very least, a sticky at the top of every "original" forum needs to interpret why the forum is different to the standard development forum.
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It seems that every time I've come here in the last few months everything is different. I understand wanting to 'spice it up' or 'make it organized'...but XDA was pretty much unchanged for a very long time, and now all these changes are more frustrating than helpful. In the end, I guess it doesn't make that big of a difference.
Let it be said that the first time I read 'original android development'...I thought of apps that were developed 100% by a dev...and NOT based on 'original android'.
I'm going to lock this up and explain the differences of development and original development.
Plain development: those are ROMs that are based off stock based ROMs or ROMs like cm with some apps or minor tweaks tossed in. Nothing that is brand new or has revolutionary features in. Team venom ViperS sense ROM is normal development if that ROM is based on a stock based sense ROM. Now if they brought that rom to a Samsung devices or non HTC phine, then its original.
Original development: any ROM that is compiled from source and has revolutionary features in it. Examples cyanogenmod, AOKP,PAC man, Paranoid Android, BAKED,Slim Bean etc. Those are all examples of original development. If someone downloads or compiles a source based ROM. Then adds their tweaks apps etc,that would be normal development. Basically original development is cutting edge stuff.
This thread is set to discuss developers on xda that plan to buy and/or develop for the HTC One. Does any developer plan on kernel, ROM, AOSP, CM10.1, etc... and so on plan on developing for this device? Please comment below!
The goal of this thread is to try and understand which developers will develop for which model of the HTC One (if the MID difference is big enough to split development communities). Believe it or not, a lot of people on XDA heavily consider how well a device's development community will be before purchasing. After all, we are all here to mod our phones. We can hopefully expect great developers to come to this device once it is released in the US in the next weeks. Hopefully we can get a handle on what development will look like!
This OP will be updated, if this thread takes off, showing a list of confirmed developers and what model they plan on getting.
Current confirmed
Torxx - Sense
Mike1986 - Sense
Need AOSP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38343773
Already one of these, it died
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Im hoping we get faux for kernel duty!
Hi,
I've had a HTC Incredible S and just got a Google Nexus 4. This phone looks awesome already. I was wondering, what's the difference between 'Android Dev' and 'Original Android Dev'?
Thanks.
Incredible2011 said:
Hi,
I've had a HTC Incredible S and just got a Google Nexus 4. This phone looks awesome already. I was wondering, what's the difference between 'Android Dev' and 'Original Android Dev'?
Thanks.
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Welcome to the Nexus 4 section, @Incredible2011.
I have a little request in the beginning. Kindly, take your future questions to Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting.
Coming over to your query, here is the answer.
Android Development is a sub-section which comprises of ROMs/Kernels/Mods and tweaks which are not self-compiled or developed, or are usage of some other developer's work. It mostly contains Stock modified/tweaked ROM, Kernels and enormous minimal tweaks.
While, Original Development is a sub-section area where all the actual ROM/Kernel/Mod development goes. Everything that is worked out by the developer himself shall be posted there. You will find all the source compiled ROM/Kernels like CyanogenMod, ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, Franco's Kernel etc in this section.
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Incredible2011 said:
Hi,
I've had a HTC Incredible S and just got a Google Nexus 4. This phone looks awesome already. I was wondering, what's the difference between 'Android Dev' and 'Original Android Dev'?
Thanks.
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Welcome buddy you won't regret swapping....stick with us mate, we'll show you the way
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Hi, I'm Memento and I am delighted to participate in this great community recognized internationally
Greetings from Spain :laugh:
Nexus 4 community is getting bigger each day
Its good there are so many new members, just wished people would read and search more themselves instead of asking/posting even the most basic things. Read the stickies and the OP`s of the kernel/rom you want to flash. None the less welcome you all
Thanks all for clearing that up and for the warm welcome. I hope to be helpful in any way I can and hope to learn from you all!