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Just want to share my experience of 'best' charging method that can maximize the battery life of my Nexus one.
Firstly, let me introduce my equip:
- Machine: Nexus one
- Rom: FRF91 Stock, Deodexed, rooted, busybox... (Geo411m)
- Kernel: intersectRaven's 2.6.35_AVS-925mV_CFS_20100802_1056.zip
- Control: SetCPU, Interactive: 245-960Mhz when on, and 245-245 when screen off
The key method of obtaining max. battery life is the 'GOLDEN' time from 100% drop down to 99%. Once the battery shows dropping from 100 to 99%, the dropping speed is quite stably fast onwards
So, how to retain 100% longer before dropping to 99%? Below are the steps that really work for me:
1) Charge the phone to green light, some where between 90% and 100% (say: 95%)
2) Disconnect USB charging cable
3) Turn off the phone
4) Connect USB charging cable and charge the phone, it should show orange light
5) Set a timer, remember to *ONLY charge the phone for around 20-25mins*
6) The concept is NOT to charge the phone until you get green light. In order words, you need to charge the phone from 95% for 20-25mins where the light is kept ORANGE with the phone turned off!!!
7) After 20-25mins, disconnect USB cable and power on your nexus phone
8) You are done and the battery should last longer before dropping to 99%
9) Time in step (5) depends, you need to trial-&-error
For my experience, I normally charge the phone before I sleep and disconnect the charger. In the morning when I get up, it usually shows around 95% of battery. Then, I power off the phone and charge it. And then I take breakfast, bla bla bla ~ and after around 20mins, disconnect the charger and go to work. The battery can retain 100% for around 30mins of continuous web browsing, facebooking... and when I reach my office, sometimes, the battery still shows 100% !!!
So, above is my experience of how to maximize the 100% retaining time.
Please feel free to try and share with us whether it really works for you
Great advice.
Personally, I can't really be bothered with going out of my way to be overly concerned about battery life. I don't play games on my phone -- that will change when Angry Birds is released for Android -- nor do I watch movies, and I don't really do too much web browsing. Sometimes I listen to music, but not often.
I can go 12-14 hours of normal use (mostly Twitter and text messaging) and that will put me around 45-50%. I'm never somewhere that I can't charge the phone if I need to; USB at work, regular charge at home, and a charger in the car.
All of these tips and tricks for extending battery life are neat, but why bother?
^ Well looking at your usage, and the plenty charging points, of course you dont care. However, some ppl browse a lot, play games, so every last inch of battery life means something.
I just keep spare batteries in my pockets =D
I will try your golden tips.. then I will write my thoughts.
I thank you for sharing.
Screwing up the battery meter does not get you more battery life, period, and I suspect your shenanigans here is doing that. The battery has a set capacity, it's not going to charge more than that.
The Nexus One and a lot of other modern phones with modern batteries DO NOT trickle charge, they charge to 100% and STOP charging. When the phone drops to a certain limit, it charges more. Repeat as long as it's on the charger. This is why you might see it "drop a few percent" when you pull the charger.
Yea this sounds like a huge placebo effect.
Well I just did this, been off charger for over an hour.. still 100% after over an hour and two reboots.
At 1378mAh right now, didn't get a reading straight after first reboot unfortunately.
I'm also trialing autorun killer. Disabled a free services I don't use.. seemingly increased startup time.
heya,
Don't you mean decreased startup time?
Cheers,
Victor
Yeah, that's what I mean.
victorhooi said:
heya,
Don't you mean decreased startup time?
Cheers,
Victor
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Goonish said:
Well I just did this, been off charger for over an hour.. still 100% after over an hour and two reboots.
At 1378mAh right now, didn't get a reading straight after first reboot unfortunately.
I'm also trialing autorun killer. Disabled a free services I don't use.. seemingly increased startup time.
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How do you figure out your mAh level? Spare parts only shows me mV.
Thanks
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This is placebo. In the OP you even say after it finally drops to 99% it drops fast after that. It's because the phone wasn't at 100% all that time. It was giving you a false reading from messing with the charging pattern.
The best way I've found to charge the phone is to delete the battery stats, turn the phone off, and charge it until it's green. I get a great day of battery life with the phone that way.
Ryjabo said:
Great advice.
Personally, I can't really be bothered with going out of my way to be overly concerned about battery life. I don't play games on my phone -- that will change when Angry Birds is released for Android -- nor do I watch movies, and I don't really do too much web browsing. Sometimes I listen to music, but not often. I can go 12-14 hours of normal use (mostly Twitter and text messaging) and that will put me around 45-50%. I'm never somewhere that I can't charge the phone if I need to; USB at work, regular charge at home, and a charger in the car. All of these tips and tricks for extending battery life are neat, but why bother?
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Totally agree...I just charge when & where necessary and never worry about it! Don't have the time and it seems to last long enough for me to work & play
I had already discovered this and was looking for a fool proof way but I guess you beat me to it. Happens when you traveling alot. For me, I have gotten over 1500mAh more than once..some times 100% would last me half a day too. So it's worth it, my question is whether or not this is bad for your battery? or long term battery life.
ram130 said:
I had already discovered this and was looking for a fool proof way but I guess you beat me to it. Happens when you traveling alot. For me, I have gotten over 1500mAh more than once..some times 100% would last me half a day too. So it's worth it, my question is whether or not this is bad for your battery? or long term battery life.
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I'm fairly sure that the Milliampere-hour (mAh) is the capacity of the battery (the amount of energy it will store). How can you get "over 1500mAh" on a 1400 mAh battery? None of you are making any sense what so ever. You can't get more energy out of a battery by charging it a specific way. If I gave you a bucket that held 10lbs of sand and you filled it with 8lbs of sand and waited a few minutes then started filling the rest slowly, it wont hold more sand. This is nothing more than a placebo effect. The only way to get more time from a battery is to reduce the amount of consumption. The only way to do that is to use your phone less or make your hardware use the battery less such as undervolting your CPU. I tried for the longest time to explain to people that underclocking your CPU does absolutely nothing. If you're still running at the same voltage you're still consuming the same amount of power.
Stop messing around with the battery and the battery stats.
Could someone please use the phone until it goes off in the evening? What percentage is shown on the batteryicon when it goes off? 20% or what?
xPatriicK said:
Stop messing around with the battery and the battery stats.
Could someone please use the phone until it goes off in the evening? What percentage is shown on the batteryicon when it goes off? 20% or what?
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Actually it's not a good idea to fully discharge the phone often.
Source: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/
dumbestcrayon said:
Actually it's not a good idea to fully discharge the phone often.
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I know but once isnt often.
Btw we have some great battery threads here.. somewhere.. general or accessories forums..
xPatriicK said:
I know but once isnt often.
Btw we have some great battery threads here.. somewhere.. general or accessories forums..
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Yeah, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
I have been using ultimate juice defender and battery life has doubled with usual usage. Maybe this can be considered as an alternative to longer battery life
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Anyone else notice this?? I've run both the first and the second 2.2 leaked Rom, and both exhibit this same issue. Okay first a little info: stock battery, stock HTC wall charger and stock use cable. I don't charge off a use port on a comp, always the wall charger.
Now, on stock 2.1, I could run the battery all the way down, connect the charger, and be back to full charge in max 1.5 hours. On 2.2, it takes more than twice that long. So I went thru the whole downgrade process (pain!) to get back to stock 2.1, ran that for a day and confirmed, charging on the wall charger gets about 1% a minute. Went back to 2.0 radio and second leaked 2.2 ota, and yeah, back to taking 2-3 mins to get a percent, about 3.5-4 hours to full charge.
So..... what gives? Anyone else noticing this? Can it be fixed via patch or something? Is it the radio, the new kernel, what?
its probably the new radio. i dont know how the radio directly affects battery life tho. it is not the kernel, because i am running cm6 and the problems have persisted on cm6 too. i have been experienceing these problems too
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Radio
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i dont know how the radio directly affects battery life tho
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The radio could be the #2 drain on a battery (short of 100% on screen) ... if the radio is not getting the signal it wants, it hunts and hunts, and 1x draws incredible power from the battery vs 3G.
The buggy radio and buggy beta could easily be causing you trouble in your area, if they just don't play right with the signal you are getting. Hopefully when the non-beta radio comes out, things will change.
Mind you, my battery life seems fine, no worse than stock anyways. It's just the charging time that has gotten dramatically worse.
Same..there's no reason my phone should be charging for close to 4 to 5 hours I don't know what's up with that
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Same..there's no reason my phone should be charging for close to 4 to 5 hours I don't know what's up with that
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I may be all wet...but there is a battery file in your phone that I think gets wiped when you install a new ROM.
I do all of my charging at night, so I don't know how long it takes after wiping and installing ROMs. I do remember it taking about three hours to charge the battery the very first time I plugged it in.
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I may be all wet...but there is a battery file in your phone that I think gets wiped when you install a new ROM.
I do all of my charging at night, so I don't know how long it takes after wiping and installing ROMs. I do remember it taking about three hours to charge the battery the very first time I plugged it in.
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Doesn't explain why after I wiped and went back to 100% stock my charge time went back to taking no more than 90 mins...
Nah I flashed roms all the time on my Droid never took this long to charge. Even on my inc cyanogen 6 never took that long its definitely something about 2.2 roms or sky raider.
I have this problem on mine and made a thread on androidforums. After watching a few things I came to the conclusion its the cpu speed. It never throttles down below about 500-600 mhz. Open setCPU and don't touch anything. You'll see it won't drop to the 200s like its supposed to.
Someone came up with a work around by using setcpu. Create a profile for when the screen is off so that the max is 245 mhz. You'll find that your charge times will be a lot better.
Even though this works I would like to know why the phone is not throttling down at idle like its supposed to. Someone with more knowledge might have the answer.
I had noticed that and posted a thread about it awhile back. I have a hard time believing that is the sole reason for tripping charge times though
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I have this problem on mine and made a thread on androidforums. After watching a few things I came to the conclusion its the cpu speed. It never throttles down below about 500-600 mhz. Open setCPU and don't touch anything. You'll see it won't drop to the 200s like its supposed to.
Someone came up with a work around by using setcpu. Create a profile for when the screen is off so that the max is 245 mhz. You'll find that your charge times will be a lot better.
Even though this works I would like to know why the phone is not throttling down at idle like its supposed to. Someone with more knowledge might have the answer.
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all the explanations posted so far would be a cause of battery DRAIN issues, which most people claim to see better overall battery life since jumping on 2.2 (myself included). none of these could explain why charge times would take twice as long. i myself have had better battery life on 2.2, but charge times are definitely in the 3-4 hour range as opposed to the 1.5 hours it was before. BUT, one theory is htc might have lowered the charge input from what it was before, meaning a slower charge time but preserving battery health and possibly increasing battery life. just a guess, chemistry majors correct me if im wrong lol.
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all the explanations posted so far would be a cause of battery DRAIN issues, which most people claim to see better overall battery life since jumping on 2.2 (myself included). none of these could explain why charge times would take twice as long.
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If the phone isnt underclocking even when the screen is off, it would be using more power even while charging, which would explain the long charge times.
Proof of concept would be, if you try and charge while using bluetooth and gps in the car you may not lose charge, but it will not charge as quickly as if you are not using those things.
if the CPU use is high then the battery would not charge as quickly.
I'm still not so certain that the setcpu profle has solved my problem, still havent been conscious of it enough to be sure.
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all the explanations posted so far would be a cause of battery DRAIN issues, which most people claim to see better overall battery life since jumping on 2.2 (myself included). none of these could explain why charge times would take twice as long. i myself have had better battery life on 2.2, but charge times are definitely in the 3-4 hour range as opposed to the 1.5 hours it was before. BUT, one theory is htc might have lowered the charge input from what it was before, meaning a slower charge time but preserving battery health and possibly increasing battery life. just a guess, chemistry majors correct me if im wrong lol.
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Common sense would tell you that if something is draining the battery, charge times would be higher...
Gbenj. Its definitely not a full fix for it since it requires the screen to be off but it has definitely cut down on my charge times. Its still no where near what it was for 2.1 but atleast I dont have to wait 4 hours for 10%.
gbenj said:
If the phone isnt underclocking even when the screen is off, it would be using more power even while charging, which would explain the long charge times.
Proof of concept would be, if you try and charge while using bluetooth and gps in the car you may not lose charge, but it will not charge as quickly as if you are not using those things.
if the CPU use is high then the battery would not charge as quickly.
I'm still not so certain that the setcpu profle has solved my problem, still havent been conscious of it enough to be sure.
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Common sense would tell you that if something is draining the battery, charge times would be higher...
Gbenj. Its definitely not a full fix for it since it requires the screen to be off but it has definitely cut down on my charge times. Its still no where near what it was for 2.1 but atleast I dont have to wait 4 hours for 10%.
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All understood, BUT, yesterday when using gps nav for a few hours and on the car charger, i was actually still LOSING battery. nothing else was on (bluetooth or wifi) no calls, no texts or anything. 2.1, i still gained charge while using gps on the car charger as well as having an overclocked kernel. so its definitely not a cpu issue considering peak processor speed has not been tampered with.
Just a thought but perhaps the FROYO Rom that you flashed has a fix in it for the problem with charging. In otherwords perhaps it is actually charging the whole battery. I haven't paid any attention to mine as to whether it is taking longer. I usually just charge while I sleep and then while I am in the car and sometimes at my desk if I plan to plug in for something I will just leave it plugged so I get more use of higher drain features when I go home. I noticed though that if you bump charge as recommended, (pre-update) I only did it once and saw little to no improvement, it took for ever. After I charged it to green, I turned it off and charged it to green, unplugged it plugged it back charged to green, and repeated until it was green when I first plugged in. Now it seems to me that the problem is a software/system issue so it would be plausible that a software solution could be developed. I haven't tried since I updated and the ROM I am currently using gives me the same battery life I had before but now I can leave GPS on all the time something I couldn't even think about with Stock everything.
So I may be wrong but it may be that it is taking longer to charge because it is actually charging the chunk of battery that it hadn't been charging before. Just a thought and since I am pretty sure I don't have the same ROM you have I won't venture to test and post results but perhaps you could.
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Just a thought but perhaps the FROYO Rom that you flashed has a fix in it for the problem with charging. In otherwords perhaps it is actually charging the whole battery. I haven't paid any attention to mine as to whether it is taking longer. I usually just charge while I sleep and then while I am in the car and sometimes at my desk if I plan to plug in for something I will just leave it plugged so I get more use of higher drain features when I go home. I noticed though that if you bump charge as recommended, (pre-update) I only did it once and saw little to no improvement, it took for ever. After I charged it to green, I turned it off and charged it to green, unplugged it plugged it back charged to green, and repeated until it was green when I first plugged in. Now it seems to me that the problem is a software/system issue so it would be plausible that a software solution could be developed. I haven't tried since I updated and the ROM I am currently using gives me the same battery life I had before but now I can leave GPS on all the time something I couldn't even think about with Stock everything.
So I may be wrong but it may be that it is taking longer to charge because it is actually charging the chunk of battery that it hadn't been charging before. Just a thought and since I am pretty sure I don't have the same ROM you have I won't venture to test and post results but perhaps you could.
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bump charging is still required by anyone on 2.2 so its not charging any more of the battery than what it used to, just a lot slower.
Agreed, it doesn't make bump charging any less required for "full" charge, also, this theory would mean we'd be getting significantly better battery life.... I most definitely was not.
It's possible they reduced the charger output to the battery to increase battery life/reduce heat while charging.
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It's possible they reduced the charger output to the battery to increase battery life/reduce heat while charging.
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if by battery life you mean overall battery health over time then yes, that is what i believe as well. also, these leaked froyo roms are all developmental, not final releases. im guessing that they may have tried a fix for battery issues but it didnt work out right in these roms so im hoping in the final release it will be truly fixed.
has anyone noticed that the battery stops charging after a while? it almost seems like the system is stopping the charge because its running for so long. anyone seen anything like this?
I keep hearing some people claim how "great" their Vibrant's battery is. I am on my third Vibrant and battery life has been terrible on all of them. Just recently I noticed ~16% of my battery got drained for ~15 minute voice call. (The attached screenshot shows voice call using 27% but at that time my battery was at around 39%, which means the 15 mins took about ~16% total battery.) I just passed my 14-days buyer's remorse, so exchanging it (unless I want a "like new" one) or returning it are not an option. Any suggestions on how to improve battery life? I already keep the brightness on the screen to the lowest it gets.
Thanks!
Hmm that defintely is not normal. I would check with the store in getting another replacement. 15% drain on 15 min call is not normal for any phone.
There is a bug where if you power down the phone while it's charging, then the reported battery % is higher than actual. Perhaps the seemingly fast drain is a result of the reported value "catching up" to the actual level.
Edit: So I figured out where you're getting your numbers .
Still doesn't seem right though, did you notice the battery percentage before the call by any chance?
Chalup said:
There is a bug where if you power down the phone while it's charging, then the reported battery % is higher than actual. Perhaps the seemingly fast drain is a result of the reported value "catching up" to the actual level.
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My rooted G1 had that same bug. Start charging it, power it down, power up and from completely dead it would show around. 24% in a couple minutes of charging. This phone I've noticed does it as well as newer blackberry's. Bizarre...
What I would suggest is draining the battery till it dies, charge it back up fully and see if you can have it happen again. Could've been a fluke.
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DarkAgent said:
I keep hearing some people claim how "great" their Vibrant's battery is. I am on my third Vibrant and battery life has been terrible on all of them. Just recently I noticed ~16% of my battery got drained for ~15 minute voice call. (The attached screenshot shows voice call using 27% but at that time my battery was at around 39%, which means the 15 mins took about ~16% total battery.) I just passed my 14-days buyer's remorse, so exchanging it (unless I want a "like new" one) or returning it are not an option. Any suggestions on how to improve battery life? I already keep the brightness on the screen to the lowest it gets.
Thanks!
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looks like a bad battery reading to me.
Complete charge, complete discharge, and complete charge should reset it.
Yeah the percentages do need to be calibrated and sometimes they are off a bit, say 100%-90% actually often goes faster than 80%-70%.
The batteries are also partly responsible since discharge Ah is not a completely linear relationship with voltage (which is why the percentages need calibration).
I would say unless you have a rogue application on your phone eating battery it is more likely just how it is being reported.
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Yeah the percentages do need to be calibrated and sometimes they are off a bit, say 100%-90% actually often goes faster than 80%-70%.
The batteries are also partly responsible since discharge Ah is not a completely linear relationship with voltage (which is why the percentages need calibration).
I would say unless you have a rogue application on your phone eating battery it is more likely just how it is being reported.
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So if battery A has x% greater mAh than battery B it does not mean A has x% greater battery life?
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So if battery A has x% greater mAh than battery B it does not mean A has x% greater battery life?
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Yes, if the phones are identical.
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I'm having same issue. Battery life on my Vibrant is just horrible. I can barely go half a day until it's fully discharged and that's about 30 min talk time an hr maybe browsing apps and internet and a little WIFI/BT. Just for example I charged it after complete discharge and took it out at 11.30 pm last night, drove my brother to the airport and back around 1.30 and while it was sitting in the car and a few calls I made, it already went down to 74%, I purposely left it without charge till morning.... at 8am it was showing 47%... WTF!!
I have rooted the phone with update.zip, I have installed ATK and have Crazy settings on it.... one thing I don't get is that after it kills apps, they keep coming back every few seconds. Also brightness is at the lowest and no live wallpaper...
UltimateJuice by the way is showing 1.58 times, which is BS... right now it's 10.30AM and its down to 38%....
Any help would be appreciated!
Try not using atk
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Try not using atk
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This
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http://phandroid.com/2010/08/25/dro...roid-phone-battery-life-comparisons/#comments
Vibrant's battery life does suck, even with the supposedly power efficient processor and super amoled!!!!!!
Samsung has some more work to do. Hopefully, the froyo update can alleviate the problem!!!
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I have rooted the phone with update.zip, I have installed ATK and have Crazy settings on it.... one thing I don't get is that after it kills apps, they keep coming back every few seconds. Also brightness is at the lowest and no live wallpaper...
UltimateJuice by the way is showing 1.58 times, which is BS... right now it's 10.30AM and its down to 38%....
Any help would be appreciated!
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Read this first.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
Anytime the screen is on its eating battery. We have the best screen in the market. If you really want a conservative wallpaper use something almost all black or solid black. When a AMOLED screen is displaying black the LEDs are off.
For those "apps that keep showing up" those are due services that are running in the background. If you don't use the app often set the notifications to a lower time or set it to update manually.
If you've rooted there is a thread on "how to keep your phone quick and snappy" read it. Also fix your permissions through recovery. Rogue apps apps can drain battery.
after 3hrs of on & off hard using (minus extra long phone calls >45mins) I can pull 12-16 hours easily on one charge.
Look into things like eugenes vibrant 6 & JACs UV(under volted) kernel.
GL and car chargers are awesome!
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Battery life on my Vibrant has been superb. You might need to change settings or something. This screen shot was for today with lots of calls and market shopping and I even watched a movie. I do not use a killer, yes I'm rooted with lots of tweaks to my notification bar. I'm using the spiritbomb lwp and its been great.
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Unfortunately, the battery life on the Vibrant just sucks, compared to the iPhone.
I came to a Galaxy S and a Vibrant form the iPhone 3Gs.
With the same style of usage, the iPhone lasts at least 40% longer than the Galaxy/Vibrant.
I like the phone a lot, but am really unhappy to have to constantly think about how I use it, to avoid it dying on me before the end of the day.
Basically, with moderate use, it will last for a day, but if I go out after work and do a little texting or take a few pictures, it will die before I get home.
12-14 hours is really not good, since with my old iPhone I used to be able to last almost two full days without recharging.
Plus, the blocking of the camera at 15% of battery life is a truly idiotic decision by Samsung.
Thanks for your feedback! I am newbie in the Android world, as I come from the Apple planet. It just takes time to get used to it.
As for XDA App, where can I get it?
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Battery life on my Vibrant has been superb. You might need to change settings or something. This screen shot was for today with lots of calls and market shopping and I even watched a movie. I do not use a killer, yes I'm rooted with lots of tweaks to my notification bar. I'm using the spiritbomb lwp and its been great.
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I am looking into the mod for the notification bar, specifically the battery. I have seen a circle battery with percentage, where do I get one?
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Search XDA for all ur app and theme needs, as for the Iphone being better on battery. I dont doubt its better, but from my experience and many family and friends showing me there iphones they are always tethered to a power source. Theres no better test than driving 300+ miles a day every day and coming back to the hotel and seeing my phone tell me i have been using it for 20+ hours and i still have 25% charge. I am constantly using my phone for calls, text, movies and such. Without my phone my wife would probably divorce me lol The amount of travel i do via plane, train and automobile is all the real world facts i need. Vibrant is a keeper.
Yes it sucks.
And under 15% it's not allowing me taking pictures!
Come on, I know I am under 15%, but I still want to take 1 or 2 pic!!
i did not see a topic about VERY slow charging and hot phone issue
first of all, typically for 10% it takes me 3 hours to fully charge my GS2, and it is warm but not hot
randomly it seems to get a bug that makes the phone charge VERY slow like 15% an hour or total 6 hours, and at the same time the phone is much hotter than normal charging
i had Android Assistant running and here is what is normal idle system spec:
CPU
system 2%
user 5%
idle 93%
ram
used 329MB
free 507MB
battery temp 97F
when the bug occurs i go to the stock task manager, close all apps, and clear ram memory, and here are the system specs after:
CPU
system 20%
user 40%
idle 40%
ram
used 460MB
free 377MB
battery temp 114F
i have not been able to isolate the process/app/bug anyone else?
I use Watchover (freely available on the market), which can give you a list of processes and the percentage of CPU they use. You can then identify the processes that eat the most of your CPU.
It's not a bug but a feature
The phone takes about 3 hours to charge when no apps are running.
More, if apps are running and even more if you are using the phone.
Totally normal for this type of phone/battery.
So if you want it to charge as quickly as possible make sure as little as possible is taking power....
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It's not a bug but a feature
The phone takes about 3 hours to charge when no apps are running.
More, if apps are running and even more if you are using the phone.
Totally normal for this type of phone/battery.
So if you want it to charge as quickly as possible make sure as little as possible is taking power....
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but i stop all APPs in task manager and even clear my ram cache, so technically it should be like idle with nothing running
and yet it shows 60% CPU usage and 100MB or ram used somewhere, no idea where
colonels said:
but i stop all APPs in task manager and even clear my ram cache, so technically it should be like idle with nothing running
and yet it shows 60% CPU usage and 100MB or ram used somewhere, no idea where
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OS Monitor from market to check what is eating the cpu.
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Doesn't clicking on battery usage show the same thing.
Do the other apps do something different.
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Doesn't clicking on battery usage show the same thing.
Do the other apps do something different.
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this shows total usage between 100% charges of battery, so what might be the highest CPU % usage might not be what is currently stuck in a feedback loop
i want to see what process or app is "stuck" in a loop or on cycle that is causing the slow charging and hot phone bug
when i stop all apps in task manager and clear ram (which usually kills 19 processes in the background) i should be at 90%+ idle
i need an app that can show me a snapshot of what is running on demand and doesn't show what was running before but was stopped
What does the battery usage screen tell you? After trying to charge, unplug the phone and leave it for 30 minutes. Then open up the battery usage page and check which item is consuming battery power.
my phone was getting hot when i was using custom kernel and had overclocked
check your kernel first
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i want to see what process or app is "stuck" in a loop or on cycle that is causing the slow charging and hot phone bug
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OS Monitor will tell you in real time which process is using up CPU cycles. However, battery usage shows you which app/process is using up the battery, which is what is happening to your phone. It is using up battery charge as fast as the charger is able to charge it. So check out which app has the highest percentage battery usage. If it is Android OS, then you will have to use OS monitor to dig deeper to pin point which Android OS process (there are many) is causing this.
so i identified the problem!
it is HANDCENT SMS (MEDIUM) WIDGET even though i do not have that widget loaded on any of my home screens
this gets somehow bugged and starts to use 30-40% CPU real time, and even after i force-close the process it comes right back in a few seconds
i have uninstalled HANDCENT SMS and my idle is back to 90%
i bet if you have the SLOW CHARGING HOT PHONE bug it is because of this widely popular SMS app, i am going to try GO SMS instead
Hi. I searched the forum for this problem. Just got an GSII three days ago. Experienced this a problem few minutes ago. Started charging my phone when I got home. It was at 36% at 46deg c. Then I talked to my friend on the phone. Checked back 30 mins later and it was at 33% at 53 deg c. It was the hottest the phone was ever. I panicked and unplugged it and shut the phone down. Turned it on 5 mins later and I just plugged it now.
Is my unit faulty?
Log when I plugged my phone into the charger until it reached 53 deg c:
2011/08/22|21:57:26|-678mA|35%|3810mV|41.0ºC|2|2
(must be when I plugged)
2011/08/22|22:02:26|58mA|36%|3762mV|46.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|22:07:26|-20mA|35%|3757mV|48.0ºC|0|1
2011/08/22|22:12:26|-165mA|35%|3703mV|50.0ºC|0|1
2011/08/22|22:17:26|-165mA|35%|3752mV|53.0ºC|0|1
2011/08/22|22:22:26|-165mA|35%|3752mV|53.0ºC|0|1
2011/08/22|22:27:26|-55mA|34%|3753mV|53.0ºC|0|1
2011/08/22|22:32:26|-55mA|34%|3768mV|53.0ºC|0|1
(unplugged, I shut phone down)
(booted up phone when it cooled and plugged charger again)
2011/08/22|22:46:18|-1mA|33%|3682mV|34.0ºC|1|0
2011/08/22|22:47:07|-1mA|33%|3726mV|34.0ºC|1|0
2011/08/22|22:52:07|-1mA|33%|3891mV|42.0ºC|2|2
2011/08/22|22:55:07|372mA|35%|3882mV|44.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:00:07|758mA|37%|3897mV|44.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:05:07|494mA|40%|3888mV|46.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:10:07|428mA|42%|3893mV|46.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:13:07|439mA|42%|3842mV|46.0ºC|1|1
2011/08/22|23:18:07|610mA|45%|3925mV|46.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:21:07|824mA|46%|3893mV|46.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:26:07|428mA|48%|3923mV|46.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:31:07|328mA|50%|3908mV|46.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:36:07|627mA|53%|3954mV|46.0ºC|2|1
2011/08/22|23:41:07|494mA|55%|3946mV|46.0ºC|2|1
EDIT: It's back to charging normally now. Temp at a stable 46deg c.
When I didn't rooted my phone, I also was experiencing overheating. Once I´ve rooted the phone and undervolted the phone and used kernel from Solarflare. Since then my phone didn´t overheat.
I wish we had a cpu temp reading as well as the battery temp one, I suppose the cpu usage will have to do, I think most overheating and slow charging is caused by power being used my the cpu as you charge the battery, some fault apps in conjunction with the heat of the battery produces when charging, really starts to heat things up.
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I wish we had a cpu temp reading as well as the battery temp one, I suppose the cpu usage will have to do, I think most overheating and slow charging is caused by power being used my the cpu as you charge the battery, some fault apps in conjunction with the heat of the battery produces when charging, really starts to heat things up.
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I was just going to point this out as well. The same is true for a laptop. Recharging the laptop with the laptop power off will still generate some heat near the battery, but the moment you turn it on and start checking email, watching youtube, and doing all kinds of other stuff, core temps are going to be higher than usual as the battery charging heat adds on to it. So, I wouldn't be overly concerned with the overheating part just as long as it on a open surface like your desk and not wrapped up in a blanket on your bed.
With regards to the slow charging, that will directly be related to how much you use the phone, number of currently running apps, and number of background apps running (syncing, etc). I strongly suggest putting the display brightness level to lowest setting when at home while charging since this is the single largest consumer (50%) of battery power compared to anything else for me. If you do find that there are some less responsive apps stealing cpu cycles when it shouldn't, then I would consider uninstalling it altogether as it probably is also reducing your battery life during the day.
Thanks for the replies. I know the SII has a tendency to work up some heat and I'm just worried about damaging the internals. Does anyone know though what the maximum operating temperature is? So I could monitor my phone or turn it off when it reaches a certain temperature. I tried contacting Samsung about this but they didn't reply (their CS is bad in my country).
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Thanks for the replies. I know the SII has a tendency to work up some heat and I'm just worried about damaging the internals. Does anyone know though what the maximum operating temperature is? So I could monitor my phone or turn it off when it reaches a certain temperature. I tried contacting Samsung about this but they didn't reply (their CS is bad in my country).
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same thing, i kinda worried with the internal parts, if it going too hot every time. Even only using wifi for browsing, it made a heat that really annoying
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same thing, i kinda worried with the internal parts, if it going too hot every time. Even only using wifi for browsing, it made a heat that really annoying
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Yeah. I'd really like to know if it's okay that it gets hot a lot and at what temperature the internals get toasted. The manual says nothing about it.
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I would say 46c when charging is way too hot, Im even finding 41c already above the expected charging temperatures.
I have noticed Kernels having a lot to do with strange battery drain and overheating. I flashed back to a stock Australian Carrier Firmware and as soon as my phone restarted it was getting hot. I could feel it burning through the back and front of the phone. I flashed another kernel and the problem went away.
I wouldn't exactly call this an issue because it doesn't really affect how I use my phone - it's merely something odd that has me curious if anyone else has it:
If I charge my phone all night, and plug it out at 100%, then no matter what I do it'll stick to 100% for a long, LONG while before it hits 99% - we're talking..25 mins of sat nav, and spotify, and full screen brightness on the go. But then, it falls down into a more regular pace of discharging.
If however I unplug it 5-10 mins after it hits 100%, it starts discharging normally.
I think I can get a batter life of full browsing of 6 hours, probably. Maybe a bit more (never tried it, never needed to).
I am just curious why this happens with my LG. Do you think it's a fault or is it fairly common?
Thanks
P.S. - testing it again now - 15 mins in youtube watching a video, still at 100%. very strange
you seem to have found some interesting sweetspots of charging and battery depletions.
My instinct tells me the discharging and the 100% mark is influenced by code in some way other then the battery being truly at 100%. There is software like android tuner or battery widget that monitors stuff.
however a great dev already wrote something about tinkering on lg's side in reporting the battery. Which means the percentage is. indicative but completely reliable. To gain more indepth into the actual battery usage other apps are needed. If have battery ocd that is.
I would report this to lg, just to be sure nothing else is happening
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you seem to have found some interesting sweetspots of charging and battery depletions.
My instinct tells me the discharging and the 100% mark is influenced by code in some way other then the battery being truly at 100%. There is software like android tuner or battery widget that monitors stuff.
however a great dev already wrote something about tinkering on lg's side in reporting the battery. Which means the percentage is. indicative but completely reliable. To gain more indepth into the actual battery usage other apps are needed. If have battery ocd that is.
I would report this to lg, just to be sure nothing else is happening
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what is more interesting is that this happens to me both on official LG, and on ROM (cloudyfix).
Continuing with my tests, I have been running youtube on repeat since unplugging and monitoring. I am now at 50%, with...close to 5 hours of usage?
then its playing from buffer and not continiously downloading and streaming right?
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then its playing from buffer and not continiously downloading and streaming right?
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It downloaded all times. I plugged the phone in to charge at 10÷.at that time I had 7:30 hours YouTube screen time on auto at 90÷ . I suppose this is a good performance?
its great performance
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its great performance
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yeah i thought so.
So I'll leave with that little flaw I think, I'll just learn not to mind it and be sure to always charge overnight to get the best next day. Thanks for the help
I usually charge my phone and reboot it right after it hits 100%. I don't disconnect the charger until the phone restarts completely.
Doing that I get outstanding battery life