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SoC in new GT 10.1

Hi,
since at this point it is unknown whatever updated 10.1 will still run on Tegra 2 or something else (Exynos 4201) I would appreciate your opinion on this matter.
What do you think will be inside?
If two versions will be available which one will you buy?
Of you hear any thing new in this subject - please post here.
Since Tegra 2 has some limitations (video playback) I personally hope it will run on Samsung's own SoC, will play all video formats and divix/xivid with DLNA and playback from SD will work beautifully.

I have an issue with Sammy using their own chip for one reason. When every other phone was running a Qualcomm chip and the Galaxy phones were using Hummingbird chips, there was some optimization in the android code that was not included for Samsung chips.
Since Honeycomb has been built around the Tegra 2 chip, I fear the same thing will happen.

Don't believe HC was built around Tegra2...hence the reason for no Dual-Core spec requirement. Hell, it's up and running on devices of all sorts as we speak.

I want Tegra games more than support for h.264 high profile video playback.
So, I want Tegra
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If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...

galtom said:
If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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Assuming he's talking about the PS3 and TegraZone games that require a Tegra chip. Other chips could probably play them, but think Nvidia has it so they look specifically for the Tegra chip.

Not that gaming is my main priority, but I saw all those "Tegra optimized" games on the Tegra Zone.
They are all nice games
It will be sucks if they don't perform as expected on non-Tegra tablet.
Because as I said, I could care less with that H.264 high profile. I can still "convert" them or stream (via future app ala AirPlay on iOS).
galtom said:
If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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by this summer, tegra2 will be one and half years old since announced, and tegra3 will be only half year away
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More than likely, Samsungs SoC will be nearly identical to the Ipad 2's A5 SoC, which has already shown to be several times faster in the gfx department vs a Tegra 2.
Also, the Tegra 2 is missing the NEON optimizations in most other A9 SoC's.
So I put my vote toward Samsung's SoC.

gururise said:
More than likely, Samsungs SoC will be nearly identical to the Ipad 2's A5 SoC, which has already shown to be several times faster in the gfx department vs a Tegra 2.
Also, the Tegra 2 is missing the NEON optimizations in most other A9 SoC's.
So I put my vote toward Samsung's SoC.
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But like all great hardware, it's only as good as the software it runs. I'd rather have the Tegra if it has exclusive content or specialized support from Google.

Bandage said:
Don't believe HC was built around Tegra2...hence the reason for no Dual-Core spec requirement. Hell, it's up and running on devices of all sorts as we speak.
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There were news reports that Google was going to make Tegra 2 the reference platform for Honeycomb but that never happened. Now it looks like Google is working with LG to come out with a Nexus tablet this summer so it'll be interesting to see what they are putting in that.
Personally I hope Samsung steers clear of Tegra 2 and goes with their own SoC.

Isn't LG already releasing the G-Slate? Are they gonna release another one in the summer? Thats just not a great strategy me thinks.

In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
Starts on 2min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ggUXvZnbM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looking forward to hear from Samsung whats up, and what spec the 8.9" will have and some reviews on how good there skinn on HC is.
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support

There is also Asus Transformer to choose from.

bd85 said:
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
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Besides Touchwiz, I say it depends on how you're going to use it. If I decide to get a tablet, it'll most likely be the new Galaxy Tab because (I'm going to assume here) that it'll most likely play any video and audio format I throw at it. I think that's the big difference (codecs) between the two as of now besides Touchwiz.

bd85 said:
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
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If true that would be the best news of the current tablet season as Tegra 2 sucks BIG TIME!
I would also want to know.... how close in design is Apple A5 (the one in iPad 2) by Samsung to Exynos by Samsung

I wouldn't mind if it had their proprietary SoC as what really matters in these tablets is the GPU. It seems the T2 chipset is getting a bit long-in-the-tooth despite not being heavily utilized yet. If Samsung is pairing with the Adreno 220 then that's better than the Tegra 2.

bd85 said:
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
Starts on 2min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ggUXvZnbM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looking forward to hear from Samsung whats up, and what spec the 8.9" will have and some reviews on how good there skinn on HC is.
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
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Why would they add an adreno 220, when a Mali-400 would be a lot better? Seems like an odd choice to me. Also that prototype is running Tegra 2(assuming it's the same device that's been shown off at other venues).
Maybe we'll see the Adreno 220s on the SGSII as well?

Wasn't the prototype just a 10.1v?

@Toss3
Presumably, the SGS2 will be equipped the dual-core Exynos clocked at 1.2GHz. I say "presumably" because, just like now, Samsung hasn't revealed the true name of the processor, only the clock speed.
Oddly enough, there will also be a Tegra 2 version of the SGS2.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/06/...ayed-until-may-o/&category=classic&postPage=1

I HAD A BIG DREAM... BUILDING MY EXYNOS QUADCORE DREAM TABLET... Ideas Wanted!!

Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?

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Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?
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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?

Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?

Product F(RED) said:
Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?
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Mmm... Yes... but the size of the screen will be 8" or 9.7", and, we're building it to never exceed the 159USD as our target price on Bill Of Materials Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks for writing!

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?
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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit

JSchlossstein said:
Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit
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I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?

PantechBurstOwner said:
I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?

Cyanogenmod would be great, if it's smaller though (think 7 inches) think Paranoid Android.
What would really differentiate it, would be if you already had a dual boot preinstalled on it with a little taste of everything. i.e. MIUI, CM10, and one more ultra customizable ROM (I suppose CM10) with themes that could be applied straight through the software. I understand this would probably be a pain to do, but it would make your tablet the MOST versatile tablet out there.
Also, consider like Asus, you may want to consider shoving a port on the bottom for a keyboard dock. Big fan of keyboards...
(Yes I understand I'm practically spamming you with ideas and not many of them are possible, nonetheless, lots of ideas are better than none... no?)

JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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some magical custom firmware with an awesome name, also whats the specs on the battery?

JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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Would you consider a proposal to the cyanogenmod team? It'll be nice to see a highly customizable stock firmware on a tablet..

Big +1
Ain't using separate 4G module too expensive? I don't think there should be any problem in fitting it onboard if you integrate it into one PCB design.
I'd like to see all unused cpu I/Os breaked out into set of pads onboard and documented, like UART, second USB port, I2C bus, FIMC interfaces and so on.
Also, don't get me wrong but if this project doesn't get realised (I really wish it does) - please publish non-NDA documentation. :]

MicroSD, maybe a USB port (unless it's too thick). Sounds pretty siiiick

This goes straight to my Christmas wish list!
But instead of a crippled Cyanogenmod I'd rather see dual-booting to Ubuntu and perhaps some Linaro builds. Staying close to Samsung SGS3 stock, may be a good idea for compatibility issues.
USB3 + HDMI + Front-facing Cam + JTAG over USB support (1149.7, NIDnT) + possibly UART HW debug
But perhaps more importantly, everything should be easily accessible from outside your platform so we can help hacking it back into shape when something goes wrong! Second, make sure we can freely mess with the boot configuration... I'd be happy to help sponsoring the low profile SMT DIP switch for boot config.
If you have space problems you should seriously consider using a quad-core (Krait) Snapdragon S4 Pro (MSM8960T) PoP SoC instead. Because if not, you'll need external modem support. So in your current configuration, what modem are you using? If you use the Intel XMM6260 you'll need a lot more support components, AFAICT, unless their new flagship (XMM7160) has managed even more integration somehow.
Good Luck!

so how long does the battery last? like how many mah or whatever it is lol also what would be cool is dual booting instead of ubuntu dual boot to windows 8, also a built in stand=somuchwin

Exynos 4 going to be outdated soon.
Regardless, I hope this tablet sees the light of day. A tablet that lets you easily install custom ROMs by default has been long overdue.
(Or, yes, an ubuntu tablet, though I'm not sure if even A15 would be fast enough.)

NFC, it HAS TO HAVE NFC dont build it into the back cover, if i were to get this i would paint the back and throw some LED's in it, i cant do that with my nexus 7
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1

Well, this is a great idea First I would consider not using 4G if you don't want to go in an expensive way... I would also consider using Stock Android ROM for the fans out there (like for example with the G Nexus) Processor you can use the powerful one from the Galaxy Note 10.1, but I also like tegra processors.
Subscribing to this thread!

PantechBurstOwner said:
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1
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It's the "latest" ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (aka Nova A9600)!
2.5GHz, 28 nm Technology. Dual ARM Cortex-A9 Harvard Superscalar processor core, Multi-layer AHB/AXI bus, ARM TrustZone, ARM NEON SIMD engine, dual-channel LP-DDR2 SD RAM interface, 1080p HDMI, Rogue GPU, 1080p video encode, 1080p video decode, 3D HD video capture and display, QXGA display support, Dual camera support up to 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel, USB 2.0
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But because of ST-Ericssons financial troubles, it's unlikely we'll see any full scale production of this chip within the next 6 months...if ever.

What about screen?

JSchlossstein said:
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
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That's the screen currently its like 8 or 9.7" and he said make suggestions if you can lol
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[Q] Best Android Stick out there

I would like to buy the best Android TV Stick that is on the market..
I've searched the web and all the specs just looks the same.
Could you please mention the name of the best Android TV stick out there?

SaharLevi said:
I would like to buy the best Android TV Stick that is on the market..
I've searched the web and all the specs just looks the same.
Could you please mention the name of the best Android TV stick out there?
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Four threads down: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089407

scmobileman said:
Four threads down: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089407
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Thanks for replying.
I've seen the post everyone speaks about their own devices so I can't properly decide
And by any chance you've got an comparison chart for AnTuTu test or other benchmark apps?

SaharLevi said:
Thanks for replying.
I've seen the post everyone speaks about their own devices so I can't properly decide
And by any chance you've got an comparison chart for AnTuTu test or other benchmark apps?
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Looks like that thread is about as good as you will get at this point. Like you I'm trying to find out as well and so far not having a lot of luck. I'm actually waiting for FedEx to deliver my mk808B. I will be glad to give you a report on that after spending some time with it this afternoon.

scmobileman said:
Looks like that thread is about as good as you will get at this point. Like you I'm trying to find out as well and so far not having a lot of luck. I'm actually waiting for FedEx to deliver my mk808B. I will be glad to give you a report on that after spending some time with it this afternoon.
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Thanks for replying.
I've searched the web and I got to this one guy's channel on YouTube, he's reviewing Android PC and stuff
well just listen to this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0hyY6_9SPTo#t=287s
He's saying that MX1 is faster than the MK808 (and I read that MX2 is even better than MX1 because of the plastic shell)

MK808B Benchmarks
I've been benchmarking my MK808B using 4.1.1 ROMS. I just started testing 4.2.2 ROMS and things don't look as good. Stick with 4.1.1 until issues with 4.2.2 are resolved.
Benchmarks for MK808B
tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
Please post any benchmark results of other TV Sticks so we have an idea a baseline for comparison. For $50 I think the MK808B makes the best device.

cesar33 said:
I've been benchmarking my MK808B using 4.1.1 ROMS. I just started testing 4.2.2 ROMS and things don't look as good. Stick with 4.1.1 until issues with 4.2.2 are resolved.
Benchmarks for MK808B
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Please post any benchmark results of other TV Sticks so we have an idea a baseline for comparison. For $50 I think the MK808B makes the best device.
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Great! thanks for the info.:good:

MK908
Most of the dongles only have 1gb ram on it but the MK908 has 2gb ram so is much faster.
Android Mini PC (MK908)
Quad-Core A9 Processor
Running Android OS 4.2.2
Product Features
Google Android OS 4.2
Dual Heatsink
Dual Wifi Antenna
Cortex A9 Rk3188 Quad Core CPU
Quad Core Mali 400 GPU
2GB DDR3 RAM
8GB NAND FLASH ROM
Bluetooth v4.0
Wifi support 802.11 b/g/n
Technical Details
Brand Name: Mini PC
Model: MK809
Specifications
Model No: MK908
Operation System Google Android 4.2
CPU 28nm RK3188 Quad Core, ARM Cortex-A9, 1.6ghz, Max 1.8Ghz
RAM DDR3 2GB
Internal Memory Nand Flash 8GB
Memory External Support External Storage via TF card, Support up to 32GB
Networking Support 802.11 b/g/n
Graphics Type Integrated Graphics Mali400, Supports 1080P video (1920*1080)
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0
Input/Output Connectors
Support WIFI 802.1b/g/n.
Ports
1 X USB 2.0 Host for external drive/component
1 X OTG Mini USB port for wireless keyboard mouse device
1 X Mini USB for power
PS. There are other 2gb out there so have a look around before you buy.

xwestor signalman
i think you should go for k-r42 tv box.
its not a stick but the price is 83$
so its similar to sticks but you get beter device with spdif 2 full usb audio jack etc.

Quad Core android tv stick Tronsmart T428 $99 shipped

I just saw that Geekbuying is selling the Tronsmart T428 quad core tv stick for only $99 w/ free shipping.
This based on the newest quad core chipset by rockchip, the RK3188 with 2GB of Ram. It should be a real winner.
I just ordered one and should have a review up in a week or 2.
Specs:
-Rockchip RK3188 quad core Cortex-A9 up to 1.8GHz(Probably underclocked 1.2-1.6ghz)
-quad core Mali-400 MP4 @ 533MHz
-2GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz
-8GB NAND Flash
-micro SD slot
-Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac
-Bluetooth – BT4.0
-Full size USB port
-micro USB for power
-Male HDMI 1.4 port
-reset button
-5V/2A usb power adapter
Order from here:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tron...188-2G-DDR3-Wifi-Bluetooth-TV-BOX-314524.html
Info on geekbuying's blog:
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.ph...428-quad-core-mini-pc-stock-firmware-release/
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.ph...428the-first-rk3188-quad-core-mini-pc-coming/
PCB pics on geekbuying blog:
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.ph...428the-first-rk3188-quad-core-mini-pc-coming/
Other links:
www.cnx-software.com/2013/04/17/tronsmart-t428-android-4-2-2-mini-pc-powered-by-rockchip-rk3188/
www.liliputing.com/2013/04/tronsmart-t428-tv-stick-with-rk3188-android-4-2-now-available.html

I wanna buy it but it takes too long to get here in USA. I don't wanna deal with custom and all the hassles.
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I've been looking forward to this one since the announcement last month.
As usual shipping from china takes some time. However in the USA there isn't much problems with customs.
I've ordered plenty of stuff via Hong Kong of Singapore shipping and at worst have only had to go to the post office to pick it up.
I ordererd with DHL, but I also ordered some other items to make it worth the extra cost.
Plus it costs me $10 to get to the post office and back so express shipping just makes sense to me.
I'm sure these will show up on ebay in about a month for $10-$20 more with a usa seller.
That's the way these things usually go.

Other then this one, what has been the better one to buy?
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Other then this one, what has been the better one to buy?
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The current stick with the most support, roms, and development would be the original MK808.
It's based on the RK3066 dual core with 1GB ram and 8GB nand. This is considered last generation hardware.
I love/hate this stick. It uses the RK901 wifi which has signal drop problems and maxes out at 65Mbps.
It's also one of the few android sticks with a heatsink which allows it to operate at over 1.2Ghz without issues.
It can be had for under $45 shipped. I own several of these.
I just received news that another RK3188 stick is being released.
The MK908 - upgraded version of the MK808 series.
-Rk3188
-2GB ram
-8GB nand
-Wifi b/g/n
-Bluetooth 4.0
-1 full size usb port
-1 mini usb port OTG
-1 mini usb port for power
-female mini hdmi port
-hidden reset button
From what I can tell the main difference between the MK908 and the T428 is the wifi, the casing, the mini hdmi port, and the extra OTG mini usb port.
The MK908 does not support 5Ghz like the T428 is supposed to.
The MK908 does have an extra mini usb port with OTG support.
The MK908 has a female mini hdmi port instead of a male full size hdmi connector.
There's also a price difference. MK908 is $89 vs the T428 at $99.
It's a good deal if you don't need/want 5Ghz wifi.
I also ordered one of these so I should be able to provide a review when it comes.
Purchase Link:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tron...x-RK3188-Quad-Core-2G-8G-BT-Black-315155.html
Info Link:
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.ph...3188-quad-core-mini-pc-tv-box-release-review/

Sorry for the noob question but how does this work exactly?
Edit: Never mind I finally found an explanation on Google.
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Can you put ubuntu on one of these?

hajalie24 said:
Can you put ubuntu on one of these?
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As of right now you can't put ubuntu onto the rk3188 devices.
There is no kernel source released or leaked. Hopefully we'll get some kernel source like we did for the rk3066
It may be possible to do ubuntu the old way with a vnc viewer, but I won't know until I get my sticks delievered.
I'm willing to be the guinea pig for any testing that needs to be done once I have these speed demons in my hands.

deadhp1 said:
As of right now you can't put ubuntu onto the rk3188 devices.
There is no kernel source released or leaked. Hopefully we'll get some kernel source like we did for the rk3066
It may be possible to do ubuntu the old way with a vnc viewer, but I won't know until I get my sticks delievered.
I'm willing to be the guinea pig for any testing that needs to be done once I have these speed demons in my hands.
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What type of controller would you recommend for one of these sticks?
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DaKillaWilla said:
What type of controller would you recommend for one of these sticks?
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The controller at the top of my list is the Logitech K400. I like the position of the extra mouse button on the opposite side from the touchpad.
It's a bit big though.
I've also had success using the Rii Mini, and the Measy RC12.

I'm using that K400 keyboard and it works great. It has about 90% functionality in Android. Now about this Quad stick. I'd stay away from the thing or any Media box/stick unless you can mod it with a heat sink at least .. TV boxes get pushed more then a smartphone does and while these CPU's run cool enough in a smartphone and tablet, not so much in a Media box. I have the Promethius and it didn't have a heat sink. Playing Angry Birds or any 3D game caused it to lock up. I added a heat sink and it worked fine but ran really hot even at stock clocks. Now that I've moded my box with a tall heat sink and fan, this is no longer the problem and It runs super cool, even overclocked to 1.3GHz. These products are being made half ass. Be warned !

SovereignKnight said:
I'm using that K400 keyboard and it works great. It has about 90% functionality in Android. Now about this Quad stick. I'd stay away from the thing or any Media box/stick unless you can mod it with a heat sink at least .. TV boxes get pushed more then a smartphone does and while these CPU's run cool enough in a smartphone and tablet, not so much in a Media box. I have the Promethius and it didn't have a heat sink. Playing Angry Birds or any 3D game caused it to lock up. I added a heat sink and it worked fine but ran really hot even at stock clocks. Now that I've moded my box with a tall heat sink and fan, this is no longer the problem and It runs super cool, even overclocked to 1.3GHz. These products are being made half ass. Be warned !
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Both the T428 and the MK908 have heatsinks. So no worries on that end!
The Prometheus really needed a heatsink as did the original UG802.
Anyhow I'm expecting delivery by Tuesday so hopefully I'll have preliminary reviews up by Wednesday.
I'm really looking forward to it!

I've got one of the mk908's en route as well.
One rub though already: rk3188 is full 1080p, 3d and dual screen capable but this stick is shipping as 720p native.
I'm bouncing emails with geekbuying now to see what the deal is.
I just found this http://www.shenzhenpc2u.com/2013/04/here-comes-android-4-2-rk3188-quad-core-1080p-dlna-tv-stick-ug802b/ which has the same specs but lists 1080p native and ac3/dts decoding. only difference seems to be android 4.2 hopefully the mk908 will get the goods when the roll out the 4.2 upgrade... fingers crossed

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I've got one of the mk908's en route as well.
One rub though already: rk3188 is full 1080p, 3d and dual screen capable but this stick is shipping as 720p native.
I'm bouncing emails with geekbuying now to see what the deal is.
I just found this http://www.shenzhenpc2u.com/2013/04/here-comes-android-4-2-rk3188-quad-core-1080p-dlna-tv-stick-ug802b/ which has the same specs but lists 1080p native and ac3/dts decoding. only difference seems to be android 4.2 hopefully the mk908 will get the goods when the roll out the 4.2 upgrade... fingers crossed
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I received both the T428 and the MK908 last night. So I've started the review process and should have something up within the next day or 2.
The link you provided for the UG802B has screen shots showing that it also is running at 1280x672.
From what I've seen with the RK3066 kernels it's just a matter of selecting 1080p when they compile the kernel.
So any of these devices should be able to support native 1080p if the manufacturer compiles a kernel for it.
The real trick for rockchip would be for them to finally figure out how to enable real switching of resolutions. They generally make these chips for tablets that have set screen sizes so they haven't gotten that down yet.

I got this response from geek buying :
Hello there,
the future will achieve 1080P.
We will get ROM as soon as possible.
regards
Amy
So I guess we shall see
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I got mine today it only took like 4 days pretty damn fast shipping by DHL.
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I've posted up my reviews for the T428 and the MK908.
T428:
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=1994
MK908:
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=405&t=1995

Miracast
Hi, are you able to test the miracast functionality with a phone?
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I've posted up my reviews for the T428 and the MK908.
T428:
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=1994
MK908:
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=405&t=1995
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cddt said:
Hi, are you able to test the miracast functionality with a phone?
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I've never used miracast before, so I've been trying to set it up with my phablet.
I know that the T428 has support for it, I just don't seem to be able to connect properly with my phablet.
The T428 says connected, my phablet sticks at connecting...
In other news I've uploaded the stock 4.2.2 firmware for the T428.
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewforum.php?f=208
I'm in the process of making a slightly modified version of this that will have root and a 2GB data partition.
I may included some other tweaks.

Thanks for trying, let me know if you have any luck.
I'll try with my nexus 4 when I get mine delivered.
deadhp1 said:
I've never used miracast before, so I've been trying to set it up with my phablet.
I know that the T428 has support for it, I just don't seem to be able to connect properly with my phablet.
The T428 says connected, my phablet sticks at connecting...
In other news I've uploaded the stock 4.2.2 firmware for the T428.
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewforum.php?f=208
I'm in the process of making a slightly modified version of this that will have root and a 2GB data partition.
I may included some other tweaks.
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Any upcoming head units better than rk3188?

I've been researching these chinese headunits for my mercedes and I believe the ones that run rk3188 are the fastest currently..... I am wondering if I should just pull the trigger on one of these or is there going to be an advancement coming anytime soon? Like an octocore or something. Also was wondering is there a big difference in speed between the r16 quad core a7 vs the rk3188 quadcore a9........... The unit I really want is this but I am pretty sure it is running a quad core a7 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-8-...ation-Central-Multimedia-for/32603628957.html
even though it says quad core a9.

http://www.in-dash.net/buy_en/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=15&product_id=83
This unit specifically says it's for a Hyundai but it looks just like the "universal" 2 din unit that I have. It boots quickly, has hardware H.264 decoding along with other codecs. Octa-Core processor. If there were some more folks here who had the unit I bet we could get some really good roms and/or other customizations going for it.
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Forrice said:
http://www.in-dash.net/buy_en/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=15&product_id=83
This unit specifically says it's for a Hyundai but it looks just like the "universal" 2 din unit that I have. It boots quickly, has hardware H.264 decoding along with other codecs. Octa-Core processor. If there were some more folks here who had the unit I bet we could get some really good roms and/or other customizations going for it.
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Something looks not right. Their hardware looks like the old style to me. Buttons and so on belongs
to old units. They claim DVD optional when the hardware has an opening for DVD? SWC optional is
kind of crazy too. The specification looks thin to me.

I have the version from the indiegogo campaign which is only 800x480 I think but it mostly performs rather well. It boots in about 10 seconds, maybe 15. Supports play store out of the gate. Some software is certainly lacking in terms of his customized solutions like Bluetooth interface for phone. But all in all it's better than anything else I've had the opportunity to play with, (admittedly limited) or researched.
I think this guy needs some growth with his company and some serious feedback and maybe he can get some more talent at his company to create some better software solutions.
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These don't all come with Bluetooth phone and google play store out the box?
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I have seen some where play services implementation is junky and play store won't work at all. Some have it so that you need a spoofing app so that you can download basic apps. I'm sure they all support Bluetooth phone in some capacity or another. The implementation on this device could use some work but purely as a headset it works fine.
Oh and his specs on that page I think are identical for all of the units. So the dvd thing doesn't surprise me. The front end of the business, (store front, manuals, product shots and details) could certainly stand to improve but I'm optimistic.
- Nathan
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If a device says it's running android 4.4.4 or 4.4.2. is it safe to assume I can run store and the phone implementations are functional. I really think I want to go with the 9 inch screen for the Mercedes because I think it looks sweet but not sure how well the quad core r7 stacks to the new quad core r9. It also runs 4.4.2.
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you can check this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pumpkin-Receiver-Bluetooth-Navigation-Subwoofer/dp/B01AXMEAWS/
OS:Android 4.4 Kit Kat
CPU:Rockchip RK3066 Cortex A9 Dual Core 1.6GHz
RAMDR3 1GB
Nand Memory:8GB
Audio output:4*50W max
Screen Resolution:1024*600
Cold Boot time: about 25-30s