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I HAD A BIG DREAM... BUILDING MY EXYNOS QUADCORE DREAM TABLET... Ideas Wanted!!

Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?

JSchlossstein said:
Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?
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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?

Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?

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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?
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Mmm... Yes... but the size of the screen will be 8" or 9.7", and, we're building it to never exceed the 159USD as our target price on Bill Of Materials Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks for writing!

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?
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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit

JSchlossstein said:
Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit
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I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?

PantechBurstOwner said:
I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?

Cyanogenmod would be great, if it's smaller though (think 7 inches) think Paranoid Android.
What would really differentiate it, would be if you already had a dual boot preinstalled on it with a little taste of everything. i.e. MIUI, CM10, and one more ultra customizable ROM (I suppose CM10) with themes that could be applied straight through the software. I understand this would probably be a pain to do, but it would make your tablet the MOST versatile tablet out there.
Also, consider like Asus, you may want to consider shoving a port on the bottom for a keyboard dock. Big fan of keyboards...
(Yes I understand I'm practically spamming you with ideas and not many of them are possible, nonetheless, lots of ideas are better than none... no?)

JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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some magical custom firmware with an awesome name, also whats the specs on the battery?

JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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Would you consider a proposal to the cyanogenmod team? It'll be nice to see a highly customizable stock firmware on a tablet..

Big +1
Ain't using separate 4G module too expensive? I don't think there should be any problem in fitting it onboard if you integrate it into one PCB design.
I'd like to see all unused cpu I/Os breaked out into set of pads onboard and documented, like UART, second USB port, I2C bus, FIMC interfaces and so on.
Also, don't get me wrong but if this project doesn't get realised (I really wish it does) - please publish non-NDA documentation. :]

MicroSD, maybe a USB port (unless it's too thick). Sounds pretty siiiick

This goes straight to my Christmas wish list!
But instead of a crippled Cyanogenmod I'd rather see dual-booting to Ubuntu and perhaps some Linaro builds. Staying close to Samsung SGS3 stock, may be a good idea for compatibility issues.
USB3 + HDMI + Front-facing Cam + JTAG over USB support (1149.7, NIDnT) + possibly UART HW debug
But perhaps more importantly, everything should be easily accessible from outside your platform so we can help hacking it back into shape when something goes wrong! Second, make sure we can freely mess with the boot configuration... I'd be happy to help sponsoring the low profile SMT DIP switch for boot config.
If you have space problems you should seriously consider using a quad-core (Krait) Snapdragon S4 Pro (MSM8960T) PoP SoC instead. Because if not, you'll need external modem support. So in your current configuration, what modem are you using? If you use the Intel XMM6260 you'll need a lot more support components, AFAICT, unless their new flagship (XMM7160) has managed even more integration somehow.
Good Luck!

so how long does the battery last? like how many mah or whatever it is lol also what would be cool is dual booting instead of ubuntu dual boot to windows 8, also a built in stand=somuchwin

Exynos 4 going to be outdated soon.
Regardless, I hope this tablet sees the light of day. A tablet that lets you easily install custom ROMs by default has been long overdue.
(Or, yes, an ubuntu tablet, though I'm not sure if even A15 would be fast enough.)

NFC, it HAS TO HAVE NFC dont build it into the back cover, if i were to get this i would paint the back and throw some LED's in it, i cant do that with my nexus 7
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1

Well, this is a great idea First I would consider not using 4G if you don't want to go in an expensive way... I would also consider using Stock Android ROM for the fans out there (like for example with the G Nexus) Processor you can use the powerful one from the Galaxy Note 10.1, but I also like tegra processors.
Subscribing to this thread!

PantechBurstOwner said:
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1
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It's the "latest" ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (aka Nova A9600)!
2.5GHz, 28 nm Technology. Dual ARM Cortex-A9 Harvard Superscalar processor core, Multi-layer AHB/AXI bus, ARM TrustZone, ARM NEON SIMD engine, dual-channel LP-DDR2 SD RAM interface, 1080p HDMI, Rogue GPU, 1080p video encode, 1080p video decode, 3D HD video capture and display, QXGA display support, Dual camera support up to 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel, USB 2.0
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But because of ST-Ericssons financial troubles, it's unlikely we'll see any full scale production of this chip within the next 6 months...if ever.

What about screen?

JSchlossstein said:
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
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That's the screen currently its like 8 or 9.7" and he said make suggestions if you can lol
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[Q] Best Android Stick out there

I would like to buy the best Android TV Stick that is on the market..
I've searched the web and all the specs just looks the same.
Could you please mention the name of the best Android TV stick out there?

SaharLevi said:
I would like to buy the best Android TV Stick that is on the market..
I've searched the web and all the specs just looks the same.
Could you please mention the name of the best Android TV stick out there?
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Four threads down: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089407

scmobileman said:
Four threads down: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089407
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Thanks for replying.
I've seen the post everyone speaks about their own devices so I can't properly decide
And by any chance you've got an comparison chart for AnTuTu test or other benchmark apps?

SaharLevi said:
Thanks for replying.
I've seen the post everyone speaks about their own devices so I can't properly decide
And by any chance you've got an comparison chart for AnTuTu test or other benchmark apps?
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Looks like that thread is about as good as you will get at this point. Like you I'm trying to find out as well and so far not having a lot of luck. I'm actually waiting for FedEx to deliver my mk808B. I will be glad to give you a report on that after spending some time with it this afternoon.

scmobileman said:
Looks like that thread is about as good as you will get at this point. Like you I'm trying to find out as well and so far not having a lot of luck. I'm actually waiting for FedEx to deliver my mk808B. I will be glad to give you a report on that after spending some time with it this afternoon.
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Thanks for replying.
I've searched the web and I got to this one guy's channel on YouTube, he's reviewing Android PC and stuff
well just listen to this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0hyY6_9SPTo#t=287s
He's saying that MX1 is faster than the MK808 (and I read that MX2 is even better than MX1 because of the plastic shell)

MK808B Benchmarks
I've been benchmarking my MK808B using 4.1.1 ROMS. I just started testing 4.2.2 ROMS and things don't look as good. Stick with 4.1.1 until issues with 4.2.2 are resolved.
Benchmarks for MK808B
tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
Please post any benchmark results of other TV Sticks so we have an idea a baseline for comparison. For $50 I think the MK808B makes the best device.

cesar33 said:
I've been benchmarking my MK808B using 4.1.1 ROMS. I just started testing 4.2.2 ROMS and things don't look as good. Stick with 4.1.1 until issues with 4.2.2 are resolved.
Benchmarks for MK808B
tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
Please post any benchmark results of other TV Sticks so we have an idea a baseline for comparison. For $50 I think the MK808B makes the best device.
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Great! thanks for the info.:good:

MK908
Most of the dongles only have 1gb ram on it but the MK908 has 2gb ram so is much faster.
Android Mini PC (MK908)
Quad-Core A9 Processor
Running Android OS 4.2.2
Product Features
Google Android OS 4.2
Dual Heatsink
Dual Wifi Antenna
Cortex A9 Rk3188 Quad Core CPU
Quad Core Mali 400 GPU
2GB DDR3 RAM
8GB NAND FLASH ROM
Bluetooth v4.0
Wifi support 802.11 b/g/n
Technical Details
Brand Name: Mini PC
Model: MK809
Specifications
Model No: MK908
Operation System Google Android 4.2
CPU 28nm RK3188 Quad Core, ARM Cortex-A9, 1.6ghz, Max 1.8Ghz
RAM DDR3 2GB
Internal Memory Nand Flash 8GB
Memory External Support External Storage via TF card, Support up to 32GB
Networking Support 802.11 b/g/n
Graphics Type Integrated Graphics Mali400, Supports 1080P video (1920*1080)
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0
Input/Output Connectors
Support WIFI 802.1b/g/n.
Ports
1 X USB 2.0 Host for external drive/component
1 X OTG Mini USB port for wireless keyboard mouse device
1 X Mini USB for power
PS. There are other 2gb out there so have a look around before you buy.

xwestor signalman
i think you should go for k-r42 tv box.
its not a stick but the price is 83$
so its similar to sticks but you get beter device with spdif 2 full usb audio jack etc.

[QUESTION]What's the best Android stick out now?

I will use the Android TV stick mostly for watching movies on XBMC, and I also want to know if any of them is capable of playing 1080p. So what'd you choose at the moment? I found the Imito MX2, and maybe the MX808 or 809, but what do you find the best stick at the moment?

I would be interested to read people's opinions also on this. I currently use two Xbox 360's with media center but Android sticks could be a nice alternative.

D3vi0uz said:
I will use the Android TV stick mostly for watching movies on XBMC, and I also want to know if any of them is capable of playing 1080p. So what'd you choose at the moment? I found the Imito MX2, and maybe the MX808 or 809, but what do you find the best stick at the moment?
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I chose the iMito MX2 due to it's speed and the fact that it had Bluetooth built in. I have two, and the only real problem I've had is that the play store can't seem to differentiate between them... I'm assuming I'll have to hack a serial down the road in one of them to fix it. It plays 1080p though, and is fast enough to handle dead trigger and retro arch with a gamepad, and blows my raspberry pi out of the water in xbmc smoothness. There are likely better sticks out now due to the quad cores, but these work really well for me.
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Best for the Price$
Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.

cesar33 said:
Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.
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I just bought MK 802 III for 58 dollars and It looks and works fantastic. It is dual core with 1GB ram. I read some reviews about it and most of them were positive. Android app to control it makes it better. I played some HBO Go movies and they were flawless and very clear. I also tested some 1080P videos from youtube and they works without any issue. On netflix I could see how the video started choppy but then turned into clear HD. I havent played with it much I think I am going to like it.
I also used FAVI smartstick, it was nice too but couldnt play 1080P videos. HBO go was low quality as it is single core.

cesar33 said:
Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.
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there are some with 4 cores, i dont know if some have 2 g of ram
http://www.asiapads.com/es/4-2-andr...7b-rk3188-quad-core-2gb-ram-8gb-rom-2363.html
http://liliputing.com/2013/04/tronsmart-mk908-quad-core-android-tv-stick-performance-video.html
http://liliputing.com/2013/01/cubox-mini-computer-goes-pro-with-2gb-of-ram.html
http://liliputing.com/2012/12/s21h-android-4-1-mini-pc-features-2gb-of-ram.html

Hi all, from my search the new quad cores look like they could actually be useful HTPC replacements.
They run the new RK3188 Chip, which means 1.8ghz (Quad core) CPU and MALI 400 GPU. I am still waiting for some custom ROMs and XBMC compatibility tests, but so far they look very promising.
From the reviews I've read/watched the MK908 looks like having a much improved WIFI reception, Bluetooth 4.0 and 2GB of RAM (most new sticks with the RK3188 have 2GB of RAM).
So let's see which Android pc stick will get the developers support , and then choose accordantly.
The competition is on.

Does anyone know if XBMC for android supports live/recorded TV? I have a QAM tuner in my HTPC running WMC right now.

Android stick for mothers day - need advice
I need to order an android stick and I need it fast, but I need product advice. I'm buy it for my mother for mothers day so that she can stream video over netflix and from my Plex server in my home a couple hundred miles away. I want her to be able to Skype rather seamlessly and since she's not very good with computers, less peripherals = better gift. Please advise on everything that I need to get her setup. I'll need either a stick that has a camera built in or I'll need a compatible web cam to buy separately from the stick. Same goes for the keyboard. I'd like it to be already set at or upgradeable to android 4.2 so that she can use it for Miracast. Please let me know:
- Which stick I should buy
- Recommended airmouse/air keyboard w/ mic and speaker if necessary
- Recommended/compatible wifi and/or USB webcam to clip onto the TV
- Recommended USB hub if I need one
If possible recommend devices that can be bought off of Amazon or somewhere in the US so that I can get it by Saturday. If not that's OK too I guess, it'll just be a bit late.
Thanks
Jim

I'm using UG802
Specs:
- 1.6 GHz Dual-Core (Rockchip 3066)
- 1 GB RAM
- 4 GB FLASH
- microSD Slot ( up to 32 GB)
XBMC works like a charm with the Finless ROM.

Tronsmart MK908 Google Android 4.1 Mini PC TV Box RK3188 Quad Core 2G/8G BT Black

i just ordered this from amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-MK9...&qid=1366656446&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=mk908
TronSmart™- Android TV Box
This is quad core TV box armed with with Quad Core Rockchip RK3188 and Quad Core Mali 400 GPU.
Specification
- OS: Google Android 4.1 (Flash 11.X?HTML5)
- CPU: Rk3188 Quad Core 1.6ghz, max 1.8Ghz(maximum data from manufacturer for CPU - only) (Cortex-A9)
- GPU: Quad Core Mali 400
- RAM: DDR3 2GB; ROM: On board NAND Flash 8G (Android system itself and other user data will take some space)
- Expand Micro SD: Micro SD Card/ T-Flash(Maximum support 32GB)
- Video Format: WMV/ASF/MP4/3GP/3G2M4V/AVI/MJPEG/RV10/DivX/VC-1/MPEG-2/MPEG-4/H.263/H.264/1280*720P HD 30 fps, 1080P/720*480 D1 30fps
- Audio Format: Support: MP3/WMA/APE/FLAC/AAC/OGG/AC3/WAV
- Picture Format: Support: Max.8000x8000 JPEG BMP GIF PNG
- WIFI: support 802.11 b/g/n
- Bluetooth: Bluetooth v4.0
- Output: MINI HDMI Port
- Dimension: 88mm * 31.5mm * 15.8mm
- DC: 5V 2A
- Weight: <50g - Storage environment: -20°C--60°C, 10%--90% Humidity
Ports
- 1*Mini USB,Support OTG/HOST ( USB port RJ45)
- 1*standard USB
- 1*Mini USB For charging
- 1*TF card slot
- 1*Blue LED(When connect to power
1*Physical botton(For upgrading software)
Package Includes
- 1*Tronsmart MK908
- 1*charger
- 1*hdmi cable
- 1*micro usb cable
- 1*otg cable
- 1*user manual

Let us know how it is when it comes! Really excited to see the RK3188 make its way to the TV sticks.

Ok will do sir
It's already rooted and preloaded with xbmc.
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Difference between MK908 and EU MK908
Hi,
Could anyway explain to me what the difference is between these products besides the price?
geekbuying.com/item/Tronsmart-MK908-Google-Android-4-1-Mini-PC-TV-Box-RK3188-Quad-Core-2G-8G-BT-Black-315155.html
geekbuying.com/item/EU-plug-Tronsmart-MK908-Google-Android-4-1-Mini-PC-TV-Box-RK3188-Quad-Core-2G-8G-BT-Black-315163.html
Couldn't see any noticeable differences, I'm assuming that they're the same product (MK908). Just curious where the 10 euro difference comes from..
Thanks!!

They are the same I bought it off USA amazon that's paying 10 dollars more. Geek buying is cheaper
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Review is available!
http://liliputing.com/2013/04/tronsmart-mk908-quad-core-android-tv-stick-performance-video.html
It seems like HW decoding isn't available yet for XBMC.

Has it arrived?
Is there much support for this device like ROM's or mods?

digweed4me said:
They are the same I bought it off USA amazon that's paying 10 dollars more. Geek buying is cheaper
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I actually was wondering about the "EU plug" version of the device. Both those items are sold on geekbuying and the "EU plug" version is about ten euro cheaper than the MK908 you started this thread about.

any updates on this yet? Are there any uk suppliers?

Just got this from geekbuying--going to pick it up next week. Psyched. This is my first android pc stick, finally took the plunge after seeing some preliminary videos and knowing that finless will come out for it eventually.
I'll let you all know how it goes!

mk 908 low score?
I get a score of 14000 in antutu which is low for a rk3188 at 1.6ghz i saw in no-frills cpu control in the view stats part shows that its only running at 1008mhz. Im guess its running some where in between 1.6ghz and 1008mhz because when i force a force clock of 1008mhz it only scores 11000 in antutu. I think this score of 14000 in antutu is low since tablets which run the rk3188 at 1.6hz get 18000 and at 1.8ghz get 20000. Is there any custom roms out there with cpu value controls? Will roms of other rk3188 devices work?

clone12100 said:
I get a score of 14000 in antutu which is low for a rk3188 at 1.6ghz i saw in no-frills cpu control in the view stats part shows that its only running at 1008mhz. Im guess its running some where in between 1.6ghz and 1008mhz because when i force a force clock of 1008mhz it only scores 11000 in antutu. I think this score of 14000 in antutu is low since tablets which run the rk3188 at 1.6hz get 18000 and at 1.8ghz get 20000. Is there any custom roms out there with cpu value controls? Will roms of other rk3188 devices work?
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Don't concern yourself with antutu scores just yet. Device just came out so firmware will have to get tweaked. Do you see any issues with the device rather than lower than usual antutu score?
If everything is working well I would suggest to wait a few months until this stick gets proper ROM support.

Sit_RP said:
Don't concern yourself with antutu scores just yet. Device just came out so firmware will have to get tweaked. Do you see any issues with the device rather than lower than usual antutu score?
If everything is working well I would suggest to wait a few months until this stick gets proper ROM support.
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The wifi signal seems pretty weak even though im right beside my router and it still cuts out all the time, but I am waiting for a micro usb to rj45 adapter to hard wire it anyways.

Is it possible to use Netflix
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Yes, netflix works.
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Can you get the play store on this?
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Settings erased
Hi
i got this device a couple of days ago. I noticed that when you reboot it or shut it down, the settings are reset to default. Is there a way to maintain android settings for this device even after reboot? Thanks

RADLOUNI said:
Hi
i got this device a couple of days ago. I noticed that when you reboot it or shut it down, the settings are reset to default. Is there a way to maintain android settings for this device even after reboot? Thanks
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I wanna know this too, it reset time and everything to default. The date reset back to 1971. I did check on carrier set time and it helped on date but not on time.
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Maybe try a factory reset? Might order one of these as well

Dont buy this thing... Its rather underwhelming.
It does not ship with xbmc and you cant use the current stable version because it crashes... you have to get a mirrored link for a special build from geekbuying via email which takes a week.
There are two OTG cables in the box... I can report that at least one of them is not suitable for flashing roms. I had to use an old moto cable.
its not 1080p yet.
even if they do release an update to make it push 1080, the processor doesn't seem to have the gonads to decode 720p content without at least some chop so I cant imagine 1080 ever looking good.
the stock netflix looks like crap even with solid wifi connection. the xda HD hack might fair better though I have not tried it yet
yes the play store works. yes it is rooted with SU out of the box.
Overall, I kinda think it sucks.

Exoon Q2 Mini Dongle vs Tronsmart T428 (Identical?)

Hi everyone,
So I am about to order a Tronsmart T428, as after some research I have concluded that it looks like the best Android stick out there.
It has the new wifi chip (Broadcom AP6330), which supports 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz wifi and Bluetooth 4.0. The rest is basically the same with all the RK3188 chip Android sticks (Quad 1.8Ghz/2GB RAM/8GB ROM/Support for microsd and 1 full sized USB2.0).
But, as every new technology it has some bugs, mostly in XBMC which is why I have been postponing the purchase.
Now I have found the Exoon Q2 Mini Dongle has a new ROM, which supposedly enabled hardware acceleration on XBMC and promises a smooth performance (please see here).
When comparing the hardware of the 2 products, I find it 100% identical (from reading the specifications).
Could anyone confirm that? Would the Exoon Q2 Mini Dongle ROM work with the T428?
If this would be true, it would make these small pens an extremely good buy, as the media center abilities are the biggest selling point for me).
Please let me know what you think.

Exoon's other devices are just the Minix Neo X5 and G4 just put a different sticker and added a 100 buck on to the price the rom dev has his roms on MINIX forums if you load one you get the Exoon boot logo so yes they will probably work but finless Bob makes better Roms
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I see exynos 4412 as SoC for the q2, t428 has rk3188

Sorry my bad it is this one..
http://w2comp.com/detail.asp?catid=74585&Pdtid=700200
Still 100 bucks cheaper
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Thank you all for the replies.
@quincyquinn
I still don't have the T428, waiting for it to arrive as I already ordered 3 . This thread was made due to the fact that I was reading the Exoon claim that they have developed a ROM for their Q2 and Q2 mini stick which has flawless playback in XBMC with hardware acceleration, something that T428 still did not have (or at least I thought that they did not have).
When comparing the specifications they even have the same WIFI chip, so I was not sure if their ROM would've been better on the T428 than the current official ROM.
Good to hear that there is something better to use, its a pity we don't have a place on XDA for the Android development for these devices.
As for the link you have posted, thanks for the suggestion, but it's not only the slower CPU but also the fact that it only has 1GB of RAM that puts me of. Plus it is more expensive than the T428.
@NixZero
Please see the specifications for Exoon Q2 mini dodge here
And for T428 here
Unless I am missing something they look to be exactly the same on the hardware side, with both of them using the same RK3188 chip.
Have a nice day.

Johev;41965574
Please see the specifications for Exoon Q2 mini dodge [URL="http://www.xbmcandroidtv.com/android-products/android-media-players/exoon-q2-mini.html" said:
here[/URL]
And for T428 here
Unless I am missing something they look to be exactly the same on the hardware side, with both of them using the same RK3188 chip.
Have a nice day.
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yeah, they looks like exactly the same dongle with just a different sticker, I was looking at the q2 box (why the heck they call everything with the same name?) which has a samsung cpu.
in theory you should be able to buy a 428 (less expensive) and burn one of their roms to get any advantage they have but looks like they still have to make a custom rom, there's not even a specific forum page for the new dongle on their forums.
the "firmware" page refers to the samsung one, not the new rk3188.

Exoon Roms are just custom Roms for the T428 they will not work any better than any custom ROM. Finless Bob and a few more make better Roms for these rock chip devices but the big problem is rockchip do not release source code for any chip so xbmc devs any limited to what they can do this is why the Samsung chip might be a better in the long run
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Thank you all for your replies. I still hope RK3188 will get their source code released, it is still a relatively new chip and apparently with a good performance. If RK3066 has XBMC working correctly, it is just a matter of time to get it working on this new quad core edition with a slightly higher clock .
By the way, yesterday the new firmware for the T428 has been released (4.2.2) with working bluetooth and netflix improvements. I should be getting mine next week, so I will be able to give more information about the performance.
Back to the topic, if EXOON is claiming a flawless play for 1080p content on XBMC on their Q2 and Q2 mini dodge, by this logic owners of T428 should be able to have that also.