Hello everyone,
Today I have root my i9500 today through this topic http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...exynos5-root-android422-xxuamde-jellybean.htm
I did this because I want to flash to another country firmware. So I root the phone and I flash it back to an official firmware. When I go to Dowload Mode to check the binary counter status, I see this :
Current binary: samsung official
System status: official
how is it possible? I thought that when we root the device once, the counter is not zero anymore, do I miss something? Is there somewhere else that showing Binary Counter? Could the Current binary be official even if the counter is not zero?
Can we reset the binary counter with Triangle Away for the i9500? People report that it works for i9505, but does someone try if it works for i9500?
Thank you in advance.
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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Madawcisrich said:
Hello everyone,
Today I have root my i9500 today through this topic http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...exynos5-root-android422-xxuamde-jellybean.htm
I did this because I want to flash to another country firmware. So I root the phone and I flash it back to an official firmware. When I go to Dowload Mode to check the binary counter status, I see this :
Current binary: samsung official
System status: official
how is it possible? I thought that when we root the device once, the counter is not zero anymore, do I miss something? Is there somewhere else that showing Binary Counter? Could the Current binary be official even if the counter is not zero?
Can we reset the binary counter with Triangle Away for the i9500? People report that it works for i9505, but does someone try if it works for i9500?
Thank you in advance.
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Triangle Away only works on the I9505 atm unfortunately.
Zahid Ali said:
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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Thank you for your answer. Sorry for my noobiness, but I don't know what is twrp. So clearly, does my counter increase or not? If i send my phone to samsung, will they notify that I have already root once my phone? Thank you in advance
Zahid Ali said:
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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It will always say 1 after each reboot if you have custom recovery, even if you could reset the counter to 0.
gee2012 said:
It will always say 1 after each reboot if you have custom recovery, even if you could reset the counter to 0.
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So you mean that my counter is zero now, since my binary status is samsung official?
Madawcisrich said:
So you mean that my counter is zero now, since my binary status is samsung official?
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No, it is most probably 1. Most servicecenters however rarely check the counter. I once turned in a rooted S2 with a custom rom on it and it got fixed under warranty. They wipe it and reflash a stock rom after repair.
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
samersh72 said:
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
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Correct, didn`t know that. First time on a Samsung device
Does the counter show up in Triangle Away on the I9505?
samersh72 said:
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
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ha, didn't know that. So according to you, will I have some problem if I return the phone to Samsung?
Madawcisrich said:
ha, didn't know that. So according to you, will I have some problem if I return the phone to Samsung?
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flashing unsigned stuff by samsung (cwm, rom..) via odin only, turn your status to custom and increase binary counter. i see that your status is official. but i think you dont have 0 count since when you rooted your phone you used odin.
if samsung look at your counter, so there is a problem
samersh72 said:
flashing unsigned stuff by samsung (cwm, rom..) via odin only, turn your status to custom and increase binary counter. i see that your status is official. but i think you dont have 0 count since when you rooted your phone you used odin.
if samsung look at your counter, so there is a problem
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So at the moment there is no solution for the i9500 to reset the counter to 0, right?
Madawcisrich said:
So at the moment there is no solution for the i9500 to reset the counter to 0, right?
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not by using triangle away (waiting CF for solution). but i dont know if there is other solution. search
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I want to make sure that its at 0 because I just flashed back to a Stock ROM and now I'm unrooted.
This is what it says when I go into download mode.
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SPH-L720
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
You cant...
marc_ecko28 said:
You cant...
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Then how am I suppose to know if someone can detect if someone modified myphone..?
dignifiedsmurf said:
Then how am I suppose to know if someone can detect if someone modified myphone..?
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Have never used it but Triangle Away is supposed to let you view the counter and reset to 0 if wanted. Works for the S4 on stock firmware. Might want to read up on it if you haven't: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
CCallahan said:
Have never used it but Triangle Away is supposed to let you view the counter and reset to 0 if wanted. Works for the S4 on stock firmware. Might want to read up on it if you haven't: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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Yeah but it doesnt work with MF9 update so if you want to reset your counter then go back to MDL
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dignifiedsmurf said:
I want to make sure that its at 0 because I just flashed back to a Stock ROM and now I'm unrooted.
This is what it says when I go into download mode.
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SPH-L720
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
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The two entries that say "official" should tell you that your counter is set to zero.
Since TriangleAway does not work for MF9 the only way to know for sure is to go back to MDL.
Just because it shows Samsung Official means nothing. Samsung Official and Official mean there is nothing that has tripped that status to change since the last official install of firmware on the device that reset the status to Official after an FDR. He is correct though as to how to be positive by downgrading to MDC or MDL, rooting and checking in Triangle Away that way and then resetting it through Triangle Away even if it was at zero before due to it now saying 1 so THEN you can ODIN back to MDC or MDL, doing an FDR AMD taking whatever OTAs you wish to accept.
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Triangle Away for Sprint Firmware MF9 Update???
ROMANTiC KiD said:
Yeah but it doesnt work with MF9 update so if you want to reset your counter then go back to MDL
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I am sure that the poor developer, Chainfire, is totally swamped by requests for this, but, has anyone heard about an update to Triangle Away? If that is not forthcoming, Is there by chance a video or detailed notes on how to downgrade to a previous firmware in order to run the existing version of Triangle Away? If so, would you be so kind as to include the links?
TIA
Hello friends I have a i9500 Indian version and I want to root but worried about the counter has anyone been able to root and later was the service able to detect the counter please help
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hypergamer1231 said:
Hello friends I have a i9500 Indian version and I want to root but worried about the counter has anyone been able to root and later was the service able to detect the counter please help
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Yes, no way to reset the counter atm on the I9500 and it is visible for service personal.
gee2012 said:
Yes, no way to reset the counter atm on the I9500 and it is visible for service personal.
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Thanks a ton for the reply so did the svc center void the warranty and does this mean we will have to wait till chainfire or someone can find a way to make triangle away work on the I9500.....I kinda feel sad for the exynos variant isnt there any way to root the device without losing the warranty..
hypergamer1231 said:
Thanks a ton for the reply so did the svc center void the warranty and does this mean we will have to wait till chainfire or someone can find a way to make triangle away work on the I9500.....I kinda feel sad for the exynos variant isnt there any way to root the device without losing the warranty..
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Not that i know of, it is triggered when custom software is beeing installed with Odin.
gee2012 said:
Not that i know if, it is triggered when custom software is beeing installed by Odin.
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So what am trying to check here is if i install a custom recovery which obviously will be via odin and for some reason if i have to give the phone to the svc center and i flash back to the stock rom will i be able to cover it under warranty....
hypergamer1231 said:
So what am trying to check here is if i install a custom recovery which obviously will be via odin and for some reason if i have to give the phone to the svc center and i flash back to the stock rom will i be able to cover it under warranty....
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Your counter will still be raised and the status will still show modified, if they see that they may void warranty as it is not in original condition.
I am rooted. My counter is at 0. Link to stock rom with root is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Flashing this via odin doesnt trip the counter.
hellboy13 said:
I am rooted. My counter is at 0. Link to stock rom with root is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Flashing this via odin doesnt trip the counter.
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Yup, thats the only exception Unless you want/need custom recovery.
Hello,
I want to root my note 3 which is the international exynos model.
I was reading through the forum and found out that this model doesn't have a knox counter.
So my question is, if i root the phone using CF Auto Root, will it increase my flash counter and make my system unofficial??
Thank you for the help.
yes it will
Can we return to the official status by flashing official rom?
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mnaveed said:
yes it will
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thank you!
ahmednabeel said:
Can we return to the official status by flashing official rom?
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as i understood from the reading i did, yes we can revert to official by flashing stock.
phil.asmar said:
as i understood from the reading i did, yes we can revert to official by flashing stock.
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While the status changes to "Official", the binary counter still remain at 2 or 3 or more based on number of times you flashed. From a warranty point-of-view, Samsung can still claim that you have voided warranty.
archer797 said:
While the status changes to "Official", the binary counter still remain at 2 or 3 or more based on number of times you flashed. From a warranty point-of-view, Samsung can still claim that you have voided warranty.
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how can you check the binary counter??
phil.asmar said:
how can you check the binary counter??
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Download TriangleAway app (Chainfire's App) and execute it. You can see the binary count in there.
archer797 said:
Download TriangleAway app (Chainfire's App) and execute it. You can see the binary count in there.
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i will try it! thank u!!
Hello everyone,
I have Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and using CyanogenMod's installer version a few months now.
CyanogenMod's installer has A LOT of problems and I had enough of it and want to go back to stock.
Before I moved to CM I had 4.3 and also Knox bootloader so it went to 0x1 after CM's installation.
I want to ask can I go to stock 4.3 even that my Knox is 0x1?
Do I need to use TriangleAway? If so, how?
I understood that TriangleAway requires Samsung's official kernel but I have the kernel of CM now.
Anyway, what do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
Meyhemg said:
Hello everyone,
I have Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and using CyanogenMod's installer version a few months now.
CyanogenMod's installer has A LOT of problems and I had enough of it and want to go back to stock.
Before I moved to CM I had 4.3 and also Knox bootloader so it went to 0x1 after CM's installation.
I want to ask can I go to stock 4.3 even that my Knox is 0x1?
Do I need to use TriangleAway? If so, how?
I understood that TriangleAway requires Samsung's official kernel but I have the kernel of CM now.
Anyway, what do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
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Find your stock rom specifically the one that is your region. If your phone is for example like mine, i9500 XSE which is the first three letters of Indonesia then get that specific stock file.
It's probably around 1.4 gigs. It downloads very slow. After that open Odin flash the stock rom, and your good to go. I've bricked numerous times and all I've done was revert back like this. No problems.
I don't know if you can put the stock rom in your custom recovery and flash it there, I haven't tried it yet just run Odin in administrator mode, insert the stock rom, go into download mode on your phone by pressing - vol and power, then click start.
Wait.
Stock.
Done,
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Drasztic said:
Find your stock rom specifically the one that is your region. If your phone is for example like mine, i9500 XSE which is the first three letters of Indonesia then get that specific stock file.
It's probably around 1.4 gigs. It downloads very slow. After that open Odin flash the stock rom, and your good to go. I've bricked numerous times and all I've done was revert back like this. No problems.
I don't know if you can put the stock rom in your custom recovery and flash it there, I haven't tried it yet just run Odin in administrator mode, insert the stock rom, go into download mode on your phone by pressing - vol and power, then click start.
Wait.
Stock.
Done,
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Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
Meyhemg said:
Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
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I may be wrong on this one but, if you use the auto CF root method I don't think there's a way to use the triangle method.
Therefore you're stuck on Knox. I could be wrong but I'm leaning on 70% being right..
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Meyhemg said:
Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
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I guess the binary counter is hidden somewhere. And for updates you can get OTA kies updates if you are havin stock recovery. One last thing Triangle away doesnt supports I9500.
All the best.
Mandark52 said:
I guess the binary counter is hidden somewhere. And for updates you can get OTA kies updates if you are havin stock recovery. One last thing Triangle away doesnt supports I9500.
All the best.
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Thanks.
I installed stock BTU and now my device status shows "Official" and also in download mode, without using TriangleAway.
Also, Kies works with my device again and recognizes it.
Meyhemg said:
Thanks.
I installed stock BTU and now my device status shows "Official" and also in download mode, without using TriangleAway.
Also, Kies works with my device again and recognizes it.
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Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
deandoi said:
Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
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But when I connect my phone to Kies it does recognize my phone and says I have the latest firmware and it doesn't shoe any sign that I won't be able to update through it.
I think you're mistaken with the binary counter. If the binary counter wasn't 0 and showed custom in download mode and settings only then I couldn't update via Kies.
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Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
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If you have a custom recovery then you wont be able to update via Kies or OTA.
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Meyhemg said:
But when I connect my phone to Kies it does recognize my phone and says I have the latest firmware and it doesn't shoe any sign that I won't be able to update through it.
I think you're mistaken with the binary counter. If the binary counter wasn't 0 and showed custom in download mode and settings only then I couldn't update via Kies.
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Oh yeah. My mistake.
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deandoi said:
Oh yeah. My mistake.
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PHEW. I thought it's the end of updates for my device.
What I did understand is that I won't be able to use Knox app on the phone. right?
Meyhemg said:
PHEW. I thought it's the end of updates for my device.
What I did understand is that I won't be able to use Knox app on the phone. right?
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Yep. You won't be able to use them. I disable them anyway.
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Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
Kashmir Hackers said:
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
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Yes S3 Neo has Knox. You can use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck app to check if you have Knox.
Info :
0x0 Warranty valid/You have knox
0x1 Warranty void/You don't have knox
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Kashmir Hackers said:
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
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Software tools say it has. But after flashing different roms and recoveries gazzilion times mine still says 0x0. As you can see from the screenshot even atm I am using cm12.1 with TWRP recovery and it hasnt done anything to the counter. So to be honest I think no matter what you do you can just flash back stock from odin and keep waranty.
xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
Yes S3 Neo has Knox. You can use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck app to check if you have Knox.
Info :
0x0 Warranty valid/You have knox
0x1 Warranty void/You don't have knox
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Does it really mean we have Knox Security if the app shows 0x0 ???
mandzo said:
Software tools say it has. But after flashing different roms and recoveries gazzilion times mine still says 0x0. As you can see from the screenshot even atm I am using cm12.1 with TWRP recovery and it hasnt done anything to the counter. So to be honest I think no matter what you do you can just flash back stock from odin and keep waranty.
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Wow, then it is really a good news but can anyone else confirm it....Please
Kashmir Hackers said:
Wow, then it is really a good news but can anyone else confirm it....Please
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Heres another screenshot from Phone Info app. Now the since this app detects knox warranty void on models like s4, s5 and as far as I know s6, I highly doubt samsung went thru the trouble of putting some undetectable warranty counter and a mid range device such as our S3 neos.
mandzo said:
Heres another screenshot from Phone Info app. Now the since this app detects knox warranty void on models like s4, s5 and as far as I know s6, I highly doubt samsung went thru the trouble of putting some undetectable warranty counter and a mid range device such as our S3 neos.
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My Phone is just two months old , should I root my mobile because I'm afraid of tripping the knox counter which obviously you can't reset.
Kashmir Hackers said:
My Phone is just two months old , should I root my mobile because I'm afraid of tripping the knox counter which obviously you can't reset.
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I rooted mine the second day I got it (I got it somewhere around January). So far havent had any problems with it and the knox (if there is one) still says 0x0. That said rooting and flashing custom recovery is still something that may potentialy harm your device so its up to you to decide. Dont take my words as 100% proof everything will be ok. Maybe indeed w8 for a few more ppl to say if they had any problems with knox so far.
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Does it really mean we have Knox Security if the app shows 0x0 ???
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I am not 100% sure mate.
I checked my build.prop file and I found this "ro.config.knox=v00" I don"t know if it means, our phone has knox. I also found an app called "KNOX notification manager" in settings.
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xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
I am not 100% sure mate.
I checked my build.prop file and I found this "ro.config.knox=v00" I don"t know if it means, our phone has knox. I also found an app called "KNOX notification manager" in settings.
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Knox isnt only related to warranty btw. It allso has to do with samsung enterprise security crap. Thats why we have some knox apps on our phones.
But again w8 for more reports from ppl who have rooted before you do it just to be safe.
mandzo said:
Knox isnt only related to warranty btw. It allso has to do with samsung enterprise security crap. Thats why we have some knox apps on our phones.
But again w8 for more reports from ppl who have rooted before you do it just to be safe.
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Hey Buddy guess what? I took the risk and rooted my mobile with Cf Auto Root method and everything went smoothely and when I checked Knox status with apps nothing has changed and in Odin mode also only status has changed to Custom nothing else.
Mission Accomplished
Kashmir Hackers said:
Hey Buddy guess what? I took the risk and rooted my mobile with Cf Auto Root method and everything went smoothely and when I checked Knox status with apps nothing has changed and in Odin mode also only status has changed to Custom nothing else.
Mission Accomplished
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Glad everything went fine. Enjoy your rooted s3 neo.
mandzo said:
Glad everything went fine. Enjoy your rooted s3 neo.
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You know what after rooting my mobile the first thing I did is to remove the Knox crap from my mobile, they scared me enough but not anymore:good:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
SpaceDye said:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
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Happy to hear that , thanks buddy for letting others know.
SpaceDye said:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
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Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
funchomix said:
Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
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Yep! Your warranty will not be void as long as your device is running a stock rom when you turn it in. You can check your binary counter by going to download mode.
funchomix said:
Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
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If you flash CM 12.1 , it will trip the binary counter but you can always reset the binary counter with the help of Triangle Away App by ChainFire. Resetting the binary counter and then flashing the Stock Rom will restore the warranty of your device.
Kashmir Hackers said:
If you flash CM 12.1 , it will trip the binary counter but you can always reset the binary counter with the help of Triangle Away App by ChainFire. Resetting the binary counter and then flashing the Stock Rom will restore the warranty of your device.
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On this phone KNOX not work and does not tick. 100%
maxxim62 said:
On this phone KNOX not work and does not tick. 100%
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I'm not talking about Knox Counter but I'm talking about Binary Counter which every Samsung phone already have and keeps track of how many times a custom firmware had been flashed. And as far as Knox Security is concerned there is still no way to reset Knox counter but fortunately S3 NEO don't have it.