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Seems there has been a lot of people still speculating despite the fact that confirmed info has been available on the phone for some time. Revision 3 of the white paper details quite a lot of stuff about it and is available here on SE's developer website. You just need to enter the 4 letters to confirm you're a real person and not a robot. Interesting points (either from the white paper or an interview I saw with the phone's dev team and marketing guy:
The phone definitely HAS got proper 3D drivers. I have also seen this confirmed in an interview with the development team.
While built by HTC, the phone is engineered by Sony Ericsson; they designed it themselves apparently, HTC is just the ODM.
No Opera...ships with IE only. BOOOOOOO!
There will be a US and European version of the phone. The US version has 850MHz UMTS while the Euro has the 900MHz band instead. The US version is also crippled in some features (mainly relating to video recording/playback - only records QVGA video at 24fps when Euro does it VGA at 30fps. Also doesn't decode H264) due to some issues with patents in the US.
Comes in 2 colours: black and silver
Has a touch mouse as well as a 4 direction button controller (though sadly there are no arrow keys on the keyboard. If you look at the photos you CAN see a CTRL key though, which is great...finally keyboard shortcuts work!).
Should hit the market end of August or in September, so a bit earlier than was previously thought.
Oh and one more thing. People are commenting from pre-production phones that the panels are slow (sometimes using this to justify that it doesn't have working 3D drivers). This is due to the fact that the panel app is still being worked on and has been in debug mode on the pre-production models, or so I read...when it's compiled properly for the production model it should be much faster.
it's not really new and there have been circulating info about changes since then
Yeah I'm aware of that, just noticed that there were still some people commenting on 3d/lack of 3d drivers in here as late as yesterday so thought I'd better post it...
why i had an impression that the version sold in europe would work fully all around the world and have multiple bands to be able to use umts and everything in europe and US.. i must me mistaken then huh?
Should still work pretty much everywhere, is quad band gsm...it is just not on every band for UMTS...850 is only common in America and Australia (only on Telstra's network) as far as I'm aware...900 is more common elsewhere and will even be coming to Australia eventually I think when they stop using it for GSM...
Xperia X1a, X1c and X1i
Does anyone even knows the difference between Xperia X1a, X1c and X1i?
And if so, does anyone know which of them will be released?
There will be a US and European version of the phone. The US version has 850MHz UMTS while the Euro has the 900MHz band instead. The US version is also crippled in some features (mainly relating to video recording/playback - only records QVGA video at 24fps when Euro does it VGA at 30fps. Also doesn't decode H264) due to some issues with patents in the US.
First i guessed that the x1a was the prototype but they write about stuff like it is better on the x1c then the x1a?
In the white papers they talk about x1a and x1c what they say about x1a sounds like the US version you are talking about and the x1c sounds like the euro version u are talking about.
BTW i havent seen that the phone even has quad-band? Where did u find this info?
Which ones will be available?
And does anyone even knows a release date?
MDA Vario IV (HTC Touch Pro/Raphael) is delayed instead of mid june to 4-8 august since htc did something for this phone i guess the release of this phone is delayed to?
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nobody got anything but guesses
only official word is q4
some say september some say november
X1c is the chinese model.
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i havent seen that the phone even has quad-band? Where did u find this info?
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It is in the white paper (general technical info section).
"Quad-band EDGE
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Tri-band HSPA
•X1a: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•X1c: 900/1900/2100 MHz"
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It is in the white paper (general technical info section).
"Quad-band EDGE
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Tri-band HSPA
•X1a: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•X1c: 900/1900/2100 MHz"
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omfg, really sorry here i think i had just read over it.. i only saw the Tri-band HSPA.. Sorryy again.
Are there reliable specs on the amount of Ram - both included and available? I could see a pre-release device on a road show in june, and it showed only 80 MB Ram installed of which only 19 MB were free. So I guess that the device had really 128 MB on-board. However, 19 MB available Ram is not enough for applications like navigation which require lots of ram for routing purposes.
The Sony guys I talked to could not comment on this - in fact, they were somewhat surprised that anyone would inquire on the Ram on a mobile phone. Obviously they were not yet used to the world of WM6, where the customer is interested in more than just Rom for MP3-storage.
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http://smape.com/en/reviews//Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html
got some nice pictures too
Thanks
Is The Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc Coming to AT&T?
The Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc has recently passed FCC with AT&T bands but, as far as FCC filings are concerned, this doesn't always necessarily mean that one particular smartphone that has been cleared will actually get to that specific operator.
According to a User Agent Profil (UAProf) listing, there's a certain LT15at model from manufacturer Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications. The original Xperia Arc is just LT15a so the addition of "at" at the end of the LT15 codename could indicate an AT&T destination. The bands are definitely there according to FCC.
The smartphone sports a 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 512MB RAM, 4.2-inch 480x854 FWVGA display and a superb eight-megapixel camera with LED flash with the mobile Exmor R backlit image sensor that enables for great image quality capturing.
Source: Sony Ericsson
Via: Blog of Mobile
Initially the arc was bounded for AT&T, however, last I heard was that all LT15a's production was halted and shifted to LT15i due to the tsunami that hit Japan, destroying the main manufacturing facility. The only batch of LT15a made went to Rogers, so I don't know if they'll continue to get the stocks since there's more LT15i demand. All I know is it's very unlikely that it will be released anytime soon. More like Late Q3 or Q4, but by that time....there's going to be something else...
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-specs-ntt-docomo-86272/
First of all, the Japanese version of the S3, codenamed SC-06D, will be powered by a dual-core 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8960 S4 processor. The “Krait” chipset will replace Samsung’s Exynos 4 Quad, set to power the S3’s international model. The main reason behind the substitution is the fact that NTT Docomo will offer Samsung’s new flagship with 4G LTE speeds and, as you may already know, quad core chipsets haven’t played nice with LTE. We suspected that the LTE-versions of the S3 would come with the MSM8960 chipset under their hood and, while it isn’t officially confirmed, we can now be almost certain that the US or Canadian models with 4G speeds will feature the same proc.
The second technical detail that will set the Japanese S3 version apart from the international model is the featuring of 2 GB of RAM. That’s right, ladies and gentlemen, LG’s Optimus LTE2 is no longer the only smartphone to come with 2 GB of RAM and Samsung’s SC-06D could steal the spotlight from the recently unveiled LG phone in Korea.
In terms of software, the Samsung SC-06D will run Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich with TouchWiz 4.0 UI on top, as well as with the “Docomo Palette UI”.
Huh. That would be pretty sweet.
Guess time will tell.
First time I've ever thought I wanted a month to end that much quicker!
why they keep screwing up international versions?
1st that tegra3 garbage on 1x and now 1gb vs 2gb of ram on gs3..
This is most likely the US version then !! S4 + 2GB is nice.
I would take the Exynos over the 2gb of ram any day
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so, are there any US carriers that the japenese version would work on?
Most likely you would be limited to WCDMA connectivity if you privately imported one of these. (Unlocking is not a problem, DoCoMo unlocks brand new phones no question asked, just pony up 3150 yen)
International LTE bands are a total mess. Over 40 unique band allocations at last count.
I am holding onto my SII until the fallout of how similar/different the hardware ends up being with respect to custom rom development gets figured out. (DoCoMo SII was similar enough to the standard I9100 for most roms to be tweaked into working, though there were digital-TV and GPS issues and the partition sizing was a little different)
This is more of a discussion starter than a question. I recently switched from the Galaxy Nexus to the Note II. I love the size, but I desperately miss the beauty and compatibility my nexus had with AOSP. It just isn't there with the Note II development. Consequently, I'm REALLY rooting for T-Mobile to get the Togari Phablet when it is released.
From my understanding, Sony devices are pretty dang close to nexus devices with the code they release. Ergo, this may be the closest we can get to a nexus phablet for quite some time. I do expect Google to eventually split the nexus phone line into a phablet and more traditional size phone, but that could be a year or two away.
Poke_N_PDA said:
This is more of a discussion starter than a question. I recently switched from the Galaxy Nexus to the Note II. I love the size, but I desperately miss the beauty and compatibility my nexus had with AOSP. It just isn't there with the Note II development. Consequently, I'm REALLY rooting for T-Mobile to get the Togari Phablet when it is released.
From my understanding, Sony devices are pretty dang close to nexus devices with the code they release. Ergo, this may be the closest we can get to a nexus phablet for quite some time. I do expect Google to eventually split the nexus phone line into a phablet and more traditional size phone, but that could be a year or two away.
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I don't see any reason to wait if Carrier X will carry Device Y.
When the device is released, just go and buy it. Carrier branded devices are inferior and very expensive since there is a contract involved or an installment plan in the case of T-Mobile.
So just buy the Togari when it is released. To me, it is downright funny with all those people that asks "will Carrier X sell this device?" or "I hope that carrier X will bring this device in". To me, being dependent on a carrier is just an abnormal behavior. If an interesting device is released somewhere in the world, I just buy it provided that it works with my SIM card.
I look forward to the Togari and if it is really good, I will consider selling the Xperia Z in order to get it.
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I don't see any reason to wait if Carrier X will carry Device Y.
When the device is released, just go and buy it. Carrier branded devices are inferior and very expensive since there is a contract involved or an installment plan in the case of T-Mobile.
So just buy the Togari when it is released. To me, it is downright funny with all those people that asks "will Carrier X sell this device?" or "I hope that carrier X will bring this device in". To me, being dependent on a carrier is just an abnormal behavior. If an interesting device is released somewhere in the world, I just buy it provided that it works with my SIM card.
I look forward to the Togari and if it is really good, I will consider selling the Xperia Z in order to get it.
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I feel you. I don't care about if it's got T-Mobile's logo. I just want the frequencies to be right to get decent data speeds. I bought the AT&T Note 2 instead of the T-Mobile because the Wireless Charging pins worked on AT&Ts.
For the frequencies to work, I think we'll likely need to see an official T-Mobile release. US Unlocked versions are becoming more popular, but they are still limited. Given the variety of the major four carriers, how only two are GSM, and those two use mostly different freqs for data, It's hard to "Just go buy the phone" as you state.
I don´t think it is hard to buy a phone outright today. The Xperia Z C6602 offers pentaband and works perfect on both AT&T and T-Mobile. There´s no need for a T-Mobile branded device - all it takes is pentaband.
I know the carrier mess in the country but there are many options and since I am used to the way the system works in the EU, I apply the same standards here. I have owned two carrier branded device in my life and won´t allow a third one to enter. My experience with the Vodafone K700i and Verizon Thunderbolt has put me off.
I am pretty sure that Togari will arrive with pentaband since Xperia Z offers it.
When it comes LTE, it is a no go to me as long as it is connected with carrier branding and a lack of compatibility between EU/US frequencies. The lack of VoLTE is another dealbreaker. I will get it when there is a VoLTE device that is unlocked and works on both sides of the Atlantic ocean. Until that happens, I will use HSPA+ on unlocked pentaband products.
I wrote this in another comment on branded devices:
Use a credit card instead but even better, do the simple math:
Carrier branded device: $99 down payment (depends on the credit rating).
Monthly bill: (Unlimited data) $70 per month
Taxes and fees: $10-20 per month
Monthly installment: $20 per month
Total monthly cost: $100-110 (depending on the regulatory taxes and fees)
Total cost for the device (provided that 24 months of installment is selected):
$99 + $100-110/month x 24 = $2499-2740 (depending on the taxes).
You can trim this by buying it outright and put T-Mobile prepaid on.
Then we have the method I always use:
Unlocked Xperia Z: $599
Monthly cost: $30-49 per month (T-Mobile prepaid $30 plan, Straight Talk (T-Mobile) or Solavei (T-Mobile)
Taxes and fees: $0
Monthly installment: $0
Total monthly cost: $30-49
Total cost during 24 months: $1319-1775
Savings: $965-1180
Don't tell me that a carrier branded device is "cheaper" than the unbranded, unlocked version and please don't complain about device costs when you are ready to sign away $2499-2740 when the alternative saves you approximately $1000.
I don't get people that complain about buying a device unlocked when they are ready sign away a huge amount of money. The same people seem to understand that computers don't cost $99 and then $100 in Internet Service or that TV sets are $199 paired with minimum cable package of $75. They can buy a computer for $699 or a TV set for $699 without complaining. But when it comes to a smartphone, it is a lot of moan and gritting teeth when the price tag says $599 so they prefer to pay $2499 for it instead since they are forced to sign a contract.
T-Mobile don't do contracts any more, I know that perfectly well but the fact remains: a T-Mobile branded device with 24 months of installments paired with service cost a lot more than the unlocked edition.
To me, $2499 and more is way too expensive for a smartphone so I always opt for the cheap route and buy it unlocked. I got a superior device, no carrier bloatware at all, no carrier branding at all, updates straight from the manufacturer, unlockable bootloader (for the Xperia Z) and everything the way Sony intended.
So buying a T-Mobile Xperia Z and truly believing that it is "cheaper" is a less optimum action. But it is obviously not my money, those that want to give $1000+ to a carrier are free to do so. We live in a free world.
But they should not even try to claim that those extra $1000 somehow is a "cheaper" deal. It is like claiming that $10 is more than $20 ($20 is 5 + 1 x 15 in this case).
I prefer to have $1000 in my wallet rather than giving them to a carrier and then "enjoying" branding, bloatware and locked bootloaders.
As I wrote, I wonder how people can buy a new computer, a car, a TV etc without subsidies but when it comes to a phone, then it is disaster to pay $599 and a cheap monthly plan when you can pay $1000 more just in order to think that "I paid only $99 for the device, it is cheaper than $599!"
E90 Commie said:
I don't see any reason to wait if Carrier X will carry Device Y.
When the device is released, just go and buy it. Carrier branded devices are inferior and very expensive since there is a contract involved or an installment plan in the case of T-Mobile.
So just buy the Togari when it is released. To me, it is downright funny with all those people that asks "will Carrier X sell this device?" or "I hope that carrier X will bring this device in". To me, being dependent on a carrier is just an abnormal behavior. If an interesting device is released somewhere in the world, I just buy it provided that it works with my SIM card.
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Whenever I return to the US I'm always astounded at how the carriers can ruin a phone - all the way back to the original Moto Razrs... It makes me feel sorry for the majority US phone customers who accept what the carriers give them actually have no idea what the phone manufacturer intended with the device.
colacin said:
Whenever I return to the US I'm always astounded at how the carriers can ruin a phone - all the way back to the original Moto Razrs... It makes me feel sorry for the majority US phone customers who accept what the carriers give them actually have no idea what the phone manufacturer intended with the device.
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At least now on T-Mobile we can get plans where we aren't losing money by bringing our own phone. That can't be said for the other carriers meaning there is a significant added cost to buying unlocked handsets (higher monthly rates caused by subsidy payback). Additionally, if we want working HSPA+ and LTE (3G/4G), 95% of the time we can't use unlocked handsets or at least can't use them to the network's fullest potential.
For instance, the C6602 Xperia Z doesn't work perfectly. Here are the frequencies.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and HSPA Bands 850/1900/2100
AT&T uses 1900 for HSPA+, but T-Mobile is actively refarming this frequency and it's coverage for it is low. It's main HSPA+ is on AWS 1700/2100 which doesn't work on this phone. Meanwhile, it lacks LTE all together. Additionally, the C6603 that does have LTE doesn't work on either AT&T or T-Mobile's bands.
With a few exceptions (like the Nexus 4), unlocked devices aren't made for the US because of the carrier lock down and subsidization business model. However that does look to be changing. We are starting to get unlocked US devices (the HTC one for example). However, it's a slow process. So my point is, it's not simple at all. If it was, I would be doing it.
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With a few exceptions (like the Nexus 4), unlocked devices aren't made for the US because of the carrier lock down and subsidization business model. However that does look to be changing. We are starting to get unlocked US devices (the HTC one for example). However, it's a slow process. So my point is, it's not simple at all. If it was, I would be doing it.
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Well, the devices themselves would work fine if given a chance to- it's the carriers who are the problems. After being in Singapore for such a long time where carriers are prohibited from selling locked handsets, visiting the US makes the whole system there seem a bit archaic.
I don't really know how the carriers here do it, since the cost of the phone (to the consumer) is about the same, and the monthly plan is usually cheaper.
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Well, the devices themselves would work fine if given a chance to- it's the carriers who are the problems. After being in Singapore for such a long time where carriers are prohibited from selling locked handsets, visiting the US makes the whole system there seem a bit archaic.
I don't really know how the carriers here do it, since the cost of the phone (to the consumer) is about the same, and the monthly plan is usually cheaper.
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yeah. I'm just REALLY hoping T-Mobile's plans catch on so the other carriers adopt it. If that happens, prices will drop like crazy, just like it did for tablets. If you are an American consumer who wants change in the mobile industry, the best thing you can do right now is switch to T-Mobile.
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At least now on T-Mobile we can get plans where we aren't losing money by bringing our own phone. That can't be said for the other carriers meaning there is a significant added cost to buying unlocked handsets (higher monthly rates caused by subsidy payback). Additionally, if we want working HSPA+ and LTE (3G/4G), 95% of the time we can't use unlocked handsets or at least can't use them to the network's fullest potential.
For instance, the C6602 Xperia Z doesn't work perfectly. Here are the frequencies.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and HSPA Bands 850/1900/2100
AT&T uses 1900 for HSPA+, but T-Mobile is actively refarming this frequency and it's coverage for it is low. It's main HSPA+ is on AWS 1700/2100 which doesn't work on this phone. Meanwhile, it lacks LTE all together. Additionally, the C6603 that does have LTE doesn't work on either AT&T or T-Mobile's bands.
With a few exceptions (like the Nexus 4), unlocked devices aren't made for the US because of the carrier lock down and subsidization business model. However that does look to be changing. We are starting to get unlocked US devices (the HTC one for example). However, it's a slow process. So my point is, it's not simple at all. If it was, I would be doing it.
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The specifications for the C6602 says (taken from GSM Arena):
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - C6602
The Xperia C 6602 is fully capable of working on T-Mobile even in non-refarmed areas. I tried a SpeedTest on that carrier with my C6602 and got decent speeds.
Then I don't see the point of having LTE in the US just yet. To me, it is only useful if the data plan includes 10 GB or more. 2 GB of LTE data is just not interesting at all since no high quality streaming can be used, especially not if there is a desire to be able to browse the Internet etc.
To me, the most logical option in the US is to buy an unlocked phone and put a prepaid card in since the postpaid plans are just ridiculous. $100 per month for a basic plan is just insane but is the result of the carrier pretending to be a manufacturer (altering devices, buying a huge batch of them, support, recovery of subsidies etc). It is very naive when people believe that it is the "quality" that cost extra. No, it is not the quality but a disastrous business model.
To me, there's no doubt that having a postpaid contract in the US is just a waste of money when an unlocked, unbranded device with a prepaid card offers a superior deal. My experience of postpaid is simply that not even Verizon can be compared with a carrier like 3 in Sweden. When the monthly bill is included in the judgment, it is evident that prepaid and unlocked is the way to go.
For those that are using T-Mobile, their prepaid plans or one of the MVNOs (Straight Talk, Solavei) offers a better deal - especially with an unlocked, unbranded device.
It has been easy for me to ditch the contract and switch over to the unlocked, prepaid route but I am used to that model from Europe. Even if the market conditions in the US is very bad, there are still solutions available so the reasons to stick to postpaid are very limited. And no, 2 GB of LTE data doesn't change that.
I would even say that I rather use EDGE on an unlocked phone rather than LTE with a carrier branded one. To me, branding and $100 monthly bills are such a huge drawback that 2 GB of LTE data just can't compensate. On the same way I rather use a decent computer on a slow Internet connection than an inferior one on a fast connection.
Fortunately, it is possible to get perfectly good HSPA+ data from the MVNOs.
Poke_N_PDA said:
At least now on T-Mobile we can get plans where we aren't losing money by bringing our own phone. That can't be said for the other carriers meaning there is a significant added cost to buying unlocked handsets (higher monthly rates caused by subsidy payback). Additionally, if we want working HSPA+ and LTE (3G/4G), 95% of the time we can't use unlocked handsets or at least can't use them to the network's fullest potential.
For instance, the C6602 Xperia Z doesn't work perfectly. Here are the frequencies.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and HSPA Bands 850/1900/2100
AT&T uses 1900 for HSPA+, but T-Mobile is actively refarming this frequency and it's coverage for it is low. It's main HSPA+ is on AWS 1700/2100 which doesn't work on this phone. Meanwhile, it lacks LTE all together. Additionally, the C6603 that does have LTE doesn't work on either AT&T or T-Mobile's bands.
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Yeah as noted above me that is incorrect info. The C6602 works just fine on T-Mobile HSPA+
C6602
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
But the C6606 is coming soon and will be exclusive.
As for the Togari Sep/Oct US release unlocked.
Is "Togari" just an internal codename or has Sony run out of letters?
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Is "Togari" just an internal codename or has Sony run out of letters?
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Internal code name
Spectre51 said:
Yeah as noted above me that is incorrect info. The C6602 works just fine on T-Mobile HSPA+
C6602
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
But the C6606 is coming soon and will be exclusive.
As for the Togari Sep/Oct US release unlocked.
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Well, I cut and pasted that info from Amazon.com. So it's only as accurate as that. Good to know Sony is one of the few who offer proper freqs.
Hopefully though T-Mobile's open nature will increase our unlocked offerings. Specifically, I bet the Motorola X will be available. Also, if the Xperia Z is I bet the Togari will be too.
So, back to point of the thread, do people agree that Sony devices work about as well as nexus devices for AOSP roms?
Hello, XDA-Developers Members. Many people want to import Note 20 Ultra from USA or HK to UK. And I'm one of them who bought from USA. And I had question will it work in UK (Most will be interested to know about 5G)? Maybe this thread is useless but I'm trying to help make a decision.
What Bands uses UK:
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Operator: EE
LTE Bands: 3(1800MHz), 7(2600MHz), 20(800MHz), 1(2100MHz), 38(2600MHz)
5G Band: N78 (3500MHz)
Virtual Operators: 1pMobile, Asda Mobile, BT Mobile, CMLink, CO-OP Mobile, CTExcel, Ecotalk, IQ Mobile, Orange, Plusnet Mobile, RWG Mobile, T-Mobile, Utility Warehouse, Vectone Mobile, Virgin Mobile (Some using 5G)
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Operator: O2
LTE Bands: 20(800MHz), 1(2100MHz), 3(1800MHz), 8(900MHz), 40(2300MHz)
5G Band: N40, N78 (3500MHz)
Virtual Operators: CUniq, Giffgaff, Lycamobile, Sky Mobile, Tesco Mobile (Some using 5G)
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Operator: Three
LTE Bands: 3(1800MHz), 20(800MHz), 1(2100MHz), 32(1500MHz)
5G Band: N78 (3500MHz) & (3700MHz)
Virtual Operators: Honest Mobile, ID Mobile, Smarty Superdrug Mobile (Some using 5G)
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Operator: Vodafone
LTE Bands: 7(2600MHz), 20(800MHz), 1(2100MHz), 3(1800MHz), 8(900MHz), 32(1500MHz), 38(2600MHz)
5G Band: N78 (3500MHz)
Virtual Operators: Lebara, Talkmobile, TalkTalk Mobile, Virgin Mobile, VOXI (Some using 5G)
What Bands uses USA:
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mmWave Spectrum 5G:
n260 band (based on 37GHz to 40GHz frequencies) -- used by Verizon Wireless, AT&T, T-Mobile
n261 (27.5GHz to 28.35GHz) -- used by Verizon Wireless, AT&T, T-Mobile
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Mid-band 5G spectrum:
n41 (2500MHz) -- used by Sprint in the past, now used by new T-Mobile
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Low-band 5G spectrum:
n71 (600MHz) used extensively by T-Mobile
n5 (850MHz) used by AT&T
What Bands uses Hong Kong:
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Operator: CMHK
5G Band: N78(3400MHz – 3460 MHz), N79(4840MHz – 4880 MHz)
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Operator: HKT
5G Band: N78(3460MHz – 3510 MHz), N79(4880MHz – 4920 MHz)
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Operator: SmarTone
5G Band: N78(3510MHz – 3560 MHz)
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Operator: HTCL
5G Band: N78(3560MHz – 3600 MHz)
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Not verified:
n257(26.55GHz – 27.75 GHz) and n261(27.95GHz – 28.35 GHz)
Thanks for sharing
This is perfect. Currently looking at buying from Ultraonlineuk (Hong Kong variant) and it's good to see that N78 is used in HK; 5g isn't in my area yet it should be in the next 3 years. Have you noticed any features that don't work on your US handset? I'm not expecting Samsung pay to work, but I don't like it as much as Google pay anyway.
Also, N78 doesn't perfectly match between UK and HK, is this a problem? (I know very little about signal bands, but would assume that there is a tolerance range?)
This is very interesting, has anybody actually done this and what where the problems.
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This is very interesting, has anybody actually done this and what where the problems.
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I've ordered the n9860 model which is Snapdragon. I'll let you know how it goes once it arrives from Hong Kong. The main feature that I know won't work is Samsung Pay, but that's fine as long as android pay works.
Currently the price from HK is £700 for a new handset, so as well as faster, better battery etc, it's also cheaper.
Thanks, will keep an eye open for any replies.
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Thanks, will keep an eye open for any replies.
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A bit of further digging shows that VoLTE may not work in the UK; this seems to be a software bug, as the N10+ had this issue and was eventually patched. The discussions on this are a few months old, so it may have been solved by now.
UltraOnlineUK has just issued a refund as they don't have any stock and their supplier hasn't got an ETA on it. So far my impression of them has been good, they've responded to all my emails before and after purchase within 48h, and if you pay with paypal you get buyers protection (and pay in 3).
My review of them is that they seem legit (but worth using Paypal to be safe), and take "in stock" with a grain of salt.
Now ordering from WondaMobile, which has a very good reputation, and hopefully should arrive by next Friday. WIll update this when I receive the handset and test everything out.
Thanks for the update mate, will see what happens with you, I'm an OAP and can't afford to be messed around, I agree hat both sites look legit, please keep us updated, the N20U is a great phone but the battery life stinks.
Cheers, Pete
Ordered my N9860 from Bludiode UK - was smooth experience overall, delivered to Middle East reasonably quick, and I would use them again.
Phone arrived (shipped Monday arrived Wednesday) - definitely new. So far I've not had any problems with the phone. I get better 4g signal than I did with my A71, and everything seems to work. I've not had the chance to test 5g because it's not in my area, and I don't use Samsung pay but will try setting up a card and test it at the weekend.
I was able to install "Samsung pay (Hong Kong Version)" which was in English as that was the language set up on the phone. I was able to log in, but It may be that it won't work over here.
I ran geekbench 5, and it scored higher than their benchmark for Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon, I'm sure if I ran multiple tests it would probably average out as the same, but it's good to see everything is as described.
Just updating to say the battery life is great! My A71 had the same size battery (4500) but I'd be charging it half way through the day. Today the N20U had 7h screen on time, and still has 27% left going to bed. (14h+ since last charge)
Thanks for keeping us updated, they are currently awaiting new stock, but I will have to wait, our car may have a terminal problem, which could cost a lot of cash.
How has the purchase been, any problems? Is English OK on it, and did it have a factory screen protector, etc.
Gamric said:
How has the purchase been, any problems? Is English OK on it, and did it have a factory screen protector, etc.
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You are prompted to select a language at setup, the only app that I've seen any other language was Samsung pay (which I don't use) which was still mostly English
I've not seen any language but English since the first day of use.
It didn't have a factory screen protector on it (it's a region specific thing I believe)
Purchase was so easy; I used PayPal for protection, ordered Friday night, got tracking link Sunday at midnight (8am HK time). Arrived Wednesday via FedEx.
I've had slower amazon deliveries.
Edit: it came factory sealed with the usual accessories (fast charger, earphones and clear tpu case)
Dh279 said:
You are prompted to select a language at setup, the only app that I've seen any other language was Samsung pay (which I don't use) which was still mostly English
I've not seen any language but English since the first day of use.
It didn't have a factory screen protector on it (it's a region specific thing I believe)
Purchase was so easy; I used PayPal for protection, ordered Friday night, got tracking link Sunday at midnight (8am HK time). Arrived Wednesday via FedEx.
I've had slower amazon deliveries.
Edit: it came factory sealed with the usual accessories (fast charger, earphones)
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Gamric said:
How has the purchase been, any problems? Is English OK on it, and did it have a factory screen protector, etc.
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I should probably add that I don't know if 5g works because it's not in my area.
Battery life is great, I can just about get it to the end of a day when on high refresh rate, but now mostly keep the device in battery saver because I drive a lot and end up with high (8h+) screen on time. This does not have a noticeable impact to performance either (as far as I can tell)
It definitely lasts a lot better than my old A71 which on paper had the same battery size.
If there's anything else you've been wondering let me know
Thanks for your reply, much appreciated. Just hope getting our car repaired doesn't empty the bank. Thanks again.