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Hi everyone -
Based on some of the reports out there, such as the Boy Genius review, it sounds like the US (CDMA) version has some improvements over the GSM version, specifically the build quality of the slider and a better keyboard. I'm in the US but want the GSM version (I use AT&T) and am thinking of getting an import.
Given the delay in availablility, my guess is the US/CDMA version was designed and built after the GSM version, so they may have made some production tweaks. Anyone know if those same tweaks are showing up in the GSM model? If not I may just get the CDMA model, even with that stupid attached flappy thing.
Thanks!
Mike
landshark said:
Hi everyone -
Based on some of the reports out there, such as the Boy Genius review, it sounds like the US (CDMA) version has some improvements over the GSM version, specifically the build quality of the slider and a better keyboard. I'm in the US but want the GSM version (I use AT&T) and am thinking of getting an import.
Given the delay in availablility, my guess is the US/CDMA version was designed and built after the GSM version, so they may have made some production tweaks. Anyone know if those same tweaks are showing up in the GSM model? If not I may just get the CDMA model, even with that stupid attached flappy thing.
Thanks!
Mike
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i suggest u wait because even if they are producing gsm shifts with the new improvments then it will take a while till they trickle down to the shops. plus the wait will also allow the price to go down.
Pawel062 said:
i suggest u wait because even if they are producing gsm shifts with the new improvments then it will take a while till they trickle down to the shops. plus the wait will also allow the price to go down.
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have you ever seen the price of HTC product lowering down ?
I wish the shift could get the price lowered ... will see !
koala996 said:
have you ever seen the price of HTC product lowering down ?
I wish the shift could get the price lowered ... will see !
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yes but i ment on the online shops. the touch cruise used to be over 800 new. not its about 700 new. shift will be same. u might see it soon going on ebay for about 1400-1500.
WAIT???? But I want it NOW!!!!
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Thanks for the replies! Yeah, I know I should wait, but I was hoping someone would say all was well and the changes had already trickled down. If I wait, I'll probably end up with an Asus EEE 900.....<grin>
Mike
Why wait?
If you want one now, just get it.
And get the one you want, the GSM model.
A few weeks ago (at the UMPC Portal meeting after CeBIT) I had a chance to hold and play a little with a UK model (what you'd probably go for).
This was the most solidly built UMPC (actually, the Asus R2E felt similar but is a completely different type) that I had layed hands on yet (and on that day I held quite a few) and I can't imagine that any improvements that they might or might not have made to the CDMA model would really be significant. The sliding mechanism worked very well, although I must admit you needed both hands to close it. To me this is no issue taking the size of the Shift into account. It is not a 3" phone that I'd expect to operate with one hand. With the way I would use the Shift in mind I actually prefer it to be a little "sturdier".
If the sliding mechanism on the CDMA model in the review really was more "loose", this could also point to production variations or some people probably would even interprete this as an (insignificantly) lower build quality oft that version .
If you should be interested in an opinion of the build quality of the German version (released last week), wait another day, I will pick MY Shift up from the post office tomorrow.
By the way, something else to consider: The GSM model does not have the case bolted on. It is really ridiculous that somebody at the FCC thought this would protect users from too much radiation Probably HTC should add a roll of aluminum foil to the package - one can make wonderful hats from that
Completely agree with the last post. My Shift is very sturdy and build quality is superb, sliding action is firm but smooth, just how you'd want it.
landshark said:
Hi everyone -
Based on some of the reports out there, such as the Boy Genius review, it sounds like the US (CDMA) version has some improvements over the GSM version, specifically the build quality of the slider and a better keyboard. I'm in the US but want the GSM version (I use AT&T) and am thinking of getting an import.
Given the delay in availablility, my guess is the US/CDMA version was designed and built after the GSM version, so they may have made some production tweaks. Anyone know if those same tweaks are showing up in the GSM model? If not I may just get the CDMA model, even with that stupid attached flappy thing.
Thanks!
Mike
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I talked to tech support today about an wifi issue. I have an import gsm
He told me in May the shift will be in US in both cdma and a unlocked gsm version. He had a unlocked gsm US version himself while on the phone with me.
Also said the US gsm version has an updated ROM than what my import gsm version has and includes telanav on both the cdma and gsm.
will not have a built in gps reciever, will triangulate position off cell towers
Ok, so all the rumors have said that the black Xperia x1a will come out today through bestbuy. Does anyone have any updates as to if it is or when it is? I have searched the internet for hours and have seen nothing about it yet. Any information will help...my parents are pressuring me to give them a date so I can get it for christmas, if not it's going to be a lot longer.
i got mine from www.addictedtophones.com there are in stock right now. only thing is that its an x1i not x1a.
bruce bruce said:
i got mine from www.addictedtophones.com there are in stock right now. only thing is that its an x1i not x1a.
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Yeah the only problem with that is that I just really really want the x1a for the G3
bruce bruce said:
i got mine from www.addictedtophones.com there are in stock right now. only thing is that its an x1i not x1a.
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Ok, I just called them and they said that I does work with the 3g the same as the x1a does...is true? The guy I talked to said that even his brother has one and it works with the 3g. If this is the case than why in the world would anyone want the x1a over the x1i? and this website even comes with a purchasable extended warranty and a free 4gb card?!?! And It also has the better video recording capabilities....I really need advice about this to anyone who can answer!
X1i does not support 850 MHz 3G, (even there is an option to choose that).
So if your carrier has some (or all) areas of their 3G service on the 850 MHz, then you're back down to EDGE speed only.
Additionally, I don't think Call Display works on the X1i in North America. I called my X1i from my home number (which I know for a fact sends out a name/number Call Display), and all it showed my on my XPERIA is the phone number (and yes, my cell phone plan does include Call Display).
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X1i does not support 850 MHz 3G, (even there is an option to choose that).
So if your carrier has some (or all) areas of their 3G service on the 850 MHz, then you're back down to EDGE speed only.
Additionally, I don't think Call Display works on the X1i in North America. I called my X1i from my home number (which I know for a fact sends out a name/number Call Display), and all it showed my on my XPERIA is the phone number (and yes, my cell phone plan does include Call Display).
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Very interesting, thanks!
.....I have Call Display on my X1i, just no Name Display.
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X1i does not support 850 MHz 3G, (even there is an option to choose that).
So if your carrier has some (or all) areas of their 3G service on the 850 MHz, then you're back down to EDGE speed only.
Additionally, I don't think Call Display works on the X1i in North America. I called my X1i from my home number (which I know for a fact sends out a name/number Call Display), and all it showed my on my XPERIA is the phone number (and yes, my cell phone plan does include Call Display).
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do you meant caller ID? Do you have your home number stored on you sim card? when you call your X1i does it say "home"?
So is there still no news from anyone on this matter? I really don't know how much longer I can take lol.
A guy over at xperiax1.net's forum said that BestBuy would have it the 21st, but I don't know if its false or true, here is the link: http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/xperia-x1/2211-best-buy-update.html
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A guy over at xperiax1.net's forum said that BestBuy would have it the 21st, but I don't know if its false or true, here is the link: http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/xperia-x1/2211-best-buy-update.html
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Wow, Thanks dude I really appreciate the link. This gives me something to hold on to until it is released. I have been waiting since august lol. Thanks again!
I wanted the black X1a too, but guys, sorry but it is not available yet *anywhere*
We will have to wait
PS: I can absolutely positively 100% CONFIRM that I only get 850MHz EDGE on my X1i.
I have even flashed the X1A's ROM and still EDGE only...
I can't stand EDGE after having tryed HSDPA... I have ordered a silver X1a in the meantime, and I'll paint it black
Well, still no x1ablack on bestbuy.com does anyone else have any possible information on when this will be released... the wait is killing me and I'm considering just getting the silver one.
to be frank........... i'm seriously considering that the xperia has been discontinued and is a project left hanging. especially after how they terminated their cooperation with htc long ago..... it's dead. no official firmware/rom updates for months already....... there's nothing.
defunct. i feel very betrayed by sony ericsson. total loss of respect.
^ is that true? damn.. that sucks. i'm guessing SE will just stick with Symbian UIQ3 then? no more SE Windows mobile devices in the future?
that kinda sucks especially with the release of a more finger-friendly windows mobile coming out which would be great for their next xperia phone.
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A guy over at xperiax1.net's forum said that BestBuy would have it the 21st, but I don't know if its false or true, here is the link: http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/xperia-x1/2211-best-buy-update.html
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Yay! I'm glad I could be of help. Let me see if I can clear up this issue here.
BestBuy has the X1a in stock, the upsetting thing is, that as of right now, their may never be a black X1a. I haven't heard anything of the contrary yet, but it is possible, just not likely. They launched the black and silver X1i at the same time and I don't see a single reason why they would be holding the black X1a back right now.
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^ is that true? damn.. that sucks. i'm guessing SE will just stick with Symbian UIQ3 then? no more SE Windows mobile devices in the future?
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Nope it's a load of bull. SE always take forever to release a firmware upgrade (which is odd, as their quality control on the updates is never great).
SE have announced that they will be using someone else for the NEXT Xperia. This DOESN'T mean that they have stopped making more X1s. This DOESN'T mean that HTC aren't working with them on the firmware for the X1. This DOESN'T mean that SE won't be making more WM phones.
I've had the X1a in black ever since it came out back in november 2008. Bought from a local vendor although mine came with spanish language, then when you get it just flash the rom with an english one.
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I've had the X1a in black ever since it came out back in november 2008. Bought from a local vendor although mine came with spanish language, then when you get it just flash the rom with an english one.
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The X1a is a North American version of the phone, pretty sure it's English only.
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The X1a is a North American version of the phone, pretty sure it's English only.
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Oh yeah? Good thing I always keep my boxes and manuals (for resale purposes). See attached shots, all documentation boxing came in spanish as well as the original rom. Remember X1a's 850MHz band is not only used in North America, but all throughout the Americas in general, I'm using 3G in Panama.
I was looking into buying a new HD. Obviously I like the idea of 3G but it's simply not going to happen.
When I was reading, apparently the Austrailian version has the necc. frequencies.
So, I started looking at the Aussie version and found out that not only does it have 192 of ram compared to 512 of the Euro version, it also has only 4'ish hours of talktime compared to 6 hours of the Euro.
Guess I'm going to deal with having Edge.
Mark
Go to pdadb.net for hd spec http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1469
192mb -- user accessible ram
288mb-- total ram
512-- rom (storage memory 2xx avaiable to user)
talktime-- depends on what network you use gsm(standart) or 3g (hispeed)
orangecrush said:
I was looking into buying a new HD. Obviously I like the idea of 3G but it's simply not going to happen.
When I was reading, apparently the Austrailian version has the necc. frequencies.
So, I started looking at the Aussie version and found out that not only does it have 192 of ram compared to 512 of the Euro version, it also has only 4'ish hours of talktime compared to 6 hours of the Euro.
Guess I'm going to deal with having Edge.
Mark
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There is no "Australian version". As far as HTC is concerned, they did not even have any intention to sell it in Australia, according to someone I contacted. Later, for some reason, Telstra is selling it although Telstra is the only guy in town having 850 3G network which HD does not even support. How strange is that? May be Telstra has signed an exclusive deal to prevent the other carrier from selling it???
All the so-called Australian sellers are brining in stock from Hong Kong and China.
I just did a speedtest at
www.ozspeedtest.com
I have Virgin 3G
With Opera 9.5beta
iinet mirror Melb From Syd
600kb file
and got
time 7.06
linespeed 692kbps
download 86 kbps
Not doubting what you're saying but here's a quote from an Aussie vendor.
Product Specifications
HTC Touch 3G
• Size: 102 x 53.6 x 14.5 mm
• Weight: 96g
• Connectivity: GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz & WCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps
• HSDPA 7.2 Mbps
• Software/Operating system: HTC TouchFLO with Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
• Display: 2.8 inch QVGA screen
• Camera: 3.2 megapixel
• Internal memory: 256 MB flash; 192 MB RAM
• Memory card: microSD™
• Bluetooth®: 2.0 with EDR
• GPS: GPS/AGPS
• Interface: HTC ExtUSB™ (mini-USB and audio jack in one; USB 2.0 High-Speed)
• Battery: 1100 mAh
• Talk time: WCDMA: Up to 360 minutes*** / GSM: Up to 400 minutes***
• Standby time: WCDMA: Up to 450 hours*** / GSM: Up to 365 hours***
• Chipset: Qualcomm® MSM7225™ 528 MHz
Just curious why this is different from all the other ones I've read about.
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There is no "Australian version". As far as HTC is concerned, they did not even have any intention to sell it in Australia, according to someone I contacted. Later, for some reason, Telstra is selling it although Telstra is the only guy in town having 850 3G network which HD does not even support. How strange is that? May be Telstra has signed an exclusive deal to prevent the other carrier from selling it???
All the so-called Australian sellers are brining in stock from Hong Kong and China.
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Not doubting what you're saying but here's a quote from an Aussie vendor.
Product Specifications
HTC Touch 3G
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Just curious why this is different from all the other ones I've read about.
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The Touch 3G is very different from the Touch HD
eaglesteve said:
There is no "Australian version". As far as HTC is concerned, they did not even have any intention to sell it in Australia, according to someone I contacted. Later, for some reason, Telstra is selling it although Telstra is the only guy in town having 850 3G network which HD does not even support.
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Bahahaha! You better tell that to my blackstone here infront of me running on Telstras 850Mhz NextG network.
It must be a bad blackstone supporting frequencies it's not meant to! Bad Blackstone!
Although...it does say on the box 850/2100HSDPA with 512MB Rom and 288MB Ram. It's also the T8285 unlike the original Blackstone the T8282.
Maybe I just picked up a freak of the litter? Or maybe they do have an Australian version
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Bahahaha! You better tell that to my blackstone here infront of me running on Telstras 850Mhz NextG network.
It must be a bad blackstone supporting frequencies it's not meant to! Bad Blackstone!
Although...it does say on the box 850/2100HSDPA with 512MB Rom and 288MB Ram. It's also the T8285 unlike the original Blackstone the T8282.
Maybe I just picked up a freak of the litter? Or maybe they do have an Australian version
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Well, if what you say is true, then it means that our friends in US would have 3G since many of them are on 850 HSDPA. It would be one of the best kept secrets on Blackstone.
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Well, if what you say is true, then it means that our friends in US would have 3G since many of them are on 850 HSDPA.
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Well it's true
It would be one of the best kept secrets on Blackstone.
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Not really. There are atleast two threads on this very forum regarding the Telstra version of the Blackstone.
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Well it's true
Not really. There are atleast two threads on this very forum regarding the Telstra version of the Blackstone.
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Really? I have missed reading them. Thanks for the info.
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Really? I have missed reading them. Thanks for the info.
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No worries. I was annoyed when the Blackstone was first announced with Euro 3G bands, and not 850Mhz because I wanted on on NextG! Now that's happened, I'm stoked!.
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No worries. I was annoyed when the Blackstone was first announced with Euro 3G bands, and not 850Mhz because I wanted on on NextG! Now that's happened, I'm stoked!.
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This sounds like good news for the US customers.
BTW what download speed are you getting from the NEXT G network?
According to
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Versions
the model number is different and the radio and rom are different too
k6076199 said:
According to
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Versions
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Whoever put the info for the radio has stuffed up. They've put the Rom version info in as the Radio version.
I can assure you that the Telstra Touch HD comes with radio 1. 10. 25. 25 / 52. 57. 25. 30U exactly the same as the latest one in the Euro versions of the Touch HD.
Okay. That was odd.
I just reinstalled the Telstra Rom Upgrade, and after rebooting the red numbers said the radio was 1.10.25.25/52.57.25.30H (H instead of a U). Now after the customisations installed and the phone rebooted it's showing the normal 1.10.25.25/52.57.25.30U (U instead of a H).
Hi guys... after returning my Tmo Tab a couple of weeks ago, I still occasionally do searches for tablets with phone capabilities and lo and behold... I found one tonight. It's called the Kinpad I600...
Shanzai.com did a favorable reivew...
http://www.shanzai.com/market-mayhe...he-7-kinpad-i600-tablet-or-is-it-a-phone.html
It's $399 through merimobiles.com ... a website that is well-reviewed from US buyers.
This page lists the specs (altho it does not have a USB port as is listed here)
http://www.merimobiles.com/Kinpad_I600_7_Android_2_2_Flash_10_1_Capacitive_p/meri0540.htm
It is Android 2.2... merimobiles reports it will get 2.3 update.... and uses these radios:
Built in 3G WCDMA UMTS/HSDPA (2100MHz), GSM/EDGE (850,900,1800,1900MHz)
Merimobiles is sold out now, but they are supposed to be in stock at the end of December.
It has a 1024x600 capacitive screen, front-facing camera, 30-pin processor out, 4200 mAh battery, and a Freescale IMX515 800MHz ARM Cortex A8 processor.
I'd appreciate your thoughts... I'm thinking it looks good, and it worked well in the shanzai video... it also has a 1 yr warranty.
Not too much to spend for a functioning 7" tabphone?
This doesn't have 1700 mhz support so no tmo 3g if you go this route.
Yeah, I know... it'd have to be AT&T...
I'm just wondering if it'd be cheaper to get this than getting the AT&T and then flashing, etc etc...
It does have access to the full Android Market... but I doubt it would be upgraded to Honeycomb...
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Yeah, I know... it'd have to be AT&T...
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I thought AT&T 3G was on 850MHz and 1900MHz - if that's the case, this won't work on AT&T 3G.
This looks pretty good from the video - definitely borrowed its looks from the Galaxy Tab.
Regards,
Dave
Did you see the specs I posted above? It has quad band, including 850 and 1900... so it will work on AT&T...
I'm just wondering about the freescale processor... never heard of it before... it's an ARM 8 so should be okay I guess.
Yeah, you're right... it is definitely a Tab knockoff... but with phone enabled for all.
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Did you see the specs I posted above? It has quad band, including 850 and 1900... so it will work on AT&T...
I'm just wondering about the freescale processor... never heard of it before... it's an ARM 8 so should be okay I guess.
Yeah, you're right... it is definitely a Tab knockoff... but with phone enabled for all.
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Yes I did see the specs you quoted, that was the very reason I posted!
Built in 3G WCDMA UMTS/HSDPA (2100MHz), GSM/EDGE (850,900,1800,1900MHz)
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It only supports 3G on 2100MHz, so no 3G on AT&T! You'll get telephony and EDGE.
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Dave
Au contrare Mr. foxmeister...
850 + 1900 gives 3G in the US.... rotohammer has posted about this extensively and I just verified it with my local AT&T store.
Since you live in the UK, I can understand why you might not know which frequencies AT&T US uses... but thank you for your concern.
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850 + 1900 gives 3G in the US.... rotohammer has posted about this extensively and I just verified it with my local AT&T store.
Since you live in the UK, I can understand why you might not know which frequencies AT&T US uses... but thank you for your concern.
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I do know which frequencies AT&T use - you'll notice I quoted them in my original post!
You've rather missed the point though.
The spec sheet that you posted says:
Built in 3G WCDMA UMTS/HSDPA (2100MHz), GSM/EDGE (850,900,1800,1900MHz)
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The AT&T spec sheets for the Galaxy Tab says:
HSDPA 900/1900/2100 MHz, HSDPA 7.2-capable; EDGE/GPRS 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
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Both devices support regular 2G GSM over the same bands (850/900/1800/1900) but the Shanzai tablet only supports 3G over 2100MHz.
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Dave
Wrong-o.... the spec sheet (as is common with China tablets) is written incorrectly... AT&T has assured me that if it is quad band, with the frequencies listed, it will get 3G.
I'm not going to argue with you anymore... good day.
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Wrong-o.... the spec sheet (as is common with China tablets) is written incorrectly... AT&T has assured me that if it is quad band, with the frequencies listed, it will get 3G.
I'm not going to argue with you anymore... good day.
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IMHO, what you've been told by AT&T is utter rubbish.
If what AT&T told you was true, you could all be using GSM HTC Desires, or HTC Desire HDs on AT&T 3G over there because they are both quad-band GSM supporting 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. You don't though because they only support HSPA/WCDMA over 900/2100 MHz.
There's no difference here.
I'm not arguing - I'm offering sincere advice.
Regard
Dave
I was just reading a review of the Nexus S... and it has the same bands listed for it and they say what you are saying... that the Nexus S won't get AT&T 3G.... I will check with merimobiles or shanzai to see if what they have posted is correct... and if so won't be buying.
Thanks for the heads up... won't be buying it til I know for sure.
isn't att's 850/1900, which means it wont work right?
AT&T 3G is not on 2100MHz. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility (I assume this info is correct)
I would take a good look at the display before I buy such a tablet. I've seen some tablet (and actually used some) and my major disappointment was always the bad readability of the screen. I ended up with the Tab because I thought it had the best readable screen of all android tablets on the market right now. (I think it is also better than the iPad, but that's a different story).
BTW I noticed that the software on this tablet is very basic. I don't think they did put much effort in addapting the apps to the 7" screen. Did you see the dialer? I think it is just the standard android dialer with just a little adjustment by displaying the keys in the center. They didn't even bother to make the keys larger.
The Tab comes with a collection of apps specially written for the tablet, with Honeycomb-ish layout switching when rotating the device from portrait to landscape mode. Also they put a real effort in making the "built-in" apps compatible with the 7" screen. That's a big plus if you appreciate it.
So to be fair, I think it is not really a tab killer. But if you don't need the extra tab apps and the display is good, it could be well worth the money.
Just my 2 cents
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I would take a good look at the display before I buy such a tablet. I've seen some tablet (and actually used some) and my major disappointment was always the bad readability of the screen. I ended up with the Tab because I thought it had the best readable screen of all android tablets on the market right now. (I think it is also better than the iPad, but that's a different story).
BTW I noticed that the software on this tablet is very basic. I don't think they did put much effort in addapting the apps to the 7" screen. Did you see the dialer? I think it is just the standard android dialer with just a little adjustment by displaying the keys in the center. They didn't even bother to make the keys larger.
The Tab comes with a collection of apps specially written for the tablet, with Honeycomb-ish layout switching when rotating the device from portrait to landscape mode. Also they put a real effort in making the "built-in" apps compatible with the 7" screen. That's a big plus if you appreciate it.
So to be fair, I think it is not really a tab killer. But if you don't need the extra tab apps and the display is good, it could be well worth the money.
Just my 2 cents
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Well...is it all correct, but, as you said "it could be well worth the money"
I just tried a G Tab in Fnac Store in rome...is it awesome, but here it cost 699 euros...
This one it is, converting from USD in Euros, less than half of that money...
For sure, you will non have the same support as for the G Tab...but if you need just for navigate, see pictures/movies, reading ebooks/comics, it seem to be a veeeeery good compromise...
is this yet another rubbish fake ipad like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXlFcAaSIk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-fzBNI2O84
brilldoctor said:
is this yet another rubbish fake ipad like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXlFcAaSIk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-fzBNI2O84
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Well...yes...exactely like the Samsung galaxy tab...everything coming out after the iPad could be considered a "clone" of the concept...
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Well...yes...exactely like the Samsung galaxy tab...everything coming out after the iPad could be considered a "clone" of the concept...
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exept the tab works properly
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exept the tab works properly
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Well...i suppose is the minimum, for 400 euros more, uh?
Hi everyone. I'm buying a used, unlocked T-Mobile DVP 8GB soon, manufactured around January 2011 and is supposedly running Mango. I realize the phone is filled with issues, but they have supposedly been fixed by now. I'm just wondering if there are any specific issues I should check for before going ahead with the sale. Thanks!
No compass...yet
That's fine with me. I was thinking more along the line of things like checking all the keys to make sure they type the right letter (saw in another thread that x and z were switched for some reason), the device can be detected by a computer when connecting through USB, the phone doesn't reboot when you touch the screen, etc...
Also, what's the latest firmware/OS version for the DVP right now?
khara said:
That's fine with me. I was thinking more along the line of things like checking all the keys to make sure they type the right letter (saw in another thread that x and z were switched for some reason), the device can be detected by a computer when connecting through USB, the phone doesn't reboot when you touch the screen, etc...
Also, what's the latest firmware/OS version for the DVP right now?
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I've had absolutely no problems out of my DVP. 7.10.7720.68 is the latest OS version on mine. Yeah, the compass is a strange omission considering the hardware is there and was originally implemented but maps seems to orient just fine when I need directions. GPS is crazy fast.
Sounds good! Do you know the latest firmware version number as well?
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Sounds good! Do you know the latest firmware version number as well?
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latest DVP update is 7.10.8107 if the mobile is a factory unlocked version
if you have operator specific model like say T-Mobile / ATT then it would be 7.10.7720 or in some cases 7.10.7740
I too am considering a Dell Venue Pro. I am on Mobilicity in Toronto area and getting a decent Windows Phone that operates on AWS frequencies (1700/2100) is a challenge. T-Mobile phones are the only option but ordering a T-Mobile phone into Canada is a challenge too. It would be simply easier to drive to the NY State or Michigan and buy from a T-Mobile store and then unlock but I don't have 3-4 hours to burn. The Dell Venue Pro is easily available and is unlocked even ordering from Amazon.com.
If anyone has serious reservations please advise. Even better if someone is reading this and is on Mobilicity with this phone, I would appreciate any comments good or bad.
DVP !!
Hey,
M in India, and I got a DVP unlocked 16 gig, and I have no issues with it.
For me its the best looking phone out there
I dont care much about the specs(I mean if you compare the phones out there today, DVP lags behind), and the specs that a DVP has, is enough for me.
I have had only one stuck up, where I had to remove the battery to power it back on. That's it. Otherwise it has worked smoothly.
No other random reboot, no lag.
One thing, the camera is bad. You wont be able to take motion pictures. It will be blurry.
After Mango update, and making some changes in the settings, the still pics are gr8, but if you are trying to capture something that's moving, then m sorry, this aint the phone for you
I bought it in November 2011.
Current version:
OS version: 7.10.8107.79
My verdict: If you like classy, go for the DVP !!!
Excuse me for any typos or wrong grammar, English ain't my first language.
I picked it up yesterday, and so far I love it! There are a few things tripping me up, but nothing that i feel would push me over the age to abandon the platform like I did with Android. For one, it would be nice to be able to push enter to send an SMS using the keyboard, rather than having to touch the send icon on the screen. It would also be nice to be able to block certain numbers from calling.
Battery life does seem like an improvement over my old phone, though.
If you are purchasing new, in the US, I would question it. The phone is old hardware, at least 18 months old, I'd not more. Does not do 4g or wifi n. Simply put, why would you invest in an old device.
If you are buying used, or cheap with no contract, its worth it. But, buyer beware. A lot of used phones are showing up in a less than ideal condition, with damaged SD slots, or with the ability to reset missing. In these conditions they are virtually impossible to fix. Just be careful
That being said, these are good devices, well made and sound. I do not regret purchasing mine way back when. It was a most amazing Christmas present when received on December 21st, 2010.
Just to let you know I opted for a Nokia Lumia 710 !
Great deal here in Canada for 254.99 (from Rogers no contract) then $10 for unlock code. I know it's a completely different phone from DVP but figured I may as well get on with latest model phone for fairly cheap price. It will give me an idea if next (more expensive phone) should be the Nokia 900.
Thanks everyone for the mainly good comments about DVP.
We've discussed it for a bit here
Though if you're on rogers you actually have the choice of any of the lumias. (as rogers uses the same 3g bands as at&t and regardless prob has more choices)
TmoUSA users dont though, it's either the 710 or the VP or radar. (there's very little selection for AWS devices, that's almost literally every AWS capable wp7 device)
Yes... actually I am on Mobilicity which is same band as T-Mobile (1700/2100).
The Rogers Lumia 710 is a penta band phone so yes it works with Rogers 3 G bands and AT&T bands, and of course it works perfectly with Mobilicity ! (had to unlock it though)
Wonder if the T-Mobile version is penta band ? Also wonder why Rogers doesn't advertise this? I did some reading and found out it's penta band but if you read the specs from Rogers website it's only showing as quad-band. Quick trip to a Rogers store and reading the label shows it's penta band.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-4276.php
Perhaps they dont want you purchasing one and turning it to another carrier?
For a carrier sold one the supported bands arnt really relevent, as long as it supports their own band obviously.
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The Rogers Lumia 710 is a penta band phone
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I doubt this, because I am not sure that the Qualcomm chipset actually supports pentaband UMTS.
It's more likely that it's quadband UMTS, which would still allow it cover all UMTS frequencies for both ATT and T-Mo. As in, maybe they left out 850 or 900.
Reports are the rogers one works on wind, which is AWS like tmoUSA
That would mean it's at very least: 850/1700/1900/2100, with the question as to if it supports 900.
As: 850/1900 is what rogers uses (like at&t)
and: 1700/2100 for aws (it's more work to have a 1700 device without 2100 then to leave it in)
From my understanding, it's merely what amps the manu decides to put in, and what they decide is mostly politics.
All htc devices are dual band unless they're forced to add more
Most samsung international devices are triband or higher. (though they dont generally use qualcomm chips)
All dell devices are triband or higher (with the exception of the EU Streak 5 as the AWS is uncommon)
I cant actually confirm it as I dont actually recall seeing a 5+ band phone using a qualcomm chip.
Worst case you can do APQxxxx + MDMxxxx and use an external modem that does support it, i believe the MDM9200 explicitly supports 5 bands + lte bands.
All devices with APQ8060 chips do this, as APQ chips are by definition chips without modems. There's a few phones that use this setup.
tl;dr the rogers varient should support at least 850/1700/1900/2100, since at least on at&t they use both 850 and 1900 (not unreasonable to assume rogers does the same)
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - For Canada
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-4276.php
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Reports are the rogers one works on wind, which is AWS like tmoUSA
That would mean it's at very least: 850/1700/1900/2100, with the question as to if it supports 900.
As: 850/1900 is what rogers uses (like at&t)
and: 1700/2100 for aws (it's more work to have a 1700 device without 2100 then to leave it in)
From my understanding, it's merely what amps the manu decides to put in, and what they decide is mostly politics.
All htc devices are dual band unless they're forced to add more
Most samsung international devices are triband or higher. (though they dont generally use qualcomm chips)
All dell devices are triband or higher (with the exception of the EU Streak 5 as the AWS is uncommon)
I cant actually confirm it as I dont actually recall seeing a 5+ band phone using a qualcomm chip.
Worst case you can do APQxxxx + MDMxxxx and use an external modem that does support it, i believe the MDM9200 explicitly supports 5 bands + lte bands.
All devices with APQ8060 chips do this, as APQ chips are by definition chips without modems. There's a few phones that use this setup.
tl;dr the rogers varient should support at least 850/1700/1900/2100, since at least on at&t they use both 850 and 1900 (not unreasonable to assume rogers does the same)
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Can confirm the ATT version works on Rogers bands. Sold my unlocked DVP (ATT) to a rogers users. He reported it worked fine on 3G.