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Foto's and Video's of the new Diamond

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Some Screenshots
Some Video's
Release of the Touch Diamond 2 at MWC 2009
Touch Diamond2 - Product Tour
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/first-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-diamond2-with-video/
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/nieuws/pocketinfotv/12028/pocketinfotv-mwc2009-htc-touch-diamond-2-door-mark-moons-htc-benelux (Dutch)
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3417
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPc32Tn2tE&eurl=http://dailymobile.se/2009/02/19/video-htc-touch-diamond-2-hands-on/
http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/htc-touchflo-3d-ui-demonstration/14546500
Mobile 6.5 on Diamond 2

That's great to have all those pics in one place! D
BTW, do you have a picture of the other lateral side of the diamond 2? The one opposite to the volume up/down buttons?
I think that contrary to the HD, it is possible to access the microSD card without removing the back-cover (there is an external microsd slot), but I am not sure...

caught in nature

HTC Touch Diamond vs HTC Touch Diamond 2 – size comparison

No go . . .
gkai said:
That's great to have all those pics in one place! D
BTW, do you have a picture of the other lateral side of the diamond 2? The one opposite to the volume up/down buttons?
I think that contrary to the HD, it is possible to access the microSD card without removing the back-cover (there is an external microsd slot), but I am not sure...
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The slot that can be seen on that side of the phone is the grille for the speaker. The MicroSD slot is below it, and is not accessible without removing the cover

dazbert said:
The slot that can be seen on that side of the phone is the grille for the speaker. The MicroSD slot is below it, and is not accessible without removing the cover
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Thanks for the info, it is unfortunate but not too bad, I intend to buy a 16 Gb micrsd anyway so it is not like I will swap those everyday ;-)
Thickness comparison is very interesting, I wonder why such an increase of the bottom (cover) thickness, the frame seems to have remained more or less the same. If someone already have a physical TD2, it would be interesting to see the battery compartment compared to TD1, to see if the increase of size is more than what can be expected from the 900 mAh -> 1100 mAh transition. He he, I am already hoping for larger battery without changing the back cover ;-)
Given that the electronic is not likely to be larger than in TD1, and that the screen is also unlikely to be thicker, I have the feeling that a larger battery could have been fitted easily, maybe at the expense of weight but this is much less a problem than size/thickness imho...
Besides that, the screen seems more bluish compared to the yellowish TD1 screen....That's something I like

i think its step in the wrong direction from the old diamond in terms of external design
-the zoom bar just makes the phone bigger and its quite usless most of the time. having a smaller phone or a bigger 3.4" screen is much better.
-the old us diamond came with 1340mah even though its thinner and smaller

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i think its step in the wrong direction from the old diamond in terms of external design
-the zoom bar just makes the phone bigger and its quite usless most of the time. having a smaller phone or a bigger 3.4" screen is much better.
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I agree. Diamond2 is very ugly.

THE GRIZZ said:
i think its step in the wrong direction from the old diamond in terms of external design
-the zoom bar just makes the phone bigger and its quite usless most of the time. having a smaller phone or a bigger 3.4" screen is much better.
-the old us diamond came with 1340mah even though its thinner and smaller
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Agreed, the battery is too small, I smell an "extended" battery coming later (because it is more like the one included is reduced ;-) )
The zoom bar is no problematic, it is the dead space below the buttons that should be reduced. This, if smaller side borders are possible, would allow a screen .2'' bigger, and it would be the perfect screen size/ portability for me, as I find the TD2 size just right.
Dead space seems like a very bad design decision for devices where space on the front side is at a premium.

That's a very old ROM on the Diamond II...
looks like the early prototype ROM ...

ruffruff said:
That's a very old ROM on the Diamond II...
looks like the early prototype ROM ...
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Hehe, yes, I think it is a older prototype (the diamond in the wild ;-) ): look at the buttons: there is a home logo, which is replaced by the windows logo on the official pictures. Probably changed at the time the windows button requirement for WinMo6.5 was known...

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Hehe, yes, I think it is a older prototype (the diamond in the wild ;-) ): look at the buttons: there is a home logo, which is replaced by the windows logo on the official pictures. Probably changed at the time the windows button requirement for WinMo6.5 was known...
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Also, the zoom bar design has changed...and the metallic frame has a very "artisanal" look on the pics, it looks like it has been made manually or with a cruder stamping that the official model (the wild TD2 had much more squared edges, while the official one is more rounded and is cleaner/more regular)
Wow, this wild TD2 must have been an early prototype, like a concept phone ;-)

Hmm..I have to disagree.
I like the look of the new diamond. Looks a little more grown up and 'polished' if you will. As for the zoom bar, they needed something to replace the functionality of the D-Pad (which took up too much space IMHO) since Win Mo doesn't seem to support it natively. Dunno, I think it is an improvement.

Just perfect!
I like the design of the TD2 too and I think the Zoombar is very useful, using google maps etc. I took a look at it at the cebit two weeks ago and hold it in my hands - just brilliant! The way HTC combined the Aluminium and the plastic looks and feels very noble.
I'll take it
I just hope the Touch HD apps will work on the Diamond too and the processor will not lack!

Diamond 2 Without Scroll
Would have prefered no scroll pad on the face but on the sides of the device HTC Needs to make more use of the Gsensor in the UI Navigation and Digital TV - HTC Touch Media ???
Have pre ordered a Boring old Touch Diamond 2 for the 15th

I love the front design, and I do think we can do without the zoom bar. However, I find the back a real disappointment. The triangle surrounding the camera lens looks ugly, esp the fact that there's no facets like D1.
To top if off.. they had to use a glossy surface, which most of us would call it "the fingerprint magnet". It would have been better if they could go with the aluminium finish or matt black with symetrical design.
I wonder why such an increase of the bottom (cover) thickness, the frame seems to have remained more or less the same. If someone already have a physical TD2, it would be interesting to see the battery compartment compared to TD1, to see if the increase of size is more than what can be expected from the 900 mAh -> 1100 mAh transition. He he, I am already hoping for larger battery without changing the back cover ;-)
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gkai:
Don't forget that this guy has a microSD card, which causes it to be as thick as the D1+1340mAH battery. I would rather have a 8-16GB built in memory with much bigger battery.

HTC Touch Diamond2 - Launch Video and Product Tour video in HD
HTC Touch Diamond2 - Launch Video and Product Tour video in High Definition (HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj04rHHjbiw

I really like it too. I was thinking of upgrading in the next couple weeks but looks like I am going to have to wait a little longer until this is released. I just saw on another thread that t-mobile has redesigned it a little and it looks even better. It will be interesting to see what other carriers do with it before they release it. And if they are coming out with theirs in June I hope others aren't too far behind.

I think its very beautiful . . . but the TP2 is more beautiful IMO.

Does anybody know with wich backside it ships? I really hope it is the non-shining black one, and not the shiny one

[Q] is it just me or is the top bezel thicker than bottom (and other small worries)

I've been following the z2 eagerly, ever since the first leak and i had a fear that it it no longer symmetrical, i have done alot of analyzing of pictures and videos and it to me seems like the top bezel is EVER SO SLIGHTLY thicker than the bottom meaning theres no symmetry.
I have a ocd like obsession with design and symmetry, which is why i choose the z series since the first z, it also to me sadly seeme the z2 has been more rounded than the z1 which to me is a slight dissapointment.
Second off it seems both the back glass and the metal frame has gotten a bluish hue, from what i have seen i liked the z1's gun metal grey frame i don't understand why they changed it infact more black would be nice too, other videos show it in a more premium like silver which i like alot so it is hard to judge as many videos look different.
A positive thing is that it seems they got rid of that ugly plastic strip inside the metal frame that the z1 had, it ruined the design for that phone in my opinion and i adore the design of my z1 just hated that plastic.
other than these microscopic worries the phone seems to be my absolute dream phone inside and out.

I think its the SONY branding, sensors, camera and the black stripe of the speaker bar that gives the impression of a greater bezel up top.

Can't really tell you.
if you're really obsessed with symmetry, maybe you should bring a ruler when you about to buy it later

mujj said:
I think its the SONY branding, sensors, camera and the black stripe of the speaker bar that gives the impression of a greater bezel up top.
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heres the thing i took sonys official front press picture of the phone copied it put it next to the phone upside down it seems to check out
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zzcool said:
heres the thing i took sonys official front press picture of the phone copied it put it next to the phone upside down it seems to check out
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OH Yeah..I.....can....see.........................Nah..

Publicglutton said:
OH Yeah..I.....can....see.........................Nah..
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isn't it obvious unless i am completely wrong
that the bottom one is like 0.5 mm or so longer they would be completely centered with eachother as i flipped the phone unless i am completely missing something

Looks like it is. Can't say it's a problem though. Xperia Z was the same and I only noticed it after a few days...

zzcool said:
isn't it obvious unless i am completely wrong
that the bottom one is like 0.5 mm or so longer they would be completely centered with eachother as i flipped the phone unless i am completely missing something
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zz, Taking a longer much closer look at your example image of the bezel , I think your right , it's very tiny difference...but it's there .
It does not really bother me though, I'm much more OCD about keeping my phone in pristine condition, so as soon as I recieve mine it will be on with a front & back screen protector and case :silly:

Publicglutton said:
zz, Taking a longer much closer look at your example image of the bezel , I think your right , it's very tiny difference...but it's there .
It does not really bother me though, I'm much more OCD about keeping my phone in pristine condition, so as soon as I recieve mine it will be on with a front & back screen protector and case :silly:
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oh this is not what i wanted to know due to my obsession
and i am ocd about EVERYTHING i spent hours yesterday looking up pictures and videos comparing them to eachother to get the right look of the frame some pictures show it with a dark like blue which is ok other show it with a purple silver like hue which to me is a little on the girly side but i need to see myself before i judge the phone is so perfect that i am nitpicking the heck out of it
the other small tiny worry is that it seems they wen't back to the blue like black glass like the original z
i liked the blue like frame on the original z so chances are i'll like z2 aswell
but WHY would they touch the already perfect z1 design they only needed to add the thinner bezels speakers and screen and get rid of that plastic the design was perfect as it was
if they even dare putting XPERIA in big letters at the front on their next flagship then i won't even bother even trying to consider that it would entirely damage the phone beyond repair for me
the z1 was so perfect but i guess i can't expect them to mae a phone after my taste the omnibalance design was almost that
edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now

zzcool said:
oh this is not what i wanted to know due to my obsession
and i am ocd about EVERYTHING i spent hours yesterday looking up pictures and videos comparing them to eachother to get the right look of the frame some pictures show it with a dark like blue which is ok other show it with a purple silver like hue which to me is a little on the girly side but i need to see myself before i judge the phone is so perfect that i am nitpicking the heck out of it
the other small tiny worry is that it seems they wen't back to the blue like black glass like the original z
i liked the blue like frame on the original z so chances are i'll like z2 aswell
but WHY would they touch the already perfect z1 design they only needed to add the thinner bezels speakers and screen and get rid of that plastic the design was perfect as it was
if they even dare putting XPERIA in big letters at the front on their next flagship then i won't even bother even trying to consider that it would entirely damage the phone beyond repair for me
the z1 was so perfect but i guess i can't expect them to mae a phone after my taste the omnibalance design was almost that
edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now
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But that's a good thing. Same size device, but more screen real estate

zzcool said:
edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now
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I read that the top bezel has to be that size to fit the camera module (camera module is too large to fit behind the LCD and keep the phone thin). So it makes sense that they can't shrink it. Good investigating!

Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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shook187 said:
Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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Because we are tech nerds obsessing over a phone. Come join the party if you want. :highfive:

shook187 said:
Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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The OP? What is the purpose of your post? OP clearly said he's obsessed with this. I answered the poll out of memory but now I see it, it really is a tiny bit out of symmetry. I will possibly do my own analysis.
To you, OP. The edges still have the plastic, its just in perfect alignment with the metal so that the curvature is perfect. This was one of my favorite improvements in the phone design.
PS. I suggest meditation and relaxation techniques for your ocd.

Sony Xperia Z3 and Z3 Cybershot Concept Phone Last Attempt

so considering my first attempt at a concept didn't go too well i thought i'd try again as i was at the time on a vacation being limited to what i could post
first the z3
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second the z3 cybershot it's my take on samsungs k zoom i was unsure how thick it had to be untill i saw the k zoom
Many did not like the thin bezels saying it would be impossible to hold but, i had an idea for this i call virtual bezels the phone itself would use a JDI developed OLED panel with white magic, the beauty with oled is that when the screen shows black it's off, so my idea is simple to add dead space too the screen when you choose, for example flip the phone in landscape and you get a special amount of dead space of your choosing, since it's oled it would look exactly the same as a physical bezel as the screen would be off where the deadspace is, my idea is simple to have a intelligent virtual bezel that changes itself after your preference, in potrait the bezel could be very thin as you don't technically need bezel to hold a phone properly,but in landscape the black deadspace could be more so you can hold the phone properly, when you want to watch a movie having it standing in it's dock or something you could fill the entire screen with the movie, the dead space would be controlled by a seperate chip to avoid any glitches through android.
the screen itself would pretty much be edge to edge many did not like this one
and i agree it's not pretty, but it's the same exact phone as the one above, as you can see the sony logo is glowing the notification icons are next too it thats because thats part of the screen, if you don't like having it like this then simply open the settings menu drag a slider and adjust how much screen space you want, so think of this virtual bezel idea as the black classic android softkeys but without any buttons just a black border, since it's oled this black border would be completely off.
it is very hard to explain my virtual bezel idea without actually showing it, think of the xperia z1 for example magically extending it's screen across the bezels.
my second idea is a light stripe all around the phone, i want this light stripe to be very advanced to be able to show color gradient, i like flashing lights but i don't want them to ruin the design of the phone, so the idea is that this light stripe should replace the plastic frame the z series phones have for antenna reception when the light is off it would be completely invisible, ofcourse i am not sure if a light like this is even possible but it's an idea nonetheless.

zzcool said:
so considering my first attempt at a concept didn't go too well i thought i'd try again as i was at the time on a vacation being limited to what i could post
first the z3
second the z3 cybershot it's my take on samsungs k zoom i was unsure how thick it had to be untill i saw the k zoom
Many did not like the thin bezels saying it would be impossible to hold but, i had an idea for this i call virtual bezels the phone itself would use a JDI developed OLED panel with white magic, the beauty with oled is that when the screen shows black it's off, so my idea is simple to add dead space too the screen when you choose, for example flip the phone in landscape and you get a special amount of dead space of your choosing, since it's oled it would look exactly the same as a physical bezel as the screen would be off where the deadspace is, my idea is simple to have a intelligent virtual bezel that changes itself after your preference, in potrait the bezel could be very thin as you don't technically need bezel to hold a phone properly,but in landscape the black deadspace could be more so you can hold the phone properly, when you want to watch a movie having it standing in it's dock or something you could fill the entire screen with the movie, the dead space would be controlled by a seperate chip to avoid any glitches through android.
the screen itself would pretty much be edge to edge many did not like this one
and i agree it's not pretty, but it's the same exact phone as the one above, as you can see the sony logo is glowing the notification icons are next too it thats because thats part of the screen, if you don't like having it like this then simply open the settings menu drag a slider and adjust how much screen space you want, so think of this virtual bezel idea as the black classic android softkeys but without any buttons just a black border, since it's oled this black border would be completely off.
it is very hard to explain my virtual bezel idea without actually showing it, think of the xperia z1 for example magically extending it's screen across the bezels.
my second idea is a light stripe all around the phone, i want this light stripe to be very advanced to be able to show color gradient, i like flashing lights but i don't want them to ruin the design of the phone, so the idea is that this light stripe should replace the plastic frame the z series phones have for antenna reception when the light is off it would be completely invisible, ofcourse i am not sure if a light like this is even possible but it's an idea nonetheless.
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i sure like it bro..the bezel less looks much better but almost all people want to protect their phone from falls by keeping large bezels that i hate ...i appreciate your hard work bro..

unmaskedfalesh said:
i sure like it bro..the bezel less looks much better but almost all people want to protect their phone from falls by keeping large bezels that i hate ...i appreciate your hard work bro..
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thankyou it seems it's very difficult to have concepts liked here
i also did a razer phone and i want to move that design to my sony concepts
and here was a more square version that people didn't like but i personally like just maybe get rid of that thick frame thing

you can give for me wallpaper pict galaxy first
zzcool said:
so considering my first attempt at a concept didn't go too well i thought i'd try again as i was at the time on a vacation being limited to what i could post
first the z3
second the z3 cybershot it's my take on samsungs k zoom i was unsure how thick it had to be untill i saw the k zoom
Many did not like the thin bezels saying it would be impossible to hold but, i had an idea for this i call virtual bezels the phone itself would use a JDI developed OLED panel with white magic, the beauty with oled is that when the screen shows black it's off, so my idea is simple to add dead space too the screen when you choose, for example flip the phone in landscape and you get a special amount of dead space of your choosing, since it's oled it would look exactly the same as a physical bezel as the screen would be off where the deadspace is, my idea is simple to have a intelligent virtual bezel that changes itself after your preference, in potrait the bezel could be very thin as you don't technically need bezel to hold a phone properly,but in landscape the black deadspace could be more so you can hold the phone properly, when you want to watch a movie having it standing in it's dock or something you could fill the entire screen with the movie, the dead space would be controlled by a seperate chip to avoid any glitches through android.
the screen itself would pretty much be edge to edge many did not like this one
and i agree it's not pretty, but it's the same exact phone as the one above, as you can see the sony logo is glowing the notification icons are next too it thats because thats part of the screen, if you don't like having it like this then simply open the settings menu drag a slider and adjust how much screen space you want, so think of this virtual bezel idea as the black classic android softkeys but without any buttons just a black border, since it's oled this black border would be completely off.
it is very hard to explain my virtual bezel idea without actually showing it, think of the xperia z1 for example magically extending it's screen across the bezels.
my second idea is a light stripe all around the phone, i want this light stripe to be very advanced to be able to show color gradient, i like flashing lights but i don't want them to ruin the design of the phone, so the idea is that this light stripe should replace the plastic frame the z series phones have for antenna reception when the light is off it would be completely invisible, ofcourse i am not sure if a light like this is even possible but it's an idea nonetheless.
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you can give for me wallpaper pict galaxy first. i like it

trongvosong said:
you can give for me wallpaper pict galaxy first. i like it
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it's a live wallpaper called galaxy pack one of the best live wallpapers you can buy in my opinion

zzcool said:
it's a live wallpaper called galaxy pack one of the best live wallpapers you can buy in my opinion
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oh i buy your apps on playstore, but i want wallpaper, i dont like live wallpaper ?? you can help me ??

zzcool said:
it's a live wallpaper called galaxy pack one of the best live wallpapers you can buy in my opinion
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you can help me , how take stock wallpaper from "live wallpaper" ??

Issues (and fixes) you have found in Xperia Z3 Compact

Obviously I don't have the device yet, but I am seriously considering it and searched for every one's experiences and reviews here and there and so far I have found these issues:
In this video showing the gaming experience, the device obviously lags and drops frames to the point o being unplayable when you play the GTA San Andreas with the maximum graphic settings, which is odd considering the chipset and the lower resolution it pushes versus other 801/Adreno 330 devices : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubC1e0ScghU
Tommy-Geenexus said:
GTA isn't very optimized. You can't play it with full graphics on any mobile phone lagfree.
Also the Z3c got a new fw certified, so the guy in the video runs the game on a pre-release firmware.
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The other one is the quality and loudness of the headphone output which is quite poor if we compare it based on the phonearena audio benchmarks: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks
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it is rated way low. In fact all Z series devices seem to be lacking power in headphone output and are no where to be find at the top, it may be the result of water/dust proofing the device, but I don't know for sure. (Though the loudspeaker is pretty good.)
premneo said:
no LTE band 12, for t-mobiles new 700mhz band.
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fez_m said:
I got my black Z3C this morning in the post.... had to send it back, it looked like the top port cover doesn't shut properly and comes undone way too easy.
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zanbay said:
When you look at the screen closely there are horizonal stripes.
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showstopper03 said:
1. The vibration strength is EXTREMELY weak.
2. The front facing "stereo" speakers..... Honestly they suck.
3.The z3c is no where near as comfortable as the moto x is to hold. Now i'm not saying the z3c is uncomfortable by any stretch. It's just that the moto x IS just that nice in the hand for me.
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stormbeta said:
- The flat back is uncomfortable and makes it easy to drop the phone, especially coming from my Moto X / Moto G which were very comfortable to hold.
- The screen is brighter and easier to read in daylight than my Moto X, but the viewing angles are pretty bad, especially at diagonals to the screen rectangle (the colors wash out very badly in this case). It's tolerable, but my Moto X's screen was definitely better.
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Notchr302 said:
I'm a little worried about screen rigidity. After reading the other post about pressing the screen and seeing a rainbow and then seeing a YouTube video about a popping sound when you press on the screen.
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shethsa said:
ISSUES THAT I NEED RESOLUTION FOR:
1. cannot write directly to my sd card from an external pen drive - why why why? especially when the internal memory is only 16gb
2. 3rd party toggle for mobile data doesn't work - only the one in the highly inconvenient right side notification bar (have since overcome that using Notification Toggle app)
3. Need a faster charger - just wondering if the Samsung 2Amp charger will actually charge it quicker than the supplied 1.5A one?
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Evangion said:
I solved my laggy keyboards by clearing the cache of each and every keyboard app I have. Works fine now! Silly me.
On another issue, does anybody hear a faint "60-cycle hum" when your earphones/headphones are plugged in? Its only very pronounced on the right though.
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qwerty147 said:
This could be caused by SmartConnect, I found a fix in the Sony forum (Can't paste the link):
This removed the strange 3 second hum. I've disabled SmartConnect for now ...
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Any one feel free to add to this list if you find the device lacking or problematic in any way (before or after the purchase).

Po0yAn said:
Obviously I don't have the device yet, but I am seriously considering it and searched for every one's experiences and reviews here and there and so far I have found two issues:
In this video showing the gaming experience, the device obviously lags and drops frames to the point o being unplayable when you play the GTA San Andreas with the maximum graphic settings, which is odd considering the chipset and the lower resolution it pushes versus other 801/Adreno 330 devices : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubC1e0ScghU
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I wouldn't say it's 'unplayable', but I get your point. I suppose if you absolutely have to play games on ultra max settings, that would be an issue. I think most people would be willing to turn it down a notch and get good performance though.
[*]The other one is the quality and loudness of the headphone output which is quite poor if we compare it based on the phonearena audio benchmarks: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks
it is rated way low. In fact all Z series devices seem to be lacking power in headphone output and are no where to be find at the top, it may be the result of water/dust proofing the device, but I don't know for sure. (Though the loudspeaker is pretty good.)
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I have a Moto X (2013). The speaker is loud, but at the highest two or three levels, the speakers distorts a lot, and I physically feel my phone vibrating. It doesn't distort with headphones in though tbf. Personally, I'll take slightly less volume for better quality. You can also always use an app like Equalizer to increase volume.
Any one feel free to add to this list if you find the device lacking or problematic in any way (before or after the purchase).
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I order one form my wife and I this morning. Neither one of these things concern me. My biggest concern is the durability of the glass. This will be my first phone with glass on the front and back. It's Gorilla Glass 3 on both sides correct? I know it's not indestructible though. And I don't like the low panorama settings on the camera. Other than that I'm good to go.

I think its dragontrail glass which is another equivalent of gorilla glass. I don't think there will be much difference.

GTA isn't very optimized. You can't play it with full graphics on any mobile phone lagfree.
Also the Z3c got a new fw certified, so the guy in the video runs the game on a pre-release firmware.

no LTE band 12, for t-mobiles new 700mhz band.

techguyone said:
I think its dragontrail glass which is another equivalent of gorilla glass. I don't think there will be much difference.
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I myself have been very impressed with the glass on my Xperia Acro S, I've had it for about a year and a half now, never used a screen protector or case and I work as a landscaper so the phone has been in my pocket unprotected along with sand, dust and other debris and it only has one very small scratch which is quite difficult to notice, and maybe a dozen of even harder to notice micro scratches. I've also dropped the phone several times on very hard floors and it there are only a few rough spots on the chrome-like rim. But the display glass still looks like new, unless you hold it directly under a very strong light right after thoroughly cleaning the glass. It has dragontrail glass I think. Though the glass sits slightly deeper than the frame, which helps. I think with the Z3C, the glass is level with or ever so slightly raised above the frame.

Po0yAn said:
[*]The other one is the quality and loudness of the headphone output which is quite poor if we compare it based on the phonearena audio benchmarks: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks
it is rated way low. In fact all Z series devices seem to be lacking power in headphone output and are no where to be find at the top, it may be the result of water/dust proofing the device, but I don't know for sure. (Though the loudspeaker is pretty good.)
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Volume level easily fixed after root. My Z1C with volume mod and V4A is the best-sounding mobile device I've ever owned, so expect similar quality from the new lineup

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Volume level easily fixed after root. My Z1C with volume mod and V4A is the best-sounding mobile device I've ever owned, so expect similar quality from the new lineup
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How is the Z1C with the V4A? I'm using VV4A with my XZ, but there are so many hiccups that it's almost impossible to listen to music (Unless I edit some things)

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How is the Z1C with the V4A? I'm using VV4A with my XZ, but there are so many hiccups that it's almost impossible to listen to music (Unless I edit some things)
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Sounds lovely, nice deep base with lots of detail in the mid-high also
Sorry can't help with your issues, my only advice would be to disable all the V4A features in settings and re-enable one by one.

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Sounds lovely, nice deep base with lots of detail in the mid-high also
Sorry can't help with your issues, my only advice would be to disable all the V4A features in settings and re-enable one by one.
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I didn't meant how it was sounding, but if you had any technical problems or so
And it's not a V4A issue, many people have the same problem, even without V4A
Oh well, that will be history soon!!!:laugh::victory:

The only thing holding me back from buying the z3C is that the screen is not Full HD... I have the HTC One M7 now and it's just such a lovely screen... Please convince me otherwise...!

Foxhunter123 said:
The only thing holding me back from buying the z3C is that the screen is not Full HD... I have the HTC One M7 now and it's just such a lovely screen... Please convince me otherwise...!
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Unless you are holding the phone flat against your face or use it under a magnifying glass, you won't see the difference.
Additionally, 720p HD improves performance and battery life compared to full-HD.
Also, with full-HD on a screen of this size, interface elements and buttons in some apps and games would be so tiny that they'd be practically unusable.

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The only thing holding me back from buying the z3C is that the screen is not Full HD... I have the HTC One M7 now and it's just such a lovely screen... Please convince me otherwise...!
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http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/1401457/sony-xperia-z3-compact-review
20 hrs video playback at 50% brightness thanks to the 720p screen. Convinced?
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Foxhunter123 said:
The only thing holding me back from buying the z3C is that the screen is not Full HD... I have the HTC One M7 now and it's just such a lovely screen... Please convince me otherwise...!
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it's just like @ degraaff said. You're falling for the gimmick, you really won't see the difference AT ALL! If the phone had a full HD screen, it would only make the phone worse and not better.

Dsteppa said:
it's just like @ degraaff said. You're falling for the gimmick, you really won't see the difference AT ALL! If the phone had a full HD screen, it would only make the phone worse and not better.
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I notice that my husband's Galaxy has a prettier screen than my Moto X. Mind you, I'm perfectlyhappy with the screen on the Moto X, but sid by side, te difference is obvious.

Puzzlegal said:
I notice that my husband's Galaxy has a prettier screen than my Moto X. Mind you, I'm perfectlyhappy with the screen on the Moto X, but sid by side, te difference is obvious.
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Which Galaxy? There are so many. Are you sure you aren't talking about better colors? Samsung tends to use AMOLED screens, which have those very deep blacks and over-saturated colours.

720p + battery >> 1080p

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Which Galaxy? There are so many. Are you sure you aren't talking about better colors? Samsung tends to use AMOLED screens, which have those very deep blacks and over-saturated colours.
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I think it's the s3. And yes, the colors are much more vibrant. But it is also a larger screen, and it looks sharper.

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I think it's the s3. And yes, the colors are much more vibrant. But it is also a larger screen, and it looks sharper.
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The Moto X screen was rated pretty average for the previous generation so I'm not too surprised that the S3 looks better. Also the S3 has the same resolution as the X so resolution plays no part in the comparision.

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I think it's the s3. And yes, the colors are much more vibrant. But it is also a larger screen, and it looks sharper.
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Motorola Moto X: 4.7 inch, 1280 x 720 pixels
Samsung Galaxy s3: 4.8 inch, 1280 x 720 pixels
Both have the same resolution - the same as Xperia Z3 Compact - and none of them are full-HD.
The Galaxy S3 uses a pentile AMOLED panel, which are known for having less sharpness than TN or IPS with the same resolution. So I don't know what is going on with the phones of you and your husband. Logic tells me the Moto X should have a sharper display than the Galaxy S3.

Screen replaced--looks matte finish

My display was replaced by Sony as soft-keys weren't working. Also they upgraded to v5.1.1 Lollipop.
But the new replacement display doesnt look like ORIGINAL ones which I had prior to replacement.This new one looks Matte finish type while the one I had originally was Glossy.
Or either the new display is not of a Z3 but of other compact phones like Z1 compact etc. Can this happen??
I can easily make it out as the regular HD wallpapers which I applied on old and new display looks different on same brightness settings.
Or is it so that the new display batch is improved etc. Or is it just that lollipop 5.1.1 displays graphics in this way???
I'm feeling pissed off!!!
Update*****The wallpapers have a pinkish tint on them.
In fact if I apply same wallpaper and take screenshot it appears differently than on previous display. So now its not just the display issue, seems somethings wrong internally. Coz a screenshot should come natural as it has nothing to do what colors the display produces right???
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See the difference between these two images. The overall face, cheeks and neck bones & overall body, leaves and tree branches etc.all got browny or pinkish tint which isnt natural looking.In old display the image is represented as is ORIGINALLYin colors generation which looks a natural human body tone and also other background factors.

the z1 compact screen is smaller so its not that. Is it at all possible you can take a picture of the screen?
Did you have xreality engine off on the other phone? It might be on here. FYI: my screen didnt change its look when i upgraded to 5.1.1
For all you know you scored a screen from the Z5 compact seeing as the z3 compact is discontinued

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the z1 compact screen is smaller so its not that. Is it at all possible you can take a picture of the screen?
Did you have xreality engine off on the other phone? It might be on here. FYI: my screen didnt change its look when i upgraded to 5.1.1
For all you know you scored a screen from the Z5 compact seeing as the z3 compact is discontinued
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Are you crazy?? Dude Z5 isnt in the world as of yet and Z3compact is just not even a year old and you talking about such crap.
I need a valid or at least meaningful explanation.

It was only one carrier in the US who discontinued the z3 compact. It's still the latest available compact device from Sony world wide...
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Are you sure there's no screen protector on it? XD and is the display better or worse? If it's better, then why complain?
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Are you sure there's no screen protector on it? XD and is the display better or worse? If it's better, then why complain?
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I removed screen protector and it really doesnt look that good as was before.
Wanna know if lollipop is causing this issue coz read somewhere in changelog that lollipop did some gui enhancements as well.

The difference not comes from lollipop. I also change my screen before 2 or 3 months and it's not the same as the original. It is more like amoled now(more hot colors).

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The difference not comes from lollipop. I also change my screen before 2 or 3 months and it's not the same as the original. It is more like amoled now(more hot colors).
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Is it so?? Then why cant Sony put the same old screen.
This amoled seems sacrifices on color quality.
Means tomorrow even phones battery or others part will be replaced by subsequent alternate option rather than the original factory fitted ones????

Lol they didn't put an amoled screen on it.

I doubt that they used amoled
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For a replaced display screen can there be minor color difference??

nri_tech1183 said:
My display was replaced by Sony as soft-keys weren't working. Also they upgraded to v5.1.1 Lollipop.
But the new replacement display doesnt look like ORIGINAL ones which I had prior to replacement.This new one looks Matte finish type while the one I had originally was Glossy.
Or either the new display is not of a Z3 but of other compact phones like Z1 compact etc. Can this happen??
I can easily make it out as the regular HD wallpapers which I applied on old and new display looks different on same brightness settings.
Or is it so that the new display batch is improved etc. Or is it just that lollipop 5.1.1 displays graphics in this way???
I'm feeling pissed off!!!
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This is BS, only the Z3 compact screen fits the Z3 compact connector and frame which is an LCD screen with a glossy finish. AMOLED is a proprietary technology from Samsung and Sony never used OLED nor AMOLED displays on any smartphone.
If you had your display replaced at a dubious shop then it could be that they used a counterfeit display which could have much more variations vs. the OEM one but not for a warranty repair obviously.
Now it can be that your display has a slightly different brightness or color temperature vs. your old display which is totally normal. If it has a matte finish it is that you did not remove the screen protector or left one on the screen.

I am not saying the display that they put on my phone is amoled it has colors like amoled that I didn't like.

I'm curious can you post a picture?

I think there's just a difference in your white balance. And it just seems a little warner now. I wish my white balance was warmer
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no screen replacement
I had a screen issue also, but Sony replaced the whole phone with a new one. They said that changing the screen couldn't guarantee the waterproof.

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I am not saying the display that they put on my phone is amoled it has colors like amoled that I didn't like.
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As amoled is a better quality display you do not have either an amoled display or a display that looks like amoled.
Current amoled is much better quality, Check Wikipedia for a list of high end flagship that use it. The Nokia N808 used a 3 year old super amoled that is better than anything on the market even today.
So you can get that idea out of your head. I would pay a lot extra for a super amoled screen I my Z3C.
My GF has a Z1C which is 0.3" smaller but the screen looks like you say in comparison to the Z3C.
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This is BS, only the Z3 compact screen fits the Z3 compact connector and frame which is an LCD screen with a glossy finish. AMOLED is a proprietary technology from Samsung and Sony never used OLED nor AMOLED displays on any .
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Nokia were the first with amoled displays so I highly doubt it is Samsung proprietary technology, and their displays were consistently better than any other manufacturer.
The dodgy repairer sounds like a very possible option. I had something similar in SE Asia from Sony Thailand - complete BS "repair", luckily I put it in a glass of water in front of the Sony store manager so when it leaked water and died he could say absolutely nothing and had to give me a refund, well the fact I made a song and dance and a customer about to buy a large new tv walked out really did it. (I bought my current z3C in the US)
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See the difference between these two images.[/B] The overall face, cheeks and neck bones & overall body, leaves and tree branches etc.all got browny or pinkish tint which isnt natural looking.In old display the image is represented as is ORIGINALLYin colors generation which looks a natural human body tone and also other background factors.
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It was brought up but you didn't answer: you do know you can change settings under display don't you? Is x-reality turned on? Have you adjusted the white balance?
5.1.1 does not change the look of the screen.

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It was brought up but you didn't answer: you do know you can change settings under display don't you? Is x-reality turned on? Have you adjusted the white balance?
5.1.1 does not change the look of the screen.
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Well I never used any of those features like x-reality and super-vivid as Image enhancement was always set off by me.
And those reference screenshots as well didnt had x-reality or vivid turned on.
In fact I never saw any difference eve on my screen even if I turn on x-reality or super-vivid.

A screenshot will not show screen differences, it'll just show the screen on the device I use to view it I.e. My phone or my laptop for me, your phone or whatever for you. So the screen shots are useless. If you don't believe me go and look at the screenshot on your computer.
If yo cannot see the difference with x-reality on maybe that is where you trouble lays? Your eyes.
sorry to be rude but There is a vast difference with these options turned on or off.
So once again, still trying to help you, go and turn these settings on, and then check and modify your white balance - do these fix your problem?

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A screenshot will not show screen differences, it'll just show the screen on the device I use to view it I.e. My phone or my laptop for me, your phone or whatever for you. So the screen shots are useless. If you don't believe me go and look at the screenshot on your computer.
If yo cannot see the difference with x-reality on maybe that is where you trouble lays? Your eyes.
sorry to be rude but There is a vast difference with these options turned on or off.
So once again, still trying to help you, go and turn these settings on, and then check and modify your white balance - do these fix your problem?
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The screenshots are taken internally with the inbuilt screenshot capture utility and not by another phone by hovering onto my device. Did you got that??