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Performance in ICS/CM9 roms

I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
cheers

incorrect.

admanirv said:
I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
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What? ICS is more powerfull than any blur rom...

way better than GB bro

I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me

thaikinh said:
I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me
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video playback (HW decoding) and flash player are what's holding me back.
On the rom that you tried, have you tried those functions?

Honestly, if I didn't have a lapdock I would be using jokesax build as my daily driver. It does everything I need it to do smoothly. Only problem is when you plug it in the lapdock, it's just an android tablet with no touch screen. Using that trackpad as your finger is not fun. Otherwise, the CM9 stuff is great.

Okay so the tegra drivers for ICS are present in the CM9 roms or is it some bespoke driver?
H/W decoding and camcorder are what keep me away from the ICS roms atm.
Thanks

Any custom can be good!
Correct me if Im wrong but as far as I can tell the big differences between ICS and GB are seen in stock roms.
And Custom Rom is USUALLY zipaligned, deodexed, converted to ext4.
Sometimes Developers (like notorious) build awesome mix of both, and put in they're own unique tweeks. Notorious's Neutrino 2.6 for instance runs graphics entirely from the GPU among some other tweeks, and you WILL NOT find a smoother faster rom. WILL NOT!
Now the only real ways we have to test out phones "performance" is with benchmarking apps like antutu and quandrant. But honestly their outcomes tend to vary so much, its hard to go by what they say.
But just so everyone knows, my best bechmark "score" on antutu was 7047 with cm7 oc'd to 1.45 (which is gingerbread by the way)
Ive benched every rom from all of Jokers cm9's, to every miui (GB&ICS) as well as all the CM7's and builds based off them (neutrino, morrisoftgen). Even BLUR based roms like dorians redpill and The Darkside by nottich.
All im saying is that I think both builds have the potential to be equally as powerful as the eachother.
PLEASE if Im completly wrong about ANY of this I would like to be corrected, but please make sure its with CORRECT information, lol.
Thanks!

CM9 anTuTu
Also, the best score on antutu ive gotten on any one of the cm9 jokersax builds with faux 1.45 oc kernel was about 6900!
So, so far Custom GB roms are best so far according to benches

I think the gb rooms perform a little bit faster...using cm9 4.0 jokersax and its laggy opening my app drawer and little laggy moments too..cm7 was a little bit faster though imo
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the ICS ROMs still aren't very good with 2D hardware acceleration. And that means 2D is still gonna be slow and jerky.

ICS
I am running with jokersax ics rom, it is great, and the performance is better than the OTA 2.3.5 from Bell.. it took a bit to get the bootloader unlocked, etc.. it seems like I flash roms daily now... Unfortunately, there are still bugs... the most utd rom does not seem to take pictures properly, causes the app to lock up, and the video cam is no usable at all.. :\ I have reverted back to the 0.3.3 rom, and it will take pictures... as far as 2d/3d games are concerned, I play world of goo, hot pursuit, angry birds space and they all run great...
Motorola has ics update in progress as we speak, and they should be rolling out in a couple months, which means any lost code or functions that are n/a now will be rippable from the official... so either way, you can use the ota now or get a taste of ICS with a few problems...
flashing only takes about 5 minutes anyhoo, so its not like you can't switch back and forth....
I find ICS to perform a little quicker, my 2 cents.

Performance
Personally I have used Jokersax's and turl's builds (using turl now, but downloading jokersax 0.4.4 now). Both have really very good performance, especially compared to stock, I would say they outperform it by a long way, but yea, 2D graphics aren't brilliant and the camera was borked (although jokersax has apparently fixed that). I would say definitely change to 4.0.4 just because it is the latest android version and everything about it is soo nice, no blur to bog it down and while I am sure that many 2.3 roms can perform better, sometimes, it is best to choose user experience.

im on turl's latest and find scrolling to be so utterly smooth on ics easily replicating the smooth scrolling experiene on iphone whereas GB always had that slight jittery scroll which always annoyed me. I use apex launcher which i find to be smoother than trebuchet and with that all in all id say performance seems smoother than back on GB

I'm using CM9 both on HPtouchpad and Atrix.
And I can say that Atrix's 2d acceleration is not perfect yet.
It is almost perfect when we scroll lists.
But not when we scroll home screen with wallpaper scroll option.
And some people will think that browser's acceleration is perfect,
but it is not yet when it comes to complex web page.
It can be even more faster. I found that when I used cm9 on hp touchpad.
(Of course, turl and jokersax are doing great job. We have to blame motorola and nvidia )

I find cm9 to work very well, although there are the browser issues mentioned elsewhere.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

Cyanogenmod 9 v6.0 vs stock ICS 4.0.4 (basic differences?)

Hi everybody! I have some "newbie" questions about CyanogenMod 9...
1. Is it really faster compared to stock ICS? I haven't overclocked the processor and my main problem with ICS, is that the default launcher has a little stuttering some times and it's not absolutely smooth. In CyanogenMod9, the "Trebuchet" launcher is almost at the same level in terms of "movement flow".
I had Nova launcher previously and I'm thinking of installing it again on CyanogenMod 9...will this be a right move?
2. What else is better than the stock ICS there? Ι already use that marvelous power widget inside the notification bar, but, except some similar workflow tweaks, I can't see anything else...any feature list compared to the stock ICS 4.0.4?
3. Why the torch toggle-in-notification is disabled in settings? (the pre-installed torch seem to work perfectly)
4. Screen brightness gets increased when there is a lot of light around, but It doesn't decrease its brightness when I go in a dark room again...Am I doing something wrong? (I haven't touched those sensor filters etc...)
Can you please help me? I'm not a developer and I'm mostly concerned about a smooth and fast experience.

1. Make a nandroid and try it out yourself.
There is no right move. Do whatever it is you want. Your phone won't explode if you install the "wrong" launcher.
2. Take a look at the popular roms in the dev section and repeat #1. Or look at bedalus's benchmarks if you're really that apprehensive.
3. probably hasn't had the bugs worked out.
4. again, maybe a bug. After you flash a couple of roms I'm sure you'll see that you can get #3 and #4 working.
More doing and less thinking. As I said, you have a nandroid to fall back on.

erikikaz said:
1. Make a nandroid and try it out yourself.
There is no right move. Do whatever it is you want. Your phone won't explode if you install the "wrong" launcher.
2. Take a look at the popular roms in the dev section and repeat #1. Or look at bedalus's benchmarks if you're really that apprehensive.
3. probably hasn't had the bugs worked out.
4. again, maybe a bug. After you flash a couple of roms I'm sure you'll see that you can get #3 and #4 working.
More doing and less thinking. As I said, you have a nandroid to fall back on.
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Thanks for the response!
1. If you read carefully my post (sorry for my bad English), you will understand that I already have tried CM9 v6.0 and that was the reason I wanted to know more, because I don't see any performance improvement over stock ICS 4.0.4 on my Nexus S. Am I wrong? There must be some objective reasons except my judgement.
2. I was talking specifically about CM9 features.
3. I figured that with the torch...it's probably not ready yet. I can't find any post about the brightness though (there are so many options there which I don't fully understand and brightness never works as it should).
4. I don't want to flash other roms...I have already flashed Wildestpixel's roms and I didn't see an obvious performance difference too...

For trebuchet if you check (or unchecked I forget) the join with apps setting it makes the launcher just as smooth as gingerbread

Well, I switched from Bugless Beast today to latest CM9 nightly (15.4, not the KalimochoAz version posted on here).
Haven't tried CM9 for a while and it surprised me, speed wise and stuff integrated in it. I'm a fan of stockish ROM's, that's why I used BB since ICS came out. What made me stay is:
- integration of BLN & Voodoo sound, meaning I don't need to run those 2 apps in BG (saves memory ofcourse, I'm a sucker for optimization)
- BigMem is quite noticeable, also RAM free right after clean flash is about 200MB (vs 140MB on AOKP, which is the ****tiest, meaning when I use the apps I have in BG, there was constant launcher restart - low on RAM)
- seems like internal storage speed is faster, I noticed level loading on Where's my water game is perhaps the same as on GB (was waay slower when ICS came out)
- nice UI optional goodies in the ROM but still without AOKP "lets **** everything in" bloat (battery %, power key camera shutter, custom autobrightness levels, T9 dialer). Wanted those on BB, where they were out of question, since BB is more stockish.
- no weird governors, OC or voltages, just ondemand/cfq as on stock, don't use deep idle
So for me, it's a good sweet spot between stock and custom ROM.*
*Disclaimer:
I've used BB for months & AOKP for 2 weeks, both on SimpleKernel, which is basically stock with added BLN&Voodoo. I don't fiddle around with OC/Governors. Those are my observations and I don't intend to debate "why you didn't use "xxkernal v.9302".

stellar said:
For trebuchet if you check (or unchecked I forget) the join with apps setting it makes the launcher just as smooth as gingerbread
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Thanks!!! That seems to work most of the times!

madd0g said:
Well, I switched from Bugless Beast today to latest CM9 nightly (15.4, not the KalimochoAz version posted on here).
Haven't tried CM9 for a while and it surprised me, speed wise and stuff integrated in it. I'm a fan of stockish ROM's, that's why I used BB since ICS came out. What made me stay is:
- integration of BLN & Voodoo sound, meaning I don't need to run those 2 apps in BG (saves memory ofcourse, I'm a sucker for optimization)
- BigMem is quite noticeable, also RAM free right after clean flash is about 200MB (vs 140MB on AOKP, which is the ****tiest, meaning when I use the apps I have in BG, there was constant launcher restart - low on RAM)
- seems like internal storage speed is faster, I noticed level loading on Where's my water game is perhaps the same as on GB (was waay slower when ICS came out)
- nice UI optional goodies in the ROM but still without AOKP "lets **** everything in" bloat (battery %, power key camera shutter, custom autobrightness levels, T9 dialer). Wanted those on BB, where they were out of question, since BB is more stockish.
- no weird governors, OC or voltages, just ondemand/cfq as on stock, don't use deep idle
So for me, it's a good sweet spot between stock and custom ROM.*
*Disclaimer:
I've used BB for months & AOKP for 2 weeks, both on SimpleKernel, which is basically stock with added BLN&Voodoo. I don't fiddle around with OC/Governors. Those are my observations and I don't intend to debate "why you didn't use "xxkernal v.9302".
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Thanks you very much for your observations! I want superfast stockish roms too, so I guess I will stick to the latest nightly for the moment.

Muvolt said:
Thanks you very much for your observations! I want superfast stockish roms too, so I guess I will stick to the latest nightly for the moment.
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Today, I'm trying out the 1200 OC, works completely stable so far, playing with the phone over half an hour now. 1400 rebooted after couple minutes. Try it out !
About brightness decrease, you need to enable it in extra auto-brightness settings at the bottom.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2

madd0g said:
Today, I'm trying out the 1200 OC, works completely stable so far, playing with the phone over half an hour now. 1400 rebooted after couple minutes. Try it out !
About brightness decrease, you need to enable it in extra auto-brightness settings at the bottom.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks for the tip! Do you know what actually happens when "system update" detects an update? What is it actually after? An official post 4.0.4 update or a CyanogenMod update? Also, what happens in each situation? Can it be updated OTA?

Muvolt said:
Thanks for the tip! Do you know what actually happens when "system update" detects an update? What is it actually after? An official post 4.0.4 update or a CyanogenMod update? Also, what happens in each situation? Can it be updated OTA?
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K, back to stock values, because after some time on 1200 sensors stopped working.
Nope, OTA won't work, the update is for CM I think.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2

Well I've tried most of the best out there and I think cm9 is far the smoothest rom out there. So stick with it. If you want to enhance ur experience with it then try pics reloaded I just love it.
Now the only thing left is search key mod foe recent apps to be modded with cm9 v6 cuz I tried the latest and it wipes out a lot of my options.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Have you checked out the ICS ROM Benchmark Chart? Surprisingly, CM9 is ranked way at the bottom.

turmoil4eva said:
Well I've tried most of the best out there and I think cm9 is far the smoothest rom out there. So stick with it. If you want to enhance ur experience with it then try pics reloaded I just love it.
Now the only thing left is search key mod foe recent apps to be modded with cm9 v6 cuz I tried the latest and it wipes out a lot of my options.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
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Just made it for recent 15.4 build, should work on v6 I think : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25022665&postcount=216
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Poriotis said:
Have you checked out the ICS ROM Benchmark Chart? Surprisingly, CM9 is ranked way at the bottom.
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Screw benchmarks, usage experience counts and it's not measurable.

Agreed those who actually perform better in bench mark end up being a nuisances. If u want a daily driver stick with cm9 its glitch free.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

I'm using CM9. Last rom I tried was AOKP build 32, but I went back to CM9.

About GamerzRom, Stock ROMs vs CyanogenMod

Hello everyone,
After long tests:
Stock firmwares vs AOSP Roms
Previously, stock roms was better for gaming. They were have best 3D performance with very little overclock. And sensors was better on stock rom.
After JW8, games running much faster than old releases. Even better than old froyo gaming performance.
So I deicided to slimming the stock roms, dying them. cool blue color, adding some tweaks to increase performance, replacing some ram hungry things with ram friendly alternatives, adding some good features that never implemented before, using all features with no lose from gaming performance. This was my focus about GamerzRom.
CyanogenMod is cool.
But about 2 month ago,
Thats why I stick stock ROMs1- Gaming performance was worse than stock.
2- Accelerometer and other sensors were unresponsible and impossible to play games with them.
3- Filesystem was confusing us. (datadata problems and lags)
4- Radical changes in short times needs full wipe which I don't like it.
5- Camera was worse than stock roms, especially the 720p recording.
6- Stock ROMS was faster overal.
When I look cyanogenmod these days after very detailed benchmarks today again;
1- Gaming performance and 3D performance is much better than stock roms. (System UI priority decreased and gaming is very quality.)
2- Accelerometer and other sensors are BETTER and more responsive than stock (Accelerometer delay is 20 ms on stock roms, 10 ms on cyangeonmod.)
3- Filesystem is much better - faster than stock with new layout.
4- No radical changes and everyday cyangeonmod team and community adding new features to it.
5- Camera is very smooth and much funnier than stock rom. Benchmarked both. They exactly same. But JellyBean camera features are new destinty.
6- Cyanogenmod 10 is faster OVERALL.
7- Webbrowsing is much better on cyangeonmod 10.
8- You got 390 mb RAM + 720p recording with devil kernel. (Which is 364 mb ram on stock)
9- You can take videos with front cam on cyanogenmod 10.
10- Instantly getting new updates from google to our device. (Latest android features)
11- HW Acceleration is very important for todays devices. Gingerbread is totally crap for most of apps including tapatalk.
12- Sound quality is much better on AOSP roms and you got more chance to tweak it.
13- There are too much reasons that I don't really remember.
14- Touchscreen is much responsive on this one.
For sure, I got my own codes and implementions for AOSP roms. But I have a crappy PC which running a 32 bit Arch-Linux.
Sadly, I need a 64-bit PC and can't compile ROM's on 32 bit PC.
I think from now I can't make more than cyanogenmod team and I highly recommend my users to switching Cyanogenmod 10.
Only negative effects of cyanogenmod is;
- You can't make video calls
That's all.
My suggestion for a combiantion.
-Latest CyanogenMod nightly.
-Devil kernel
As I reminded. You have no reasons to stay on crappy gingerbread with a half hw-accelerated browser.
Upgrade your phone now...
And if you want to donate me because of works I did until today, please donate derteufel1980 or pawitp. Because they doing much more than me.
About GameBooster etc.. We are working like a hurricane. You will get what you paid and much more. Thanks for supporting us.
IMPORTANT:
- Give your blessings.
- Renounce your rights for me in this.
(Or how we must tell this in English. That's just important about my religion.)

burakgon said:
Hello everyone,
After long tests:
Stock firmwares vs AOSP Roms
Previously, stock roms was better for gaming. They were have best 3D performance with very little overclock. And sensors was better on stock rom.
After JW8, games running much faster than old releases. Even better than old froyo gaming performance.
So I deicided to slimming the stock roms, dying them. cool blue color, adding some tweaks to increase performance, replacing some ram hungry things with ram friendly alternatives, adding some good features that never implemented before, using all features with no lose from gaming performance. This was my focus about GamerzRom.
CyanogenMod is cool.
But about 2 month ago,
Thats why I stick stock ROMs1- Gaming performance was worse than stock.
2- Accelerometer and other sensors were unresponsible and impossible to play games with them.
3- Filesystem was confusing us. (datadata problems and lags)
4- Radical changes in short times needs full wipe which I don't like it.
5- Camera was worse than stock roms, especially the 720p recording.
6- Stock ROMS was faster overal.
When I look cyanogenmod these days after very detailed benchmarks today again;
1- Gaming performance and 3D performance is much better than stock roms. (System UI priority decreased and gaming is very quality.)
2- Accelerometer and other sensors are BETTER and more responsive than stock (Accelerometer delay is 20 ms on stock roms, 10 ms on cyangeonmod.)
3- Filesystem is much better - faster than stock with new layout.
4- No radical changes and everyday cyangeonmod team and community adding new features to it.
5- Camera is very smooth and much funnier than stock rom. Benchmarked both. They exactly same. But JellyBean camera features are new destinty.
6- Cyanogenmod 10 is faster OVERALL.
7- Webbrowsing is much better on cyangeonmod 10.
8- You got 390 mb RAM + 720p recording with devil kernel. (Which is 364 mb ram on stock)
9- You can take videos with front cam on cyanogenmod 10.
10- Instantly getting new updates from google to our device. (Latest android features)
11- HW Acceleration is very important for todays devices. Gingerbread is totally crap for most of apps including tapatalk.
12- Sound quality is much better on AOSP roms and you got more chance to tweak it.
13- There are too much reasons that I don't really remember.
14- Touchscreen is much responsive on this one.
For sure, I got my own codes and implementions for AOSP roms. But I have a crappy PC which running a 32 bit Arch-Linux.
Sadly, I need a 64-bit PC and can't compile ROM's on 32 bit PC.
I think from now I can't make more than cyanogenmod team and I highly recommend my users to switching Cyanogenmod 10.
Only negative effects of cyanogenmod is;
- You can't make video calls
That's all.
My suggestion for a combiantion.
-Latest CyanogenMod nightly.
-Devil kernel
As I reminded. You have no reasons to stay on crappy gingerbread with a half hw-accelerated browser.
Upgrade your phone now...
And if you want to donate me because of works I did until today, please donate derteufel1980 or pawitp. Because they doing much more than me.
About GameBooster etc.. We are working like a hurricane. You will get what you paid and much more. Thanks for supporting us.
IMPORTANT:
- Give your blessings.
- Renounce your rights for me in this.
(Or how we must tell this in English. That's just important about my religion.)
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Maybe i can help you with building.
I have resourses for that butt only thing is i cannot provide you remote access.
Send me a pm.

I appreciate all ur work and tbh all ur roms were as great as you, hope u keep on development in general, wish u all the luck.

I will give a try to Gamezrom I am using CM9 and I am very satisfied!

[Q] Omnirom on S3 (core2 offline, camera issues )

Hi all,
i've started installing roms on my s3 in the last two weeks because i was fed up with abysmal jelly bean stock performance.
Started making images etc and pretty soon i was testing various roms. Really painless with cwm etc.
I was amazed at how much faster cm11 was and how responsive and smooth everything got. cm11 m6 wasn't as stable though is i would have liked.
I tried omnirom (4.4.2-20140513-i9300-NIGHTLY). I really like the features it has over cm11 and it IS more stable but it seems it isn't that responsive and smooth (still way better than bloated jellybean stock though) but enough of a difference to make it seems it has issues.
I noticed that core2 is always offline apart from when it's frechly booted.
On one side i don't know if it is normal. You can't see the 4 cores in cm11 so i don't know if cm11 does the same thing but i noticed that omni even isn't as smooth in for example games even when it's freshly booted and it says the four cores are running at 1400. True skate and rayman legends both run buttery smooth on cm11 without dropping a single frame at 60fps vsynced. Omni seems to stutter sometimes and and also sometimes looses vsync!!!
The fact that it's more stable and has no bluetooth dropouts as opposed to cm11 m6 makes me stick with omni...but one thing is really annoying me...THE CAMERA!
Om both google camaera, the "stock" omni camera2.apk and the cm11 camera2.apk i installed in omni the video is super slow...maybe 10 or 15 fps. Also the viewfinder really struggles to keep up for probably the exact same reason the video shooting is so bad.
Will there be a fix for that?
Ow...and i don't have multiwindow??? Is that normal.
Thanks all!

Nexus 10 is laggy...

Hi together!
I own my Nexus 10 since March 2013. Everything worked fine for me (i was always on the latest Stock Rom - did no reset etc.).
Well, by the time i noticed that the nexus has become a bit slow and laggy. Especially since I got a Nexus 5 which is just fast without any lag since christmas last year. Everything is also on stock there...
Last week I had enough and I did a factory reset. Well, compared to the Nexus 5 it still feels laggy. Every click takes a some time before something happens. It's not that bad that I couldn't use it, but it is a bit disturbing.
Main question 1: Guys, am i just confused because my Nexus 5 is that smooth, or is the Nexus 10 just simply old and too weak for KitKat.
I know, i could use some custom roms. But i am totaly ok with the Stock rom. I like it, as it is! So i don't urgently need a custom rom.
Main question 2: What possibilities do I have, to make the stock rom a little bit more smooth?
Thanks for your tips!

I've noticed that the performance seems to have slipped a bit since KitKat. Maybe its just me, but some of the 4.2.2 ROMs here were very smooth (though they are sadly discontinued now). There are still a handful of solid roms for kitkat. I haven't been on a stock ROM since the day I bought my Nexus 10 so I can't comment on stock.
You sound pretty firm about not flashing a custom ROM but I would urge you to reconsider for the boost in performance--not to mention added features. Aside from that you could try a custom kernel or various tweaks. There are some mods here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking that add a little boost through scripts like zipalign, better memory management, etc. That's about all you can do.

brGabriel said:
I've noticed that the performance seems to have slipped a bit since KitKat. Maybe its just me, but some of the 4.2.2 ROMs here were very smooth (though they are sadly discontinued now). There are still a handful of solid roms for kitkat. I haven't been on a stock ROM since the day I bought my Nexus 10 so I can't comment on stock.
You sound pretty firm about not flashing a custom ROM but I would urge you to reconsider for the boost in performance--not to mention added features. Aside from that you could try a custom kernel or various tweaks. There are some mods here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking that add a little boost through scripts like zipalign, better memory management, etc. That's about all you can do.
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I agree with ^^^^^^. Custom roms + overclock would be your best friend for an aging device. When you are used to the speed of a faster device like the nexus 5, the nexus 10 will just naturally feel slower (which it is). There is really not much you can do if you insist on staying stock. For me, I'm using mrrobinson's 4.3.1 buttered AOKP with Manta kernel, OC CPU to 1900mhz, set touchboost to cpu 1500mhz and gpu 533mhz. The device feels noticeably faster than stock, but of course it will never be as smooth/fast as your nexus 5.

Hi!
Thanks for your answers and for the confirmation of my perception.
I just don't have the time for testing so many roms, but maybe i will try one or two...
I also thought maybe I could change the CPU Govenor of Stock or Overclock it...
Well, however - it's a two year old device - that's tech live!

guitargod said:
Hi!
Thanks for your answers and for the confirmation of my perception.
I just don't have the time for testing so many roms, but maybe i will try one or two...
I also thought maybe I could change the CPU Govenor of Stock or Overclock it...
Well, however - it's a two year old device - that's tech live!
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I run 4.4.4 on my N10 with no appreciable amount of lag.
I run Slim Rom.
I don't overclock, mod kernels, etc.
This tablet doesn't need any of that.
I do run Greenify, Ad Away, and Autostarts. This keeps my tablet as snappy as the day I loaded the ROM.
Run any ROM for a while and it starts to lag. Root allows you to correct the issue.

I find it really lags when apps are updating, or when restoring apps. I never considered my Note 2 fast but it handles all of these tasks with barely a whimper. Guess # of cores is important.
Its time for a new tablet soon, but not really sure what I'm going to go with. I want to get away from Samsung's physical/capacitive buttons, but also want high res and speed.

Holy crap mine started lagging out of the blue about a week ago. I'm going to take this as a sign that a new nexus 10 is coming and google wants us to upgrade!

My Nexus 5 has really spoiled me as far as smoothness. I'm on slimkat on my Nexus 10 but I'll be trying a 4.2.2 rom to see if there is a difference as some threads around here say.

As far as KitKat Roms go, I find Liquidsmooth to be very snappy (however the YouTube app crashes are a deal breaker for making it my daily driver )
Probably the smoothest ROM I've ever run was Sabermod 4.2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292927
Also the early Eos 4.2.2 ROMs were really good too. They also had tablet mode or left-aligned navigation buttons.
There are plenty other good ones but that's just my two cents.

My advice would be to run the 'performance' CPU scheduler, which locks the CPU at 1.7ghz. Makes quite a big difference, and the impact on battery life is minor. :good:

I've installed AOKP 4.3.3 and so far it's way smoother than KK. In going to try Eos 4.2.2 and see how it does.

The nexus 10 is not too weak for kitkat
I find that Nexus 10 on KitKat with a custom rom and kernel runs very smooth and fluid (at least as fluid as nexus 4 which is very good).
Personally I run official Omnirom 4.4.4 with franco kernel r16. I have also flashed bionic and dalvik optimized libraries which are actually intended for qualcomm devices - but by some magic work well on my nexus 10 and improve performance in benchmarks by as much as 20%! And browser and interface feels much smoother after flashing these library patches.
You can download them in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/mod-dalvik-bionic-library-optimization-t2537299
I flashed the Z2 bionic and the Moto X 4.4.2 dalvik files. (They work on 4.4.4). Flash patches before flashing custom kernel. (download 4.4.4 KTU84P stock library also and flash in case you get a bootloop after flashing the optimized libraries)