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So besides extra apps and features... would there be any changes performance wise.
Could i expect any optimizations for filesystem (tho ginger should be ext4 already), better multitasking / cpu and ram management. Or would ICS actually use more system resources.
So if i were not to upgrade cuz its the latest and to "go with the flow" .. .what real advantages would i have on u8800 with ICS over ginger.
And yes i know the release isnt perfect yet (but lets assume the bugs were fixed).
Or its just ...for the sake of having a new version..
The battery on ICS lasts for much more time that on GB. The performance looks nice, very fast, the wifi its faster than GB. And of course, the design of ICS its amazing!
Battery? on idle/low load or ... eg when gaming (high cpu load etc)?
But is the performance overall (gaming mainly - aint gonna notice much with most apps anyways).
Also hows the ICS rooting (the aurora one) - already rooted?
Any features for the gaming side (like better opengl etc).
ofc x5 sets hardware limits (unless even ginger doesn't unlock its full potential).
I say about battery when I stay many hours with wifi on surfing, downloading, etc etc..
I didnt tested with games...
I think I have my ICS rooted, but know you ask, i will confirm that LOL
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Also hows the ICS rooting (the aurora one) - already rooted?
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It's installed on top of rooted oficial 2.3.5 so yes, ofc it is rooted
Performance is considerably better than stock 2.3, about par with MIUI 2.3. Game performance is excellent, however beware that some games may not work because they're just not compatable with ICS. There are also apps not compatable with ICS, so if there's anything you desperately want to use with ICS, check the developer's info first.
If all bugs were fixed, it'd be AMAZING! Performance is good, everything works awesomely. My only problem is the random crashes/reboots, which is, as said, a bug, so if that was fixed I'd be happy
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It's installed on top of rooted oficial 2.3.5 so yes, ofc it is rooted
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I don't think it's exactly installed on top of 2.3.5. You need to do the official upgrade first to update the file system to ext4 (I think...)
I think you have to try it to see for your self.
I was afraid that changing to ics would make my phone not as good or fast as te official... but believe me, it's like I have a completely new phone.
It's much faster in every thing and the battery lasts much more that GB.
Wireless speed is faster but ping is higher.
Go for Aurora mod and you wont regret it.
With the clockworkmod it's very easy to change back to official 2.3.5 anyway.
I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
cheers
incorrect.
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I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
cheers
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What? ICS is more powerfull than any blur rom...
way better than GB bro
I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me
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I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me
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video playback (HW decoding) and flash player are what's holding me back.
On the rom that you tried, have you tried those functions?
Honestly, if I didn't have a lapdock I would be using jokesax build as my daily driver. It does everything I need it to do smoothly. Only problem is when you plug it in the lapdock, it's just an android tablet with no touch screen. Using that trackpad as your finger is not fun. Otherwise, the CM9 stuff is great.
Okay so the tegra drivers for ICS are present in the CM9 roms or is it some bespoke driver?
H/W decoding and camcorder are what keep me away from the ICS roms atm.
Thanks
Any custom can be good!
Correct me if Im wrong but as far as I can tell the big differences between ICS and GB are seen in stock roms.
And Custom Rom is USUALLY zipaligned, deodexed, converted to ext4.
Sometimes Developers (like notorious) build awesome mix of both, and put in they're own unique tweeks. Notorious's Neutrino 2.6 for instance runs graphics entirely from the GPU among some other tweeks, and you WILL NOT find a smoother faster rom. WILL NOT!
Now the only real ways we have to test out phones "performance" is with benchmarking apps like antutu and quandrant. But honestly their outcomes tend to vary so much, its hard to go by what they say.
But just so everyone knows, my best bechmark "score" on antutu was 7047 with cm7 oc'd to 1.45 (which is gingerbread by the way)
Ive benched every rom from all of Jokers cm9's, to every miui (GB&ICS) as well as all the CM7's and builds based off them (neutrino, morrisoftgen). Even BLUR based roms like dorians redpill and The Darkside by nottich.
All im saying is that I think both builds have the potential to be equally as powerful as the eachother.
PLEASE if Im completly wrong about ANY of this I would like to be corrected, but please make sure its with CORRECT information, lol.
Thanks!
CM9 anTuTu
Also, the best score on antutu ive gotten on any one of the cm9 jokersax builds with faux 1.45 oc kernel was about 6900!
So, so far Custom GB roms are best so far according to benches
I think the gb rooms perform a little bit faster...using cm9 4.0 jokersax and its laggy opening my app drawer and little laggy moments too..cm7 was a little bit faster though imo
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the ICS ROMs still aren't very good with 2D hardware acceleration. And that means 2D is still gonna be slow and jerky.
ICS
I am running with jokersax ics rom, it is great, and the performance is better than the OTA 2.3.5 from Bell.. it took a bit to get the bootloader unlocked, etc.. it seems like I flash roms daily now... Unfortunately, there are still bugs... the most utd rom does not seem to take pictures properly, causes the app to lock up, and the video cam is no usable at all.. :\ I have reverted back to the 0.3.3 rom, and it will take pictures... as far as 2d/3d games are concerned, I play world of goo, hot pursuit, angry birds space and they all run great...
Motorola has ics update in progress as we speak, and they should be rolling out in a couple months, which means any lost code or functions that are n/a now will be rippable from the official... so either way, you can use the ota now or get a taste of ICS with a few problems...
flashing only takes about 5 minutes anyhoo, so its not like you can't switch back and forth....
I find ICS to perform a little quicker, my 2 cents.
Performance
Personally I have used Jokersax's and turl's builds (using turl now, but downloading jokersax 0.4.4 now). Both have really very good performance, especially compared to stock, I would say they outperform it by a long way, but yea, 2D graphics aren't brilliant and the camera was borked (although jokersax has apparently fixed that). I would say definitely change to 4.0.4 just because it is the latest android version and everything about it is soo nice, no blur to bog it down and while I am sure that many 2.3 roms can perform better, sometimes, it is best to choose user experience.
im on turl's latest and find scrolling to be so utterly smooth on ics easily replicating the smooth scrolling experiene on iphone whereas GB always had that slight jittery scroll which always annoyed me. I use apex launcher which i find to be smoother than trebuchet and with that all in all id say performance seems smoother than back on GB
I'm using CM9 both on HPtouchpad and Atrix.
And I can say that Atrix's 2d acceleration is not perfect yet.
It is almost perfect when we scroll lists.
But not when we scroll home screen with wallpaper scroll option.
And some people will think that browser's acceleration is perfect,
but it is not yet when it comes to complex web page.
It can be even more faster. I found that when I used cm9 on hp touchpad.
(Of course, turl and jokersax are doing great job. We have to blame motorola and nvidia )
I find cm9 to work very well, although there are the browser issues mentioned elsewhere.
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hello,
i am just a system administrator at the xUSSR and have experience with building linux/*nix machines/environments/fixing software/sources/debugging it and etc.
i'v got my exynos note3 last weekend and was thinking about custom firmware. there is no real alternative for users except modification of samsung firmwares right now. easy alternative.
we actually can get (partially port/adapt) everything we want from cyanogenmod and make it feel like real cyanogenmod while sitting on firmware that based on samsung one. why noone done/tryed to do that before?
what exactly you want from cyanogenmod on note3?
i liked cyanogenmod for keeping it clean and giving user vanilla experience, ota updates and keeping awesome features that android drop like app permission manager that was dropped in 4.4 in favor of google-play policy.
Only reason i'm not using cm is becouse of no TW camera :/
Everything else is better on cm: simple, stock apps, themes, no bloat, etc..
Everyone want cm but nobody doing a port for n900
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Everyone is waiting for vanilla version or CM 11 for exynos device. nobody has succeeded yet. But something is happening now. We like all the features in CM. So we are waiting for one.
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CM can never be alternative of stock galaxy note 3 rom. I need pen function to work with but CM does not support. Also camera application of cm is not user friendly,
I love Cyanogenmod, have used it for 2 years on my previous phone.
But like @dhruva7 said. I want a perfectly working camare and pen thingy.
Everything just has to work. I don't think anyone bought this phone just for it's browser.
So if theres S-pen functionality and a descent camera application that does 13mp photo's and still can film in 4k and slomo, I'm in! :victory:
from the OP: "i liked cyanogenmod for keeping it clean and giving user vanilla experience, ota updates and keeping awesome features that android drop"
Also: fast as hell, less memory clutter, the phone is snappier, everything feels better plus you get all the Google uniform interface design instead of T/W's crap where every program looks like it was designed from a different class of kindergarden children.
Cyanogenmod is an amazing rom, full of features, clean & fast, and with the constant updates it gets better and better
The folks above said it all.
Pros of CM:
- with the monster of a processor with 4 cores running @ 2.3 gHz (in your Exynos case, 4 @ 1,9 gHz and 4 @ 1,3 gHz), s**tload of RAM and so on, the CM is "fast as hell", which is an understatement. On any TouchWiz based ROM the usable limit is 2740 MB, and on boot around 1-1,2 GB are already busy with Samsung's bloat. On CM the max is 2840, and on boot the already busy memory is not a lot, I've managed to cut it down to around 600 MB, which leaves... 2.2 GB free.
- with CM, you're always with the latest possible base of Android.
- with CM, you get circa 26 GB of free storage, TW ROMs give you 22 max.
Long story short, if you intend to use the Note for some awfully heavy duty processing and you want to eke out every shred of resources it has, CM (or for that matter, any AOSP based ROM) is the way to go.
Cons of CM:
- it takes many nightly updates before you get a good really stable version, you have no idea what bugs might be within a nightly.
- the Note is named that way for a reason. xD That thing has a Wacom digitizer which allows the use of that nifty S-Pen and it's abilities, also, I shamefully must admit, it's fun as hell to use. However, Samsung are being businessmen in this regard, some might go as far as calling them d**ks, because the SDK for that pen is not open source, therefore, devs are not able to put software for it into any AOSP ROM.
- yes, the Camera. Samsung's camera app also is not open source, and you take noticeably better photos with it than with the AOSP camera.
Summary: being a sysadmin, you're able to control your server with an Android device, I'm not sure if that is loading the phone a lot or not, but if it does, and you use that Note for processing more than casual use (photos, doodling and drawing, etc.), CM is what you probably need.
Otherwise, TW based ROM would be better.
P.S. The best phone for heavy duty processing right now would be the OnePlus One, it has the Note's 3 gigs of ram, 4 cores running at 2,5 gHz, and CM is it's STOCK firmware.
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
Mr:L said:
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
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? rom is best
Stay with stock rom because customized roms cuts a lot of samsung functions like spen and gestures goodies
Mr:L said:
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
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Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
sirobelec said:
Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
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Thanks bro! :angel: you just answered my all question.
sirobelec said:
Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
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great great great advise and good rom listing advise
Hello, I am a user of XSP since August 2013, I have been using this device as my only device since then, and I can tell that I tried every ROM that came out for this device, maybe I can share a little bit of my experience if you let me ..
I am not a developer or anything, but I can help with something at least
Since we got our device we couldn't stand for one particular ROM, we always had to keep changing ROMs so we can get "better" performance, and frankly that wasn't great for most of us, I mean who would want to see his device not in a good performance where we can see lots of lower-price-devices like Xperia M (that has nearly the same support from SONY) get a better performance, and for the word "performance" here I mean RAM management, touch response, the use of those amazing LEDs... etc and didn't mean the performance of heavy games..
we had 4.1.2 and XSP was one of the best 4.1.2 devices out there, then we got the 4.3 and we struggled to get that without any problems in the latest 205 and 207 versions, right? and here I am talking about the flickering issue of the screen, then again we had that poor RAM.. some devs made great CM11 LBL ROMs that were amazing knowing that the kernel is 4.3 and it has some limitations, they made that "High Touch Sensitivity" option, even though it did turn off every now and then but it was great, then there was this HUGE step in XSP life, which was the official support of CM and other big names .. we had an official CM11, it wasn't that great since its was never built on .207 sources (always was on .201) that means it had flickering screen problem and never had the Glove Mode high touch option, so it was petty much unusable.. the CM12.1 was another huge move, it was built on 207 and had that option....... BUT.... it is lollipop! don't you guys think that it is a little too much for XSP? I know it can be buttery smooth and great, especially with latest builds of ALL ROMs from our amazing devs, but as soon as you install facebook and some big apps on that, you go back to the bad 4.3 again, sorry for talking so much, what I am trying to say is, can't we have a UBL CM11 (4.4.4) with 207 kernel sources AND the latest glove mode implementation (of the 5.1.1 in all ROMs) ? think about it, amazing performance, no flickering, no bad RAM management, no horrible touch sensitivity.. pretty much all we need in a smartphone, isn't it? yes it's not Lollipop, yes it's not Marshmallow, but it's an idea, like any other ROM we have, I guess it would be great to have that, and a it's worth a try, I guess
thank you all for reading this (or some of it ) I was just trying to give you my idea.. and I ALWAYS appreciate all the devs work, you gave XSP a shot that SHE can never imagine (that's right, XSP is a she and I am in love with her )
Im thinking the same thing I think devs shouldnt gave all their all time to creating new roms. We have a lot of Lollipop roms, but nothing different between them.
I think, devs should improve 4.3 experience,(or 4.4 you say).
And i think, they should spend much more time to improve the SP's software limitatioms or etc like Gamma/Display Settings, 720p 60 fps camera or something like that. Because our SP can handle it but nobody creates it or works for it. Im sorry about this..
Or the SP's most important thing, The LED's We have only Discolight app (sagar29) for this beautiful LEDs, i think they can improve and create different things about LEDs and give them a life again.
But i appreciate all developers, Thank u guys, you gave a life this phone...
Same line of thinking here! When I was with an Xperia PLAY at the time we heard we didn't was going to have ICS update with is can be equal to no KitKat for the SP, so then the devs work hard and brought ICS, JB and even a working KitKat for that amazing device, but come a time that all we wanted was a powerful and optimized OS and mostly of the devs focus on bring a powerful fricken as hell optimized GB version for the XPLAY with almost 320mb of free ram on a device with less then 512 of total amount of ram, I must say I kind miss this on the SP foruns, as you said, yes its amazing that we have even in alpha state a 6.0 ROM. But I want a fully lag free ROM, ram free with better ram management that I can use for months and not changing from one sluggish ROM to other whitin a week. A thing that always get me is that on the XPLAY we have a 720p record on most kernels (Lupus Kernel, DoomKernel etc.) and for better performance (say to get more free ram and better performance) the devs created a 480p version of the kernel and was fully functional, if someone with more knowledge can answer this for me, That would be possible on the XSP?