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New to the Droid X

Hi all,
I am new to the X. I am coming from the HTC Incredible. I was running CM7. I liked it a lot. My Incredible suffered some physical damage and for the price of an insurance claim I picked up an X on Criagslist.
I am experiencing some difficulties with the X however. One of these was posted in another thread. I will recap here for the purpose of consolidating my questions.
Issues:
1. <Resolved> Unable to access the bootloader screen.
2. SD card not recognized. <Possible dead SD card slot>
3. <Resolved> Confusion on drivers required to get my device to show in a command prompt with the 'ADB Devices' command.
Details:
1. When attempting to access the boot loader screen the search button does not get me in. I power the device down. Then I hold the home and power button screen until the Droid and caution icon appear. Then the device becomes unresponsive. When I press the search button nothing happens. From here I must pull the battery to reboot.
<Resolution provided by meshdub below> Thank you.
2. The SD card is not recognized by the device. I have a new SD card. I can pop it in my PC and it works fine (shows in Windows Explorer and I am able to access and format there). When the device is plugged in to my computer the drive letter shows but when clicking on the drive it says 'Please insert a disk in drive G:'. The storage settings screen displays the following:
Total space - Unavailable
Available space - Unavailable
Mount SD card - Insert an SD card for mounting <grayed out>
Format SD card - Format (erase) the SD card <grayed out>
When I go to settings > Privacy settings > Factory Data Reset and check the Erase SD card option a message pops up stating the SD card has been removed.
3. I am trying to get the drivers needed for accessing the ADB devices via command prompt. Before downloading the Motorola driver set application, my XP machine detected and installed some drivers for the device. The device does show up in the device manager as a disk drive and CD ROM drive with the name 'Motorola MB810 USB Device'. I have since downloaded the Motorola application and the USB charging driver packages. I am unsure how to get these drivers associated with the device so I can get it to list in ADB devices to try to move forward. I have tried to uninstall and rescan for hardware in the device manager but it keeps coming back with the XP drivers.When I plug the USB cable in to my X it auto detects the hardware and drivers before I can select a different one.
<Resolution> Make sure that in the Applications settings Development settings USB Debugging is enabled.
My thought is if I can root and get a new bootloader or recovery I may be able to circumvent any existing issues with the current ROM or bootloader.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
OldTymeHockey

Please help with drivers
Okay. Well, it seems there is no help for my first post. I would like to address the drivers first.
I have downloaded the Motorola driver installation 5.0.0 from Motorola's site. I have tried many many things to get the right drivers for the ADB to recognize my device. I am having no success.
It appears Windoze is using it's own generic drivers each time I plug my device in to the USB port. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the Motorola driver application. I have uninstalled the MB810 from device manager many times. I can't get my computer to use any Motorola drivers.
EDIT:
I racked my brain while reading through the noob guide once again. It appears one step is missing from the driver install and getting the adb to recognize your device. You must enable USB debugging in the development menu of your device.

1. I assume you mean stock recovery, not bootloader. The keys have been changed in Moto's GB build. Once you get to the prompt (after holding home+power), try pressing both volume buttons. That should get you in. Navigate with volume, select with the power button.
2. This is weird... Do you have any other SD cards to test and see that it's not a defective SD slot on your phone?

meshdub said:
1. I assume you mean stock recovery, not bootloader. The keys have been changed in Moto's GB build. Once you get to the prompt (after holding home+power), try pressing both volume buttons. That should get you in. Navigate with volume, select with the power button.
2. This is weird... Do you have any other SD cards to test and see that it's not a defective SD slot on your phone?
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1. Got into recovery. Thanks.
2. I have tried three SD cards. An old 1GB, the 4GB from my Incredible, and a brand new 8GB from Sam's Club. Is there any cure for a possibly defective SD card slot?

Oldtymehockey said:
2. I have tried three SD cards. An old 1GB, the 4GB from my Incredible, and a brand new 8GB from Sam's Club. Is there any cure for a possibly defective SD card slot?
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not that I know of =/

Have you formatted it on the computer? If so, make sure you do it as fat and not ntfs.
Also, the sdcard slot being broken could be why the guy sold it?
Also, is the sdcard mounted on the computer when you have it in the droid x?
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What version of Android is on your DX? What version are you trying to get? Do you know how to SBF?
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eromrab said:
Have you formatted it on the computer? If so, make sure you do it as fat and not ntfs.
Also, the sdcard slot being broken could be why the guy sold it?
Also, is the sdcard mounted on the computer when you have it in the droid x?
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I have formatted it to FAT on my computer. It still doesn't show up in the device.
It is quite possible that is why it was sold. Live and learn.
I don't think it shows on my computer. I only see the MB810 USB device in device manager under CD ROM drives and also under disk drives. Windows Explorer shows two extra drives when plugged in. One CD ROM and one removable drive. Neither show any files in Windows Explorer.
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What version of Android is on your DX? What version are you trying to get? Do you know how to SBF?
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I am on 2.3.3. Kernel is 2.6.32.9. It was the OTA update provided by Verizon.
I was just trying to get a different recovery first to see if I could get at the SD card that way. I had CM7 on my Incredible. I intend to run CM again. I like it.
I have been reading on SBF but I don't think I need that at this point.

This may be of no help, but every time I plug my phone into my computer, I have to pull down the navigation bar and select the mass storage option from list even though it is already on it. It absolutely will not recognize it until I do this.
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All better now
Thanks for the input guys. It turns out the SD card slot wouldn't respond to anything. Cards were not recognized by 2.2, 2.3, or even in recovery.
Well, I went to the Verizon store just to ask them to look at it (playing dumb). It turns out the insurance I had covered the phone. It fell under the extended warranty. This is not normal as I bought the phone off Craigslist and it was tagged as 'customer provided equipment' but somehow it was covered.
Now I have a fresh factory refurb to work with. I have to SBF back to Froyo though because it came with 2.3.3 loaded. That is, unless someone has come up with a solution to root Gingerbread. I'm off to do my research.

How annoyed are you by MTP?

I am thinking of getting the M, but it appears the device uses MTP when you connect it a PC. I am coming from ThunderBolt, and certainly enjoyed simply mounting the SD card in Windows, then copying whatever I wanted in and out. I even recovered some files that I accidentally deleted. I would also copy files to the phone for books (in random formats) , apps (apk), videos, photos etc.
Judging by the name I would guess you can copy MP3s to phone under MTP. Can you copy other types of files? Is there a way to just mount the internal storage in Windows? Thanks!
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You should be able to copy everything, if you double click on the device in Explorer (on Windows, anyway). It should give you a display of all the folders on the device, I think.
But yes, MTP sucks. For whatever reason, it simply doesn't work with my current phone. Even on a fresh clean install of Windows 7, the driver will not install, and this is seen across multiple computers, stock ROMs and custom ones. I haven't been able to transfer data to or from my phone using the USB cable in ages. I can do it over WiFi, thankfully, and I can also just pop out the microSD card if needed, but MTP still frustrates me to no end.
It works with my tablet just fine, though, so it's the Motorola driver that's messed up.

Engadget review also reported a failure to install drivers for MTP on one of their test machines, despite best efforts to trouble shoot.
Is there even a benefit to MTP? To me it sounds like pure pain.
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cowisland said:
I am thinking of getting the M, but it appears the device uses MTP when you connect it a PC. I am coming from ThunderBolt, and certainly enjoyed simply mounting the SD card in Windows, then copying whatever I wanted in and out. I even recovered some files that I accidentally deleted. I would also copy files to the phone for books (in random formats) , apps (apk), videos, photos etc.
Judging by the name I would guess you can copy MP3s to phone under MTP. Can you copy other types of files? Is there a way to just mount the internal storage in Windows? Thanks!
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Why would you be annoyed at all, you can just mount the device as Mass Storage (just like the Thunderbrick) and move files that way. MTP is not an issue.

jimmydafish said:
Why would you be annoyed at all, you can just mount the device as Mass Storage (just like the Thunderbrick) and move files that way. MTP is not an issue.
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That's the answer I was hoping for, thank you! One last question : how do you mount the device as mass storage, using the standard Android dialog that shows up in the notification bar?
Please be patient with me, I don't have the phone yet.
Finally, my Thunder hasn't bricked yet, but it's getting close...
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cowisland said:
That's the answer I was hoping for, thank you! One last question : how do you mount the device as mass storage, using the standard Android dialog that shows up in the notification bar?
Please be patient with me, I don't have the phone yet.
Finally, my Thunder hasn't bricked yet, but it's getting close...
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It simply gives you the option when you plug it in - you can choose to mount it as usb storage, or mtp.

jntdroid said:
It simply gives you the option when you plug it in - you can choose to mount it as usb storage, or mtp.
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Not anymore! Since the JB update, the USB mass storage option is gone! This pisses me off since I need that to connect to my vehicle's audio system. WTF would they remove that feature?!

Yeah. It makes me angry... I hate mtp. Gawd Google y u no usb mass storage?!? ¡¿¡
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I've never had this problem -- until I upgraded to KK. Now my work PC will not allow me to install the MTP driver. Haven't tried yet on my home pc, but I am not optimistic. Come on! Some genius hacker dude out there has to have figured this one out by now!

Wi-Fi file explorer is my method of choice.
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I do not get it. My Maxx mounts what appears to be MTP but when in click on the phone icon in Win7 (actually Parallels desktop on a Mac) the internal SD is mounted! Just like before. That is with 444. So is 442 way different on the older msm8960s?
Now on a Mac it is doodoo.

I can access both SD cards from PC without any problem in MTP mode. I installed the drivers while I was on JB I think

mrkhigh said:
Wi-Fi file explorer is my method of choice.
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I used to use that on my old phone but forgot about it. I'll have to give it another go. Thanks for the reminder.

[Q]Transferring files on cm9/10?

I have been trying to search the forum but having no luck. I switched from cm7 to cm10 recently and I am looking for a way app/utility whatever to have my sd card mount on my pc when I plug in usb so I can transfer files to my storage partition. I was using USB Mass Storage Watcher app(I think it was called) before, but it doesn't like cm10 very much. If there is no way to see usb connection from android to pc, what would be the next best option?

Hedgerow said:
I have been trying to search the forum but having no luck. I switched from cm7 to cm10 recently and I am looking for a way app/utility whatever to have my sd card mount on my pc when I plug in usb so I can transfer files to my storage partition. I was using USB Mass Storage Watcher app(I think it was called) before, but it doesn't like cm10 very much. If there is no way to see usb connection from android to pc, what would be the next best option?
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That setting is built into CM10. Go to storage, then hit menu and USB configuration pops up. Select that. Select mass storage and back out. Now when you connect to PC both emmc and sdcard should show up as disk drives. The only app that I might use with that is my modified NookColorUMS app that I modified to work on CM9. It also works on CM10. Get it on my tips thread linked in my signature. And read about it in the second post in that thread. It allows you to mount any partition you want with UMS.

You might also look into using one of the transfer-over-wifi apps to get your data files onto Nook, I use WifiFileExplorer to this effect and never hassle with USB cords/connexions. Quick and sees everything.

Anniraff said:
You might also look into using one of the transfer-over-wifi apps to get your data files onto Nook, I use WifiFileExplorer to this effect and never hassle with USB cords/connexions. Quick and sees everything.
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Love Wifi File Explorer Pro. I haven't taken an sd card out of my devices in months.

Thanks
Beautiful, I didn't think to hit menu after I was in the storage settings. I'll check out the wifi explorer too. Thank you guys!

[Q] Rooted Nook not recognized by ADE

I rooted my Nook Color with Jelly Bean to SD card. It has been working great.
I want to borrow a book from my public library but it is only available as a PDF book. I installed ADE on my laptop and can download the book to ADE. But when I plug in my Nook Color ADE does not see it. When I go to My Computer, my NC is listed so I know my laptop does see the NC.
If I go to stock NC, ADE recognizes it. I enabled USB debugging but that did not help. Does anyone have any ideas? I have posted on 2 other forums and have not gotten any answers.
Thanks.

haymeadowfield said:
I rooted my Nook Color with Jelly Bean to SD card. It has been working great.
I want to borrow a book from my public library but it is only available as a PDF book. I installed ADE on my laptop and can download the book to ADE. But when I plug in my Nook Color ADE does not see it. When I go to My Computer, my NC is listed so I know my laptop does see the NC.
If I go to stock NC, ADE recognizes it. I enabled USB debugging but that did not help. Does anyone have any ideas? I have posted on 2 other forums and have not gotten any answers.
Thanks.
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If you mean ADB, then the reason your PC does not recognize it is the PID is changed. Look in my NC tips thread and read the section on ADB.
Or did you mean Adobe Digital Edition? What does that have to do with USB Debugging? That is what confused me. It could be because USB Mass Storage does not work with jellybean on the NC. Only MTP works. There is a setting in settings, storage, advanced, USB configuration, but I don't think it works.
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leapinlar said:
If you mean ADB, then the reason your PC does not recognize it is the PID is changed. Look in my NC tips thread and read the section on ADB.
Or did you mean Adobe Digital Edition? What does that have to do with USB Debugging? That is what confused me. It could be because USB Mass Storage does not work with jellybean on the NC. Only MTP works. There is a setting in settings, storage, advanced, USB configuration, but I don't think it works.
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I did mean Adobe Digital Edition. Someone in another forum mentioned the USB debugging. I changed the setting in the USB configuration to mass storage and my laptop no longer recognized the NC and ADE also did not recognize it. So I changed it back to MTP. So I'm still looking for help.

haymeadowfield said:
I did mean Adobe Digital Edition. Someone in another forum mentioned the USB debugging. I changed the setting in the USB configuration to mass storage and my laptop no longer recognized the NC and ADE also did not recognize it. So I changed it back to MTP. So I'm still looking for help.
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I told you USB mass storage in jellybean is broken. So if ADE requires it, you are SOL.
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leapinlar said:
I told you USB mass storage in jellybean is broken. So if ADE requires it, you are SOL.
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Yeah I get that. But I was hoping someone would know of another way to get borrowed library PDF books to a reader app on the rooted NC.

You can always use drop box. The ES file explorer app has drop box integration and let's you copy and paste from drop ox folders to your SD card storage.
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haymeadowfield said:
Yeah I get that. But I was hoping someone would know of another way to get borrowed library PDF books to a reader app on the rooted NC.
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I just updated my NC CM10 to the 4/14 version. I tested the USB mass storage option and it works. So I don't know if that is new or has been fixed for a while. You might try the latest build. Once you set up USB mass storage, you must tap the authorize button on the NC once you plug it in.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

leapinlar said:
I just updated my NC CM10 to the 4/14 version. I tested the USB mass storage option and it works. So I don't know if that is new or has been fixed for a while. You might try the latest build. Once you set up USB mass storage, you must tap the authorize button on the NC once you plug it in.
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So are you finding that version pretty stable? I have 12/31/2012 and it has been working out really well. All the apps I have installed have been running smoothly so far. I hate to update to something that is buggy when I have a version that is working well. On the other hand, getting the USB mass storage working is really a plus especially if it works for getting the PDF books.

Yes, it is stable.
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leapinlar said:
Yes, it is stable.
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Thanks for the info. I'm going to update.

leapinlar said:
Yes, it is stable.
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I feel foolish asking this question but here goes. As I have never updated CM10 on SD card, what is the best way to do this without losing anything? Do I download the nightly and then drop into the root folder on my SD card which would mean removing from Nook and putting it into my laptop? Or do I go thru Settings and About Tablet?
Thanks.

haymeadowfield said:
I feel foolish asking this question but here goes. As I have never updated CM10 on SD card, what is the best way to do this without losing anything? Do I download the nightly and then drop into the root folder on my SD card which would mean removing from Nook and putting it into my laptop? Or do I go thru Settings and About Tablet?
Thanks.
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You take the card out and copy the CM zip to the boot partition. Put the card in and boot to cyanoboot menu (hold n key) and select SD Recovery. It will boot and install the new CM10.
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leapinlar said:
I just updated my NC CM10 to the 4/14 version. I tested the USB mass storage option and it works. So I don't know if that is new or has been fixed for a while. You might try the latest build. Once you set up USB mass storage, you must tap the authorize button on the NC once you plug it in.
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So I did the update and it went flawlessly. I went to storage, then USB connection and then mass storage. I'm not seeing the authorize button once I plug it in. I rebooted and still not finding it. So what am I missing?

haymeadowfield said:
So I did the update and it went flawlessly. I went to storage, then USB connection and then mass storage. I'm not seeing the authorize button once I plug it in. I rebooted and still not finding it. So what am I missing?
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A screen should pop up that says "turn on USB" or something like that. Pull down the notification area and see if there is anything there. More drives should show up in your PC Windows explorer. They will show no contents until you hit that turn on USB button.
Edit: be sure to turn off USB debugging too.
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leapinlar said:
A screen should pop up that says "turn on USB" or something like that. Pull down the notification area and see if there is anything there. More drives should show up in your PC Windows explorer. They will show no contents until you hit that turn on USB button.
Edit: be sure to turn off USB debugging too.
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Thanks. After turning off USB debugging I got the pop up screen. It now shows up in Adobe Digital Editions.

[Q] Computer Doesn't See USB

I am running CM10.1 from a mSD card. When I connect my NC to my computer via USB cable it isn't recognized. The NC is recognized with the mSD card out of the NC and booted into the NC's OS. Computer OS is Linux. I ran fdisk -l just to check and card in it is not seen. Is the NC recognized only with no card in or what. The CM10 was unlocked. I wanted to transfer some book files over. Will I have to pull the card and plug it into my computer?

Try going into settings > storage > USB computer connection and make sure that your device isn't showing up as a Media Device (MTP).
In other words, ensure that your device is being mounted as a Mass storage device.

serine said:
Try going into settings > storage > USB computer connection and make sure that your device isn't showing up as a Media Device (MTP). In other words, ensure that your device is being mounted as a Mass storage device.
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Thank you for the answer but I suspect that was a Windows answer not a Linux answer but it gives me a place to start looking. I'll try running running "lsusb" again.

Ray2047 said:
Thank you for the answer but I suspect that was a Windows answer not a Linux answer but it gives me a place to start looking. I'll try running running "lsusb" again.
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I meant to try inspecting the settings on your nook. Mass storage devices should appear irrespective of the computer platform. I've used my NC as a usb volume to move files to-and-from linux devices before.
Since you mention that the computer can see your NC as a storage device but not the SD card, it may be an issue with a setting on the NC (not the computer). Or not! One thing about linux is that there is quite a bit of variability between different users' setups.

serine said:
Try going into settings > storage > USB computer connection .
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Thanks for your patience. I do not show a USB computer connection in storage. What I did notice though maybe not related is that Unmount SD card and Erase SD card are grayed out when the USB cable is plugged in.

There should be a menu icon - 3 dots in the upper right in settings>storage
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That did it thank you. It was set on MTP and I moved it to mass storage.
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There should be a menu icon - 3 dots in the upper right in settings>storage
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