Root question - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello. I have the I9505 model. I flashed an update with odin. After that i wanted to make my counter go to 0. I rooted with the chainfire and used the triangle away. All ok. Now how can i revert back to official status in order to get the updates OTA or via KIES without setting the counter at 1 again? I am new to this so be patient with me and don't get angry if what i ask is very easy... Thank you in advance...

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simply flash a stock firmware via odin

Blackwolf10 said:
simply flash a stock firmware via odin
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Won't this trigger the counter to go to 1?

icy20 said:
Won't this trigger the counter to go to 1?
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it's not a custom Rom so no
let's assume it does didn't u ever heard of removing the binary counter

Blackwolf10 said:
it's not a custom Rom so no
let's assume it does didn't u ever heard of removing the binary counter
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The first time i flashed an official firmware the counter went to 1. So it happens. About the other is there any link i can use? Thanx?

icy20 said:
The first time i flashed an official firmware the counter went to 1. So it happens. About the other is there any link i can use? Thanx?
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actually i found an answer in ur own question the only need to reset the counter is for taking it to a service center so u can use odin for the updates and stuff and then use chainfire's app for resetting the counter and don't forget to unroot if u need a service

Probably there is something I am missing. There is nothing wrong with my device. I just want to be on the safe side. U say that I just need to unroot. The only way I know of unrooting is by flashing through Odin which sets the counter trigger. So again there is a problem with warranty. Is there anything else u meant in your previous post? @Blackwolf10
If I understand correctly the whole procedure is a loop. Now I am rooted. If I want to be unrooted I flash through Odin. Then I use tr away to reset the counter so I need root again and I am again out of warranty.

icy20 said:
Probably there is something I am missing. There is nothing wrong with my device. I just want to be on the safe side. U say that I just need to unroot. The only way I know of unrooting is by flashing through Odin which sets the counter trigger. So again there is a problem with warranty. Is there anything else u meant in your previous post? @Blackwolf10
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apperently this way is just running around circles did u try checking for an update after using the triangle away if that doesnt help then i am sorry this is all i know of maybe someone more experinced can help
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and here are a few ways to unroot
http://highonandroid.com/android-ap...martphone-or-tablet-1-click-universal-method/

Hm... I saw your link at highonandriod. Using superuser in settings there is the full unroot option. Does anynody know if this does what i am trying to do?Keep the counter at 0 and showing the device official status and able to use kies and OTA updates?

icy20 said:
Hm... I saw your link at highonandriod. Using superuser in settings there is the full unroot option. Does anynody know if this does what i am trying to do?Keep the counter at 0 and showing the device official status and able to use kies and OTA updates?
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Root has nothing to do with the status, it is what you flash via Odin.
For example, if you flash CF-AutoRoot via Odin on a stock ROM and then flash a stock kernel, your devices official device WILL BE "OFFICIAL".
However, if you root your ROM and then flash CWMR, it won't matter if you unroot your phone, it will still be custom.
So to answer your question, NO it won't.
I hope I explained this well enough.

Yes u were more than helpfull. Thank you. Anyhow i unrooted it and flashed through kies the latest firm (MDM) and i am OK again. I wanted to be IN warranty because i was considering DOA for overheating but i saw that almost everyone except 1-2 exceptions has such temps. By installing 50 or so apps it reached 49-50 temps at cpu...

icy20 said:
Hm... I saw your link at highonandriod. Using superuser in settings there is the full unroot option. Does anynody know if this does what i am trying to do?Keep the counter at 0 and showing the device official status and able to use kies and OTA updates?
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Have you solved your problem?

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problem with checking for updates after rooting

hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
nielsvg said:
hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
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When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
kaalalto said:
When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
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do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
nielsvg said:
do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
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No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
kaalalto said:
No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
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i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
nielsvg said:
i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
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Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the Samsung's OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) needs root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
kaalalto said:
Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) need root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
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one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
nielsvg said:
one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
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It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
nielsvg said:
It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
kaalalto said:
I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
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today my phone gave the notification of a new update. it can download it but when trying to install it it gives an error that it cant install it ota and i have to use kies?
i better didnt root because it is a phone of my employer
As you received your OTA file, everything is back to normal. However, sometimes OTA may not work correctly. You should then update with KIES or use Odin to flash the correct version.

Any galaxy s4 i9500 Indian users with root?????

Hello friends I have a i9500 Indian version and I want to root but worried about the counter has anyone been able to root and later was the service able to detect the counter please help
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hypergamer1231 said:
Hello friends I have a i9500 Indian version and I want to root but worried about the counter has anyone been able to root and later was the service able to detect the counter please help
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Yes, no way to reset the counter atm on the I9500 and it is visible for service personal.
gee2012 said:
Yes, no way to reset the counter atm on the I9500 and it is visible for service personal.
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Thanks a ton for the reply so did the svc center void the warranty and does this mean we will have to wait till chainfire or someone can find a way to make triangle away work on the I9500.....I kinda feel sad for the exynos variant isnt there any way to root the device without losing the warranty..
hypergamer1231 said:
Thanks a ton for the reply so did the svc center void the warranty and does this mean we will have to wait till chainfire or someone can find a way to make triangle away work on the I9500.....I kinda feel sad for the exynos variant isnt there any way to root the device without losing the warranty..
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Not that i know of, it is triggered when custom software is beeing installed with Odin.
gee2012 said:
Not that i know if, it is triggered when custom software is beeing installed by Odin.
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So what am trying to check here is if i install a custom recovery which obviously will be via odin and for some reason if i have to give the phone to the svc center and i flash back to the stock rom will i be able to cover it under warranty....
hypergamer1231 said:
So what am trying to check here is if i install a custom recovery which obviously will be via odin and for some reason if i have to give the phone to the svc center and i flash back to the stock rom will i be able to cover it under warranty....
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Your counter will still be raised and the status will still show modified, if they see that they may void warranty as it is not in original condition.
I am rooted. My counter is at 0. Link to stock rom with root is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Flashing this via odin doesnt trip the counter.
hellboy13 said:
I am rooted. My counter is at 0. Link to stock rom with root is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Flashing this via odin doesnt trip the counter.
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Yup, thats the only exception Unless you want/need custom recovery.

Official 4.3 for Note 2 N7100 INDIA finaly arrived

Wait is over for my Indian bro......:good:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/19...eives-official-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
jdomadia said:
Wait is over for my Indian bro......:good:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/19...eives-official-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
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Yeah...
Here we go!
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=GT-N7100&pcode=0#firmware
Same as last leaked ))
good that its the same coz dev has already started on it
does it raise knox number
It has KNOX, so obviously it does if you don't play by their rules.
And as suspected; no Note3 features.
For me; no thanks.
Waiting for knox-free, note3 modded ROMs.
So leak is official
Of official was leak ?
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I have a rooted Note 2, so I cannot get it of course via OTA.
IS where a way to install this via mobile odin Pro?
Any thing I need to take care?
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I have a rooted Note 2, so I cannot get it of course via OTA.
IS where a way to install this via mobile odin Pro?
Any thing I need to take care?
tsk1979 said:
I have a rooted Note 2, so I cannot get it of course via OTA.
IS where a way to install this via mobile odin Pro?
Any thing I need to take care?
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I have a rooted Note 2, so I cannot get it of course via OTA.
IS where a way to install this via mobile odin Pro?
Any thing I need to take care?
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I wouldn't flash this ROM via ODIN. Some people reported installation failure and KNOX warranty void flags. Fix your Custom status with TriangleAway. Then you will be able to update over OTA, if it is already available for your provider. However, even so, I wouldn't recommend flashing this or updating. It has KNOX so you will not be able to go back if this is buggy, and you will not be able to root without loosing warranty.
Already some ppl has updated in india & reported as buttery smooth.
Can someone tell me if this update has emoji on keyboard?
Enviado de meu GT-I9505 usando Tapatalk
Update available in india of 700mb :thumbup:
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estugarda said:
It has KNOX, so obviously it does if you don't play by their rules.
And as suspected; no Note3 features.
For me; no thanks.
Waiting for knox-free, note3 modded ROMs.
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Estugarda from PCE ? xulos is here
Btw i know it has knox, i want to know will it raise counter if i flash it via ODIN ?
chuck it
No new S Pen features, or the new S Note?
#disappoint
ViD0 said:
Estugarda from PCE ? xulos is here
Btw i know it has knox, i want to know will it raise counter if i flash it via ODIN ?
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Yes, it's me.
Well, I'm not sure about raising the counter since I didn't try it myself. Some people reported it. Too early to tell.
It would be logical to make it so that it doesn't raise the flag for the first time. On the other hand, Samsung isn't really logical lately.
jdomadia said:
Wait is over for my Indian bro......:good:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/19...eives-official-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
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That link is for the N7105 mate not the N7100
Correct link:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/19...eives-official-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
estugarda said:
Yes, it's me.
Well, I'm not sure about raising the counter since I didn't try it myself. Some people reported it. Too early to tell.
It would be logical to make it so that it doesn't raise the flag for the first time. On the other hand, Samsung isn't really logical lately.
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So that means that we cant use ODIN anymore to upgrade our officially FWs? Im on stock 4.1.2 and i want to upgrade to 4.3 via ODIN and my knox counter will be 1 ? thats a cr**
estugarda said:
I wouldn't flash this ROM via ODIN. Some people reported installation failure and KNOX warranty void flags. Fix your Custom status with TriangleAway. Then you will be able to update over OTA, if it is already available for your provider. However, even so, I wouldn't recommend flashing this or updating. It has KNOX so you will not be able to go back if this is buggy, and you will not be able to root without loosing warranty.
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Thanks for your reply. I reset the counter via triangle away. But I am not sure how to fix custom status and then get OTA updata?
ViD0 said:
So that means that we cant use ODIN anymore to upgrade our officially FWs? Im on stock 4.1.2 and i want to upgrade to 4.3 via ODIN and my knox counter will be 1 ? thats a cr**
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As I said; I'm not sure about that, since I didn't try.
You should be able to flash it via ODIN. The question is; will it trigger the flag...? Some people said so. I don't know and certainly won't try. I'm waiting for knox-free...
tsk1979 said:
Thanks for your reply. I reset the counter via triangle away. But I am not sure how to fix custom status and then get OTA updata?
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Triangle Away should fix the status. You must reastart your phone any give it few minutes. It doesn't always work, but mostly yes. There are also few settings in Triangle Away. Allow tracker to run and System modified workaround. Experiment with those. And remember to leave your phone alone for few minutes before you check the status. There is a reason for that.
It certainly works for me. I'm rooted, and get OTAs.
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As I said. I'm not sure about that.
Triangle Away should fix the status. You must reastart your phone any give it few minutes. It doesn't always work, but mostly yes. There are also few settings in Triangle Away. Allow tracker to run and System modified workaround. Experiment with those. And remember to leave your phone alone for few minutes before you check the status. There is a reason for that.
It certainly works for me. I'm rooted, and get OTAs.
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Im always on stock so i dont have to reset with triangle away so my q is still : "So that means that we cant use ODIN anymore to upgrade our officially FWs? Im on stock 4.1.2 and i want to upgrade to 4.3 via ODIN and my knox counter will be 1 ? thats a cr**"
waiting for someone to confirm or deny.

[Q] Ota not possible because of customized device

Today I found out that there is a new update to my phone that is running stock 4.3 rom.
I have only rooted the phone but I can't update it with ota any more.
I only gets a message when I try to do a ota update. "Your device is customized. Update is not possible"
Is this because I have rooted the phone or is it because I have used clean up software that replace system apps with updated version?
How do I make ota working again without losing all my data? I have used triangle away but that was not enough. My device status is still custom. But my counter is now 0.
hi
Sankaboy said:
Today I found out that there is a new update to my phone that is running stock 4.3 rom.
I have only rooted the phone but I can't update it with ota any more.
I only gets a message when I try to do a ota update. "Your device is customized. Update is not possible"
Is this because I have rooted the phone or is it because I have used clean up software that replace system apps with updated version?
How do I make ota working again without losing all my data? I have used triangle away but that was not enough.
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You can still update through kies.
First aff all i would like to tell you that you cannot ever update a rooted device from the OTA provided by the manufacturer.
So unroot your device and you can surely update after that.
Sankaboy said:
Today I found out that there is a new update to my phone that is running stock 4.3 rom.
I have only rooted the phone but I can't update it with ota any more.
I only gets a message when I try to do a ota update. "Your device is customized. Update is not possible"
Is this because I have rooted the phone or is it because I have used clean up software that replace system apps with updated version?
How do I make ota working again without losing all my data? I have used triangle away but that was not enough. My device status is still custom. But my counter is now 0.
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1. Ur warranty is void (Knox 0x1) for sure.
2. U can't update ur phone via OTA coz u have rooted ur phone.
3. U can use ODIN for flash the latest firmware for ur phone
Joku1981 said:
1. Ur warranty is void (Knox 0x1) for sure.
2. U can't update ur phone via OTA coz u have rooted ur phone.
3. U can use ODIN for flash the latest firmware for ur phone
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but he can also update after unrooting device.....
sorry for any mistake but i have read about it on xda that if u unroot then u can update and then u can again root........
Piyush Pastor said:
but he can also update after unrooting device.....
sorry for any mistake but i have read about it on xda that if u unroot then u can update and then u can again root........
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He is running 4.3 and he rooted it ...... Knox 0x1... or maybe I didnt understand the first post . I mean if he void the warranty is a lil stupid lose the time unrooting, then updating by OTA/KIES and rooting it again... if u can flash it with ODIN, no?
Joku1981 said:
He is running 4.3 and he rooted it ...... Knox 0x1... or maybe I didnt understand the first post . I mean if he void the warranty is a lil stupid lose the time unrooting, then updating by OTA/KIES and rooting it again... if u can flash it with ODIN, no?
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Yes you are right sir....
But I really dont know about the guy whether he is a noob or one genius like you ......
so i just suggested some safe metod as sometimes odin may result in hard brick .. . . ......
But as i am only a 13 boy you are always correct but i may make mistakes
Piyush Pastor said:
Yes you are right sir....
But I really dont know about the guy whether he is a noob or one genius like you ......
so i just suggested some safe metod as sometimes odin may result in hard brick .. . . ......
But as i am only a 13 boy you are always correct but i may make mistakes
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Im not any genius. And Im happy one guy of 13 years old is learning with us. Im 40 and Im still learning things everyday. Enjoy :highfive:
gusm41 said:
You can still update through kies.
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That did the trick.
Unrooting and the update via ota did not work for me.
Thanks for all good answers here.

[Q] Stock installation with Knox 0x1

Hello everyone
I am now on CyanogenMod and I'm kinda sick of this "clean Android" and would like to go back to Samsung's TouchWiz.
The problem is I tripped Knox to 0x1 when I moved to CyangoenMod.
Can I go back to Stock or the Knox won't allow?
What procedure do I need to do to go back to stock?
Meyhemg said:
Hello everyone
I am now on CyanogenMod and I'm kinda sick of this "clean Android" and would like to go back to Samsung's TouchWiz.
The problem is I tripped Knox to 0x1 when I moved to CyangoenMod.
Can I go back to Stock or the Knox won't allow?
What procedure do I need to do to go back to stock?
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Download your Stock firmware from here base from your country and flash it via odin. Have a nice day.
Repulsa said:
Download your Stock firmware from here base from your country and flash it via odin. Have a nice day.
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Just download and flash regularly? Without any TriangleAway or things like that?
And what about this Knox?
Meyhemg said:
Just download and flash regularly? Without any TriangleAway or things like that?
And what about this Knox?
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Yup Just flash the stock rom and you should be fine and about Knox , dont worry about it because your phone is already voided , nothing else you can do about it until someone figure it out to reset it..and about the triangle away you can use this once you rooted your phone so that your Binary will be reset.
Repulsa said:
Yup Just flash the stock rom and you should be fine and about Knox , dont worry about it because your phone is already voided , nothing else you can do about it until someone figure it out to reset it..and about the triangle away you can use this once you rooted your phone so that your Binary will be reset.
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So after I install the stock I don't need to use Triangle Away?
Will I be able to receive OTA updates even though my Knox is 0x1?
Hi,
forget OTA updates,
and use always Odin for the updates.
It's better and faster
Yeah I know about it but anyway, will I be able to get OTA updates? And do I need to use Triangle Away after stock installation?

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