hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
nielsvg said:
hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
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When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
kaalalto said:
When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
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do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
nielsvg said:
do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
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No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
kaalalto said:
No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
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i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
nielsvg said:
i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
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Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the Samsung's OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) needs root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
kaalalto said:
Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) need root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
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one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
nielsvg said:
one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
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It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
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nielsvg said:
It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
kaalalto said:
I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
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today my phone gave the notification of a new update. it can download it but when trying to install it it gives an error that it cant install it ota and i have to use kies?
i better didnt root because it is a phone of my employer
As you received your OTA file, everything is back to normal. However, sometimes OTA may not work correctly. You should then update with KIES or use Odin to flash the correct version.
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I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance
reubenbubu said:
I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
You should have asked before you did something that you were unsure of.
At the moment there is no way of getting completely back to stock if you customize your i9500.
The Triangle Away method of resetting your counter, does not currently work for the i9500.
So , you probably cannot return to complete stock in order to get the OTA , if and when it comes.
Your choice of ROMS is HERE
Does not look like much in the way of 4.3
reubenbubu said:
I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance
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malybru said:
Hi,
You should have asked before you did something that you were unsure of.
At the moment there is no way of getting completely back to stock if you customize your i9500.
The Triangle Away method of resetting your counter, does not currently work for the i9500.
So , you probably cannot return to complete stock in order to get the OTA , if and when it comes.
Your choice of ROMS is HERE
Does not look like much in the way of 4.3
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Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)
manu44 said:
Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)
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Hi,
I am only reporting what other people have reported.
It may be that you are correct as well. :good:
I do not wish bad on anyone,but some have reported no OTA possible after they rooted.
I hope that I am wrong.
manu44 said:
Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)
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Not completely true, Samsung has instructed service points to repair faulty devices under warranty even if they are rooted. This is however a ONE time courtesy, from the second time the owner has to pay to repair if the phone is rooted.
malybru said:
Hi,
I am only reporting what other people have reported.
It may be that you are correct as well. :good:
I do not wish bad on anyone,but some have reported no OTA possible after they rooted.
I hope that I am wrong.
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Thats okay buddy..
gee2012 said:
Not completely true, Samsung has instructed service points to repair faulty devices under warranty even if they are rooted. This is however a ONE time courtesy, from the second time the owner has to pay to repair if the phone is rooted.
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Ya, but i guess it depends on region to region..
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
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i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx
Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.
Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
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gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.
A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked
U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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Hello everyone,
I have Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and using CyanogenMod's installer version a few months now.
CyanogenMod's installer has A LOT of problems and I had enough of it and want to go back to stock.
Before I moved to CM I had 4.3 and also Knox bootloader so it went to 0x1 after CM's installation.
I want to ask can I go to stock 4.3 even that my Knox is 0x1?
Do I need to use TriangleAway? If so, how?
I understood that TriangleAway requires Samsung's official kernel but I have the kernel of CM now.
Anyway, what do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
Meyhemg said:
Hello everyone,
I have Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and using CyanogenMod's installer version a few months now.
CyanogenMod's installer has A LOT of problems and I had enough of it and want to go back to stock.
Before I moved to CM I had 4.3 and also Knox bootloader so it went to 0x1 after CM's installation.
I want to ask can I go to stock 4.3 even that my Knox is 0x1?
Do I need to use TriangleAway? If so, how?
I understood that TriangleAway requires Samsung's official kernel but I have the kernel of CM now.
Anyway, what do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
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Find your stock rom specifically the one that is your region. If your phone is for example like mine, i9500 XSE which is the first three letters of Indonesia then get that specific stock file.
It's probably around 1.4 gigs. It downloads very slow. After that open Odin flash the stock rom, and your good to go. I've bricked numerous times and all I've done was revert back like this. No problems.
I don't know if you can put the stock rom in your custom recovery and flash it there, I haven't tried it yet just run Odin in administrator mode, insert the stock rom, go into download mode on your phone by pressing - vol and power, then click start.
Wait.
Stock.
Done,
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Drasztic said:
Find your stock rom specifically the one that is your region. If your phone is for example like mine, i9500 XSE which is the first three letters of Indonesia then get that specific stock file.
It's probably around 1.4 gigs. It downloads very slow. After that open Odin flash the stock rom, and your good to go. I've bricked numerous times and all I've done was revert back like this. No problems.
I don't know if you can put the stock rom in your custom recovery and flash it there, I haven't tried it yet just run Odin in administrator mode, insert the stock rom, go into download mode on your phone by pressing - vol and power, then click start.
Wait.
Stock.
Done,
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Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
Meyhemg said:
Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
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I may be wrong on this one but, if you use the auto CF root method I don't think there's a way to use the triangle method.
Therefore you're stuck on Knox. I could be wrong but I'm leaning on 70% being right..
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Meyhemg said:
Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
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I guess the binary counter is hidden somewhere. And for updates you can get OTA kies updates if you are havin stock recovery. One last thing Triangle away doesnt supports I9500.
All the best.
Mandark52 said:
I guess the binary counter is hidden somewhere. And for updates you can get OTA kies updates if you are havin stock recovery. One last thing Triangle away doesnt supports I9500.
All the best.
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Thanks.
I installed stock BTU and now my device status shows "Official" and also in download mode, without using TriangleAway.
Also, Kies works with my device again and recognizes it.
Meyhemg said:
Thanks.
I installed stock BTU and now my device status shows "Official" and also in download mode, without using TriangleAway.
Also, Kies works with my device again and recognizes it.
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Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
deandoi said:
Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
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But when I connect my phone to Kies it does recognize my phone and says I have the latest firmware and it doesn't shoe any sign that I won't be able to update through it.
I think you're mistaken with the binary counter. If the binary counter wasn't 0 and showed custom in download mode and settings only then I couldn't update via Kies.
deandoi said:
Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
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If you have a custom recovery then you wont be able to update via Kies or OTA.
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Meyhemg said:
But when I connect my phone to Kies it does recognize my phone and says I have the latest firmware and it doesn't shoe any sign that I won't be able to update through it.
I think you're mistaken with the binary counter. If the binary counter wasn't 0 and showed custom in download mode and settings only then I couldn't update via Kies.
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Oh yeah. My mistake.
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deandoi said:
Oh yeah. My mistake.
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PHEW. I thought it's the end of updates for my device.
What I did understand is that I won't be able to use Knox app on the phone. right?
Meyhemg said:
PHEW. I thought it's the end of updates for my device.
What I did understand is that I won't be able to use Knox app on the phone. right?
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Yep. You won't be able to use them. I disable them anyway.
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Hello,
i use a G900F and had root with towelroot.
i did an update on my Phone today to G900FXXU1ANG8. the installation went perfect.
but after the update i tried a new search for a software update and now i got the notification:
the operating system on your device has been modified in an unauthorized way. try downloading software updates using samsung kies on your pc or visit a customer service center.
I also use the app Phone info and when i check my knox counter it says 0X0 so normally this isnt triggerd.
when i connect to kies it just says my Phone has the latest software?
Hi,
u have just lose the Root. towelroot only work with OLD kernel.
i suggest u to Downgrade to ANG2 and use This method to gain Root and stay on this Version Until new trick was discovered to have again root on new stock roms.
Best regards
but i dont want root again. i didnt use it. so what then?
nielsvg said:
but i dont want root again. i didnt use it. so what then?
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flash newest firmware with odin
AEkiz said:
flash newest firmware with odin
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but will i be able to do an update OTA again? that's what i want again
Yes, I did it, had same problem ,flashed new version with Odin, even changed csc, didn't trigger knox and Ota now works fine.
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And don`t forget to data factory reset after flashing the stock rom
airuzzo said:
Hi,
u have just lose the Root. towelroot only work with OLD kernel.
i suggest u to Downgrade to ANG2 and use This method to gain Root and stay on this Version Until new trick was discovered to have again root on new stock roms.
Best regards
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You don't need to downgrade just flash NE2 Kernel, root and flash latest firmware kernel
Hi!
I have a problem with HealthService and Context Service is there any way to fix this?
Thanks
Phone: N910 C
Baseband: COJ5
Current Custom Rom: Electron Team Ditto Note 5
Ready to flash stock ROM version: N910CXXU2COJ5_N910CPNT2COJ1_PNT
Kindly let me know if anyone knows whether I can receive official OTA updates after flashing STOCK ROM.
Yes. After flashing stock ROM you will receive official OTA updates, that's a known thing by now
OK, but when I use TWRP with stock rom, can I still get official updates or it says "modified"?
MehmetAliCan said:
OK, but when I use TWRP with stock rom, can I still get official updates or it says "modified"?
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As far as I know, no, as you have modified the recovery. Once you modify, you should always assume you are off the update path. I prefer not to blindly take OEM updates anyway.
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as long as u have everything stock it will receive OTA with no problems. i flash to stock rom today and found out that my stock recovery mode saying DM verity verification failed.. let me knw if yours have it too.. cant find a fix for it
i thought as soon as knox was tripped thats the end of OTA updates
tigsandmitch said:
i thought as soon as knox was tripped thats the end of OTA updates
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as far as i know, if you flash stock unrooted firmware your device status in settings >about will go back to official from custom (when u were rooted) and u will be able to take OTA.
tigsandmitch said:
i thought as soon as knox was tripped thats the end of OTA updates
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KNOX will void warranty and prevent you from using KNOX apps. At least in Europe, Samsung can be forced to still repair the device if the damages can be proven to have nothing to do with root.
Got my S4 repaired twice, both times with KNOX tripped in the UK.
As long your device status is official in settings.