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Hello. I have the I9505 model. I flashed an update with odin. After that i wanted to make my counter go to 0. I rooted with the chainfire and used the triangle away. All ok. Now how can i revert back to official status in order to get the updates OTA or via KIES without setting the counter at 1 again? I am new to this so be patient with me and don't get angry if what i ask is very easy... Thank you in advance...

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simply flash a stock firmware via odin

Blackwolf10 said:
simply flash a stock firmware via odin
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Won't this trigger the counter to go to 1?

icy20 said:
Won't this trigger the counter to go to 1?
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it's not a custom Rom so no
let's assume it does didn't u ever heard of removing the binary counter

Blackwolf10 said:
it's not a custom Rom so no
let's assume it does didn't u ever heard of removing the binary counter
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The first time i flashed an official firmware the counter went to 1. So it happens. About the other is there any link i can use? Thanx?

icy20 said:
The first time i flashed an official firmware the counter went to 1. So it happens. About the other is there any link i can use? Thanx?
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actually i found an answer in ur own question the only need to reset the counter is for taking it to a service center so u can use odin for the updates and stuff and then use chainfire's app for resetting the counter and don't forget to unroot if u need a service

Probably there is something I am missing. There is nothing wrong with my device. I just want to be on the safe side. U say that I just need to unroot. The only way I know of unrooting is by flashing through Odin which sets the counter trigger. So again there is a problem with warranty. Is there anything else u meant in your previous post? @Blackwolf10
If I understand correctly the whole procedure is a loop. Now I am rooted. If I want to be unrooted I flash through Odin. Then I use tr away to reset the counter so I need root again and I am again out of warranty.

icy20 said:
Probably there is something I am missing. There is nothing wrong with my device. I just want to be on the safe side. U say that I just need to unroot. The only way I know of unrooting is by flashing through Odin which sets the counter trigger. So again there is a problem with warranty. Is there anything else u meant in your previous post? @Blackwolf10
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apperently this way is just running around circles did u try checking for an update after using the triangle away if that doesnt help then i am sorry this is all i know of maybe someone more experinced can help
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and here are a few ways to unroot
http://highonandroid.com/android-ap...martphone-or-tablet-1-click-universal-method/

Hm... I saw your link at highonandriod. Using superuser in settings there is the full unroot option. Does anynody know if this does what i am trying to do?Keep the counter at 0 and showing the device official status and able to use kies and OTA updates?

icy20 said:
Hm... I saw your link at highonandriod. Using superuser in settings there is the full unroot option. Does anynody know if this does what i am trying to do?Keep the counter at 0 and showing the device official status and able to use kies and OTA updates?
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Root has nothing to do with the status, it is what you flash via Odin.
For example, if you flash CF-AutoRoot via Odin on a stock ROM and then flash a stock kernel, your devices official device WILL BE "OFFICIAL".
However, if you root your ROM and then flash CWMR, it won't matter if you unroot your phone, it will still be custom.
So to answer your question, NO it won't.
I hope I explained this well enough.

Yes u were more than helpfull. Thank you. Anyhow i unrooted it and flashed through kies the latest firm (MDM) and i am OK again. I wanted to be IN warranty because i was considering DOA for overheating but i saw that almost everyone except 1-2 exceptions has such temps. By installing 50 or so apps it reached 49-50 temps at cpu...

icy20 said:
Hm... I saw your link at highonandriod. Using superuser in settings there is the full unroot option. Does anynody know if this does what i am trying to do?Keep the counter at 0 and showing the device official status and able to use kies and OTA updates?
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Have you solved your problem?

problem with checking for updates after rooting

hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?

nielsvg said:
hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
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When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.

kaalalto said:
When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
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do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?

nielsvg said:
do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
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No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.

kaalalto said:
No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
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i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?

nielsvg said:
i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
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Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the Samsung's OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) needs root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !

kaalalto said:
Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) need root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
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one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?

nielsvg said:
one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
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It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

nielsvg said:
It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !

kaalalto said:
I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
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today my phone gave the notification of a new update. it can download it but when trying to install it it gives an error that it cant install it ota and i have to use kies?
i better didnt root because it is a phone of my employer

As you received your OTA file, everything is back to normal. However, sometimes OTA may not work correctly. You should then update with KIES or use Odin to flash the correct version.

[Q] i9500 Want to upgrade to 4.3 after rooting

I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance

reubenbubu said:
I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
You should have asked before you did something that you were unsure of.
At the moment there is no way of getting completely back to stock if you customize your i9500.
The Triangle Away method of resetting your counter, does not currently work for the i9500.
So , you probably cannot return to complete stock in order to get the OTA , if and when it comes.
Your choice of ROMS is HERE
Does not look like much in the way of 4.3

reubenbubu said:
I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance
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malybru said:
Hi,
You should have asked before you did something that you were unsure of.
At the moment there is no way of getting completely back to stock if you customize your i9500.
The Triangle Away method of resetting your counter, does not currently work for the i9500.
So , you probably cannot return to complete stock in order to get the OTA , if and when it comes.
Your choice of ROMS is HERE
Does not look like much in the way of 4.3
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Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)

manu44 said:
Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)
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Hi,
I am only reporting what other people have reported.
It may be that you are correct as well. :good:
I do not wish bad on anyone,but some have reported no OTA possible after they rooted.
I hope that I am wrong.

manu44 said:
Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)
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Not completely true, Samsung has instructed service points to repair faulty devices under warranty even if they are rooted. This is however a ONE time courtesy, from the second time the owner has to pay to repair if the phone is rooted.

malybru said:
Hi,
I am only reporting what other people have reported.
It may be that you are correct as well. :good:
I do not wish bad on anyone,but some have reported no OTA possible after they rooted.
I hope that I am wrong.
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Thats okay buddy..
gee2012 said:
Not completely true, Samsung has instructed service points to repair faulty devices under warranty even if they are rooted. This is however a ONE time courtesy, from the second time the owner has to pay to repair if the phone is rooted.
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Ya, but i guess it depends on region to region..

[Q] Doubt about stock firmwares i9505

Im currently running 4.2.2 MH5 region DBT (Germany). I want to update my phone to 4.3. I would like to know what stock firmware from what region contains less bloatware and oIf its safe to root said firmware. I would really appreciate some help, i have searched for this information without a consice answer.

Hello? I would appreciate some help..thank you

Logicboard said:
Hello? I would appreciate some help..thank you
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Update or not is your choice. I recommend u dont update coz now u can root and flash any android 4.2.2 firmware and still having warranty. If u update ur phone to 4.3 with Kies u will have ur phone updated and with warranty.... but tc coz if u root it u will void ur warranty. If u dont care about it... update ur phone without worries :highfive:

Joku1981 said:
Update or not is your choice. I recommend u dont update coz now u can root and flash any android 4.2.2 firmware and still having warranty. If u update ur phone to 4.3 with Kies u will have ur phone updated and with warranty.... but tc coz if u root it u will void ur warranty. If u dont care about it... update ur phone without worries :highfive:
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Thanks for the reply. Btw i already have knox since it came with mh5 and it tripped..so i am wonderong of 4.3 ads any other shady things. And if you happen to know which regions stock firmware is the cleanest.
Thank you!
One of many GT I9505 users moving away from sams$*%t.

Logicboard said:
Thanks for the reply. Btw i already have knox since it came with mh5 and it tripped..so i am wonderong of 4.3 ads any other shady things. And if you happen to know which regions stock firmware is the cleanest.
Thank you!
One of many GT I9505 users moving away from sams$*%t.
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The unique firmwares with less bloatware are the ones for UNLOCKED devices. Anyway u have a guide HERE for debloat ur S4 without problems :highfive:

Joku1981 said:
The unique firmwares with less bloatware are the ones for UNLOCKED devices. Anyway u have a guide HERE for debloat ur S4 without problems :highfive:
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Thanks a lot for your help! I appreciate it.
One of many GT I9505 users moving away from sams$*%t.

[Q] Return My S4 505 to stock

Hi
I need to return my S4 to Samsung for a warranty repair. I can't find my original nand back up. I need a link to uk stock roms please to flash in odin I do believe. And stock recovery. If this is done will it be back to stock and no counter?? I've not updated bootloader so no Knox counter.
Also will this make it Kies update able again???
Cheers People
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Hi
I need to return my S4 to Samsung for a warranty repair. I can't find my original nand back up. I need a link to uk stock roms please to flash in odin I do believe. And stock recovery. If this is done will it be back to stock and no counter?? I've not updated bootloader so no Knox counter.
Also will this make it Kies update able again???
Cheers People
Robbo
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Hello mate, If you did not updated your phone on 4.3 samsung stock firmware then please feel free to download the 4.2.2 from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it via odin by selecting PDA . then send it back have a nice day.

Hi
Thanks for the reply but it just takes me to the home page of sammobile. And what do you mena by send it back?? Thanks??
Do these firmwares also flash stock recovery??
Cheers Robbo
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Hello mate, If you did not updated your phone on 4.3 samsung stock firmware then please feel free to download the 4.2.2 from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it via odin by selecting PDA . then send it back have a nice day.
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Robbo106 said:
Hi
Thanks for the reply but it just takes me to the home page of sammobile. And what do you mena by send it back?? Thanks??
Do these firmwares also flash stock recovery??
Cheers Robbo
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Hello again , you need to sign up sir in order to check it out then click the Link that i gave you and download the stock rom that you need , once you flash this stock rom from samsung, you should good to go to send it for warranty/repair. more to say just like the first time you bought your phone. have a nice day.

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Hello again , you need to sign up sir in order to check it out then click the Link that i gave you and download the stock rom that you need , once you flash this stock rom from samsung, you should good to go to send it for warranty/repair. more to say just like the first time you bought your phone. have a nice day.
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Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
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Let me makes things clear for you mate , right now i have an old bootloader (No Knox warranty void, when i go to download mode) means i can flash any 4.2.2 firmware without having any knox void warranty. this is what i do i flash a pre-rooted rom then use a triangle away to reset the binary and use Phil recovery and flash any 4.3 custom rom i want! but if you need to send your phone to samsung because there's a hardware problem , feel free to flash a 4.2 from you country.(Since more likely after they fix your phone they will prolly update it to 4.3) remember flashing a 4.3 mk9 stock rom means a new bootloader/Knox void warranty 0x0 willl be activate.So if you flash root/custom rom that should void your warranty to 0x1 Please feel free to check more about Knox from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832

Robbo106 said:
Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
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1- Ur phone is unbranded? MK9 use android 4.3. I will tell ya the correct firmware for u if u are lil confused
2- If u root it u will void ur warranty. Ur knox will be 0x1

Repulsa said:
Let me makes things clear for you mate , right now i have an old bootloader (No Knox warranty void, when i go to download mode) means i can flash any 4.2.2 firmware without having any knox void warranty. this is what i do i flash a pre-rooted rom then use a triangle away to reset the binary and use Phil recovery and flash any 4.3 custom rom i want! but if you need to send your phone to samsung because there's a hardware problem , feel free to flash a 4.2 from you country.(Since more likely after they fix your phone they will prolly update it to 4.3) remember flashing a 4.3 mk9 stock rom means a new bootloader/Knox void warranty 0x0 willl be activate.So if you flash root/custom rom that should void your warranty to 0x1 Please feel free to check more about Knox from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
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Yes I understood that. I'm in the same situation as you as in the way I flash ROMS. I didn't realise that the counter still worked even if it was an official update with bootloader, just thought if I flashed a custom rom with new bootloader it started the Knox warranty void.
Thanks for all your help. I'm gutted now though coz your right Samsung probably update my phone and then I'm b****ed anyway if I root again and custom rom it. Your link doen't take me to a 4.2.2. rom though so I'll keep looking.
Cheers Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Yes I understood that. I'm in the same situation as you as in the way I flash ROMS. I didn't realise that the counter still worked even if it was an official update with bootloader, just thought if I flashed a custom rom with new bootloader it started the Knox warranty void.
Thanks for all your help. I'm gutted now though coz your right Samsung probably update my phone and then I'm b****ed anyway if I root again and custom rom it. Your link doen't take me to a 4.2.2. rom though so I'll keep looking.
Cheers Robbo
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Im sorry about that here you go www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/ and incase your having trouble feel free to ask here and ill answer you whenever i can or you can ask @Joku1981 as well. have a nice day.

Joku1981 said:
1- Ur phone is unbranded? MK9 use android 4.3. I will tell ya the correct firmware for u if u are lil confused
2- If u root it u will void ur warranty. Ur know will be 0x1
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Yes I'm unbranded and on 3 network. Unlocked
Would rather have sammy 4.2.2 to return it on please. Not confused just don't know how to find older version. It just brings up latest.
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Yes I'm unbranded and on 3 network. Unlocked
Would rather have sammy 4.2.2 to return it on please. Not confused just don't know how to find older version. It just brings up latest.
Robbo
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- UK Android 4.3 -> HERE
- UK Android 4.2.2 -> HERE

Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

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Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
Joku1981 said:
- UK Android 4.3 -> HERE
- UK Android 4.2.2 -> HERE
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Robbo106 said:
Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
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You need to flash a pre-rooted rom from djembey thread. Then you can use triangle away to reset the binary .and the flash a stock rom and sent it for repair. Please read the instruction on djembey thread so you wont void ur warranty.
2nd opinion . Flash a stock rom with odin by selecting PDA. And root your phone using saferoot (i dont know about this if it works) install triangle away . Reset binary . Reflash stock again then send.
Sent from Hell ?

Is the pre rooted stock rom so that triangle away will work??? I'm on a pre rooted custom rom but need a samsung kernal for triangle away to work properly. If a flash the stock rom I have on 4.2.2 will that aslo flash stock recovery???
Repulsa said:
You need to flash a pre-rooted rom from djembey thread. Then you can use triangle away to reset the binary .and the flash a stock rom and sent it for repair. Please read the instruction on djembey thread so you wont void ur warranty.
2nd opinion . Flash a stock rom with odin by selecting PDA. And root your phone using saferoot (i dont know about this if it works) install triangle away . Reset binary . Reflash stock again then send.
Sent from Hell ?
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Robbo106 said:
Is the pre rooted stock rom so that triangle away will work??? I'm on a pre rooted custom rom but need a samsung kernal for triangle away to work properly. If a flash the stock rom I have on 4.2.2 will that aslo flash stock recovery???
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Thats correct ,as long its a Stock and rooted then yes you can reset the binary.then flash the stock rom again and you should be fine . incase your phone are still in old bootloader (no knox, never flash 4.3 Samsung rom) then feel free to flash a 4.2.2 Pre-rooted BMGA-odex-FULL from djembey thread ,once your done, Download/Install triangle away and reset the binary, flash a Normal stock rom from samsung, Boot into download mode and you will see it says Official and your good to go Goodluck mate

You've been a great help thanks. Stock recovery is that also flashed when I flash the stock rom last through odin???
So I'm gonna flash a stock rom pre rooted 4.2.2 with CWM then use triangle away then flash stock samsung through odin.
Repulsa said:
Thats correct ,as long its a Stock and rooted then yes you can reset the binary.then flash the stock rom again and you should be fine . incase your phone are still in old bootloader (no knox, never flash 4.3 Samsung rom) then feel free to flash a 4.2.2 Pre-rooted BMGA-odex-FULL from djembey thread ,once your done, Download/Install triangle away and reset the binary, flash a Normal stock rom from samsung, Boot into download mode and you will see it says Official and your good to go Goodluck mate
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