Overheating Solution? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys so basically we everytime I play a game the temperature of the Nexus 4 increases greatly, and we can feel the heat radiating from the back.
So what I do now is place the Nexus 4 in the fridge for about 3/4 minutes and the temperature then reduces from 40°C to around 30°C which is around normal.
I'm not sure if this is good for the phone it self, so I ask your opinion. Please contribute.
Thanks.

TheUnknownCopy said:
...I'm not sure if this is good for the phone it self, so I ask your opinion. Please contribute.
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It likely isn't. I believe it'll cause some condensation, and cause liquid to build-up inside and/or on the device, and liquid isn't too kind to electronics.

40C is nothing lol, my phone gets like that when am on browser, when am on chrome its closer to 50-60C.

you have a quad core phone, itll get hot when you push the cpu(gaming). this is normal. you feel the heat through the back glass because they used glass to help transfer the heat out of the phone faster. one thing you can do that will keep the phone cool is to not use the phone.

Just flash a custom kernel and UV..simple as that!!

You shouldn`t cool your phone in fridge. There is too high humidity
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TheUnknownCopy said:
Hey guys so basically we everytime I play a game the temperature of the Nexus 4 increases greatly, and we can feel the heat radiating from the back.
So what I do now is place the Nexus 4 in the fridge for about 3/4 minutes and the temperature then reduces from 40°C to around 30°C which is around normal.
I'm not sure if this is good for the phone it self, so I ask your opinion. Please contribute.
Thanks.
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OMG! Just throw a bucket of water on it
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TheUnknownCopy said:
Hey guys so basically we everytime I play a game the temperature of the Nexus 4 increases greatly, and we can feel the heat radiating from the back.
So what I do now is place the Nexus 4 in the fridge for about 3/4 minutes and the temperature then reduces from 40°C to around 30°C which is around normal.
I'm not sure if this is good for the phone it self, so I ask your opinion. Please contribute.
Thanks.
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Its expected... 4 cores on all the time.... Its like saying you get hot and sweaty when you exert yourself during a strenuous physical activity.
DO NOT PUT YOUR PHONE IN THE FRIDGE!!!
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Quote: So what I do now is place the Nexus 4 in the fridge for about 3/4 minutes and the temperature then reduces from 40°C to around 30°C which is around normal.
How do they come up with it :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:.
Maybe you better cool your own brain

place the phone on a sheet of metal or glass to conduct the heat, you shouldn't put it in the fridge depending how wet it is inside,

TheUnknownCopy said:
So what I do now is place the Nexus 4 in the fridge for about 3/4 minutes and the temperature then reduces from 40°C to around 30°C which is around normal..
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This came to mind when I read your post.
You know how to break glass right? And you're putting a hot glass front and back phone in the fridge? I wouldn't make a habit of it and expect anything good to result.
My advice, besides finding a different ROM and/or kernel combo that suits your needs better; use a console/desktop for gaming.

Thanks to all those who answered my question. Luckily I only did it once phew!
I had a feeling that there would be something wrong with putting it in the fridge.

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Nexus 4 running hot!

The Nexus 4 I have now is running hot. Just browsing internet for 30 mins and the part next to the lens is burning my hand! Anyone feel uncomfortable using it?
Mine gets warm, but that's pretty much it.
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Its burning your hand , ya that's a issue , mine gets warm just like my Gn and both gs3's warm is normal hot not normal
frypan said:
The Nexus 4 I have now is running hot. Just browsing internet for 30 mins and the part next to the lens is burning my hand! Anyone feel uncomfortable using it?
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When you say burning, do you mean just uncomfortably warm, like a really warm hot pad? Do you mean so warm it will actually give you a burn and blisters?
Mine gets uncomfortably warm at times when the CPU is really chugging, but not hot enough to burn or hurt me.
frypan said:
The Nexus 4 I have now is running hot. Just browsing internet for 30 mins and the part next to the lens is burning my hand! Anyone feel uncomfortable using it?
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Get a free cpu temp checker app, what's it say?
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yes the device gets pretty warm, when the mobile data on. with wifi its oky though
Mine get unusually hot when using the Music app and I use it alot. In anycase I'm exchanging mine.
sherwin892 said:
Mine get unusually hot when using the Music app and I use it alot. In anycase I'm exchanging mine.
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Exchanging it for what ? N4 is always going to run warm .
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Try undervolting
As suggested above, download free market application such as battery monitor widget which will display phone temp.
As warm and hot are very subjective terms....where as Degrees C aren't!
Sywepd form my DsereiS
sherwin892 said:
Mine get unusually hot when using the Music app and I use it alot. In anycase I'm exchanging mine.
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I am exchanging mine as well, not case it gets warm lol. cause it has a hairline cracked close to camera. everything else was fine, even though some buzz clicking noise etc

[Q] Do TPU cases get hot?

Hey guys,
I just received my new black TPU case. It fits next to perfectly and makes my phone feel way more sturdy, so I'm very happy so far . Now I have one question: will TPU cases become hot easily? Of course too much heat will not be good for my phone and when it turns summer here again, I want to know if it might get my phone to become too hot, especially since it's black.
I don't know if it is a stupid question, but then I will know that at least too
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That's a strange question.
It sounds like your trying to say if the tpu case will emit heat on its own. LOL
1. You should not leave your phone out in the sun. That's how it gets hot during the hot summer. (That's why you have pockets.)
2. The environment you're in will affect the temperature of the phone but not too much. For example, a outside temperature of 25 degrees Fahrenheit will decrease the temperature to about maybe about 4-5+ degrees lower. But the phone is still operable.
3. I have been using tpu cases for years and it has never been a problem. I never thought about it either. You bought the case you use it. Otherwise, you can leave it naked and free.
(Please don't leave your phone out in the hot sumer hot.) Keep it in your pocket or backpack with the case on and away from hard objects that can damage the screen.
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scream4cheese said:
That's a strange question.
It sounds like your trying to say if the tpu case will emit heat on its own. LOL
1. You should not leave your phone out in the sun. That's how it gets hot during the hot summer. (That's why you have pockets.)
2. The environment you're in will affect the temperature of the phone but not too much. For example, a outside temperature of 25 degrees Fahrenheit will decrease the temperature to about maybe about 4-5+ degrees lower. But the phone is still operable.
3. I have been using tpu cases for years and it has never been a problem. I never thought about it either. You bought the case you use it. Otherwise, you can leave it naked and free.
(Please don't leave your phone out in the hot sumer hot.) Keep it in your pocket or backpack with the case on and away from hard objects that can damage the screen.
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Thanks for your reaction. I didn't mean that it would emit heat, but more that it would trap it. The thing I was concerned about would in be in summer in my room whilst the phone would be charging. Especially when I'm playing the PS3 there in summer temperature would rise quite a bit and the battery of my old ace went up to 40°C
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Help with overheating/throttling

I just bought the nexus 4 and it was running very smooth on stock. But the battery life was kind of bad and the back got hot very fast. I decided to flash faux kernel. Then i set the governor to intellidemand (like many suggested) and didnt touch anything else. Now the phone lags a bit and it heats just as much as stock. Anything i've missed?
NamNamNom said:
I just bought the nexus 4 and it was running very smooth on stock. But the battery life was kind of bad and the back got hot very fast. I decided to flash faux kernel. Then i set the governor to intellidemand (like many suggested) and didnt touch anything else. Now the phone lags a bit and it heats just as much as stock. Anything i've missed?
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you have a quad core phone with a glass back, itll get hot with use and youll feel the heat escaping through the back glass. this is normal.
simms22 said:
you have a quad core phone with a glass back, itll get hot with use and youll feel the heat escaping through the back glass. this is normal.
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I mean the actuall battery temp when playing games. What settings do you recomend, like what governor etc?
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I mean the actuall battery temp when playing games. What settings do you recomend, like what governor etc?
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your battery will get hot too, when playing games, especially when plugged in. what temp is it reaching? how about cpu temp? hot doesnt say much, hot/cold is relative. give me a temperature. i dont use faux kernel, so i cant help you with it. i use trinity kernel at its default(1026mhz, all 4 cores enabled, ondemand/deadline. again, heat is normal. having a glass back just makes it feel like its too hot. the glass is there to cool off the phone, transfer the heat to the atmosphere. if it was plastic or metal, it wouldnt feel as hot. if your phone gets too hot, itll reach the safety shutdown and shut itself off. before that point, thermal throttle kicks in too cool off your device. all thermal throttle does is reduce your cpu speed.
I wanted to start the topic about over heating.
My N4 is very hot when i use it normaly. I instaled battery info and i have buld infos. Battery temp. Is about 37°c but it feels like 50°c. Its located around the camera.
Is that normal? Does anybody else have that overheating issue?
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krivinash said:
I wanted to start the topic about over heating.
My N4 is very hot when i use it normaly. I instaled battery info and i have buld infos. Battery temp. Is about 37°c but it feels like 50°c. Its located around the camera.
Is that normal? Does anybody else have that overheating issue?
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37C is normal. I've seen my battery go up to 46C before heavy throttling, but generally it sits around 35-42C depending on what it is I do. My thermal throttle starts when battery hits 40C.
krivinash said:
I wanted to start the topic about over heating.
My N4 is very hot when i use it normaly. I instaled battery info and i have buld infos. Battery temp. Is about 37°c but it feels like 50°c. Its located around the camera.
Is that normal? Does anybody else have that overheating issue?
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overheating isnt an issue for the nexus 4. 37C is normal, the average human body temp is 37C. things "feel" hot on the back because the back is glass. its glass so that it can transfer heat out of the phone quicker. its safe for the battery to get near 60C and for the cpu to get to its cpu shutdown temp(95-100C).
I having the same problem playing ingress while plugged in and I notices the back screen protector shield i got on it has made the heat even worst but it protects it from getting scratched up. o well i guess i have to live with it or install custom kernel with uv and uc
Alicklee said:
I having the same problem playing ingress while plugged in and I notices the back screen protector shield i got on it has made the heat even worst but it protects it from getting scratched up. o well i guess i have to live with it or install custom kernel with uv and uc
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while plugged in will get it hotter, plus the back screen protector will prevent heat from escaping..
yeah I know. i just debate if i should take the back protector off i mean i only really worried about the front of the screen. it just took some time to put it on
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while plugged in will get it hotter, plus the back screen protector will prevent heat from escaping..
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yeah I know. i just debate if i should take the back protector off i mean i only really worried about the front of the screen. it just took some time to put it on
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mines naked. the front screen is perfect, but the back glass has micro scratches. im not too worried about the back. the shimmering effect covers the scratches well
Both 37c and 50c are normal. You don't have an overheating problem and neither does anyone else on our forums. We reaaaally need a sticky about this. I'm not trying to be an ass about it, but this has been beaten to death. Just because the phone feels warm doesn't mean it's overheating.
username8611 said:
Both 37c and 50c are normal. You don't have an overheating problem and neither does anyone else on our forums. We reaaaally need a sticky about this
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lol, yea. ive been fighting this fight for a while now, trying to educate and spread the word.

Battery/Phone Getting Very Hot

Hey everyone -
Not sure if you've experienced this but I have the At&t HTC One 32GB model and I noticed that it heats up when watching videos or even downloading something. It gets over 100F as I have a battery monitor which informs me and I feel how uncomfortable it is. anyone else expericing this and maybe we'll need to root and Use Set CPU to add a profile which underclocks the CPU when it goes over 90 or something like that
I could just have a faulty device but i've read a few articles where people mentioned this but it doesn't get much attention -probably because people don't wanna bad mouth the phone so to speak. who knows
Maybe a Kernel and software update will help along with battery drain.
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Hey everyone -
Not sure if you've experienced this but I have the At&t HTC One 32GB model and I noticed that it heats up when watching videos or even downloading something. It gets over 100F as I have a battery monitor which informs me and I feel how uncomfortable it is. anyone else expericing this and maybe we'll need to root and Use Set CPU to add a profile which underclocks the CPU when it goes over 90 or something like that
I could just have a faulty device but i've read a few articles where people mentioned this but it doesn't get much attention -probably because people don't wanna bad mouth the phone so to speak. who knows
Maybe a Kernel and software update will help along with battery drain.
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Your not alone I experience the same thing.
I have the same issue, I just use the phone in the official flip case and that stops it hurting haha
i guess its not common one i got 2 from letstalk 64gb dev and they are great, maybe try to get replacement oh and both were made around 04/15 according to the serail info thread
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i guess its not common one i got 2 from letstalk 64gb dev and they are great, maybe try to get replacement oh and both were made around 04/15 according to the serail info thread
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Yes according to some posts I read the April phone batches fixed the heating issue.
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i guess its not common one i got 2 from letstalk 64gb dev and they are great, maybe try to get replacement oh and both were made around 04/15 according to the serail info thread
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well that's awesome.. hopefully other's who are having the issue can get a fix. not good
The heat is normal, you will find that the SoC can safely go up to 60 degrees Celsius and possibly more. The reason you feel it is due to aluminium being very good at dissipating the heat and as your hands are touching the metal, they conduct that heat
Its really just a case of either getting a case/cover. OR hold the device with two hands with the bottom of your palm (wrist end) pressed into the two sides of the phone (landscape) This way you get minimal heat to your hands and the device can cool itself as more air will get to the back
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The heat is normal, you will find that the SoC can safely go up to 60 degrees Celsius and possibly more. The reason you feel it is due to aluminium being very good at dissipating the heat and as your hands are touching the metal, they conduct that heat
Its really just a case of either getting a case/cover. OR hold the device with two hands with the bottom of your palm (wrist end) pressed into the two sides of the phone (landscape) This way you get minimal heat to your hands and the device can cool itself as more air will get to the back
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sounds great but it even heats up when the case is on it.. all phones heat up but this is pretty hot. i bet if they did that melting butter experiment with this chip, it will melt with absolutely no problem lol. this may sound strange but sometimes when im holding it and its hot, i use my mind and it cools down off and on.. goodness knows i be trynna make that work because i know how everything is really connected but yeah
hope they address this somehow
thank you for your response and others
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sounds great but it even heats up when the case is on it.. all phones heat up but this is pretty hot. i bet if they did that melting butter experiment with this chip, it will melt with absolutely no problem lol. this may sound strange but sometimes when im holding it and its hot, i use my mind and it cools down off and on.. goodness knows i be trynna make that work because i know how everything is really connected but yeah
hope they address this somehow
thank you for your response and others
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Yeah its just due to the metal honestly. In plastic phones the area where the SoC is gets extremely hot and just as unbearable to touch. BUT as this is an aluminium unibody the heat spreads all over. The reason I said to hold the top and bottom of the device where the speakers are is because there is a plastic strip separating the middle piece of metal from the two sides, meaning these sides are cooler to hold.
Yes, mine one can get quite hot especially when I play game. However one the other hand, I find it cooling down extremely fast comparing to my GS3 which does take time to warm up also to go back to comfortable temperature.
Must due to the aluminum back which transfers the heat faster than plastic.
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In my experience, gets One XL got noticeably hotter than the One when performing the same tasks.
Everyones heat tolerance is different. Phone gets WARM when im watching video. Couple minutes later it's not hot. So it's definateky not a issue.
Plastic insulates the heat, aluminum dissipates heat. No brainer here
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expertzero1 said:
Everyones heat tolerance is different. Phone gets WARM when im watching video. Couple minutes later it's not hot. So it's definateky not a issue.
Plastic insulates the heat, aluminum dissipates heat. No brainer here
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How is the heat when using the browser for extended amounts of time?
darkgoon3r96 said:
How is the heat when using the browser for extended amounts of time?
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Im usually on my pc when browsing .
Only times my phone was warm is when im downloading a huge file , music streaming and web surfing at the same time, and YouTube videos. To the point of where omg it's hot af, nope. Havnt had the chance to play games yet, damn them midterms
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Metal conducts the heat but can also conducts the cold.
Let my phone in my cold bedroom during the night and took it in the morning it was like the phone was left outdoor
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yes according to some posts i read the april phone batches fixed the heating issue.
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even the battery charge dont take as long as some people mentioned here
I found mine to get really hot as well, just by surfing on wifi.
I thought it was normal, and still do, but if anyone here has One's that don't get hot at all, please tell, cause then I'm gonna get a bit concerned.
Apoxx said:
I found mine to get really hot as well, just by surfing on wifi.
I thought it was normal, and still do, but if anyone here has One's that don't get hot at all, please tell, cause then I'm gonna get a bit concerned.
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hot as in too hot to touch?
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hot as in too hot to touch?
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Nope, but hot as in making my palms really sweaty after just a few minutes use.
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Nope, but hot as in making my palms really sweaty after just a few minutes use.
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Previous posters hit it right on the head. The aluminium body acts just like a heat sink sucking moving heat from inside out and then your hands act like an insulator keeping the heat there. The OG Droid did the same thing. It's just part of having this design. Keep in mind though it does an excellent job of stopping your phone from hitting critical internal tempetures.

Did anyone notice the ouya gets pretty warm after being on for awhile.

Not anything to worry about but an extra vent wouldn't hurt. Also the heat wave doesn't hurt.
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Look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349899
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All these years and the never learn cooling is the most important thing in technology. I guess ouya better hope it can take the heat or they will have to replace them.
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I completely agree... I've been saying this for years... Lol
Difficult in such a small form factor but I'm more than positive this would have been one of the first issues they ran into.
I'm surprised though, why they used an aluminium heatsink over a small copper one and some decent thermal paste. It looks like a thermal pad...
I also noticed that the fins on the heatsink are thicker in one direction than the other, so the heat is trying to escape from the larger gaps... Which run right to the side of the case and against the NIC. I guess it would have helped rotating it 45 degrees so it escapes out the top and bottom quicker
Maybe its just mine though
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I still have yet to have any heating issues, most of the time it is warm to the touch after an extended use, but nothing to worry about. I won't be modding my first OUYA at all so I'm hoping it stays that way (it's the special edition one), but I plan on buying a second one down the line to mess around with.
Truthfully, my phone gets hotter after a half hour of use than my OUYA does after 4 hours.
Yeah it doesn't get that hot but you think they would put I vent in the top since heat rises. Also a console this small should be cold as ice.
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darchur said:
Yeah it doesn't get that hot but you think they would put I vent in the top since heat rises. Also a console this small should be cold as ice.
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You should have 4 thin vents on on the black plastic lid, just on the edges no?
btw temp is in /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
69° was the highest I could push it, around 55° is normal for me
user822 said:
btw temp is in /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
69° was the highest I could push it, around 55° is normal for me
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That doesn't seem all that high to be honest around normal desktop cpu numbers? Although the high end 70ish could be troublesome with warmer weather that should arrive any day now.
Servaas said:
That doesn't seem all that high to be honest around normal desktop cpu numbers? Although the high end 70ish could be troublesome with warmer weather that should arrive any day now.
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The standard throttling temperature for a Tegra 3, where it starts to underclock, is at 75°C
So there is not too much room left for overclocking!
Soon we will see better printed cases I'm sure.
If someone started that I think it might make bank because lazy people are lazy

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