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Right just a quick question if I root my nexus 7 just to use stick mount and a OTG cable and add removal. Will I still get the OTA updates from the big G.
I'm a compulsive ROM changer and I have never owed a full Nexus device and would just like to keep it pure Nexus so to speak but with Root.
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Yes.
Yes, you'll still get OTA updates, but you'll lose root (I know 'cause my old Galaxy tab lost it when it got ICS), so if you want to keep root, use the Root Keeper app in the Play Store. I thing there are ways or apps that do this too, but I don't know.
You will get them but they wont update your nexus 7 because of a custom recovery
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You will get them but they wont update your nexus 7 because of a custom recovery
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Ahhh that's what I thought
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Ignore last poster.
You can still get your ota if you keep the stock recovery
You can still use a custom recovery for gaining root by doing fastboot boot recovery.img instead of fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Doing it this way will give you a single boot into custom recovery while Leaving the actual recovery on your tab stock
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You will get them but they wont update your nexus 7 because of a custom recovery
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That's not true. You can root and still have stock recovery. In fact you'll have stock recovery unless you flash one manually. edit: or unless your root tool flashes the recovery.
And to the OP, yes, you sure can have root, and still have updates [but apparently not upgrades], I recommend that over unrooted stock, but I would definitely recommend a custom rom like Paranoid Android [CM10 based]. It lets you choose the layout [tablet and phablet] of any app.
Yes, you will keep root if here is an upgrade. You might not keep it going from 4.1 to 4.2 on the OTA because like then other guy said, he lost root after a big update. If you go from 4.1 to 4.1.1 you should be fine.
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Then if this is true, that they will flash why for the past 2 weeks when people have asked the same question has everyone else said the same as i did??
You cant get a straight answer on this site now a days i wish it go back to 5 years ago. It was nice t be on here then
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E_Goldstein said:
Then if this is true, that they will flash why for the past 2 weeks when people have asked the same question has everyone else said the same as i did??
You cant get a straight answer on this site now a days i wish it go back to 5 years ago. It was nice t be on here then
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OK let me give you the full breakdown which should hopefully make things easier to understand for everyone
[RECOVERIES AND OTA UPDATES]
in order to flash a manufacturer OTA update you must have the stock recovery on your devices Recovery Partition
you can still use a custom recovery via fastboot boot recovery.img as this doesnt touch your physical recovery partition
by doing fastboot boot clockworkrecovery.img you can then install your su binaries to get root
[OTA UPDATES AND KEEPING ROOT]
there are 2 different types of OTA updates
Incremental and Full System Updates
[INCREMENTAL UPDATES]
an incremental update will just update files on your system partition, as a stock rom doesnt have SU binaries, a incremental update will never
touch them and thus root will not be affected
[Full System Updates]
a full system update will erase and flash a completely new system partition, as such all data on the system partition is replaced including SU binaries so with this type of update Root will be lost
even after a full system update it is easy enough to just fastboot boot clockworkrecovery.img and reflash the su binaries again afterwards so nothing is ever truly lost
hope this is slightly educational for some of you
Ok every guide I looked at said you can easily flash something to gain root again well in order to flash anything you have to have root so it doesn't make any sense and I didn't see any guides on this or related posts and I'm running 4.2.2
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fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img
boot into recovery
flash the supersu.zip root package.
What is so complicated about that?
you dont need root to flash something, you need an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery.....
i swear the word root has lost all meaning these days. everyone wants it, but it seems so very few actually understand what it is.
Pretty sure you just need to fastboot flash a custom recovery, then you can flash the superuser binaries by chainsdd (Google the package), then install superuser or superSU from the market.
Not familiar with nexus 7, but this is how I rooted a galaxy nexus. There should be a sticky in your device specific forum with links to the process and files.
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I went to fastboot but when I go into recovery I get an error
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Class_of_punk26 said:
I went to fastboot but when I go into recovery I get an error
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An error?
if you want help, provide info
I'm in the car ATM but when I turn my device off and I go into boot loader I push either up or down like 2 times it shows recovery mode I click it and it shows a android guy with a red thing in the center of him
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Class_of_punk26 said:
I'm in the car ATM but when I turn my device off and I go into boot loader I push either up or down like 2 times it shows recovery mode I click it and it shows a android guy with a red thing in the center of him
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thats stock recovery.....did you ever FLASH a custom recovery, like all the guides tell you to?
I tried downloading clockworkmod recovery from ROM manager but the download failed so I downloaded recovery manager from the play store and downloaded a recovery using the app it said the recovery installed
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Class_of_punk26 said:
I tried downloading clockworkmod recovery from ROM manager but the download failed so I downloaded recovery manager from the play store and downloaded a recovery using the app it said the recovery installed
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Dude,
As the guides tell you, and I lined out above, you need to FASTBOOT FLASH RECOVERY
unless you are already rooted, then downloading ROM Manager or 'recovery manager' from the app store doesnt do any good....
you need a computer to do this in fastboot mode.
Damn I was hoping I could avoid using my friends very slow comp lol
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I'm in the similar situation - I upgraded rooted 4.2.1 via modified OTA (original OTA was failing because of one apk) and now I have 4.2.2, but even though I had SuperSU which was ticked to "survival mode" (should keep the root), it apparently didn't. I don't have TWRP anymore, when I press power+vol dn I get the standard "start" screen (original recovery). Also, when I turn N7 on, it is displaying keychain that is OPEN, that means my bootloader is unlocked?
So my question(s)... my bootloader is probably unlocked? If I do the steps:
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img
boot into recovery
flash the supersu.zip root package
will I loose all data/apps? I ask because when I first rooted with toolkit, I lost all apps/data.
Also, where to find supersu.zip ? That is different to the installed SuperSU.apk, right?
Damn I can't make ADB work... I tried 2 computers.... Damn google for making this so [email protected]#[email protected]$ .... Constant problems, nothing else. Any clues? I ofcourse, tried kill-server and start-server, no matter what my device is showing offline....
Just checked with my phone (SGNII) and it is working just fine... no clue why Nexus is showing as offline..
Hey everyone.
I want to root 4.3 but I dont want to install CWM or TWR or another custom recovery. I want to keep stock recovery so I can directly update from Google when 4.4 is released.
Is there any way I can root without having a custom recovery?
Thanks for the help.
Sensamic said:
Hey everyone.
I want to root 4.3 but I dont want to install CWM or TWR or another custom recovery. I want to keep stock recovery so I can directly update from Google when 4.4 is released.
Is there any way I can root without having a custom recovery?
Thanks for the help.
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Yes, you can root without flashing a custom recovery. The first step is to obtain root access. The next step of installing a custom recovery (i.e. CWM or TWRP) is to flash ROMs and Kernels. You can just stop at ROOT.
FYI - There are stock and very close to stock ROMs available. Once Android 4.4 is released by Goggle, it does not take long (1-2 days) before people have the 4.4 available for flashing especially for the stock or close to stock ROMs. The more customized ROMs may take a little longer to have Android 4.4 ported into their ROMs.
Sensamic said:
Hey everyone.
I want to root 4.3 but I dont want to install CWM or TWR or another custom recovery. I want to keep stock recovery so I can directly update from Google when 4.4 is released.
Is there any way I can root without having a custom recovery?
Thanks for the help.
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Fastboot boot recovery recovery.img and then flash the latest supersu.
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mrgnex said:
Fastboot boot recovery recovery.img and then flash the latest supersu.
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You can also try Wugfresh's Nexus Toolkit http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/, which I have used and it works well, or the Nexus 10 Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001868
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Fastboot boot recovery recovery.img and then flash the latest supersu.
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Can you elaborate please?
I installed 4.3 trough fastboot but I dont get how to install supersu from there.
Thanks.
Sensamic said:
Can you elaborate please?
I installed 4.3 trough fastboot but I dont get how to install supersu from there.
Thanks.
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The command posted "fastboot boot boot.img" would boot your device once into a custom recovery without actually installing the recovery. From there, you can use the one-time booted recovery to install a root zip.
Yes.
I'm unlocked and rooted on the latest 4.3. N10 is so fast I don't feel the need for a custom rom at this present time.
N-Cry tool kit was the easiest I tried.
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Sensamic said:
Can you elaborate please?
I installed 4.3 trough fastboot but I dont get how to install supersu from there.
Thanks.
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First you need to download the latest supersu. Then you need to download a custom recovery from here: http://download2.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.5-manta.img
Place it on your C: drive.
Then go to fastboot and type:
Fastboot boot recovery C:/recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.5-manta.img
Then select recovery with the volume buttons and press the power button.
In recovery flash the latest supersu you downloaded.
! Wipe cache and dalvik cache !
Reboot.
You're now rooted and still have the stock recovery.
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mrgnex said:
First you need to download the latest supersu. Then you need to download a custom recovery from here: http://download2.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.5-manta.img
Place it on your C: drive.
Then go to fastboot and type:
Fastboot boot recovery C:/recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.5-manta.img
Then select recovery with the volume buttons and press the power button.
In recovery flash the latest supersu you downloaded.
! Wipe cache and dalvik cache !
Reboot.
You're now rooted and still have the stock recovery.
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Thanks a lot!
One last doubt. When you say place the recovery img in C: you mean on my PC or on the Nexus 10?
Thanks again.
EDIT: I tried following your instructions but didnt manage to boot into the custom recovery. Maybe Im missing some step in cmd.
Sensamic said:
Thanks a lot!
One last doubt. When you say place the recovery img in C: you mean on my PC or on the Nexus 10?
Thanks again.
EDIT: I tried following your instructions but didnt manage to boot into the custom recovery. Maybe Im missing some step in cmd.
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Open your cmd, copy the recovery to your fastboot folder then cd to it. After that type:
Code:
fastboot boot recovery name here).img
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XxLordxX said:
Open your cmd, copy the recovery to your fastboot folder then cd to it. After that type:
Code:
fastboot boot recovery name here).img
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Doesn't that require you to unlock your bootloader first? (and therefore wipe everything from the N10)
I originally rooted my N10 (running 4.2.2) using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003938 without unlocking the bootloader first...
No idea if it works on 4.3 or not, though...
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Doesn't that require you to unlock your bootloader first? (and therefore wipe everything from the N10)
I originally rooted my N10 (running 4.2.2) using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003938 without unlocking the bootloader first...
No idea if it works on 4.3 or not, though...
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I'm not sure if it requires unlocked BL. You can try, if it doesn't work, then you shall backup and unlock. But I believe it will work .
XxLordxX said:
I'm not sure if it requires unlocked BL. You can try, if it doesn't work, then you shall backup and unlock. But I believe it will work .
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Will any of these methods work for the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 4, or are there any other ways? I want to gain root and upgrade when updates come out as well, but we have no custom recovery yet for the Tab 4. I wonder if I could fast boot with the custom recovery for Tab 3 if it will work?
vince.lupe said:
Will any of these methods work for the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 4, or are there any other ways? I want to gain root and upgrade when updates come out as well, but we have no custom recovery yet for the Tab 4. I wonder if I could fast boot with the custom recovery for Tab 3 if it will work?
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There is an app called towel root, basically what it does is temp root your phone. It doesnt work on android L, but it works on kitkat and below...
https://towelroot.com
BOOTLOADER unlock
To issue this command I have to unlock the BOOTLOADER right...or I can issue the command without unlocking it..just from fastboot menu
SathishKies said:
To issue this command I have to unlock the BOOTLOADER right...or I can issue the command without unlocking it..just from fastboot menu
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To run
Code:
fastboot boot boot.img
Yes, your bootloader needs to be unlocked.
Thanq for the help...& does this work on any device we'll I have a MTK device Spice Android One
SathishKies said:
Thanq for the help...& does this work on any device we'll I have a MTK device Spice Android One
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Not sure, this is the N10 forums.
mrgnex said:
Fastboot boot recovery recovery.img and then flash the latest supersu.
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Thank you so much !!!
I could'nt flash recovery on my Moto G4 so I booted like you said and I installed SuperSU !
Now I'm rooted, perfect thanks
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How can i install twrp in my micromax canvas evok. In the official twrp site my mobile is not in the list. So what can i do? Please tell me.
Hi,
My Nexus 7 3G 2012 was rooted, stock rom 4.3 but I've deleted some APK in the system partition. Now my Nexus 7 received an OTA update for the KitKat. What is the quickest way to safely update to the 4.4 while maintain all of the installed apps and userdata?
Thanks
1. Download the official KitKat image files from Google
2. Extract system.ing and boot.img from it
3. boot into bootloader
4. fastboot flash system system.img
5. fastboot flash boot boot.img
6. reboot your system
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AndDiSa said:
1. Download the official KitKat image files from Google
2. Extract system.ing and boot.img from it
3. boot into bootloader
4. fastboot flash system system.img
5. fastboot flash boot boot.img
6. reboot your system
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Tks for your reply.
So all data and installed apps will be inact?
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Yes, I am doing it always in that way, because I have a rooted system and normally there are often problems with applying the OTA. Flashing boot and system will keep your data and apps which are located on the data partition. If you want to be really sure to have a clean system, I would also flash a custom recovery, boot directly into recovery and wipe dalvik-cache, but this is not really needed.
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This is interesting and really new to me.
Could you please precise, which tools you use? A little how-to would be very helpfull to get along with the bunch of possibilities coming with TWRP and/or wugfresh´s toolkit.
I am using no tools / toolkits as I want to have full control on the flashing process. Probably you might want to have a look at my blog. Here I described the update process already some time ago (not to go to 4.4, but the steps and the mechanism are the same).
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Ok tks for your response.
However my friend confirmed that he updated successfully to 4.4 via OTA while rooted.
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I have used this method every update. Only takes about 5 minutes.
It amazes me all the convoluted methods and bricked devices that you see, when if people would do a little research and had a little understanding of what they are doing it would save them a lot of grief.
All I can say is thanks to the person who wrote this simple how-to.
Now I will get off my soap box.
Hi folks!
Where find I one SuperSU.zip file to root my device through ADB SIDELOAD (stock recovery)?
My device:
- Boot loader LOCKED;
- UNroot;
- 4.4.3 stock.
I don't wanna install a custom recovery neither unlock the boot loader.
Is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
bobgeneric said:
Hi folks!
Where find I one SuperSU.zip file to root my device through ADB SIDELOAD (stock recovery)?
My device:
- Boot loader LOCKED;
- UNroot;
- 4.4.3 stock.
I don't wanna install a custom recovery neither unlock the boot loader.
Is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
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To flash the super su zip you need a custom recovery, for that you need to unlock the bootloader. You can find it by Google "supersu zip file xda"
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jd1639 said:
To flash the super su zip you need a custom recovery, for that you need to unlock the bootloader. You can find it by Google "supersu zip file xda"
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With the boot loader unlocked, will I update via OTA?
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With the boot loader unlocked, will I update via OTA?
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Yes, you'll still get the ota. But, unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device
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Yes, you'll still get the ota. But, unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device
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Ow!! thanks.... better make a backup...
Can I re-lock and remove the custom Recovery after root?
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Ow!! thanks.... better make a backup...
Can I re-lock and remove the custom Recovery after root?
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You can just boot into the custom recovery
fastboot boot recovery.img. You'll just boot into and not install it. Once you boot into it flash supersu. You're retain the stock recovery. You can then re-lock the bootloader if you want.
Oh, as an fyi, when you take an ota you do lose root so you may want to consider leaving the bootloader unlocked so you don't have to wipe your device again after the ota if you want to root it again
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You can just boot into the custom recovery
fastboot boot recovery.img. You'll just boot into and not install it. Once you boot into it flash supersu. You're retain the stock recovery. You can then re-lock the bootloader if you want.
Oh, as an fyi, when you take an ota you do lose root so you may want to consider leaving the bootloader unlocked so you don't have to wipe your device again after the ota if you want to root it again
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Hey jed1639,
Is it possible to adb sideload the superSu.zip file on a galaxy S6 with Android 6.0 beta and encrypted mememory on it? Because, if I try to install the .zip file via the given Custom Recovery (PhilZ touch recovery) then I get the following error:
E: Can't mount /sdcard
This frustrates me. Could you help me?
Edit: Fixed! It works