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Will I have OTA updates with Clockwork mod?

Sorry if this is redundant, but I tried to find an answer searching. apologies in advance if this is a repeat question.
I've rooted and run custom roms on other android devices in the past, but these were devices that never received OTA updates from the carrier/manufacturers. With that said, I have one single question. If I root my nexus 4 and run clockwork mod recovery, will I still receive OTA updates? I don't want to run a custom rom at this time, but I wouldn't mind doing so in the future. I also want the ability to run titanium backup and adjust the color profile of my screen. Part of the appeal of the nexus 4 is receiving updates directly from google and I would like to keep this feature. Any insight would be appreciated.
I run a mac, so I was planning on running this instruction set as there isn't a toolkit for macs (at least that I know of).
http://www.androidrootz.com/2012/11/how-to-root-nexus-4-on-mac.html

You will receive the update but it will fail at installation because of the custom recovery. You can however, flash the .zip file through recovery to successfully update.

If I simply root my device (keep the bootloader locked and do not install clockwork mod), will I receive OTA updates? I'm a big fan of getting OTA'. I believe I only need root access to run titanium mod and screen calibration tools.

You need to unlock your bootloader to fastboot boot a custom recovery to flash the SU binaries.
If you unlock your bootloader and just boot the custom recovery (not flash it) to gain root, you will get the OTA. It will only install successfully if you keep it stock and don't change the kernel, system UI, or anything else.

I decided to throw caution to the wind. I'm going all in and running clockwork mod and so forth. Very simple to complete. I don't know why I why I was so concerned about the OTA updates.

misfits9095 said:
I decided to throw caution to the wind. I'm going all in and running clockwork mod and so forth. Very simple to complete. I don't know why I why I was so concerned about the OTA updates.
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yah cause at the end of the day... the ota update will be on this site the day of or the day after google releases it. like it was said above, just download and flash it.

El Daddy said:
You will receive the update but it will fail at installation because of the custom recovery. You can however, flash the .zip file through recovery to successfully update.
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If it's anything like the Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus this isn't true. On those device it will reboot to the recovery and fail initially but it gives you the option to start the installation. Once you do that it installs successfully and then CWMR asks if you want to keep root, then asks if you want to restore permanent recovery.

itznfb said:
If it's anything like the Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus this isn't true. On those device it will reboot to the recovery and fail initially but it gives you the option to start the installation. Once you do that it installs successfully and then CWMR asks if you want to keep root, then asks if you want to restore permanent recovery.
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This must be a new feature of CWR. It wasn't like that in the past.
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El Daddy said:
This must be a new feature of CWR. It wasn't like that in the past.
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It could be new. I haven't owned Nexus devices for a long period of time. Running v6+ on all of them.

Edit: I didn't see you were talking about clockwork mod recovery here! Sorry for not reading!
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Will i get OTA after rooting

I just want to root my N4 and flash stock ROM...i want to root because many gr8 apps requires root permission and i could do a little tempering to my N4
My main query is will i get OTA updates (i am not asking about a .zip file flashed for OTA)

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Yes.
Download supersu binaries and put on internal storage
unlock - fastboot oem unlock
Download and boot a custom recovery - fastboot boot recovery.img
Flash the supersu binaries and reboot
Note unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data.
By using fastboot boot recovery.img you will leave the stock recovery on your phone so it will not interfere with any ota updates
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scream4cheese said:
As long as you're on stock recovery.
Next time search the forum for the answer.
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You can have a custom recovery and still install the ota update
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[Q] Rooted Nexus 4 Can Get Android 4.3 Updates ?

Hi There,
I have rooted my Nexus 4 Few Days ago and Still I didn't got my Android 4.3 Update. I want to know after rooting is my device getting automatically update or do I need to install it manually after downloading image from Google ?
Thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378413
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konfidential said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378413
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I know I can install it manually. I need to know whether I will get Automatic Push Up Update or Not

You're rooted... So no
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konfidential said:
You're rooted... So no
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Thanks Buddy.So after I Installed Image from Google Developers is it unroot again ?

Yes.. You'll lose root
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konfidential said:
You're rooted... So no
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Actually, if your device is rooted but still running stock, you can still receive OTA updates.
AnjulaMalshan said:
Thanks Buddy.So after I Installed Image from Google Developers is it unroot again ?
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Yes, you'll need to re-root your device.
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Hi,
My Nexus 4 is rooted running stock, but with the faux kernel. Will I still get 4.3 pushed to my phone?
Either way once I install 4.3, will I have to unlock the bootloader again in order to root the phone?
Thanks, I'm new to all this business

Theonew said:
Actually, if your device is rooted but still running stock, you can still receive OTA updates.
Yes, you'll need to re-root your device.
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I received update notification, my Nexus 4 is rooted and running stock. So if I update would I lose root? and when I root again would I lose my data unless I backup and restore it later?
Thank you.

kannaiah said:
I received update notification, my Nexus 4 is rooted and running stock. So if I update would I lose root? and when I root again would I lose my data unless I backup and restore it later?
Thank you.
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You will lose root. once you re-root it you will not lose any data. just to be safe create a backup before upgrading to 4.3

I received my Nexus 4 on March 2 2013.
It was running Jelly Bean 4.2 out of the box but, soon after I connected to my wifi, the phone automatically downloaded 4.2.2 and was ready to install. I upgraded to 4.2.2 without making any modifications or added any apps to the phone.
I then rooted my phone using Nexus Root Toolkit v1.6.3 by Wug. It used SuperSU and BusyBox Free, and installed the TWRP custom recovery.
A week later I installed the faux123 kernel. I have not installed any custom ROM at all.
On July 31 2013 I noticed the 4.3 update had been automatically downloaded and ready to install (there was a persistent notification in the status bar as well as a "Restart & Install" message in About phone -> System updates).
Just now (yes I know it has been a week but I had been rather busy so I did my backups in parts) I tried to install the 4.3 update. After the restart I was dumped into TWRP's recovery screen. Not knowing what to do I chose Reboot -> System. The phone started up as normal, but once the boot has completed, I found that I am still on 4.2.2, still rooted, and still running the faux123 kernel. But now - even after reboots and rechecks - About phone -> System updates tells me that "Your system is up to date"!?!?
STRANGE...

xdakewie said:
I received my Nexus 4 on March 2 2013.
It was running Jelly Bean 4.2 out of the box but, soon after I connected to my wifi, the phone automatically downloaded 4.2.2 and was ready to install. I upgraded to 4.2.2 without making any modifications or added any apps to the phone.
I then rooted my phone using Nexus Root Toolkit v1.6.3 by Wug. It used SuperSU and BusyBox Free, and installed the TWRP custom recovery.
A week later I installed the faux123 kernel. I have not installed any custom ROM at all.
On July 31 2013 I noticed the 4.3 update had been automatically downloaded and ready to install (there was a persistent notification in the status bar as well as a "Restart & Install" message in About phone -> System updates).
Just now (yes I know it has been a week but I had been rather busy so I did my backups in parts) I tried to install the 4.3 update. After the restart I was dumped into TWRP's recovery screen. Not knowing what to do I chose Reboot -> System. The phone started up as normal, but once the boot has completed, I found that I am still on 4.2.2, still rooted, and still running the faux123 kernel. But now - even after reboots and rechecks - About phone -> System updates tells me that "Your system is up to date"!?!?
STRANGE...
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I also get the same thing. I rooted my official jellybean 4.2.2 to with nexus 4 tool kit. I have teamwin recovery mode . I get on my phn there is an update 4.3 when i press restart and install its restarting to teamwin recovery mode and nothings updated when i boot back to system still get 4.2.2 ver. How do I update the official firmware?

crashzonecz said:
I also get the same thing. I rooted my official jellybean 4.2.2 to with nexus 4 tool kit. I have teamwin recovery mode . I get on my phn there is an update 4.3 when i press restart and install its restarting to teamwin recovery mode and nothings updated when i boot back to system still get 4.2.2 ver. How do I update the official firmware?
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hi there!
after 3-4 days of telling me my "system is up to date", i got another auto-download and prompt to update yesterday. this time i tried to look for the downloaded update file on my emulated SD card when in TWRP but i couldn't find it; so i chose Restart->System like i did before and again (naturally) nothing was updated (and thank goodness at least nothing broke as far as i could see).
from what i've read i believe we will all get such OTA update notices. however, to successfully update using the downloaded file, we would need our phones to be in stock condition (no root, no custom ROM or kernel, etc.). now this 4.3 update as compared to 4.2.2 isn't all that appealing to me, so i think i will wait for a few months to see there are no bugs before attempting to update again.
if you would like to update now, i suggest you read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390127 in which a member advised on using TWRP to handle the updating and not having to re-root your phone after that. hope it helps, and good luck to you!

just do it manually! It's soo simple..
follow these great instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
Look out with flashing userdata userdata.img, dependent on the instructions you choose you have to remove/skip this one because it will erase all your data!
If you want root, install the latest SuperSU 1.5 after you're done.
I also would make a nandroid (full backup) with CWM/TWRP before you start.. if something goes wrong you can always revert all steps.

[Q] Problem with OTA 4.3

Hey guys, got a problem here.
My nexus 4 is rooted running team win recovery. running 4.2.2
just got the notification about OTA update 4.3, really excited about it and clicked install.
phone rebooted, went to teamwin, and it looked to me trying to flash something. left it there and suddenly when back to the team win recovery home page. clicked reboot to system and don't know why i'm still in 4.2.2. checked for updates but says system is up to date.
can anyone help me with the solution?
thanks a lot

You need the stock recovery, as said in a thousand other threads. If u want 4.3 flash the system image and re-root
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EddyOS said:
You need the stock recovery, as said in a thousand other threads. If u want 4.3 flash the system image and re-root
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Or he could just get any 4.3 ROM and flash it through TWRP.
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Aaaaand i am still waiting for my update :/
My two friends with Samsung GNex got the Update, but ME with the Latest Nexus 4 still using 4.2.2 and on stock how beautiful the feeling is haha

Thibaultvw said:
Or he could just get any 4.3 ROM and flash it through TWRP.
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Or CWM

If you want it that bad. Just download the factory image from Google devs and flash it.
Then you also have stock ROM running.
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EddyOS said:
Or CWM
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He uses TWRP.
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Is there any way to revert back to stock recovery in order to get the update?
Further more, is there an option to do so without re-flashing stock all together?

wizardwiz said:
Is there any way to revert back to stock recovery in order to get the update?
Further more, is there an option to do so without re-flashing stock all together?
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You can extract the stock recovery from the factory image and flash through fastboot.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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You can get the stock 4.2.2 recovery from the 4.2.2 factory image. I did have it but as I only keep the current factory image I only have the 4.3 recovery to hand

EddyOS said:
You can get the stock 4.2.2 recovery from the 4.2.2 factory image. I did have it but as I only keep the current factory image I only have the 4.3 recovery to hand
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OK, did some further investigations and here are my findings
1. If you have it, you can use Wugfresh's toolkit (V1.6.4 for now) and it has a utility that can simply restore stock recovery and if you want it, stock kernel as well.
2. The Toolkit will download all necessary files and prompted you before each step.
3. It will revert back permissions for the stock recovery as well
I'll give it a try later on at home.
Thanks guys
Ziv

I am a bit confused. According to the “Nexus OTA Help-Desk” thread, the way to do this is as follows:
Scenario #2
You are stock, with root. Custom Recovery without any modifications or deletions.
Continue to Section B
Section B: Flashing in a custom recovery
1) Download the OTA.zip and copy to your phone.
2) Boot into recovery
3) Flash the OTA
4) Flash Su.zip: (SU is being updated often so check Chainfire's G+ for the latest) https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts
NOTE: Root on 4.3 is not stable. Your mileage may vary.
5) Reboot
So, what is different about using this method to install the OTA and just running the OTA from the notification, and is this the incorrect method?
Is returning to the stock recovery the preferred and more or less foolproof method?

I'm not sure why there's people saying otherwise, but from my experience you don't need stock recovery to take on an OTA...
I've updated my N7 several times now from when I first bought it to 4.3 currently, all the time with a custom recovery. Unless you've changed some other files which causes an error during the OTA update, I don't believe there is a need to re-flash stock recovery at all.

@mlj11, lots of people have the OTA failing on them, even if they are on rooted factory image 4.2.2.
Why the OTA fails on rooted 4.2.2 is still unclear.
My N4 with rooted factory image 4.2.2 also updated like it should without error.
Maybe the unlocked bootloader is the issue letting the 4.3 OTA fail.
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@DecypherT
I'm not saying that rooted users will have no problems updating. My post was in response to people on this thread saying that a custom recovery will stop the OTA. This is false.
It can't be the unlocked bootloader (and it has never been) causing the problem otherwise you or I wouldn't have been able to take the OTA, for example. More likely it's something else.
If any of a user's system files have been altered, there's a good chance the OTA will fail. In the past that happened to me because the Stickmount app changed one of the system files. Once I replaced it though, I could update without any problems.

Ok, good points you're proving here.
Still, it looks like the (OTA) android 4.3 is very unstable.
I'm on rooted 4.3 and experience no big bugs or flaws though.
I do see a very large decrease of battery life when using the phone (screen on) and a big increase when in deep sleep. When the phone is off I almost use no battery.
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So how does OTA work?

As a long time Android power user, I rooted my Nexus as soon as I got the phone. However, I completely forgot about the best thing Nexus devices have to offer, OTA updates.
I completely ditched OTA before since I was on custom ROMs most of the time on other devices.
So here are the questions.
1) How will modifying the system partition affect OTAs? Will they still show up and I won't be able to install them?
2) How can I get OTA back and working? Does a simple "fastboot flash system/boot system.img/boot.img" with the stock system and boot partition fix the issue? If not, what do I do? And will it involve data wiping?
3) If I don't do those, I can still do a manual update for the system partition using fastboot, correct?
Note: I rooted the device using the Nexus Toolkit method over at the dev sub.
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341464 said:
As a long time Android power user, I rooted my Nexus as soon as I got the phone. However, I completely forgot about the best thing Nexus devices have to offer, OTA updates.
I completely ditched OTA before since I was on custom ROMs most of the time on other devices.
So here are the questions.
1) How will modifying the system partition affect OTAs? Will they still show up and I won't be able to install them?
2) How can I get OTA back and working? Does a simple "fastboot flash system/boot system.img/boot.img" with the stock system and boot partition fix the issue? If not, what do I do? And will it involve data wiping?
3) If I don't do those, I can still do a manual update for the system partition using fastboot, correct?
Note: I rooted the device using the Nexus Toolkit method over at the dev sub.
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1. They'll still show up, but any attempt to install them will fail.
2. See my guide.
3. Yes.

Heisenberg said:
1. They'll still show up, but any attempt to install them will fail.
2. See my guide.
3. Yes.
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So wait, what's the status now on the latest SuperSU package? I've heard that its system-less installation now?
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341464 said:
So wait, what's the status now on the latest SuperSU package? I've heard that its system-less installation now?
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There are two versions, the traditional version, and the systemless version.

Heisenberg said:
There are two versions, the traditional version, and the systemless version.
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Speaking of OTA and systemless. I have opted for the systemless root method. If I want to install an OTA, all I have to do is flash the stock boot image, install update, then re root correct? Assuming there are no changes to system?
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