Has anyone else seen this? I was consistently getting 6900 or so on my N7100 compared to the AT&T at around 5900 with Quadrant Standard. Are they under clocking to compensate for the LTE chip? I am going to send back the AT&T version unless there is an easy fix. Thanks. I'd prefer the faster speed and the FM radio.
Well ive notice like antutu im guessing its comparing from international version?? Cuz I can never get my ram and cpu higher than what it should be stock and im overclocked and gpu overclocked I get way over 2d and 3d but that's about it
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Yeah, when I ran Cyanogenmod for a few days I noticed that the benchmark was way worse than stock. I usually see the opposite.
This is the best ive got it avg about 18729 or so but I just can't c how the ram and cpu is better ive tried about everything unless they put the stock to high idk ill take that score any day but ive seen ppl saying they avg 19500 and I find that hard to believe
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This is the best ive got it avg about 18729 or so but I just can't c how the ram and cpu is better ive tried about everything unless they put the stock to high idk ill take that score any day but ive seen ppl saying they avg 19500 and I find that hard to believe
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I just ran AnTuTu on my international and got a 17712... So that's pretty conflicting between the Quadrant. Which version would you keep if you had both units in front of you and no LTE in your area?
Im happy with my at&t version im soon getting LTE where I live so that helps but id like to beable to flash some roms that the n7100 has I know there's ways to but im to lazy to try it but the whole reason I didn't get the n7100 was the cost honestly
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Seriously, don't get too obsessed with benchmarks. If you're happy with the device that's all what matters. Benchmarks are decent to get a fair idea about the specs etc, but real life performance is far more important. What's the point of 30K benchmark if you're fine at even 14 or 15K? Just the numbers, is it?
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Yesterday I installed nenamark on my nexus one and ran my first benchmark, and I swear I got 30.1 fps. I specifically noted that it was spot on with movie frame rates.
Every subsequent test I've run I only get around 16fps. Perhaps 30 is way too high for the nexus one's hardware. But did I just imagine my original score or did I actually get that high? What's the highest score we've seen on the nexus one?
Why not just open it again and on the main screen it says what the highest recorded score it...
That'll tell you what your best score it. Also i maxed out on 16.2FPS :-/
Yeah my best run says 17 so I guess I imagined it. But I could have sworn I saw it. Oh well...
It was allllll just a dream ;p
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42.8 fps nenamark
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Couldn't using one of these newer kernels with updated GPU drivers be helping?
I got 17.5 fps. Not bad for a year old 1 GHz superphone
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I just got a 22f p s yesterday if you believe it. Same exact kernel and all and it shows up in my high score at least.
My one is 22.3fps, without any tweaks, cleans e.t.c
Miui + wildmonks kernel.
16.4 on the N1 (CM 6.1.1), 36.5 on the galaxy tab
Edit: Remembered I'd underclocked my CPU, ramped it up to 1113Mhz and got 22.9fps. (Which I can't duplicate, can only hit 22.3fps now)
Tell you what, 22 isn't too bad considering this hardware.
My question is how does windows phone 7 devices, that all use the same CPU combo as the nexus one, get silky smooth scrolling thru the entire OS, including very large web pages etc. Do they just use that much better drivers? It definitely shows its possible and the potential.
Anyone know why my galaxy s only gets about 13 in linpack?
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Beacuse Linpack tests a specific workload, which it doesn't seem the SGS gets a high score for. However, did you purchase an SGS to "solve a dense N by N system of linear equations Ax = b"?(1) If so, yes, you probably want a faster phone. If not, Linpack doesn't prove that your average applications run slower then the nexus, only for the workloads tested.
Forget about benchmarks, they are only useful for basic testing...
Doesn't the Nexus S run on the exact same processor? I'm seeing scores of 30+ with that.
Thats basically my main confusion.
And yes, I do need to calculate a dense N by N system of linear equations Ax = b... for me to poop on! (If you aren't American you probably wont get that.. no offense intended.)
oh please! tell me that this thread is only a joke!
it's something ridiculous to ask this after month that SGS is out!
linpack is optimized for qualcomm processors!
anyway the NEXUS S give the same results of the sgs.
Look the video on 2:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5xB8hsLnY
if you look the results on Linpack site ( http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/linpack-by-device/ ) give attention to the notes: all the results for NEXUS S are not from nexus s devices!
Thanks. I just saw some ruduculous results and thought some thing was terribly wrong with my phone / rom / kernel combo. Much thanks.
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it only tests 1 part of your processor that is slower then qualcomm's counterpart
No matter how i try i usually get 12k on AnTuTu
my highest was 14k
Im lower than HoX and in the chart Nexus 4 shows 18k...
Anyone knows why mine is that much lower?
Is this a defect or what?
Some guy says ignore it benchmarks mean nothing but its not like im just a little bit lower...
It is 4-6k difference :S
Isn't that strange considering other people with the same device score 18k?
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No matter how i try i usually get 12k on AnTuTu
my highest was 14k
Im lower than HoX and in the chart Nexus 4 shows 18k...
Anyone knows why mine is that much lower?
Is this a defect or what?
Some guy says ignore it benchmarks mean nothing but its not like im just a little bit lower...
It is 4-6k difference :S
Isn't that strange considering other people with the same device score 18k?
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Is your phone laging, running slower other then the benchmarks? Also we need more info like what kernel/rom are you running.
What ROM/kernel are you running, what temperature was your phone at? Is there any apps running in background?
If a freshly installed stock ROM, with only AnTuTu installed, and you score 30% less than other Nexus 4 in benchmarking, then yes, there is a reason to worry about
Edit: for the record, I tried AnTuTu when I just got my N4, and always scored lower than their reference N4.
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I tried on these setups:
Stock with stock kernel
Stock with faux kernel
AOKP with included kernel
i just tried again with a fresh install of stock and scored 14,5k
well its still 3,5k difference what can I do about that any idea?
edit: basically what im worried about is that the only scores i see around my score are people with severely underclocked devices (600 MHz, 700 MHz)
seems like im the only one :S
Benchmarks mean nothing. Don't bother looking at them.
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if they dont mean anything then why do they exist?
I'm not worried about scoring low, I'm worried about scoring considerably lower than the exact same device.
There must somehow be a reason for it I guess?
Meh nvm I'm just sad that mine is possibly the weakest Nexus 4 on the planet get only 18 fps in that lighning 3d test with the 2 characters fighting...
e: please close this thread it was a stupid question to ask I guess I'm sorry
OP:
I am sorry to hear your frustration. Did you check your CPU binning yet? I can't recall how my phone perform on the AnTuTu test, but maybe you can try to measure fps when you play *actual* game?
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Even Chainfire makes benchmark app. I would love to see how you tell Chainfire that his app means nothing. That would make a really interesting conversation with lots of good stuffs to learn
From my point of view, benchmark does not tell real world performance, however it is a wildly used, totally valid tool to compare *hardware* performance. After all, benchmarking (or hardware profilling, to be precise) is what separate a 1.2GHz CPU from a 1.5GHz CPU of identical architecture, isn't it? I'll take the 1.5GHz one even if it means nothing from your point of view
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I always get around mid to high 17k, sometimes 18... bone stock... Your situation is interesting to say the least...
I see the note II with 24k despite the fact it has quad A9s... This is why you should ignore the benchmarks.
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Sounds like you may be thermal throttling. As a test, out your phone in a zip lock bag in the freezer for 10 minutes and then repeat the benchmark.
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Sounds like you may be thermal throttling. As a test, out your phone in a zip lock bag in the freezer for 10 minutes and then repeat the benchmark.
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wow i knew of thermal throttling but didn't think it kicks in in only 1 benchmark!
yes thats it! i tried the benchmark while putting the phone on a very cool surface (glass desk)
and it scored 17k the 1k difference left is redundant i think^^
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OP:
I am sorry to hear your frustration. Did you check your CPU binning yet? I can't recall how my phone perform on the AnTuTu test, but maybe you can try to measure fps when you play *actual* game?
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i don't usually do gaming but i tried dead trigger just for testing
it does have some fps drops sometimes but it is totally playable
but wow now i know this device can get EXTREMELY hot, good thing im not a gamer cause i like the feeling of cold class^^
well thanks all guess its normal then!
Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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From anandtech:
[snapdragon 600] "This is quad core Krait 300 (as opposed to 200 in MSM8960 or APQ8064) which brings a 15 percent increase in IPC as well as higher clocks (from 1.5 to 1.7 GHz), for about 20–30 percent higher overall CPU performance"
20 - 30% So significant but not huge.
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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I read on snapdragon s4 pro and compare it with spec of snapdragon 600 "the only" difference i got is memory technology, s4pro uses 533MHz LPDDR2 and 600 uses LPDDR3
Edit: our phone not made for benchmark, i read somewhere on google+ someone wrote about it.
Btw nexus is always behind in terms of benchmarking, but if you compare the smoothness even galaxy nexus is still so smooth.
Here is the link https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/Q1yVmqtubG9 its exynos4 saga by one of exynos cm maintainer, but he give a reason why our benchmark not as good as optimus G.
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Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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+1 Please
Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Well because sometimes its a good way of comparing the performance of 2 phones - unfortunately not the case with a nexus I've just learned. Eyeball is very subjective, benchmarks are not (well they shouldn't be!).
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lol @ benchmarks please welcome to technology soon as you bought the phone it was considered OLD !
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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S4 Pro is still quick and i can see it being developed in devices for another 2+ years. i would safely assume low end tablets would also start using it when the price of these chips are reduced
Never cared about benchmarks, Even with the PCs I build. I over clock my pcs as much as possible for REAL WORLD usage and as long as they allow me to do everything I want and more and visually everything looks and feels fine and is stable, I'm good to go. Same applies with these phones. The nexus has top of the line internals and stock android allows this phone to be the way it was meant to. Now I have flashed asylum which is awesome, and I have used just about every kernel. I do notice differences in kernels “cough, matrix is the best, cough", but the differences are “seat of the pants" which is a curse in my opinion. Benchmarking stresses components, and at the price of these things why take a chance of shortening its life.
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tuilalnvinh said:
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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That is my point right there.
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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My G2x used to get pretty high benchmarks... I hated that phone.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Yeah its my understanding that quadrant is also really easy to spoof
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AW: Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro
So far I can see only devices with Android 4.1, or less, score pretty high with Krait cores. We havn't any other phone with 4.2 and snapdragon CPU to compare fairly.
The dual core S3 in my Xperia S doesn't feel any difference to the quad core S4 Pro in my Nexus 4 in every day use so i aint going to lose any sleep.
The number I heard thrown around was 40% faster on paper, or theoretically. Real world applications that may translate to less but still somewhat significant depending on your use case.
The kicker is it seems to still be the Adreno 320, is that higher clocked than the S4 Pro? If not it's pushing more pixels in the HTC One.
Hi, anyone bought a exynos version and using it in the UK, if so how much did it cost, where from and are there any hardware issues using it?
I already have an S3, the snapdragon version doesn't seem like a big enough upgrade to me, looking to get the exynos version .
S3 Geekbench 2 -- 1374
S4 I9505 Geekbench 2 -- 3160
How much of an upgrade do you need?
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S3 Geekbench 2 -- 1374
S4 I9505 Geekbench 2 -- 3160
How much of an upgrade do you need?
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Fair point, however I dont see any point spend the same money on an inferior phone, if I'm going to shell out for a new phone might as well get the best version or not bother at all.
Both phones have advantages and disadvantages. Under ideal conditions the CPU speed of the Exynos will give you better performance, although not by much. As a tradeoff the GPU in the I9505 is better and has better OpenGL support.
For me the ease of development for AOKP and CM makes the I9505 the better option and I will use 4G eventually when it becomes more widely available in the UK.
It's a trade off though. Are you prepared to have less support for the phone as a result of importing it? And for a slight performance gain in certain circumstances that won't even be noticeable in real terms? If so then the Exynos model becomes an option but I'm just saying don't expect a big difference between it and the model you can buy today by walking into your local shop. In real life terms you won't see it.
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Both phones have advantages and disadvantages. Under ideal conditions the CPU speed of the Exynos will give you better performance, although not by much. As a tradeoff the GPU in the I9505 is better and has better OpenGL support.
For me the ease of development for AOKP and CM makes the I9505 the better option and I will use 4G eventually when it becomes more widely available in the UK.
It's a trade off though. Are you prepared to have less support for the phone as a result of importing it? And for a slight performance gain in certain circumstances that won't even be noticeable in real terms? If so then the Exynos model becomes an option but I'm just saying don't expect a big difference between it and the model you can buy today by walking into your local shop. In real life terms you won't see it.
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All good points, I may have a rethink.