Buy exynos handset version for UK - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, anyone bought a exynos version and using it in the UK, if so how much did it cost, where from and are there any hardware issues using it?
I already have an S3, the snapdragon version doesn't seem like a big enough upgrade to me, looking to get the exynos version .

S3 Geekbench 2 -- 1374
S4 I9505 Geekbench 2 -- 3160
How much of an upgrade do you need?
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S3 Geekbench 2 -- 1374
S4 I9505 Geekbench 2 -- 3160
How much of an upgrade do you need?
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Fair point, however I dont see any point spend the same money on an inferior phone, if I'm going to shell out for a new phone might as well get the best version or not bother at all.

Both phones have advantages and disadvantages. Under ideal conditions the CPU speed of the Exynos will give you better performance, although not by much. As a tradeoff the GPU in the I9505 is better and has better OpenGL support.
For me the ease of development for AOKP and CM makes the I9505 the better option and I will use 4G eventually when it becomes more widely available in the UK.
It's a trade off though. Are you prepared to have less support for the phone as a result of importing it? And for a slight performance gain in certain circumstances that won't even be noticeable in real terms? If so then the Exynos model becomes an option but I'm just saying don't expect a big difference between it and the model you can buy today by walking into your local shop. In real life terms you won't see it.
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Pagnell said:
Both phones have advantages and disadvantages. Under ideal conditions the CPU speed of the Exynos will give you better performance, although not by much. As a tradeoff the GPU in the I9505 is better and has better OpenGL support.
For me the ease of development for AOKP and CM makes the I9505 the better option and I will use 4G eventually when it becomes more widely available in the UK.
It's a trade off though. Are you prepared to have less support for the phone as a result of importing it? And for a slight performance gain in certain circumstances that won't even be noticeable in real terms? If so then the Exynos model becomes an option but I'm just saying don't expect a big difference between it and the model you can buy today by walking into your local shop. In real life terms you won't see it.
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All good points, I may have a rethink.

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Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro

Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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fredcorp6 said:
Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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fredcorp6 said:
Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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From anandtech:
[snapdragon 600] "This is quad core Krait 300 (as opposed to 200 in MSM8960 or APQ8064) which brings a 15 percent increase in IPC as well as higher clocks (from 1.5 to 1.7 GHz), for about 20–30 percent higher overall CPU performance"
20 - 30% So significant but not huge.
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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I read on snapdragon s4 pro and compare it with spec of snapdragon 600 "the only" difference i got is memory technology, s4pro uses 533MHz LPDDR2 and 600 uses LPDDR3
Edit: our phone not made for benchmark, i read somewhere on google+ someone wrote about it.
Btw nexus is always behind in terms of benchmarking, but if you compare the smoothness even galaxy nexus is still so smooth.
Here is the link https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/Q1yVmqtubG9 its exynos4 saga by one of exynos cm maintainer, but he give a reason why our benchmark not as good as optimus G.
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Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Well because sometimes its a good way of comparing the performance of 2 phones - unfortunately not the case with a nexus I've just learned. Eyeball is very subjective, benchmarks are not (well they shouldn't be!).
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lol @ benchmarks please welcome to technology soon as you bought the phone it was considered OLD !
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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S4 Pro is still quick and i can see it being developed in devices for another 2+ years. i would safely assume low end tablets would also start using it when the price of these chips are reduced
Never cared about benchmarks, Even with the PCs I build. I over clock my pcs as much as possible for REAL WORLD usage and as long as they allow me to do everything I want and more and visually everything looks and feels fine and is stable, I'm good to go. Same applies with these phones. The nexus has top of the line internals and stock android allows this phone to be the way it was meant to. Now I have flashed asylum which is awesome, and I have used just about every kernel. I do notice differences in kernels “cough, matrix is the best, cough", but the differences are “seat of the pants" which is a curse in my opinion. Benchmarking stresses components, and at the price of these things why take a chance of shortening its life.
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tuilalnvinh said:
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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That is my point right there.
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CheesyNutz said:
benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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My G2x used to get pretty high benchmarks... I hated that phone.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Yeah its my understanding that quadrant is also really easy to spoof
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AW: Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro
So far I can see only devices with Android 4.1, or less, score pretty high with Krait cores. We havn't any other phone with 4.2 and snapdragon CPU to compare fairly.
The dual core S3 in my Xperia S doesn't feel any difference to the quad core S4 Pro in my Nexus 4 in every day use so i aint going to lose any sleep.
The number I heard thrown around was 40% faster on paper, or theoretically. Real world applications that may translate to less but still somewhat significant depending on your use case.
The kicker is it seems to still be the Adreno 320, is that higher clocked than the S4 Pro? If not it's pushing more pixels in the HTC One.

is this for real?

Samsung reportedly cooking benchmark books for Exynos-powered Galaxy S4 http://drippler.com/updates/share/s...king-benchmark-books-exynos-powered-galaxy-s4 Via j.mp/getDrippler
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Samsung Galaxy S4 tweaked to achieve unrealistic benchmark results http://drippler.com/updates/share/samsung-galaxy-s4-tweaked-achieve-unrealistic-benchmark-results Via j.mp/getDrippler
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http://allthingsd.com/20130730/samsung-busted-boosting-international-galaxy-s4-benchmarks/
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http://allthingsd.com/20130730/samsung-busted-boosting-international-galaxy-s4-benchmarks/
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Thats low, not that its a big deal but still, what need did they have to cheat on benches?
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This has been going on since the S2 some of our developers even talked about it and that is when scores stopped meaning anything
Wayne Tech Nexus
Now....so samsung himself prooved that they are cheater....they treated very unfair with some consumer (please refer to GSMArena)
It is Unexpected & very Very Dissapoi ting.....
If only....we should have realised when AndreuLux said that Octa core is only gimmic...
....and now Will Samsung compansate for cheating people
i wonder what are the real benches, my phone normally gets around 28000 and 30000 antutu
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samsung has never mentioned anywhere officially that the clock speed of powervr gpu will be 533mhz!! If they mentioned the max speed as 480 mhz and used 533 mhz for benchmarks then it can be considered as cheating. Since this is out all over the net most people dont even know about this and start talking whatever they want!! crap!!
The only thing that can be considered as cheating will be the raise in cpu thermal temp limit by 10C for better scores in antutu.
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Now....so samsung himself prooved that they are cheater....they treated very unfair with some consumer (please refer to GSMArena)
It is Unexpected & very Very Dissapoi ting.....
If only....we should have realised when AndreuLux said that Octa core is only gimmic...
....and now Will Samsung compansate for cheating people
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being not able to use all cores is indeed a shock to andrei, every one including andrei was expecting smp to be enabled some time soon.
So they optimise the phone for benchmarks? Big deal. How about you force your gpu to run at max setting all day and see how your battery fairs.
I understand how this can be seen as disingenuous but it's not nearly as big s deal as allthingsd and anandtech are making. Then again that's news for them..
Just install a custom ROM and check the benchmarks according to the sources this thing has occurred especially due to an apk file which has some several optimization for benchmark apps in stock firmware. I don't find this as cheating because the scores are lot more higher in cm compared to the stock so do you guys think cm team has some secret app to raise the benchmark of the s4 lol
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So whats new, manufacterers all cheat one way or another to make their products look good in tests/benchmarks. The gas mileage of a car is at least 20% higher than advertised because they test with cars that have almost no interior to save weight
Yup. Another example from my industry is lamp life. Obviously not a single led light fitting has ever been tested for 30,000 hours but that's what the manufactures claim. They run the led for only a few seconds and calculate the life based on the carbon degradation over that time. It proves nothing as there are too many variables in the real world which will affect life such as quality of the power supply and ambient temperature.
Joe consumer loves it though, he thinks he's buying a lamp that he'll never need to replace. ..
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Can Note 3 beat iphone 5s in chess benchmark?

See world record by new iphone 5s which clearly on top all android phones right now...:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic_view=threads&p=534985&t=43212
To see if Note 3 is near it all need to do is install droidfish app, set threads to 4 (in settings). From starting position, press M->"Analysis Mode" for 20-30 seconds and check the nps number at the bottom. (pls specifiy if snapdragon or exynos) - For example - see attachment from my note 2...
(EXYNOS - Cortex - VERSION REQUIRED FOR TESTING.)
I'll be honest, I've never heard of this benchmark and I'm struggling to see what I'm looking at here. .. but I ran it because I was curious. Good or bad?
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I have the snap dragon 800 version btw.
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I don't have a Note 3 (damn you Handtec!) but I do have a Snapdragon 800 device (Galaxy S4 LTE-A). When running the benchmark for 20s the score ranged from 560k to 640k.
The Note 3 may perform better, but the S4 didn't hit thermals. It appears that ARM implementations (i.e. Cortex cores) perform better in this benchmark than Krait ones looking at the thread you link to.
madpete said:
I'll be honest, I've never heard of this benchmark and I'm struggling to see what I'm looking at here. .. but I ran it because I was curious. Good or bad?
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Did you set it to 4 threads in the settings menu? The score in your screenshot is lower than my Note 2...
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I have the snap dragon 800 version btw.
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You can look at the chart (at the link) to see its quite bad...But i wonder if Exynos cpu will do better.
Yep, set to 4 threads. It obviously doesn't like this test much then.
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haelio said:
I don't have a Note 3 (damn you Handtec!) but I do have a Snapdragon 800 device (Galaxy S4 LTE-A). When running the benchmark for 20s the score ranged from 560k to 640k.
The Note 3 may perform better, but the S4 didn't hit thermals. It appears that ARM implementations (i.e. Cortex cores) perform better in this benchmark than Krait ones looking at the thread you link to.
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You are right - it looks like Exynos will do better also on Note 3 - but i want formal test to approve it. (btw, S4 Exynos does 820knps...)
It's not only that benchmark comparisons are pretty much useless , this obscure one OP mentioned seems to be even more useless...
The only thing that is more useless than stuff like that, is mentioning iPhone on an Android forum and of course this thread itself...
It ought to be closed, really .....
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I ran it and it's ranging from 500k-600k-640- then back to 500's nps, snapdragon model.
Not sure what it means though.
betoNL said:
It's not only that benchmark comparisons are pretty much useless , this obscure one OP mentioned seems to be even more useless...
The only thing that is more useless than stuff like that, is mentioning iPhone on an Android forum and of course this thread itself...
It ought to be closed, really .....
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+1
Pointless thread
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betoNL said:
It's not only that benchmark comparisons are pretty much useless , this obscure one OP mentioned seems to be even more useless...
The only thing that is more useless than stuff like that, is mentioning iPhone on an Android forum and of course this thread itself...
It ought to be closed, really .....
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it is not useless as this is very demanding benchmark that pulls the juice out of the cpu....OK - we can ignore the iphone 5s since it is 64bits cpu which gives it real benefit in this kind of test...
But we need Note 3 Exynos result to complete the picture...
The benchmark does an infinite search using the engine. Useful to see how the processor and OS work together to accomplish this. This could also point to differences in design, not necessarily deficiencies.
If anything it will show how fast a chess AI using that engine on that hardware will process.
Real world application? Not so much.
its seems very useless benchmark
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MohJee said:
I ran it and it's ranging from 500k-600k-640- then back to 500's nps, snapdragon model.
Not sure what it means though.
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Short explanation:
http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Nodes+per+second
Other processors (just to compare to PC/Servers...i know it is not fair..)
http://www.jens-hartmann.at/Fritzmarks/
yahyoh said:
its seems very useless benchmark
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Same as mine...So, any bets on Note 3 Exynos result? Will it hit 1000k mark?
Need Exynos user to test
Please - if Someone has the Exynos version of the Note 3 - please test.
Someone with Exynos 5420 Note 3 to report result?
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M8 honestly you have a bet or something for this; you will buy a iPhone 5s or a note 3 from this chess thing; all the development of new phones like the 2 you mention are end up been judged by a chess game; I am happy that Apple and Samsung programmers are not Japanese because they would do harakiri
Don't misunderstand me but you can judge things better in your hands after a bit of usage and you can have better opinion easier than to fell to the placebo of benchmarking .
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I understand what you mean... But still benchmark is comparable tool to see which phone will perform better under heavy computation load which tests cpu caches, memory speed, etc - highly tested on chess benchmark on which i know exactly whats is tested compared to other benchmarks that tests so many things and sometimes the result does not mean too much...
It os not only chess - it implies also to other distributed computation workloads - maybe you think who cares for those workloads - but still it gives you insight of the power of the phone in case you will be interested to use it for those workloads.
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[Q] Snapdragon 800 vs Samsung Exynos 5 Octa

Is there a performance difference between the Snapdragon 800 and Samsung Exynos 5 Octa (1.9 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 + 1.3 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7) Core variants in terms of UI fluency thanks in advance.
I have had bad experience with Exynos as they become so slow after time. I will never buy one again.
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I think no difference, or it is very slight. I saw no lags during my daily usage.
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ibrhmymn said:
Is there a performance difference between the Snapdragon 800 and Samsung Exynos 5 Octa (1.9 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 + 1.3 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7) Core variants in terms of UI fluency thanks in advance.
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Many people here says that snapdragon is a much better option. I agree with them.
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Snapdragon is LTE .. Exynos is not.. That's one difference.. The rest may be the same...
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LTE and 4K video on Snapdragon, not on Exynos. Snapdragon has little better GPU, Exynos could be tiny bit little faster on CPU side in some tests, but not others . If anybody has any issues with UI speed it is most likely not hardware issue, but software.
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LTE and 4K video on Snapdragon, not on Exynos. Snapdragon has little better GPU, Exynos could be tiny bit little faster on CPU side in some tests, but not others . If anybody has any issues with UI speed it is most likely not hardware issue, but software.
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well - i think UI is more part of the gpu, so the gpu has to be potent.
If i ware you, ot, i would buy the SD Device. Reason? LTE and a higher cpu clock (I'm testing the wonderchild kernel - 3ghz, fast as hell
Also, there are more kernels for the SD device, as the exynos version is not so popular in many countries...
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well - i think UI is more part of the gpu, so the gpu has to be potent.
If i ware you, ot, i would buy the SD Device. Reason? LTE and a higher cpu clock (I'm testing the wonderchild kernel - 3ghz, fast as hell
Also, there are more kernels for the SD device, as the exynos version is not so popular in many countries...
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thaks for your answer I ask the same question to the Samsung US Chat agent and he said Octacore variant is better in overall performance. What do you think I also closer to the Snapdragon version but I am not in US and due to that reason is there a region lock and it should be unlocked by the service provider. I could not decide.
The only reason I chose the Qcomm over the Exynos is because the former has LTE capability.
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I have had bad experience with Exynos as they become so slow after time. I will never buy one again.
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are you serious about that??
me too would personally prefer the snapdragon over the exynos, but your statement is crap!
if something gets slow over time it's the OS or the nand (4.3 supports the trim command, so this
should not be an issue anymore). like a pc with windows, after some time it gets full of garbage
and this has some impact on performance, not the used processor type!
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thaks for your answer I ask the same question to the Samsung US Chat agent and he said Octacore variant is better in overall performance. What do you think I also closer to the Snapdragon version but I am not in US and due to that reason is there a region lock and it should be unlocked by the service provider. I could not decide.
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I think it's simple.
Does you provider support LTE? ==> GET A QCOMM
It doesn't? ==> GET AN EXYNOS
I hope i could help you
Your post is crap.
How is it is when I factory reset or flash new room? Sånne sit happened to note 1 and 10.1. No more crapy exynos.
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SD800 = 4G LTE & 4k video rec.
Exynos 5 = no 4G LTE & 4k video rec.
kenny1991 said:
Your post is crap.
How is it is when I factory reset or flash new room? Sånne sit happened to note 1 and 10.1. No more crapy exynos.
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lol, you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
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lol, you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
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I would like to ask about the region lock of Note 3, if for example I buy a Note 3 (n9005-snapdragon 800) from Bestbuy and I want to use it in different country which does not support lte can I use it or what should I do to use it thank you in advance

[Q] Where should i buy my Galaxy s4, is galaxy s4 the best option ?

OK, i've been looking phones for days and 3 days ago i ordered a Galaxy s4 on Bestbuy for 500 $ ( tax included ).
I was going to buy a factory international unlocked verison on amazon for 350 $ ish , but i saw some bad reviews ( some say it's fake, some say it's refurbished ) and i decided rather just buy from bestbuy but it's been THREE days !!! they havent ship my phone yet.
Do you guys think i should just cancel the order and buy one from amazon or ebay for 350$, but i think those factory unlocked version doesn't have warranty at all !!
I need help !!
s4 its good phone u will enjoy:thumbup: and I always buy international version cos u get updates direct from samsung not from crappie networks
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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How does 300mhz fast help.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon based chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon pased chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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But still the aggregate increase remains 21%.
Maths aint that tough brother. we are talking the same thing.
21% faster with no ext mem support, no IR blaster and tons of other features go missing. And still the wide acceptance and reputation of the S4 stands strong.
Plus here in India the S5 is almost the same price of a nexus 32gb. Why would one go for a "nexus" in that case too.
Plus Why not buy the google play edition Galaxy S4?
Where is the difference now mate? Just a processor. Camera, build quality, vendor reputation.??
Plus a S4 is A S4. Comparing processing speeds of different processors is no harm. Why do people then compare apple with samsung? Apple is still a dual core with a 1gb ram. So why are they bashed for hardware. I havent seen an iphone lag. (exclude i4 i4s)
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Stop guys, everyone comes here thinks "Damn, I came in a battlefield?" [emoji14]
Tastes are tastes, everyone of us has different tastes among all other... First, Nexus 5 is faster for CPU frequency and GPU is more powerful than S4 (talking about I9505 that beats i9500), S5 is faster than Nexus 5.
How many guys among you may use Nexus 5 at its higher CPU frequency? How many hours battery lasts?
In my opinion, I used a Nexus 5 (with CM11 as my S4) and found that I can't notice any speed difference in normal and heavy use between its 2.3GHz CPU and my S4 with this frequencies: 1 core 1.67GHz, 2/3/4 core 1.45GHz. Even in games, S4 can run any game for Android without problems.
What about Cameras? What about S4's AMOLED vs N5's LCD? What about display density? And IR blaster?
Nexus 5 is more brute force and developer-like, not the best for multimediality.
S4's cameras shoot definitely better, display is superior, has IR led built-in if you want to command your IR devices like televisions, air conditioners, set top boxes, xbox etc. And it's not all [emoji6]
I was almost selling my device to buy Oneplus One, but I can't because I love my S4 guys, it's too perfect in my opinion.
Don't do always and only the "run for GHz", think about everything else too
There are also tons of other things to say, but it's late here and I'm sleepy [emoji42]
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