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This thing is stupid,Its even beating Duel-Core LG Star

hi everyone
i just come from a Hero and got this thing,its crazy s**t
put desire hd android on its awsome,beats my Hero anyday.lol.
i noticed thats guys on here are getting quadrant scores of 2000+ i aint got to that point yet but then i was looking at Gsmarena at the new Lg star,if you have look at the bottom of page in the vid bit, only ses 2146 and guys on here are getting more,its flippen unreal hows it whipping a duel-core mobi.it shoulda been an android phone from the start
ps anyone know why the music EQ aint working mdj desire hd 4.4

the lg what ?
even if it had a million cores , i wouldnt buy non htc

We have like really good CPU power and I/O scores...
in the video your talking about.... it takes a while to get thru these tests.... but it flies thru the 2D and 3D test....
so it has a great GPU but Lg failed at making their I/O scores decent... which is fine... cuz Android likes animations and thats more of GPU than I/O or CPU....
anyhow... probably not worth switching... waiting for tegra III or IV on a htc device...

souljaboy said:
the lg what ?
even if it had a million cores , i wouldnt buy non htc
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same here. those guys are too lazy to update their roms.

Seeing as quadrant doesn't support multithreading, it would only be benchmarking one of the cores anyway...

Quadrant scores don't really mean anything. There's a lot of things that can boost up a quadrant score but that doesn't actually mean its faster or smoother. Also, any rooted and properly tweaked native phone of similar specs will beat the hd2 any day. Everyone always compares the tweaked and modified hd2s quadrant scores to stock android phones, which isn't a fair comparison if they aren't also rooted and tweaked. My friend with a nexus one easily gets over 3000 on his quadrant scores. It all depends how you tweak it. A native phone will probably always be able to outperform a port of android.... but atleast we can run multiple OS's.
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Low Benchmarks scores

I know about the differences in benchmarks and how they arent set up for dual core, but I just ran smartbench 2011 and my gaming score is off by 1000 points on a stock xoom, I am rooted and running stock kernel. I am not sure why, maybe something is wrong with it.

My quadrant scores are lower than my dx but my linpack score is 64mflops! Don't know why our quadrant scores are so low but I'm having the same problem.
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Off from what? A phone? Synthetic benchmarks say almost nothing about real world performance, and they will always be different with devices at different resolutions.
A 1280x800 tablet will always score unusually low on a graphics benchmark that scales to resolution compared to a phone.

Usmc7356 said:
My quadrant scores are lower than my dx but my linpack score is 64mflops! Don't know why our quadrant scores are so low but I'm having the same problem.
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Quadrant also places a lot of weight on the filesystem, and my Xoom always hangs quite a while during database writes.
Also I think that getting ~6 FPS on their first 2D animation test can't help.
The Xoom is really zippy, take the benchmarks with many, many grains of salt.

I was just talking about smart bench, everything else is working fine, but the smartbench 2011 shows a galaxy s as being more powerful than my xoom, and the half the speed of a stock xoom. I am just wondering if other people were showing that they are below what a stock xoom should be too.

you have to make sure that these benchmarks are compatible with dual core processors. otherwise the results are moot.

I know that, but it is shows below the average xoom, thats the problem I am seeing, average xoom gets like 2k I get 1k

I was having the same issue, I believe it is because of spare parts for gaming full screen. I factory restored my xoom and scored higher than average. The benchmark ran on a much smaller screen when I ran it on a fresh xoom.

joepfalzgraf said:
I was having the same issue, I believe it is because of spare parts for gaming full screen. I factory restored my xoom and scored higher than average. The benchmark ran on a much smaller screen when I ran it on a fresh xoom.
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Confirmed that is it, thanks for this I guess I was overlooking it and thinking my xoom wasnt up to par.

[Q] Benchmark extremely low?

No matter how i try i usually get 12k on AnTuTu
my highest was 14k
Im lower than HoX and in the chart Nexus 4 shows 18k...
Anyone knows why mine is that much lower?
Is this a defect or what?
Some guy says ignore it benchmarks mean nothing but its not like im just a little bit lower...
It is 4-6k difference :S
Isn't that strange considering other people with the same device score 18k?

ruzkay said:
No matter how i try i usually get 12k on AnTuTu
my highest was 14k
Im lower than HoX and in the chart Nexus 4 shows 18k...
Anyone knows why mine is that much lower?
Is this a defect or what?
Some guy says ignore it benchmarks mean nothing but its not like im just a little bit lower...
It is 4-6k difference :S
Isn't that strange considering other people with the same device score 18k?
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Is your phone laging, running slower other then the benchmarks? Also we need more info like what kernel/rom are you running.

What ROM/kernel are you running, what temperature was your phone at? Is there any apps running in background?
If a freshly installed stock ROM, with only AnTuTu installed, and you score 30% less than other Nexus 4 in benchmarking, then yes, there is a reason to worry about
Edit: for the record, I tried AnTuTu when I just got my N4, and always scored lower than their reference N4.
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I tried on these setups:
Stock with stock kernel
Stock with faux kernel
AOKP with included kernel
i just tried again with a fresh install of stock and scored 14,5k
well its still 3,5k difference what can I do about that any idea?
edit: basically what im worried about is that the only scores i see around my score are people with severely underclocked devices (600 MHz, 700 MHz)
seems like im the only one :S

Benchmarks mean nothing. Don't bother looking at them.

zephiK said:
Benchmarks mean nothing. Don't bother looking at them.
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if they dont mean anything then why do they exist?
I'm not worried about scoring low, I'm worried about scoring considerably lower than the exact same device.
There must somehow be a reason for it I guess?
Meh nvm I'm just sad that mine is possibly the weakest Nexus 4 on the planet get only 18 fps in that lighning 3d test with the 2 characters fighting...
e: please close this thread it was a stupid question to ask I guess I'm sorry

OP:
I am sorry to hear your frustration. Did you check your CPU binning yet? I can't recall how my phone perform on the AnTuTu test, but maybe you can try to measure fps when you play *actual* game?
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Even Chainfire makes benchmark app. I would love to see how you tell Chainfire that his app means nothing. That would make a really interesting conversation with lots of good stuffs to learn
From my point of view, benchmark does not tell real world performance, however it is a wildly used, totally valid tool to compare *hardware* performance. After all, benchmarking (or hardware profilling, to be precise) is what separate a 1.2GHz CPU from a 1.5GHz CPU of identical architecture, isn't it? I'll take the 1.5GHz one even if it means nothing from your point of view
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I always get around mid to high 17k, sometimes 18... bone stock... Your situation is interesting to say the least...

I see the note II with 24k despite the fact it has quad A9s... This is why you should ignore the benchmarks.
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Sounds like you may be thermal throttling. As a test, out your phone in a zip lock bag in the freezer for 10 minutes and then repeat the benchmark.

mattb3 said:
Sounds like you may be thermal throttling. As a test, out your phone in a zip lock bag in the freezer for 10 minutes and then repeat the benchmark.
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wow i knew of thermal throttling but didn't think it kicks in in only 1 benchmark!
yes thats it! i tried the benchmark while putting the phone on a very cool surface (glass desk)
and it scored 17k the 1k difference left is redundant i think^^
KyraOfFire said:
OP:
I am sorry to hear your frustration. Did you check your CPU binning yet? I can't recall how my phone perform on the AnTuTu test, but maybe you can try to measure fps when you play *actual* game?
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i don't usually do gaming but i tried dead trigger just for testing
it does have some fps drops sometimes but it is totally playable
but wow now i know this device can get EXTREMELY hot, good thing im not a gamer cause i like the feeling of cold class^^
well thanks all guess its normal then!

I have my shield

And its awesome. Feel free to ask any questions.
I'm a noob when it comes to system dumps but if anyone provides me a step by step I'd gladly contribute.
PC streaming is flawless. Zero lag. I'm shocked at how good it is.
EDIT:
System dump is up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44190310#post44190310

Endorn said:
And its awesome. Feel free to ask any questions.
I'm a noob when it comes to system dumps but if anyone provides me a step by step I'd gladly contribute.
PC streaming is flawless. Zero lag. I'm shocked at how good it is.
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Was it difficult to set up the PC streaming?

It's not hard to setup PC streaming at all. Just make sure you have the latest download of system updates for your shield (mine wouldn't let me do it for hours after receiving it), then make sure your GeForce Experiece has a tick mark for Beta drivers to be installed.
Once you tell it to stream it will pop up for a prompt 1 time to ask if it is ok to join and you are done! GAME ON!
Zero lag, runs perfect all over my house and upstairs.

My SHIELD will get here today if fedex decides to deliver it today. FYI fedex is worse then usps where I live.

Is there a way you could post the default wallpaper?
Sent from a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away........

I can when i get it, but fedex will not be delivering it for at least another 7 hours

chevyowner said:
I can when i get it, but fedex will not be delivering it for at least another 7 hours
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Sounds like a long and painful wait lol I'm probably not gonna be able to get mine for another month or two though
Sent from a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away........

yay! it got here early!
will add wallpaper shortly.
Update
My internet is so extremely slow It is taking minutes to load pages, and I am having no luck uploading anything.
I have found 2 so far they are here.
Mediafire Link

Those aren't them. I'll get them tonight after the kids go to bed.
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Grrr.....my internet is horrible about 2 hours downloading the new Geforce drivers, and according to firefox 2+ more to go. Maybe I should 'upgrade' my 7Mbps broaband to dialup it might be faster....Yay 7kb average download speed on dsl... I would be having more luck but the internet is causing major problems.
I also said so far...meaing i am still looking.
Is this it?
View
Here

chevyowner said:
Grrr.....my internet is horrible about 2 hours downloading the new Geforce drivers, and according to firefox 2+ more to go. Maybe I should 'upgrade' my 7Mbps broaband to dialup it might be faster....Yay 7kb average download speed on dsl... I would be having more luck but the internet is causing major problems.
I also said so far...meaing i am still looking.
Is this it?
View
Here
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That's it. Can't say I'm impressed by it... :-/

Hardcore73 said:
It's not hard to setup PC streaming at all. Just make sure you have the latest download of system updates for your shield (mine wouldn't let me do it for hours after receiving it)
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Can you post the version info from your working Shield (android version, kernel, build id)? Mine keeps saying no updates, but I'm having streaming issues. Thanks!

rustak said:
Can you post the version info from your working Shield (android version, kernel, build id)? Mine keeps saying no updates, but I'm having streaming issues. Thanks!
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Model Number
SHIELD
Android version
4.2.1
Kernel Version
3.4.10-g65c8a35
[email protected] #1
Fri Jul 26 23:30:03 PDT 2013
Build number
JOP40D.8857_206.8556
If this isn't what you're showing, PM me and I'll help get you fixed.

Op can you load up 3D Mark and run both regular and high quality benches? Would love to see how tegra4 performs on 3D benchmarks. Its a free app.

demandarin said:
Op can you load up 3D Mark and run both regular and high quality benches? Would love to see how tegra4 performs on 3D benchmarks. Its a free app.
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Apparently, I score less than most...
Highest Ice Storm Score: 11423
Highest Ice Storm Extreme Score: 9566

agrabren said:
Apparently, I score less than most...
Highest Ice Storm Score: 11423
Highest Ice Storm Extreme Score: 9566
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Those are great scores but I would've thought tegra4 score higher.
My LG Optimus G Pro 5.5 in. 1080P display with Snapdragon 600 and Andreno 320 scored:
Highest Ice storm Score: 11113
Highest Ice Storm Extreme Score: 6442
So tegra 4 is beasting on the more demanding/higher quality bench.

agrabren said:
Apparently, I score less than most...
Highest Ice Storm Score: 11423
Highest Ice Storm Extreme Score: 9566
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I got over 18k on the standard test.
Buuuut I only got a 14k in quadrant. Which is less than my friends stock SGS4. Lol
Linpack multi thread scores suck. Getting around 100Mflops But I'm thinking the 5th core is possibly the cause for that?

s0me guy said:
I got over 18k on the standard test.
Buuuut I only got a 14k in quadrant. Which is less than my friends stock SGS4. Lol
Linpack multi thread scores suck. Getting around 100Mflops But I'm thinking the 5th core is possibly the cause for that?
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SGS4 it turns out may have some trickery under the hood to optimise specifically for these benchmark tests though giving a totally false impression. How or why samsung would do such a thing is beyond me though.
The 5th core on the tegra chip is only enabled when the 4 main cores shut down, its for power saving. Used in sleep mode primarily, but it is possible for the phone.tablet or even shield to fire up and navigate around the UI on the companion core alone. Its not intended as a fully fledged core. Might impact on benchmarks, might not, I never benchmarked my nexus 7 (which is broken now) and don't have any other tegra device to benchmark, or much else to compare the benchmark with actually.

I like using MAME to test how good the CPU function is, since besides pushing light to the display, the GPU does about nothing with MAME. A good game to test is Dead or Alive + (the zip is doapp.zip and needs tps.zip for bios). That game plays slow on all current chips, but plays the least slow on the 4470 and Snap 600. It would be nice to see if plays smooth on the Shield. I doubt it will, but IF the Tegra 4 is truly a major increase for CPU power, it should be a step above current chips.
The reason MAME does not use the GPU is all arcade games used special 3D hardware, or derivatives of chips that are not practival to emulate. In summary, it is all CPU, baby- including the newest PC version.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
SGS4 it turns out may have some trickery under the hood to optimise specifically for these benchmark tests though giving a totally false impression. How or why samsung would do such a thing is beyond me though.
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This is very common in the GPU industry. I don't really know in the mobile space (I'm not willing to make any of my code treat a benchmark differently).
I have no idea why I scored so low, as it even told me I scored poorly against other users benchmarks for the same device.

Tips to increase I/O?

Running BeanStalk 4.3 here. Love it. But for some reason I just cannot get my I/O speeds as high as my old Galaxy S2.
(Warning alert!) I know Quadrant isn't everything, don't get me wrong here guys
I typically hit 4000 in Quadrant in the I/O side of things. Yet my Galaxy S2 without any change to Cm10.1 hits 6000+ every time. I mean it just rockets on up there without a hitch. And as old as it is, it's still very very snappy. I noticed the Droid DNA hits 9000 in I/O which blows my mind.
I'm presuming that faster I/O increases everything else, akin to an SSD making a PC faster with the same Processor and such specs.
Or am I daft?
It just puzzles me
I had an issue with my Nexus 4 when it was my daily device, It was laggy as hell and I had thought I'd blown something up. Nope, turns out the I/O scored around 1500. Change the I/O Scheduler and fooled around till I got it back to 5000. BAM. Lag gone.
Or maybe I worry to much?
Eh, more speed the better

Locklear308 said:
Running BeanStalk 4.3 here. Love it. But for some reason I just cannot get my I/O speeds as high as my old Galaxy S2.
(Warning alert!) I know Quadrant isn't everything, don't get me wrong here guys
I typically hit 4000 in Quadrant in the I/O side of things. Yet my Galaxy S2 without any change to Cm10.1 hits 6000+ every time. I mean it just rockets on up there without a hitch. And as old as it is, it's still very very snappy. I noticed the Droid DNA hits 9000 in I/O which blows my mind.
I'm presuming that faster I/O increases everything else, akin to an SSD making a PC faster with the same Processor and such specs.
Or am I daft?
It just puzzles me
I had an issue with my Nexus 4 when it was my daily device, It was laggy as hell and I had thought I'd blown something up. Nope, turns out the I/O scored around 1500. Change the I/O Scheduler and fooled around till I got it back to 5000. BAM. Lag gone.
Or maybe I worry to much?
Eh, more speed the better
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You mean I/O getting 9000 itself or all together? And the I/o on this phone is great. However I have noticed on aosp ROMS that the benchmarking don't touch that of a touch wiz based. It might just be drivers but who knows. In total I can hit about 13000 average score quadrant.
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Tylorw1 said:
You mean I/O getting 9000 itself or all together? And the I/o on this phone is great. However I have noticed on aosp ROMS that the benchmarking don't touch that of a touch wiz based. It might just be drivers but who knows. In total I can hit about 13000 average score quadrant.
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13,000? Whoa, I get about 8200. The phone feels fast, but opening photos is a big slow.
I/O it's self.

I don't have that problem. The problem I have revolving around that is the touch wiz gallery lags like mad but I like the camera app itself. Download ROM toolbox and run the tests it has.
Tylor
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