Yesterday I fell prey to purchasing a T8585. Which will not work for me in 3G. I figured that out after I purchased. However I may have got the seller to stop the device from going out. He says he contacted the warehouse to stop, he hasn't emailed me again yet.
Anyway I had another thought that I haven't seen on this site before. Since the hd2 t9193 is so incredibly expensive and out of my price range, and I may have to drop this WM6/android phone obsession in general. I can't find any where that offers a price under $600. People realize what they have and that it's highly sought after. Like a late model sports car, not made anymore. Has anyone thought of this idea: That of, Taking a hot fine-point soldering iron and pulling the 900/2100 3G band chip off the board, and replacing it with another one that will work? Is it that rare of a kind of chip... not possible?
Obviously the builders do it easily.
I asked nearly the same question to 'Wayne Hardman' of Hattix and received this reply:
---The short answer is: "No".
The long answer is that on UMTS Or HSDPA the T9193 is an 850 MHz device, while the T8585 is 900/2100, but the kicker is that you need to replace the entire logic board. The T9193 is hardware locked to not use 800 or 900 MHz bands while the T8585 is locked to not use 850 MHz (some Broadcomm patent or other) and you need to replace the entire baseband to do that. Some of the baseband is in the "radio chip", but some of it is also in the QSD8250 SoC.
So what I'd do is indeed replace the entire logic board. Just pick one up from eBay which has a smashed screen or something like that. Alternatively, if you don't care much for 3G at all (why not carry around a MiFi or similar?) then both devices will work on AT&T's 2G/EDGE network."----
But I do care about 3G. To follow up on my 1st thread, I have not heard again from the seller as to whether it has been shipped or stopped, nor has the money been returned.
I was able to cancel my transaction completely, and I received a full-refund. I was fortunate. I'm now considering to give up completely on the Win 6.5. It is sad really. I cannot find any good way to live in both worlds anymore. The HD2 was a good dream. Pretty soon I will purchase a high-end Android phone with top-of-line specs under a contract.
I would love a T9193
I live in mexico an have the same problem with 3G and would love to get my hands on a T9193, 3g would work great!
Which one is for tmobile and which is for att?
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TMOUS HD2 is for t-mobile US with 1700/2100 3g
this model has 1GB flash memory, green call & red end key & plastic body extends about 1.5mm extra from bottom edge of the glass screen to incorporate the different radio hardware
T9193 is Australia Telstra model with 850/2100 3g which did work under att
T8585 is standard worldwide model with 1900/2100 3g
All models are quad-band GSM but TMOUS model has by far the best reception from my testing due to better antenna design.
Mister B said:
TMOUS HD2 is for t-mobile US with 1700/2100 3g
this model has 1GB flash memory, green call & red end key & plastic body extends about 1.5mm extra from bottom edge of the glass screen to incorporate the different radio hardware
T9193 is Australia Telstra model with 850/2100 3g which did work under att
T8585 is standard worldwide model with 1900/2100 3g
All models are quad-band GSM but TMOUS model has by far the best reception from my testing due to better antenna design.
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Sorry for bumping this thread, but can i just swap the logic board from mt TMOBILE HD2 into my new HTC HD2 T8585?
If USA T-Mobile with green/red call/end keys the board probably won't fit in the EU T8585 rear housing as USA T-Mobile mainboard is bit longer & casing on the USA T-Mobile differs to allow for this.
T8585 boards can go to USA T-Mobile but usb & headset socket sit short.
You best looking into it as you could use the USA T-Mobile rear cover housing too perhaps.
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I live in the US. I am on the t-mobile network (without data) using a Euro HD2.
What are the benefits of having the T-mobile USA HD2? I have the Euro version.
Basically someone wants to buy my HD2 for $550.00 USD (Which I bought for $600.00 USD). Why couldn't they just get the T-mobile version? It's cheaper.
In terms of hardware wise, its exactly the same internally except that American HD2 has 1GB of ROM. I mean, if I can shove the American hd2 hardware into the euro framework, I would.
Someone tell me why I shouldn't sell my euro HD2 and buy a brand-new, in-box American HD2 on ebay for $400.00 USD?
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I live in the US. I am on the t-mobile network (without data) using a Euro HD2.
What are the benefits of having the T-mobile USA HD2? I have the Euro version.
Basically someone wants to buy my HD2 for $550.00 USD (Which I bought for $600.00 USD). Why couldn't they just get the T-mobile version? It's cheaper.
In terms of hardware wise, its exactly the same internally except that American HD2 has 1GB of ROM. I mean, if I can shove the American hd2 hardware into the euro framework, I would.
Someone tell me why I shouldn't sell my euro HD2 and buy a brand-new, in-box American HD2 on ebay for $400.00 USD?
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1. US version uses different frequences for 3G. So if you're planning to use your phone primarily on any network other than T-Mobile US, and you care about 3G, then you should keep your European version.
2. US version is locked to T-Mobile network. (Can be unlocked, though)
3. US verision is slightly longer, may be an issue if you're using a hard case.
Other than that I don't see any reasons why you shouldn't.
American HD2 can have 3G only in US and almost nowhere else on Earth. It's as simple as that. If you travel a lot, you would most probably get Euro HD2.
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1. US version uses different frequences for 3G. So if you're planning to use your phone primarily on any network other than T-Mobile US, and you care about 3G, then you should keep your European version.
2. US version is locked to T-Mobile network. (Can be unlocked, though)
3. US verision is slightly longer, may be an issue if you're using a hard case.
Other than that I don't see any reasons why you shouldn't.
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1) Can the Euro HD2 use American AT&T 3G? Or are the frequencies totally different. As far as I know, I wont be going anywhere outside of the US any time within the next 5 years.
2) It can be unlocked, sure. Was the Euro Hd2 every lock to begin with? Mines was already unlocked when I got it on ebay.
3) That extra 1mm length does make the US HD2 ugly. But It doesnt hurt since I HATE using device cases since it takes the beauty away from the device. I use invisibleshield (Looks best if you know how to put one on!) and a Vuikiti Screen protector.
I can always swap out the color hardware keys to the euro's all-white keys, and the main screen as well so I don't have the t-mobile logo. If I am correct, the extra 1mm length is on the bottom of the rubber coating cover and not on the glass?
I am still not convinced why I shouldn't sell my HD2 and buy a new one for much, MUCH, much cheaper...
lemonspeakers said:
1) Can the Euro HD2 use American AT&T 3G? Or are the frequencies totally different. As far as I know, I wont be going anywhere outside of the US any time within the next 5 years.
2) It can be unlocked, sure. Was the Euro Hd2 every lock to begin with? Mines was already unlocked when I got it on ebay.
3) That extra 1mm length does make the US HD2 ugly. But It doesnt hurt since I HATE using device cases since it takes the beauty away from the device. I use invisibleshield (Looks best if you know how to put one on!) and a Vuikiti Screen protector.
I can always swap out the color hardware keys to the euro's all-white keys, and the main screen as well so I don't have the t-mobile logo. If I am correct, the extra 1mm length is on the bottom of the rubber coating cover and not on the glass?
I am still not convinced why I shouldn't sell my HD2 and buy a new one for much, MUCH, much cheaper...
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The glass is slightly longer on the US HD2, I believe. I got a vikuiti screen protector for my t-mo US HD2 and it doesn't fit perfect... but it isn't that noticeable. I would go ahead and the the T-Mo US HD2 if you're using T-Mobile anyways.
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1) Can the Euro HD2 use American AT&T 3G? Or are the frequencies totally different. As far as I know, I wont be going anywhere outside of the US any time within the next 5 years.
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As far as I know, yes, Euro HD2 will work with AT&T 3G. I had a Euro version of HTC Kaiser and tried it once with a friend's AT&T SIM and 3G worked.
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As far as I know, yes, Euro HD2 will work with AT&T 3G. I had a Euro version of HTC Kaiser and tried it once with a friend's AT&T SIM and 3G worked.
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Ummm, no. The Euro HD2 will not work with AT&T 3G. If it did, do you think people (like myself) would spend $800-900 for the Telstra model?
Benefits of Tmo-us HD2:
dropped calls
3G and Edge switching
different ROM
slightly longer phone?
only Tmobile Band frequency...
I don't if you would still call them benefits though lol...
meh, I'll keep the TMOUS HD2 though.
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As far as I know, yes, Euro HD2 will work with AT&T 3G. I had a Euro version of HTC Kaiser and tried it once with a friend's AT&T SIM and 3G worked.
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Some phones are "world" phones and have radios to go around the globe, not many offer full 3g though. All GSM phones work on Edge though. I would love it if they would do the same with the 3g frequencies. Would make their roll outs cheaper as everyone has the same gear...
Only the Telstra Aussie version works with ATT3g if you live in an 850 mhz zone. Which ATT is trying to switch over to completely I believe.
The T-Mobile phone has been good to me, I do switch to edge and back more than I would like but so far I am not sorry I bought it.
If you have the Euro phone why not try the proxy tweak on this forum (if you use att) and see how much you can get out of edge?
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American HD2 can have 3G only in US and almost nowhere else on Earth. It's as simple as that. If you travel a lot, you would most probably get Euro HD2.
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I thought this too, but I just traveled with my unlocked U.S. T-Mobile HD2 in Netherlands and Latvia and got 3G with my prepaid T-Mobile NL and BiFri sim cards.
Ok. Im a little new for all the different terms with a cell phone radio and all that. But theres something that i just cant seem to get a grip on. The US HD2 supports only the 1700/2100mhz for UMTS. Which means all of us ATT users cant have the use of 3g and i believe it hinders the use of the HD2 here on ATT. Theres a few things I cant seem to understand and some things I need technical expertise on:
Ive been reading about the hd2 and i found that the cellular modem is built inside the snapdragon processor. (found that from qualcomm and on pdadb.net)
If the processor is the same for both models why cant it accept the umts850 and 1900 mhz bands?
Answer to that: Im told its hard-coded on the 3g chips and cant be changed.
Question to that answer: Why is there a ROM update for the Dopod HD2 that in fact ADDS support for the UMTS900 MHZ band? If its hard-coded on the chip then why is there a software update for it? Can that update be somehow modified to add umts 850/1900/etc band support. its just some of the specs and things ive found online (mostly here at XDA) just dont seem to add up.
My overall summary:
Processors are both the QSD8250 which supports ALL GSM types (by that i dont mean all freq. bands.) So the cellular modem inside the phones are the same.
Different basebands on the different models when its "hard-coded" on the phones themselves.
Why a software update adding support for another baseband freq?
Someone please elighten me. I just think that theres more to this whole baseband thing than we know since we seem to believe one thing, but theres other official work that disproves those claims.
I use:
TMO HD2 (HardSPL'd and unlocked to AT&T)
WM ROM: Omega XT V14
Android ROM: Mdeejay's Froyo Sense 3.1
Radio: 50.4 version.
The reason the Dopod HD2 got that software update is because that band was always there, but WinMo couldn't utilize it. What you have read about the processor being locked to band X/X is completely correct. The T-Mobile US HD2 will only ever support 1700/2100 because thats what revision of Snapdragon it's using. The Dopod model is using a different revision and always had support for the 900 band. The only way the US HD2 will ever get 3G on ATT is if ATT switches to the 1700 band, or if the processor is upgraded. If you really wan't 3G that bad, I would look into getting an international HD2 as some of them do indeed support ATT 3G.
Ok but if all 3 (us,Telstra,and dopod) use the qsd8250b then wouldnt they all be able to add support for other frequencies that the 3g chip can use or is it that there's different antenna types for different regions or somethin?
Sent from my HTC HD2
What I mean is that, when they are makeing the processors for each board revision, IE the US and EU boards, they enable or disable the frequencies at a hardware level. You can't just flip a switch and have that feature turned on, its not that simple. The processor type is the QSD8205B, but there are many different internal revisions. The antenna's for GSM networks are more or less the same, no matter what the frequency.
ahh see thats what i was thinking... (darn it got my hopes up for nothin) I do wanna get the international but i dont have 500+ to spend and i doubt i can trade in this hd2 for the telstra one, but boy would it be nice (we have a 3g microcell and id like to be inside my house to be able to make a call, even though inside i have 2 bars sometimes and it wont call at all)
Dang it ATT. You and your messed up networks.....
Mourer09 said:
i doubt i can trade in this hd2 for the telstra one, but boy would it be nice (we have a 3g microcell and id like to be inside my house to be able to make a call, even though inside i have 2 bars sometimes and it wont call at all)
Dang it ATT. You and your messed up networks.....
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You would be surprised. People might trade due to the fact that the US version has double the internal memory..
Well if anyone would trade please pm me I could throw in like 50-100 cash if you have something worth it please.
crisisinthecity said:
You would be surprised. People might trade due to the fact that the US version has double the internal memory..
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Do you know how much this slows down the speed / performance of the T-Mo HD2?
I got an HD2 specifically to move away from the lag so many winmo devices have and never looked back since. I'm on ATT and it would definately be nice to have 3G.
okay so i reacently read on engadget that att bought qualcomms 700mhz band or soemthign like that. would that mean we get 3g or soemthing liek that?
Most likely 4g. (Why would they want a second 3g network) And if thats the case, there is NO hd2 anywhere which can handle 700mhz,
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Do you know how much this slows down the speed / performance of the T-Mo HD2?
I got an HD2 specifically to move away from the lag so many winmo devices have and never looked back since. I'm on ATT and it would definately be nice to have 3G.
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Buy yourself a HTC HD2 T8585, this is supported on ATT 3G network.
I got 1690 down / 2201 up
with my TMO HD2 on ATT
I got 70 up / 226 down
YMMV
qqdawg said:
Buy yourself a HTC HD2 T8585, this is supported on ATT 3G network.
I got 1690 down / 2201 up
with my TMO HD2 on ATT
I got 70 up / 226 down
YMMV
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I would love to get my hands on a T8585, however don't have the $500+ extra available funds for one. Sometime this year I will track one down. It's a great backup phone to my Dell Streak, especially since now we can boot to Android directly.
qqdawg said:
Buy yourself a HTC HD2 T8585, this is supported on ATT 3G network.
I got 1690 down / 2201 up
with my TMO HD2 on ATT
I got 70 up / 226 down
YMMV
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The T8585 is the model that TmoUS sells. It definitely does NOT support 3g on AT&T!
hitekredneck said:
The T8585 is the model that TmoUS sells. It definitely does NOT support 3g on AT&T!
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No it is not, the T8585 is the Euro version of the HD2 (512 LEO)
From SamSamuel on XDA
T9193 is the telstra and uses
GSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/2100MHz
T8585 is the regular HD2 and uses
GSM 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS 900/2100MHz
Not sure what the model number of the tmous is (PB81120 is the model ID) and it works on
GSM850/900/1800/1900, UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
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European/Asian/TmoUS HD2 (aka T8585) = NO workie on AT&T 3G
Telstra HD2 (aka T9193) = YES workie on AT&T 3G
There, hopefully that's better for the everyone who are still confuse of which is which.
lude219 said:
European/Asian/TmoUS HD2 (aka T8585) = NO workie on AT&T 3G
Telstra HD2 (aka T9193) = YES workie on AT&T 3G
There, hopefully that's better for the everyone who are still confuse of which is which.
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and T 9193 is for Australia with 512rom
coldest~~~ said:
and T 9193 is for Australia with 512rom
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Only the TmoUS HD2 has 1024 ROM. The rest has 512, yes.
Hello, I am Kingdomfalls, I am from Canada, and I have been looking at the HD2 for quite a while, and it's really starting to grab my interest.
However, I have a few questions.
First of all, I have seen, in my research, a number of different models given for the same specifications. For example, there is the T8585 from Australia that seems to have the same baseband as the T9193, also from Australia. My question on this is whether the phone, when stated to be a T8585 with the 850 mhz band would be the same as the T9193?
Second of all, as I have noticed a number of HD2s on eBay with cracked screens/broken digitizers, I was wondering how difficult it would be to replace the digitizer. I have done repair projects before, just not to anything with a touchscreen. On a rating of one to ten, how difficult do you think it would be to replace the digitizer?
Third, I saw the General T9193 discussion thread, however, of the links given, one is dead, one I cannot seem to find either the price or the a potential link to buy and the third is rather pricey and I would prefer alternative options. So, are any of you aware of a more accessible or less expensive option than those given on the thread.
Thank you to any one of you who responds in advance. These threads are excellent resources, and I am very appreciative of the amount of time and work must of gone into them.
T8585 is the worldwide version, or "regular hd2" or sometimes euro hd2,, the one that most people outside of the USA have.
T9193 is the telstra model, identical to the t8585 except for the supported bands.
The tmous, or "t mobile USA" doesn't seem to have a txxxx number, and is the only one to have different hardware specs, (not counting supported bands) namely more rom.
Replacing just the digitizer is probably tgw hardest of all, since it involves completely (and I do mean completely) dissasembling the phone, and baking in an oven at 60degrees for ten mins to separate the digitizer from the glass and screen. Though you can buy whole screen,digi,glass all in one which would be somewhat easier. There are the official htc disassembly vids on YouTube.
OK, thank you that is quite helpful.
Then, from what I gather from what you've said is that:
T8585 is 900/2100
T9193 is 850/2100
Are there any T8585s that have the 850? Only reason I ask is that I have seen numerous T8585s on eBay *supposedly* having the 850 band, and they were from australia.
Not so far as I've ever heard of, no. There are only three models.
However the 8585 (all three models, probably) does support 850 GSM band (edge, Gprs, calls, NOT hsdpa ((3g))l so perhaps that's where the confusion is?
Yeah, I got the 850 GSM at first, but it was actually this that got me ( if I'm violating any rules by posting this please remove):
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-HD2-Mobile-Phone-/140540125334?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item20b8d82096
The author states it's a T8585 yet it's specs are for 850 HSPDA, as well this posting:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
States that the Aussie version is the T8585 with 850 HSPDA.
I'm sorry if I'm being difficult, I'm just very confused at the moment.
No, you aren't being difficult,you're right to query it, but what can I say? No one has ever posted on this site with a t8585 that has the 850hsdpa band. There are only three versions of hd2.
The eBay link is wrong, the second link is just badly written in that yes the Australian version DOES have 850,,,, and also a different model code.
Why don't you phone HTC?
@everyone,,,,,,, anyone got a t8585 with 850mhz hsdpa?
Hi everyone. I'm buying a used, unlocked T-Mobile DVP 8GB soon, manufactured around January 2011 and is supposedly running Mango. I realize the phone is filled with issues, but they have supposedly been fixed by now. I'm just wondering if there are any specific issues I should check for before going ahead with the sale. Thanks!
No compass...yet
That's fine with me. I was thinking more along the line of things like checking all the keys to make sure they type the right letter (saw in another thread that x and z were switched for some reason), the device can be detected by a computer when connecting through USB, the phone doesn't reboot when you touch the screen, etc...
Also, what's the latest firmware/OS version for the DVP right now?
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That's fine with me. I was thinking more along the line of things like checking all the keys to make sure they type the right letter (saw in another thread that x and z were switched for some reason), the device can be detected by a computer when connecting through USB, the phone doesn't reboot when you touch the screen, etc...
Also, what's the latest firmware/OS version for the DVP right now?
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I've had absolutely no problems out of my DVP. 7.10.7720.68 is the latest OS version on mine. Yeah, the compass is a strange omission considering the hardware is there and was originally implemented but maps seems to orient just fine when I need directions. GPS is crazy fast.
Sounds good! Do you know the latest firmware version number as well?
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Sounds good! Do you know the latest firmware version number as well?
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latest DVP update is 7.10.8107 if the mobile is a factory unlocked version
if you have operator specific model like say T-Mobile / ATT then it would be 7.10.7720 or in some cases 7.10.7740
I too am considering a Dell Venue Pro. I am on Mobilicity in Toronto area and getting a decent Windows Phone that operates on AWS frequencies (1700/2100) is a challenge. T-Mobile phones are the only option but ordering a T-Mobile phone into Canada is a challenge too. It would be simply easier to drive to the NY State or Michigan and buy from a T-Mobile store and then unlock but I don't have 3-4 hours to burn. The Dell Venue Pro is easily available and is unlocked even ordering from Amazon.com.
If anyone has serious reservations please advise. Even better if someone is reading this and is on Mobilicity with this phone, I would appreciate any comments good or bad.
DVP !!
Hey,
M in India, and I got a DVP unlocked 16 gig, and I have no issues with it.
For me its the best looking phone out there
I dont care much about the specs(I mean if you compare the phones out there today, DVP lags behind), and the specs that a DVP has, is enough for me.
I have had only one stuck up, where I had to remove the battery to power it back on. That's it. Otherwise it has worked smoothly.
No other random reboot, no lag.
One thing, the camera is bad. You wont be able to take motion pictures. It will be blurry.
After Mango update, and making some changes in the settings, the still pics are gr8, but if you are trying to capture something that's moving, then m sorry, this aint the phone for you
I bought it in November 2011.
Current version:
OS version: 7.10.8107.79
My verdict: If you like classy, go for the DVP !!!
Excuse me for any typos or wrong grammar, English ain't my first language.
I picked it up yesterday, and so far I love it! There are a few things tripping me up, but nothing that i feel would push me over the age to abandon the platform like I did with Android. For one, it would be nice to be able to push enter to send an SMS using the keyboard, rather than having to touch the send icon on the screen. It would also be nice to be able to block certain numbers from calling.
Battery life does seem like an improvement over my old phone, though.
If you are purchasing new, in the US, I would question it. The phone is old hardware, at least 18 months old, I'd not more. Does not do 4g or wifi n. Simply put, why would you invest in an old device.
If you are buying used, or cheap with no contract, its worth it. But, buyer beware. A lot of used phones are showing up in a less than ideal condition, with damaged SD slots, or with the ability to reset missing. In these conditions they are virtually impossible to fix. Just be careful
That being said, these are good devices, well made and sound. I do not regret purchasing mine way back when. It was a most amazing Christmas present when received on December 21st, 2010.
Just to let you know I opted for a Nokia Lumia 710 !
Great deal here in Canada for 254.99 (from Rogers no contract) then $10 for unlock code. I know it's a completely different phone from DVP but figured I may as well get on with latest model phone for fairly cheap price. It will give me an idea if next (more expensive phone) should be the Nokia 900.
Thanks everyone for the mainly good comments about DVP.
We've discussed it for a bit here
Though if you're on rogers you actually have the choice of any of the lumias. (as rogers uses the same 3g bands as at&t and regardless prob has more choices)
TmoUSA users dont though, it's either the 710 or the VP or radar. (there's very little selection for AWS devices, that's almost literally every AWS capable wp7 device)
Yes... actually I am on Mobilicity which is same band as T-Mobile (1700/2100).
The Rogers Lumia 710 is a penta band phone so yes it works with Rogers 3 G bands and AT&T bands, and of course it works perfectly with Mobilicity ! (had to unlock it though)
Wonder if the T-Mobile version is penta band ? Also wonder why Rogers doesn't advertise this? I did some reading and found out it's penta band but if you read the specs from Rogers website it's only showing as quad-band. Quick trip to a Rogers store and reading the label shows it's penta band.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-4276.php
Perhaps they dont want you purchasing one and turning it to another carrier?
For a carrier sold one the supported bands arnt really relevent, as long as it supports their own band obviously.
PaullikesWINMO said:
The Rogers Lumia 710 is a penta band phone
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I doubt this, because I am not sure that the Qualcomm chipset actually supports pentaband UMTS.
It's more likely that it's quadband UMTS, which would still allow it cover all UMTS frequencies for both ATT and T-Mo. As in, maybe they left out 850 or 900.
Reports are the rogers one works on wind, which is AWS like tmoUSA
That would mean it's at very least: 850/1700/1900/2100, with the question as to if it supports 900.
As: 850/1900 is what rogers uses (like at&t)
and: 1700/2100 for aws (it's more work to have a 1700 device without 2100 then to leave it in)
From my understanding, it's merely what amps the manu decides to put in, and what they decide is mostly politics.
All htc devices are dual band unless they're forced to add more
Most samsung international devices are triband or higher. (though they dont generally use qualcomm chips)
All dell devices are triband or higher (with the exception of the EU Streak 5 as the AWS is uncommon)
I cant actually confirm it as I dont actually recall seeing a 5+ band phone using a qualcomm chip.
Worst case you can do APQxxxx + MDMxxxx and use an external modem that does support it, i believe the MDM9200 explicitly supports 5 bands + lte bands.
All devices with APQ8060 chips do this, as APQ chips are by definition chips without modems. There's a few phones that use this setup.
tl;dr the rogers varient should support at least 850/1700/1900/2100, since at least on at&t they use both 850 and 1900 (not unreasonable to assume rogers does the same)
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - For Canada
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-4276.php
TheManii said:
Reports are the rogers one works on wind, which is AWS like tmoUSA
That would mean it's at very least: 850/1700/1900/2100, with the question as to if it supports 900.
As: 850/1900 is what rogers uses (like at&t)
and: 1700/2100 for aws (it's more work to have a 1700 device without 2100 then to leave it in)
From my understanding, it's merely what amps the manu decides to put in, and what they decide is mostly politics.
All htc devices are dual band unless they're forced to add more
Most samsung international devices are triband or higher. (though they dont generally use qualcomm chips)
All dell devices are triband or higher (with the exception of the EU Streak 5 as the AWS is uncommon)
I cant actually confirm it as I dont actually recall seeing a 5+ band phone using a qualcomm chip.
Worst case you can do APQxxxx + MDMxxxx and use an external modem that does support it, i believe the MDM9200 explicitly supports 5 bands + lte bands.
All devices with APQ8060 chips do this, as APQ chips are by definition chips without modems. There's a few phones that use this setup.
tl;dr the rogers varient should support at least 850/1700/1900/2100, since at least on at&t they use both 850 and 1900 (not unreasonable to assume rogers does the same)
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Can confirm the ATT version works on Rogers bands. Sold my unlocked DVP (ATT) to a rogers users. He reported it worked fine on 3G.
I bought this phone on ebay as a replacement paid a good price.
I love the phone and that its already on android except even though he said its a T-Mobile phone its not.
I am stuck on edge when I have a 4g plan I should get 3g/Japan
Can I try a radio flash or something or am I screwed. The 2g is half decent but sorry on streaming radio.
I wish my seller was more specific grrrrrrrrr.
Hspa not japan
MrMike215 said:
I bought this phone on ebay as a replacement paid a good price.
I love the phone and that its already on android except even though he said its a T-Mobile phone its not.
I am stuck on edge when I have a 4g plan I should get 3g/Japan
Can I try a radio flash or something or am I screwed. The 2g is half decent but sorry on streaming radio.
I wish my seller was more specific grrrrrrrrr.
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What version HD2 is it ?
Telstra
TMOUS
EU
what current rom & radio does it have & what network/country you using it in ?
Sorry for that.. I thought it was a tmous phone but it maybe a eu.
has spl 2.08 on it which i think is a good thing. i dont have a clue how to check the radio since i didnt put android 2.3 on here he did.
its on nexus hd 2.3.7 on the nand. and im using it on tmobiles network in america.
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What version HD2 is it ?
Telstra
TMOUS
EU
what current rom & radio does it have & what network/country you using it in ?
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If t-mobile USA TMOUS it will have red & green coloured end/call keys (eu all white), it will have 1gb phone storage (eu 512mb), it will have 1.2mm extra length in rear cover moulding under buttons/digitizer glass, easiest way to see this is that TMOUS unit headset jack is smooth & flush to back housing, eu version headset jack has slight raised lump in back housing to incorporate it.
Eu & TMOUS hd2 have different bands for 3G, t-mobile usa was using 1700mhz & eu does not cover this band of 3G. have a word with T-Mobile & ask them confirm they still using 1700mhz & if you conclude your HD2 is an eu version then you have your answer ...
mister b would a logic board or antenna from a tmous usa hd2 change it to give 3g bands i hate to give up on it so easily. I discovered i have a eu hd2,
Mister B said:
If t-mobile USA TMOUS it will have red & green coloured end/call keys (eu all white), it will have 1gb phone storage (eu 512mb), it will have 1.2mm extra length in rear cover moulding under buttons/digitizer glass, easiest way to see this is that TMOUS unit headset jack is smooth & flush to back housing, eu version headset jack has slight raised lump in back housing to incorporate it.
Eu & TMOUS hd2 have different bands for 3G, t-mobile usa was using 1700mhz & eu does not cover this band of 3G. have a word with T-Mobile & ask them confirm they still using 1700mhz & if you conclude your HD2 is an eu version then you have your answer ...
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Mainboard of TMOUS does not fit in EU housing & you would want housing as has antenna on it.
Check with T-Mobile to confirm bands before writing it off as I thought they had been updating networks & had some 2100mhz support so worth confirming band status with them.
If indeed still restricted with 1700mhz you would be best selling & getting a tmous hd2 which should be easy in US ...