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HD2 3G Question

So I am looking at getting the HD2 to replace my 3Gs iPhone. I actually just tried a Nexus One and while it is a great device there are some items that need to be addressed, mainly in the fit and finish side, plus full out of box Exchange support.
SO, with that said. I noticed MobileCity has the HD2 for $719 and this feels like a good price for this device. It is however the import version and the guy on the phone said it will NOT work in any USA 3G system.
My question is this, with a ROM update will this device work just fine on the T-Mobile 3G system today?
Thanks!

Current HD2 will not work 3G US
Please note that the hardware of the HD2 is only 1900/2100 bands. For 3G in the USA you will need 1700Mhz for T-Mo or 850Mhz for AT&T.
No softwre will do it, if the radio band is not supported by hardware. Rumor says T-MO will have the US version of HD2 by the end of Q1/2010. my guess is April 2010. Note that if you are on AT&T even unlocking will not work for you even then.
Personally- I 'lost' my 3G by buying the current HD2 model. It worth it, as for SMS/emails the 3G is not needed, and I can have WiFi free hot spots ..

Bummer, but a glimmer of hope there....
So you saying you do not miss the 3G service at all? I would also be in wifi coverage at home and in the office, heck I could even just stay with AT&T for now. Would you be able to compare it to an iPhone 3GS?
I thought that the HD2 radios were the same for both the US and the Europe versions as they are quad-band radios and it was just a software update for the radios.

socialwill said:
I thought that the HD2 radios were the same for both the US and the Europe versions as they are quad-band radios and it was just a software update for the radios.
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There are now 4 distinct locality based versions of the HD2 with different radio bands for UMTS/3G
Quad band refers only to the GSM element, not UMTS

Well slap me and call me Susan, I did not know there were 4 units...which one is the device I should look at then even if it would not work on 3G?

socialwill said:
Well slap me and call me Susan, I did not know there were 4 units...which one is the device I should look at then even if it would not work on 3G?
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There you go Susan- details on PDAdb

Great! Thanks for the link.
Anyone able to say they are happy they went from a 3GS to the HD2? If so, why?

NeilM said:
There you go Susan- details on PDAdb
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No offense, but PDAdb is utter trash. 4 different units of HD2? The Tmo US having 900/2100? Another HD2 US having 850/1900? Tmo US is on a 1700/2100 UMTS so no, that link to Tmo US HD2 is completely wrong. When did the 850/1900 HD2 was even mentioned anywhere on the net? AFAIK, the closeless you'll come to AT&T 3G is the australian version which has 850/2100 UMTS. I'd be careful giving people that link with unsubstantiated information.

Thanks. What device do you have?

So now the question is would it be better to wait for the T-Mobile version or go with a current device?

So I'm assuming that you have T-Mobile? If you do, just wait for the Tmo version to be release around March. That's all you need to know if you want Tmo 3G.
In case you want AT&T 3G, there's no news of 850/1900 band other than the Australian version that i talked about above. The Australian version is coming out at the end of this month.

Damn..now the question is whether to wait for the Australian version or just get it tonight from eBay.

iPhone 3Ha vs. HD2
had both. there is no way the iPhone beats the HD2 in any category but battery. but you can have two batteries...
the iPhone is slower , bloated, had to be jail broken of you consider any customizing, and must have itunes and Apple support. not for me. was a bitter trial.
why EBay? see www.networkingrus.com . got 3 phones from them already.
bigE

BigE said:
had both. there is no way the iPhone beats the HD2 in any category but battery. but you can have two batteries...
the iPhone is slower , bloated, had to be jail broken of you consider any customizing, and must have itunes and Apple support. not for me. was a bitter trial.
why EBay? see www.networkingrus.com . got 3 phones from them already.
bigE
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What makes networkingrus.com so good? Just curious, but I like the site.

lude219 said:
So I'm assuming that you have T-Mobile? If you do, just wait for the Tmo version to be release around March. That's all you need to know if you want Tmo 3G.
In case you want AT&T 3G, there's no news of 850/1900 band other than the Australian version that i talked about above. The Australian version is coming out at the end of this month.
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No, actually I am on AT&T so it would be a break of contract to move to T-Mobile, however it would be a cheaper data plan over all..
What are most people using here? T-Mobile or AT&T for the HD2?

socialwill said:
No, actually I am on AT&T so it would be a break of contract to move to T-Mobile, however it would be a cheaper data plan over all..
What are most people using here? T-Mobile or AT&T for the HD2?
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I'm using AT&T without data plan.

I am on T-Mobile simply for the fact I save $50 dollars a month for the inconvenience of only having the Edge network.

omershahab said:
I'm using AT&T without data plan.
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How are you doing that?

FunMCRider said:
I am on T-Mobile simply for the fact I save $50 dollars a month for the inconvenience of only having the Edge network.
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How is the device on Edge only? Part of me wants to move now, however the other part of me says if I am going to get a device on T-Mobile, why not just wait for the 3G edge version from T-Mobile.

In the US it's going to be Edge only. I'm using it in Canada (Edge only again) but to be honest, haven't really missed much. I don't surf on it that much and I'd rather do it over Wifi anyways (home/office)

Aquiring US version of HD2 in UK?

I was looking at the best deal i could get on the HD2 when i heard about the US version, has there been any news on the 'upgraded' US version coming to anywhere else? Namely the UK? I dont want to sign up to a contract to then see the better version released
Or would an imported handset from the US work in the UK?

3g high speed data wouldn't work in the uk. and before you ask no, flashing a different rom or radio wouldn't fix that, the frequencies are built into the hardware.
for the sake of the extra rom in my opinion it isn't worth it and to be honest I suspect they'll be difficult to get as they will be tmobile usa locked.

synyster31 said:
I was looking at the best deal i could get on the HD2 when i heard about the US version, has there been any news on the 'upgraded' US version coming to anywhere else? Namely the UK? I dont want to sign up to a contract to then see the better version released
Or would an imported handset from the US work in the UK?
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samsamuel said:
3g high speed data wouldn't work in the uk. and before you ask no, flashing a different rom or radio wouldn't fix that, the frequencies are built into the hardware.
for the sake of the extra rom in my opinion it isn't worth it and to be honest I suspect they'll be difficult to get as they will be tmobile usa locked.
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I don't see why 3G data wouldn't work. The handset is listed as 1700 (AWS) / 2100.
If it only worked on the T-Mobile USA bands they would have just listed it as 1700 (AWS) [even though it still needs 2100 to work on T-Mobile USA].
Without 2100 the phone could only be used in a tiny handful of countries - well, not even a handful really, which would very much destroy some of the appeal of the phone.
If you really want one then Ebay will be your friend. However considering all the problems this phone has had I wouldn't buy one that I couldn't return or exchange, I really wouldn't.

Oh ok thanks guys, just a thought.
Think i'll plump for the Uk one then & see what happens
Thanks

I asked htc back then, even if thair response was obviously the "commercial" one, it was clear enough, "that version of hd2 has been customized especially for tmobile usa and will not be available elsewhere also because it won't work on other networks." or something along those lines.

HTC HD2 or T-Mobile HD2

hi every body please help me in this
my cousin live in USA and his network is T-Mobile and he asked them for me if he buy the T-Mobile HD2 will give him the unlock code and their answer was yes .. so he will renew his contract and will get one for $250 >> and of course me who will pay ... this the first option
the second option is I buy the normal HTC HD2 from Amazon for $717
so now which option I should choose
- I am living in Egypt
- my network is Vodafone
- need Arabic on my mobile (read and write )
- need to try the roms
- this is the first time I use the windows mobile
and all of this I will be able to do it with the normal HTC HD2
so what about the T-Mobile HD2 ??
- can I apply on it the Arabic without problems ?
- can I use the Themes , games and the applications of the normal HTC HD2 on it easy ?
.

hope some one help me

I'll do my best to help you.
The biggest problem I see with you purchasing the US T-Mobile HD2 is the 3g band. People are pretty sure that the US T-Mobile HD2 will work on the 2100 band (Asia/Middle East/Europe 3g band), but no one has actually tried it from what I can tell, so we don't know if it works. You will receive Edge coverage of course.
If the 3g works in your area or you don't care about 3g, then definitely get the US TMO HD2. The US version has more memory and is substantially cheaper than the unlocked HTC version. By the way, your cousin can also buy the phone for $450 without having to extend his contract for 2 years.
Keep in mind that in most cases T-Mobile will not give your cousin the unlock code till 40 days after purchase to avoid returns. You can also pay around $20 to get the code from an unlock site. If he buys the phone for $450 he can get the unlock code within a few days from T-Mobile.
Yes, you can put all the themes, games, and applications made for the HD2 on either the US HD2 or the unlocked HTC HD2.
Yes, you can put Arabic language, or any ROM made for the US HD2. The ROM has to specify the US version or the larger memory size. You CANNOT use any ROM on the US HD2 because some ROMs are for the unlocked HTC HD2 with the smaller memory and can damage the US version if used.
I hope all this makes sense and your questions are answered.

xeebot said:
I'll do my best to help you.
The biggest problem I see with you purchasing the US T-Mobile HD2 is the 3g band. People are pretty sure that the US T-Mobile HD2 will work on the 2100 band (Asia/Middle East/Europe 3g band), but no one has actually tried it from what I can tell, so we don't know if it works. You will receive Edge coverage of course.
If the 3g works in your area or you don't care about 3g, then definitely get the US TMO HD2. The US version has more memory and is substantially cheaper than the unlocked HTC version. By the way, your cousin can also buy the phone for $450 without having to extend his contract for 2 years.
Keep in mind that in most cases T-Mobile will not give your cousin the unlock code till 40 days after purchase to avoid returns. You can also pay around $20 to get the code from an unlock site. If he buys the phone for $450 he can get the unlock code within a few days from T-Mobile.
Yes, you can put all the themes, games, and applications made for the HD2 on either the US HD2 or the unlocked HTC HD2.
Yes, you can put Arabic language, or any ROM made for the US HD2. The ROM has to specify the US version or the larger memory size. You CANNOT use any ROM on the US HD2 because some ROMs are for the unlocked HTC HD2 with the smaller memory and can damage the US version if used.
I hope all this makes sense and your questions are answered.
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really thank you for all what did you advise me
but I am little bit afraid now from T-Mobile HD2 :/

zeemoo said:
really thank you for all what did you advise me
but I am little bit afraid now from T-Mobile HD2 :/
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You're welcome.
You can follow the thread below to see if anyone tries it in Europe or Asia and we'll have the answer to the 3g working outside the US.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658567
As for flashing the ROM, don't be worried, a lot of the ROMs out there will work on the US HD2. The phone has been a pretty hot seller here, so a lot of people will be working on the US version and more ROMs and mods will be released for sure.

Don't buy it. Phone pretty. Windows killing it

You need both Upload and download frequencies in the mobile matching your provider to get 3G.
2100 is the download freq, which is common to both Americas and EU, but US had 1900/850/1700 for upload and EU uses 900.
You have to make sure both the freq are supported by the phone. At the looks of it I'm pretty sure the TMOUS HD2 will not have 3G for you in Egypt.
Everything else you asked for can be done in both phones.
xeebot said:
I'll do my best to help you.
The biggest problem I see with you purchasing the US T-Mobile HD2 is the 3g band. People are pretty sure that the US T-Mobile HD2 will work on the 2100 band (Asia/Middle East/Europe 3g band), but no one has actually tried it from what I can tell, so we don't know if it works. You will receive Edge coverage of course.
If the 3g works in your area or you don't care about 3g, then definitely get the US TMO HD2. The US version has more memory and is substantially cheaper than the unlocked HTC version. By the way, your cousin can also buy the phone for $450 without having to extend his contract for 2 years.
Keep in mind that in most cases T-Mobile will not give your cousin the unlock code till 40 days after purchase to avoid returns. You can also pay around $20 to get the code from an unlock site. If he buys the phone for $450 he can get the unlock code within a few days from T-Mobile.
Yes, you can put all the themes, games, and applications made for the HD2 on either the US HD2 or the unlocked HTC HD2.
Yes, you can put Arabic language, or any ROM made for the US HD2. The ROM has to specify the US version or the larger memory size. You CANNOT use any ROM on the US HD2 because some ROMs are for the unlocked HTC HD2 with the smaller memory and can damage the US version if used.
I hope all this makes sense and your questions are answered.
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I found this site:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
Egypt 900 1800 3G 2100
HTC HD2
HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 2100 - American version
and it works great in Egypt
T-Mobile HD2
HSDPA 1700 / 2100
and I do not know the different and this will not work in Egypt ???
I can call My Network to ask them but I don't know what is the question ?
You have to make sure both the freq are supported by the phone. At the looks of it I'm pretty sure the TMOUS HD2 will not have 3G for you in Egypt
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bad news .. but why ?? can you explain to me please
As for flashing the ROM, don't be worried, a lot of the ROMs out there will work on the US HD2. The phone has been a pretty hot seller here, so a lot of people will be working on the US version and more ROMs and mods will be released for sure.
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that is I saw it rell every day I s some thing new here for T-Mobile HD2
waiting yous replies
thank you all

THe question here is, although T Mo us use umts 850 and 2100 for their 3g, one up one down, i also seem to remember when reading up on umts/hsdpa/blahblah that some networks use the same band for up and down. If that were so, is the hd2 capable of holding a two way connection on one band? ie 2100?
(I may be completely mistaken, of course )

samsamuel said:
THe question here is, although T Mo us use umts 850 and 2100 for their 3g, one up one down, i also seem to remember when reading up on umts/hsdpa/blahblah that some networks use the same band for up and down. If that were so, is the hd2 capable of holding a two way connection on one band? ie 2100?
(I may be completely mistaken, of course )
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That's exactly my thinking too. Europe and Asia use 2100 up and down for 3g data, and they use 900 for Edge and voice. The only question with the US HD2 is if the 2100 band supports up and down or only down. Some specs for the US HD2 show 1700/2100 and also 2100 by itself, which makes some of us believe it will handle Euro/Asia 3g. We won't know for sure till someone unlocks a unit and drops a 3g sim in Asia or Europe and reports back.
Let's keep our fingers crossed.

T-Mobile USA, FTW!!!
In my opinion, "de-branded" hardware is always superior, but for once... not in this case.

zeemoo said:
hi every body please help me in this
my cousin live in USA and his network is T-Mobile and he asked them for me if he buy the T-Mobile HD2 will give him the unlock code and their answer was yes .. so he will renew his contract and will get one for $250 >> and of course me who will pay ... this the first option
the second option is I buy the normal HTC HD2 from Amazon for $717
so now which option I should choose
- I am living in Egypt
- my network is Vodafone
- need Arabic on my mobile (read and write )
- need to try the roms
- this is the first time I use the windows mobile
and all of this I will be able to do it with the normal HTC HD2
so what about the T-Mobile HD2 ??
- can I apply on it the Arabic without problems ?
- can I use the Themes , games and the applications of the normal HTC HD2 on it easy ?
.
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let your cousine buy you nexus one or htc desire wm6.5 is dead

I already bought one!
Hey Everyone
I'm from Egypt. I already bought a t-mobile htc hd2 (TM), after doing a hell of a survey about the differences between it and the international. They r different in size, slight taller in TM and ofcourse branded.
There r red and green keys(end and answer) instead of the white in the international.
Band differences, but i searched for the unlocked TM, ppl confirm 3g working for carrier networks outside the US(philippines, germany, sweden, UAE, brazil)!!! So i guess it will work in Egypt since the band is 2100, i hope it's for both ways up and downloads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6735562
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658567
Bigger ROM (1)
16gb microSD included in the box
The TM is alot cheaper even if it's sold already unlocked, i got it worth 470 $ unlocked from ebay but will come to me through a friend.
I will try my vodafone sim and see how it works and will give feedback.
I hope the 3g works as i guessed!!

Finally!!!
Wooooooooooooohhhhhhoooooooooooo!!!
Just got the phone, and the 3g network is working perfectly like a charm!!!
Thank God!!
Awesome phone!!! I love hTC!!
So that makes Africa included with the others and especially Egypt for the TMOUS working for 3g network outside the US!!
Go ahead HD2 lovers BUY........ and ENJOY!!!

want to buy a HD2.Help!!

I know that there are two version for HD2:T version and htc version.The T version's RAM and ROM is larger than the htc's.But I wonder why the T version's price is cheaper than the htc's.And some people told me that the T version is unstable and can't install some ROM.(By the way,I'm from China.If I buy the HD2,I need brushing machine.)
I'm hesitated for a long time:which version should I buy?
So,what's your guys' opinion?

The t-mobile version is cheaper because t-mobile lowers the price for starting a 2 year service contract. The import (I'm in the US) version is purchased without a contract and is therefore unsubsidized. From what I've gathered the two variations are nearly identical in performance, build quality etc.

Thanks!This is my first oversea thread and I'm so glad that you give me a reply!

I thought that the T-Mobile HD2 was the one sold in the US and the other HD2 is the one sold in the rest of the world. Correct me if I'm wrong but they are pretty much the same except slight size and memory changes.

yeoldgreat1 said:
I thought that the T-Mobile HD2 was the one sold in the US and the other HD2 is the one sold in the rest of the world. Correct me if I'm wrong but they are pretty much the same except slight size and memory changes.
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T-Mobile is just the branding nothing more nothing less maybe the SD card is diff but I have the T-Mobile UK version there no different then any other HD2

rexzooly said:
T-Mobile is just the branding nothing more nothing less maybe the SD card is diff but I have the T-Mobile UK version there no different then any other HD2
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The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.

rp-x1 said:
The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
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Well FFFFFFFFF to them lol

rp-x1 said:
The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
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Actually that is not entirely accurate , the TMOUS has a different radio, as do some of the EU models , for instance if you want to use one on AT&T 3G in the states, you need the telstra model from OZ, as it supports the WCDMA 850 band , the US(TMO) version only supports 1700/2100 WCDMA for 3G.
Most all will work on all Providers , using standard GSM/EDGE freqs but not on 3G.
EDIT:
It seems though AT&T is cracking down on NON-AT&T devices though ....

watcher64 said:
Actually that is not entirely accurate , the TMOUS has a different radio, as do some of the EU models , for instance if you want to use one on AT&T 3G in the states, you need the telstra model from OZ, as it supports the WCDMA 850 band , the US(TMO) version only supports 1700/2100 WCDMA for 3G.
Most all will work on all Providers , using standard GSM/EDGE freqs but not on 3G.
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Thanks for the details maybe I should get my hands on a US one for a hands on check

[Q] HTC HD2 T-Mobile US - are they all the same?

I own HTC HD2 from Europe. It has only 512Mb of flashable memory. I want to buy a T-Mobile HD2 from ebay. But when I was reading descriptions, some phone's ids were HTC Touch Pro. And I have seen a whole few of those at ebay. Does it mean that the sellers didn't know better, or that under the name HD2 could be a couple of family lines? Also, some description said that the camera was 3mp.
So, my worry is that trying to buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1Gb internal memory, I might end up with something different than the original T-Mobile HTC HD2.
Or maybe I am just dealing with sellers who don't know much about phones, and I don't need to worry?

elgar said:
I own HTC HD2 from Europe. It has only 512Mb of flashable memory. I want to buy a T-Mobile HD2 from ebay. But when I was reading descriptions, some phone's ids were HTC Touch Pro. And I have seen a whole few of those at ebay. Does it mean that the sellers didn't know better, or that under the name HD2 could be a couple of family lines? Also, some description said that the camera was 3mp.
So, my worry is that trying to buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1Gb internal memory, I might end up with something different than the original T-Mobile HTC HD2.
Or maybe I am just dealing with sellers who don't know much about phones, and I don't need to worry?
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Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)

Thank you very much!

hakuchi18v said:
Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
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plus one .

hakuchi18v said:
Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
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Plus one also

I am in Canada, on the Bell network. I know there are some differences between US and Canada because of different networks. Which model would I look for, to get an unlocked HD2? Thanks.

also make sure you're not getting a Chinese knock off.

robearg said:
I am in Canada, on the Bell network. I know there are some differences between US and Canada because of different networks. Which model would I look for, to get an unlocked HD2? Thanks.
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I believe you'd be better off with the telstra (Aussie network) version...
This would allow you to use 3g on Rogers... but I'm not sure about bell. They may use different bands.
I'm not 100% on the details but do a search on telstra hd2 Canada etc etc and you'll get some more reliable info...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......

It'll work on the Bell network as well, as Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same bands ( though Bell/Telus and Rogers have different networks).
Just make sure you're getting the Telstra 9193 model.