With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/
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With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/
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First off, replace "we" with "I". Second, SGS4 uses an unknown sensor with the same megapixel count as the Sony Exmor sensor, but then megapixels mean nothing anyway. Also, while there is a big discrepancy in file size, there is a not very big discrepancy in photo quality while zoomed in (compare photos at http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_sony_xperia_z-review-915p8.php) if you look at image sharpness and ignore colour saturation and that sort of things. I don't see why the XZ photo file sizes should then be doubled just because the SGS4 has larger photo sizes.
compression isn't bad, in my opinion
its the same sensor.check anadtech s4 dissasmbly.by the way they are using same sensor with different module.i dont have a Z or S4 to talk about quality though
The images quality will much much more better if Sony reduce the compression, or at least let user decide jpeg quality.
I think the issue isn't about compression but denoise algorythms.
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OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
dubist said:
OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
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Let's hope that there really is an improvement on the camera!
I remember when I bought my Xperia S, the first fw the camera was bad enough, but the latest updates have improved a lot!
Please vote in my research, so I can present the results to Sony!
What research??
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What research??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232999
Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312
I don't know if this related, but Sony recently applied heavy processing and compression to picture using there DSLR.
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Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312
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yeah i write them an Email that they should Post something and you have done that :victory:
Here the Email i wrote to Xperiablog
Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?
Bromsoket said:
Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?
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No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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pandaball said:
No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...
Bromsoket said:
Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...
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Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)
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Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)
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oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare
Bromsoket said:
oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare
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With pleasure. (both are done on auto/superior auto respectively)
Xperia Arc: ~2.5MB, super long exposure times and thus overexposed images
Xperia V: ~2MB, slightly oversaturated blues
No XS though
But seriously, XZ is pretty darn good for the file size already.
Related
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/93c9ada2ad4d20f983f3269bdb10c7c9.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/96d317dc32e75853bb8d9418736807de.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/15c6e2c354905a9300da277dc6326ec5.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/fa4fb57af7c61c23e5831db6ac39f6b7.jpg
What do you think?
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http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/93c9a...9bdb10c7c9.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/96d31...18736807de.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/fa4fb57af7c61c23e5831db6ac39f6b7.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/15c6e...7dc6326ec5.jpg
What do you think?
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I think your links don't work.
Yes... File not Found is all I get too.
Beards said:
Yes... File not Found is all I get too.
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Link update
faby71 said:
Link update
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No... Still showing file not found.
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No... Still showing file not found.
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Link 1° post work!!!
faby71 said:
Link 1° post work!!!
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Where did you bought it?
Wow, very nice!
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Where did you bought it?
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swiss
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swiss
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Ah, so bad! xD
Soooo much noise and artifact in those shots, resolved detail not very good either.
That said, looks like HTCs best camera ever (apart from perhaps the Mozart with its Xenon Flash, but I haven't seen many examples from that handset yet).
I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.
i agree buying a phone based on its camera is silly, the only time i have ever used my phone camera was when i got a parking ticket so i took photos of the signage and my car wrote a letter to the council and got off without having to pay
if i know im going to take photos i just take my DSLR
NZtechfreak said:
Soooo much noise and artifact in those shots, resolved detail not very good either.
That said, looks like HTCs best camera ever (apart from perhaps the Mozart with its Xenon Flash, but I haven't seen many examples from that handset yet).
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Yes, I agree.
However, what I am finding is the DHD does not leave much EXIF data.
Below is what is missing when shown in PhotoMe which is shown on the SGS:-
Under Overview
Aperture
Exposure Time
Program Mode
Flash Mode
Metering Mode
White Balance
Under Image
Orientation of Image
Software Firmware
Under Thumbnail view
Nothing. There's no section!
Under Camera
Exposure Time
F-Stop
Exposure Program
Shutter Speed
Aperture
Brightness
Exposure Bias
Maximum Lens Aperture
Metering Mode
Light Source
Flash Details
Manufacturer Notes
Sensing Method
Scene Type
Exposure Mode
White Balance
Digital Zoom Ratio
Focal Length in 35mm Film
Scene Capture Type
Contrast
Saturation
Sharpness
eozen81 said:
I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.
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Nice
More photos..............
Any chance in taking an evening shot (sunset/sunrise) without flash.
Also if possible another two low light shots with and without flash (basically the same shot for comparison on how well the camera handles low lighting with & without a flash).
Cheers.
Ouch those shots are really poor in terms of quality, noise, too strong noisereduction, chromatic abberation and hell everything.
I'm afraid Nokia N8 wins this round.
/ Magnus
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Pepsi anyone!??
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eozen81 said:
I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.
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You don't need to be obsessed with photo quality to demand more from your mobile phone camera than the Desire HD is offering though. For many of us the camera is quite an important consideration because day to day photography with our phones is part of our regular use (most of us don't carry a DSLR all the time, eh?). Its nice to have shots that are 'good enough' for that kind of casual photography, and many other non-HTC phones offer that.
I won't, and haven't ever, based a decision to buy a phone solely on the camera, but certainly its a consideration, more important for some of us than others (but you can't dictate to others how they come to a decision to get a phone or not).
I went to a Sony Mobile "Insider on Tour" event tonight and got the chance to have a look at the S, P, and U.. I also took 2 photo's one with my current arc, and one with the S.. I've stuck them together, side by side and here's the result.. The camera on the S is incredible.
[EDIT : FYI - I took both pictures with default settings.. and the S photo was taken from standby to test the quick shot feature.. it took the photo in under 2 seconds.. easily. The 2 photo's were cropped and I used the left hand side of each to make this image, no post processing on the image quality at all.. just cropped and added the labels.]
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Interesting. Look at the seat numbers, and the seats at the back... The Arc resolves them, the S does not.
The S may have better shadow noise, but it looks like the Arc has better detail. Of course, for the S, you did not have that bright spotlight in the frame to throw off metering either
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Of course, for the S, you did not have that bright spotlight in the frame to throw off metering either
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I think he cropped that out of the S' photo.
Not a fair comparison IMO. Would be a much better one without those light sources.
Anyways, it does seem the picture taken by arc to have more resolved detail.
Haha, Arc seems better!
Could you post some more pics, please?
Snapdragon S3 keeps me away from the new devices, but the camera might change that.
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I did crop the two photos...just took the left side of each.
The handling of the light sources was what made it such a good comparison..
I only had it in my hand for 2 minutes so only managed to take that photo and Bluetooth it to my arc..
The s handled amazingly well.. And the camera really was very impressive..
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I have unfortunately read a review for the Xperia s that states the camera as having the same jpeg compression as the arc s, ray and neo. I truly hope this isn't the case as I was extremely let down but the quality from the arc s camera.
I believe this review might have been posted on Engadget today?
If anyone has some proper hands on experience with some outdoors shots compared to arc s, iPhone 4s and sgs2, please post your findings on which has the better detail and quality, megapixels withstanding.
Flo95 said:
Could you post some more pics, please?
Snapdragon S3 keeps me away from the new devices, but the camera might change that.
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What's wrong with that? It's a decent chipset.
harlz said:
I have unfortunately read a review for the Xperia s that states the camera as having the same jpeg compression as the arc s, ray and neo. I truly hope this isn't the case as I was extremely let down but the quality from the arc s camera.
I believe this review might have been posted on Engadget today?
If anyone has some proper hands on experience with some outdoors shots compared to arc s, iPhone 4s and sgs2, please post your findings on which has the better detail and quality, megapixels withstanding.
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There are some photos posted in xperia s forum. One user posted there a link for full size images captured by the device. Haven't checked in 100% magnification though.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530157
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What's wrong with that? It's a decent chipset.
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New flagship devices use the S4 (like HTC One X). It's as fast as the Tegra 3. Also the rumoured Hayabusa/Mint from Sony (autumn flagship) will have the S4.
sdk16420 said:
New flagship devices use the S4 (like HTC One X). It's as fast as the Tegra 3. Also the rumoured Hayabusa/Mint from Sony (autumn flagship) will have the S4.
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Maybe because of time constraints to test S4 platform for Q1 release? Xperia S is now on sale. HTC S4 devices will come this Q2.
Waiting for an S4 device with Sony branding!
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What's wrong with that? It's a decent chipset.
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S4 chipset is as fast as Tegra 3, so the S3 chipset is slow in comparison.
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The quality doesn't look much different. Maybe a bit, but I think the arc is still pretty decent.
Are there any more comparisons?
N8 camera owns arc& xperia s cameras - sad, but true . N8>X10>XS>arc
Due to some findings of a Member in a German Forum.
The difference is clearly noticable
Shot in normal Mode
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=_normalsbyfg.jpg
Shot with Burst Mode
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=burstjgxhj.jpg
Probably one of the Devs can work out how to get the same image quality into normal Photo Shots
All credits go to stream1 @android-hilfe.de
Burst mode shot with sharper details.
zaynal said:
Burst mode shot with sharper details.
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to me (as a photographer, not a modder/hacker) it looks like they do no noise reduction. Which makes sense because this takes processing time (even with DSLR's). so probably thats why. I'd love to be able to turn off the dreaded noise reduction/sharpening (actually all post processing) and do it afterwards in photoshop/lightroom if i care.
This difference is ridiculous. I just tested it out myself...bad Sony.
Lucky it shows the sensor has potential though!
burst on:
http://i.imgur.com/a4ptsKd.jpg
burst off:
http://i.imgur.com/SWUhAKw.jpg
Very strange why this happen!
Why the hell Sony process their image so bad and so much?
BTW which burst mode do you use? Hi, Lo or Mid? Mid has better resolution
Similar results. Why is BURST so much better? What's up with that?
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Similar results. Why is BURST so much better? What's up with that?
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less image processing for burst mode! as the user said above ....no denoise.
So we have the choice between Noisy or Blurred pictures! Hooray!
JPWOA said:
Why the hell Sony process their image so bad and so much?
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That is really good question! Maybe the sun is different in Japan, or they calibrated the sensor on their secret Moonbase! jk...
Either they created the noise reduction in a labor only with artificial light, or they ported the noise reduction from previous sensors to the Exmor-RS sensor (Xperia Z is the first phone to use the new sensor, right?)
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BTW which burst mode do you use? Hi, Lo or Mid? Mid has better resolution
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Can't blame you! I can choose between:
Hi: 1280x720
Mid: 3920x2204
Lo: 1920x1080
WTF sony ?
Oh..... here one more in Indors, Light is on but it's still kinda Dark!
The anti noise filter does kinda good in bad lit rooms!
Burst:
http://i.imgur.com/FTRcvPF.jpg
iAuto:
http://i.imgur.com/bo04nVV.jpg
One more with Light off, Smartphone light on!
Burst:
http://i.imgur.com/FTZnuqf.jpg
iAuto:
http://i.imgur.com/ieqYm5X.jpg
Modify
So.. the question now is... is there any devs that can turn this function of?
Maby make a new apk for camera?
I dare you..
Amazing. Hopefully Sony take a look and update the normal mode to look like this.
Contact Sony
Go to your local Sony site (uk,usa etc) find the contact section and choose phone and type in the issue, lets see if we can get Sony to fix this
i used burst mid.
This is an awesome find. Finally everyone will see that there is in fact something wrong with the software and that it needs to be fixed.
SONY ARE YOU READING THIS???
It would be amazing if someone could do a comparison between these burst mode photos and other popular phones like the iPhone 5, GS3, Lumia 920 or Pureview 808. Considering how much sharper and better things look overall in burst mode, I'm very curious how this now stacks up against the competition.
Here are some pictures from burst mode, you can check the complete album with more high resolution pics here: Burst album
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Here some more comparission shot in bright Daylight!
Burst:
http://i.imgur.com/bPC5Lzi.jpg
iAutomatic:
http://i.imgur.com/f3YryS2.jpg
Burst2:
http://i.imgur.com/8amHz4v.jpg
iAutomatic2:
http://i.imgur.com/ZcAIouy.jpg
Thats horrible!
BTW: There is not even a Support Page for the Z yet...
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/support/phones/
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/support/contact-us/country/en_US/
Chose Location, set topic to Phones (E-Mail support) and write
Haldi4803 said:
BTW: There is not even a Support Page for the Z yet...
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/support/phones/
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/support/contact-us/country/en_US/
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Because it's not on sale in the US!
You can find it here: http://talk.sonymobile.com/community/support/xperia_z_zl
For me personally i think that the camera is not to good. I have tried a variety of settings but my pictures look washed out with an opaque appearance. I have read similar reviews to this and can only hope that an update will rectify said issues.
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Here are some pictures from burst mode, you can check the complete album with more high resolution pics here: Burst album
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Are you using the mid settings here mate?
Seriously we need to be louder to point sony their mistake ..damn hillarious!
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lyndonguti said:
Are you using the mid settings here mate?
Seriously we need to be louder to point sony their mistake ..damn hillarious!
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yes, mid setting
Today I tested canera performance on my Z3 and my brother's Moto G (2014). The result scared me a little. I hope it's just me who thought the moto G ones were more vivid... what do u guys think?
Moto G:
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Z3:
Z3 captures the colors as they are in real life. Some would say that's good, but I'd rather get more vivid images instead ?
That's why you edit pictures afterwise.
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That's why you edit pictures afterwise.
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So a high-end $600 phone needs pictures edited to make it equal to a low budget phone?
Well what did the actual scene look like????
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Well what did the actual scene look like????
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It looked more like the z3's pics. The Moto saturation is a little high.
Yes, sadly.
Try the Camera FV-5 apk. Not that any particular app makes the pictures look better but it gives you a DSLR complete control feel to it. Also the Aviary apk (free) has some nice simple touch ups for pictures.
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Whats wrong with the pics?
The Moto pictures look as said saturated blurred and low in quality.
The camera of the Z3 is the best one I ever had. Even in low light enviroment it makes awesome pics.
Compare some pics in the evening when u are watching tv with lights out and be happy to have a phone with such an awesome cam.
The Cam and the Display are the 2 things that keeps me away from installing CM.
If u want more colors play a bit around with the special effects f.e. hdr.
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So, I wasn't there but this is what I interpret the pictures as.
The Moto G pics aren't really over-saturated, they just lack dynamic range (difference between dark vs light areas). They essentially tuned the sensor so that if this sort of thing happens, it chooses the brighter side of the scene. The leaves and darker areas can't be recorded as dark as they actually were, so it chooses to make the overall picture just brighter. Sony does a much better job of capturing the light areas such as the concrete and also the darker shades and leaves. The other difference is white balance, the Sony chose something a little cooler, and the Moto warmer. Without being there, tough to say which is more accurate but from the pics I'd say the Sony got it right.
Easy fix, force the Sony to overexpose or use something like pixlr to boost exposure.
Second picture is much of the same, the thing that jumps out is the red colors. In the moto it looks orange, in the Z it looks much more red. Again, if I had to guess the Z got it right.
Now, this is all great with plants, rocks, and garden hoses, but what happens when you take a picture of people? Those Moto pics are going to look off, like people's faces look like cake and lack the proper color it needs.
Z3 is easily better if you know how to use a camera
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Z3 is easily better if you know how to use a camera
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Thats kind of the while point of "point and shoot". I should be fiddling with settings when im trying to capture that moment. Superior auto setting is an absolute garbage
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Xposed module changes superior auto to 20.7 mp makes a big difference
Seriously what is wrong with you guys.
Have you ever used an high quality cam?
In every shop there are phones where you can test them.
There are more tests in the net as you could ever read in your lifetime.
So if you don't like it don't buy it.
Should sound familiar as an iPhone user xD
Have just done a few shots but I'm sure you can save your favorite settings.
If this is too mich work to do I would suggest to sell your Z3 and buy an Moto or similar and stop annoying us.
I personally think the z3 camera is one of the best out there not hard to use manual mode
Sorry. I should've quoted the person who said that that he prefeerd the more vibrant colors over the more accurate. I meant that if you want it more vibrant you should edit it so and let the original photo be correct.
I use 8MP on manual it does well, it's just "Superior Auto" that sucks.
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So a high-end $600 phone needs pictures edited to make it equal to a low budget phone?
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Sorry. I should've quoted the person who said that that he prefeerd the more vibrant colors over the more accurate. I meant that if you want it more vibrant you should edit it so and let the original photo be correct.
I think it isa good also ti add that Feature if the client wants a vibrant they should add it.
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Did you try using HDR?
Read the Edit from 10.04.16 below, before posting "funny" comments...
Hey guys, could it be possible that the mighty 23mp of our z5 is in reality only 8mp upsampled to 23mp? No third-party app shows the full resolution like on older sensors of Xperia z1-z4.. And Sony won't give the "super" image processing algorithm to the Sony "open" device project!? Maybe the Devs from Sony just don't know how to hide the 8mp to 23mp techniques.. So they don't give it free to other Developers to make the poor z5 camera better? The details when zooming by 23mp shots are so washed out and muddy, I can't believe it's actually 23mp.. I guess because of that, Sony is hiding something.. Don't they? Why else they are acting so strange?
10.04.16 Edit:
okay, maybe it has a 25mp sensor, but Xeon explained it very good here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66263647
If they weren't 23MP sensors, someone would've found that out a while ago and taken SONY to court for false advertising. I doubt SONY would be that dumb. And the details might look fine on a normal day, as long as you don't zoom in too far. The maximum resolution is 5520 x 4140 which is really, really big. Even the Galaxy S6 with a 16MP camera only goes up to 3984 x 2988 on a 4:3 ratio.
Edit: Here's a photo with of my dog. Then a photo of it zoomed in on his noise. Look's pretty detailed to me.
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actually there is a third-party app called "CyanogenOS Camera Next" which recognize the 22.9MP sensor!
I haven't tried capturing with 22.9MP option, but it's available in Camera Next!
Ah okay, Interesting statements. Maybe it's just the poor software from Sony ?Thanks guys
It's definitely poor software from Sony, the camera is good but has soo much more potential
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Thechiller86 said:
Ah okay, Interesting statements. Maybe it's just the poor software from Sony ?Thanks guys
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I've read that most third-party apps identify Z5 camera as only 8Mp due to a buggy system file which has a wrong identifier value of this CMOS. It seems Camera Next is a bit smarter, as mentioned below.
Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk
ciprianmp said:
I've read that most third-party apps identify Z5 camera as only 8Mp due to a buggy system file which has a wrong identifier value of this CMOS. It seems Camera Next is a bit smarter, as mentioned below.
Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk
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Jep, hope Sony is doing something about it soon.. But I think they don't care very much.. Because the new Xperia x is more important than device's ho hade already sold..? sad kapitalism
ciprianmp said:
I've read that most third-party apps identify Z5 camera as only 8Mp due to a buggy system file which has a wrong identifier value of this CMOS. It seems Camera Next is a bit smarter, as mentioned below.
Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk
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I think that is because Sony need to make those other apps think it is higher res as well .
I still believe Sony are software interpolating the photo's to 23MP, because the results just lack too much detail.
To be honest, I as well as many others I am sure would just prefer 12MP done right
danw_oz said:
I think that is because Sony need to make those other apps think it is higher res as well .
I still believe Sony are software interpolating the photo's to 23MP, because the results just lack too much detail.
To be honest, I as well as many others I am sure would just prefer 12MP done right
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Likewise
Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk
danw_oz said:
I think that is because Sony need to make those other apps think it is higher res as well .
I still believe Sony are software interpolating the photo's to 23MP, because the results just lack too much detail.
To be honest, I as well as many others I am sure would just prefer 12MP done right
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+1
That's why we are not getting raw support because it will show that the real sensor is 8mp lol
Daniel_GB said:
actually there is a third-party app called "CyanogenOS Camera Next" which recognize the 22.9MP sensor!
I haven't tried capturing with 22.9MP option, but it's available in Camera Next!
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i just tested that app it works pretty well although the burst mode is ultra slow but the quality seems clear like the ones shown in the ads
I'm also pretty sure that the 23 mp thing is just a kind of trick.... SONY won't let you know anything about the camera. If you open AIDA64 under devices it can't even detect the deviceID or sensor type.
I can't understand how 8MP resolution pics look better than 23MP
Actually it is a 25MP sensor or to be more precise 24.77MP.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sonys_new_z...se_a_custom_25mp_camera_sensor-blog-13806.php
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Actually it is a 25MP sensor or to be more precise 24.77MP.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sonys_new_z...se_a_custom_25mp_camera_sensor-blog-13806.php
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Sony pay for gsmarena to tell this fake info and if they pay for me i swear that the sensor will be 40mp lol
Just look at this app ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3322562
It is upsampling more resolution of actually all cameras ?
Thechiller86 said:
Just look at this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3322562
It is upsampling more resolution of actually all cameras
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Kinda nice idea but only usable in completly static scenes and with a tripod. But seems interesting. Will check it out!
gm007 said:
Sony pay for gsmarena to tell this fake info and if they pay for me i swear that the sensor will be 40mp lol
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heading to that direction only means everything in this world is fake lol
Daniel_GB said:
heading to that direction only means everything in this world is fake lol
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Maybe... As long it brings money, everything they do seems okay?
What sort of confirms that the sensor is not the full MP rating as suggested is that all manufacturers that are using the same sensor don't have the same resolution
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What sort of confirms that the sensor is not the full MP rating as suggested is that all manufacturers that are using the same sensor don't have the same resolution
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Well if they want to limit and resort to fixed pixel binning. They have native 25MP for the IMX300 sensor.