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Camera / Photo examples?

Can any of you lucky Galaxy S owners provide real life examples of the camera capabilities please? Ideally some shots in different lighting conditions.
Thanks.

This would be good to see as i have only seen videos​

MacaronyMax said:
This would be good to see as i have only seen videos​
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picture samples
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mobilegear/sets/72157624154501863/
reviews with camera samples and 720p videos:
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=9422
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=9390

Are those real i9000 photos?
The colors look great, much better then the examples from the gsmarena.com review.

According to the websites, yes.

Thanks for the links Archius.
Seems that the camera is ok for snaps (I have been spoiled by the Carl Zeiss optics of the Nokia N Series) but then I guess the camera is not what you would buy this phone for!

Here are two of my photos I've taken.
Normal light conditions
i47.tinypic.com/2qd3kns.jpg
Darker conditions (yeah I know my room is a mess)
i50.tinypic.com/ak7fbr.jpg

kenny326 said:
Here are two of my photos I've taken.
Normal light conditions
i47.tinypic.com/2qd3kns.jpg
Darker conditions (yeah I know my room is a mess)
i50.tinypic.com/ak7fbr.jpg
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What camera settings did you use?

Great pictures, much better then my HD2 HD2 performs awful in the darkness - overexposes every picture with the leds. So I won't miss the led except for flashlight purposes

at least we can see under low light xD
the normal light picture is not bad, much better than HTC's quality and everything seems clear enough for a phone cam.
but it doesn't capture the sunlight that well, it makes a "whitish" effect in the picture lol not sure how to describe. but it ruins the real colors.

holy crap. in decent lighting those stills looks pretty darn good for a phone.
and the video is REALLY impressive for a phone.
it appears that it doesnt do well in low light, but still... im impressed.

latraviata said:
What camera settings did you use?
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Default camera settings when it came out of the box (superfine etc).
Edit: This is what it looks like with Night Mode.
i47.tinypic.com/2yjrf4n.jpg

kenny326 said:
Default camera settings when it came out of the box (superfine etc).
Edit: This is what it looks like with Night Mode.
i47.tinypic.com/2yjrf4n.jpg
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Thank you so much!
Hmm, if the camera is similar to that on my Omnia I then I’d recommend manually setting the ISO rather than leaving it on auto. Also, I’d be curious if manually focusing on a specific object would perhaps result in a sharper low light photo (my Omnia has problems auto focusing in low light/low contrast situations).

If you want me to take some specific shots I can try. I've been messing around with the settings i.e macro, iso etc.

I took this today on the Galaxy S, I didnt check the settings, its still all on default. It was taken freestanding so could probably be sharper, but was pretty much just point and shoot. Its not edited apart from the 50% reduction to make it viewable on here. Colours are as they were captured, and not bad for a camera phone.
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That's enough for me

Mistwalker said:
That's enough for me
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same here !!
very nice sky also, and nice colors compared to other phones.

video shots @ 720p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW7bQC3J_Pg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ZrSkXGHIU

zenkinz said:
video shots @ 720p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW7bQC3J_Pg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ZrSkXGHIU
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Those look great and the dog is very cute! Thanks for posting!

Thanks a lot guys for the camera samples. I think we would all agree that the daylight photos and videos are excellent.
Could we please have some more samples of low-light photos and video?
Many thanks.
Mario

Photos & video with Desire HD-video update-

http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/93c9ada2ad4d20f983f3269bdb10c7c9.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/96d317dc32e75853bb8d9418736807de.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/15c6e2c354905a9300da277dc6326ec5.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/fa4fb57af7c61c23e5831db6ac39f6b7.jpg
What do you think?

faby71 said:
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/93c9a...9bdb10c7c9.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/96d31...18736807de.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/fa4fb57af7c61c23e5831db6ac39f6b7.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/15c6e...7dc6326ec5.jpg
What do you think?
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I think your links don't work.

Yes... File not Found is all I get too.

Beards said:
Yes... File not Found is all I get too.
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Link update

faby71 said:
Link update
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No... Still showing file not found.

Beards said:
No... Still showing file not found.
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Link 1° post work!!!

faby71 said:
Link 1° post work!!!
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Where did you bought it?

Wow, very nice!

xazac said:
Where did you bought it?
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swiss

faby71 said:
swiss
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Ah, so bad! xD

Soooo much noise and artifact in those shots, resolved detail not very good either.
That said, looks like HTCs best camera ever (apart from perhaps the Mozart with its Xenon Flash, but I haven't seen many examples from that handset yet).

I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.

i agree buying a phone based on its camera is silly, the only time i have ever used my phone camera was when i got a parking ticket so i took photos of the signage and my car wrote a letter to the council and got off without having to pay
if i know im going to take photos i just take my DSLR

NZtechfreak said:
Soooo much noise and artifact in those shots, resolved detail not very good either.
That said, looks like HTCs best camera ever (apart from perhaps the Mozart with its Xenon Flash, but I haven't seen many examples from that handset yet).
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Yes, I agree.
However, what I am finding is the DHD does not leave much EXIF data.
Below is what is missing when shown in PhotoMe which is shown on the SGS:-
Under Overview
Aperture
Exposure Time
Program Mode
Flash Mode
Metering Mode
White Balance
Under Image
Orientation of Image
Software Firmware
Under Thumbnail view
Nothing. There's no section!
Under Camera
Exposure Time
F-Stop
Exposure Program
Shutter Speed
Aperture
Brightness
Exposure Bias
Maximum Lens Aperture
Metering Mode
Light Source
Flash Details
Manufacturer Notes
Sensing Method
Scene Type
Exposure Mode
White Balance
Digital Zoom Ratio
Focal Length in 35mm Film
Scene Capture Type
Contrast
Saturation
Sharpness

eozen81 said:
I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.
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Nice

More photos..............

Any chance in taking an evening shot (sunset/sunrise) without flash.
Also if possible another two low light shots with and without flash (basically the same shot for comparison on how well the camera handles low lighting with & without a flash).
Cheers.

Ouch those shots are really poor in terms of quality, noise, too strong noisereduction, chromatic abberation and hell everything.
I'm afraid Nokia N8 wins this round.
/ Magnus

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Pepsi anyone!??
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eozen81 said:
I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.
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You don't need to be obsessed with photo quality to demand more from your mobile phone camera than the Desire HD is offering though. For many of us the camera is quite an important consideration because day to day photography with our phones is part of our regular use (most of us don't carry a DSLR all the time, eh?). Its nice to have shots that are 'good enough' for that kind of casual photography, and many other non-HTC phones offer that.
I won't, and haven't ever, based a decision to buy a phone solely on the camera, but certainly its a consideration, more important for some of us than others (but you can't dictate to others how they come to a decision to get a phone or not).

Image Compression! Let us express!

With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/

BR4DOKYBrazil said:
With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/
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First off, replace "we" with "I". Second, SGS4 uses an unknown sensor with the same megapixel count as the Sony Exmor sensor, but then megapixels mean nothing anyway. Also, while there is a big discrepancy in file size, there is a not very big discrepancy in photo quality while zoomed in (compare photos at http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_sony_xperia_z-review-915p8.php) if you look at image sharpness and ignore colour saturation and that sort of things. I don't see why the XZ photo file sizes should then be doubled just because the SGS4 has larger photo sizes.

compression isn't bad, in my opinion

its the same sensor.check anadtech s4 dissasmbly.by the way they are using same sensor with different module.i dont have a Z or S4 to talk about quality though

The images quality will much much more better if Sony reduce the compression, or at least let user decide jpeg quality.

I think the issue isn't about compression but denoise algorythms.
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OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134

dubist said:
OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
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Let's hope that there really is an improvement on the camera!
I remember when I bought my Xperia S, the first fw the camera was bad enough, but the latest updates have improved a lot!

Please vote in my research, so I can present the results to Sony!

What research??

juanmaasecas said:
What research??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232999

Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312

I don't know if this related, but Sony recently applied heavy processing and compression to picture using there DSLR.
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BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312
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yeah i write them an Email that they should Post something and you have done that :victory:
Here the Email i wrote to Xperiablog

Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?

Bromsoket said:
Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?
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No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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pandaball said:
No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...

Bromsoket said:
Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...
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Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)

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Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)
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oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare

Bromsoket said:
oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare
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With pleasure. (both are done on auto/superior auto respectively)
Xperia Arc: ~2.5MB, super long exposure times and thus overexposed images
Xperia V: ~2MB, slightly oversaturated blues
No XS though
But seriously, XZ is pretty darn good for the file size already.

Low light camera "fix"?

In putting together the camera locked/unlocked comparison, I found that the locked Sony did a good job of pulling out details in low light environments, while pictures under normal lighting conditions were (mostly) unaffected.
This morning, before heading out for work, I stumbled across an app in the Play Store called Night Camera and after a quick test, found that it actually does a fairly comparable job with the Sony "high and mighty", "I'm gonna delete your DRM keys if you try to steal it" algorithms.
Here are the comparison shots. First one taken with the Sony camera on a locked bl phone, and the second taken with Night Camera on a phone that has been BL unlocked.
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it does remove the noise quite well but look at the sharpness and detail of the bench and towel

Bäcker said:
it does remove the noise quite well but look at the sharpness and detail of the bench and towel
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We all know that sony software with their own algorithms is better than this "Night Camera", but the point, imho, is that your hardware will be the same with the same capabilities with or without drm.
It's only a software related problem.
I think I'm going to unlock my bootloader now, how often happens to you guys to take a photo completely in the dark? In other condition seems there are no big differences, but I'm not a photographer myself.
On the other hand I had an s4 before the z3c, always been on aosp rom, and I've never missed any of the samsung camera capabilities, even knowing they were degraded using google camera.

yes, that is a nice confirmation. Though I've always been convinced that this is just a software problem and sony does not actually degrade the hardware.

Keep in mind that the same photo using an iPhone 5s results in a nearly black picture!

kaiowas82 said:
We all know that sony software with their own algorithms is better than this "Night Camera", but the point, imho, is that your hardware will be the same with the same capabilities with or without drm.
It's only a software related problem.
I think I'm going to unlock my bootloader now, how often happens to you guys to take a photo completely in the dark? In other condition seems there are no big differences, but I'm not a photographer myself.
On the other hand I had an s4 before the z3c, always been on aosp rom, and I've never missed any of the samsung camera capabilities, even knowing they were degraded using google camera.
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OP, what happens if you use the Sony app and manually set ISO to 12800?

Fruktsallad said:
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OP, what happens if you use the Sony app and manually set ISO to 12800?
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You can't manually set the ISO to 12800. Can only be done in Auto mode.

Crewville96 said:
You can't manually set the ISO to 12800. Can only be done in Auto mode.
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Oh, that's true. My bad. Some third party apps allow some degree of ISO control, though.

Crewville96 said:
You can't manually set the ISO to 12800. Can only be done in Auto mode.
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Actually, while there's no 12800 ISO setting, there is a SCENE for High ISO in manual mode.

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Actually, while there's no 12800 ISO setting, there is a SCENE for High ISO in manual mode.
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Yup, but I'm shooting with the High ISO mode, it's only taking pics at 3200 ISO.

nope, not even close.

If only Sony's camera software was as competent in other lighting situations as it was in low light conditions, they would have the best camera experience on the market, hands down.

Z3 camera worse than Moto G 2014?

Today I tested canera performance on my Z3 and my brother's Moto G (2014). The result scared me a little. I hope it's just me who thought the moto G ones were more vivid... what do u guys think?
Moto G:
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Z3 captures the colors as they are in real life. Some would say that's good, but I'd rather get more vivid images instead ?

That's why you edit pictures afterwise.

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That's why you edit pictures afterwise.
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So a high-end $600 phone needs pictures edited to make it equal to a low budget phone?

Well what did the actual scene look like????

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Well what did the actual scene look like????
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It looked more like the z3's pics. The Moto saturation is a little high.

Yes, sadly.

Try the Camera FV-5 apk. Not that any particular app makes the pictures look better but it gives you a DSLR complete control feel to it. Also the Aviary apk (free) has some nice simple touch ups for pictures.
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Whats wrong with the pics?
The Moto pictures look as said saturated blurred and low in quality.
The camera of the Z3 is the best one I ever had. Even in low light enviroment it makes awesome pics.
Compare some pics in the evening when u are watching tv with lights out and be happy to have a phone with such an awesome cam.
The Cam and the Display are the 2 things that keeps me away from installing CM.
If u want more colors play a bit around with the special effects f.e. hdr.

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So, I wasn't there but this is what I interpret the pictures as.
The Moto G pics aren't really over-saturated, they just lack dynamic range (difference between dark vs light areas). They essentially tuned the sensor so that if this sort of thing happens, it chooses the brighter side of the scene. The leaves and darker areas can't be recorded as dark as they actually were, so it chooses to make the overall picture just brighter. Sony does a much better job of capturing the light areas such as the concrete and also the darker shades and leaves. The other difference is white balance, the Sony chose something a little cooler, and the Moto warmer. Without being there, tough to say which is more accurate but from the pics I'd say the Sony got it right.
Easy fix, force the Sony to overexpose or use something like pixlr to boost exposure.
Second picture is much of the same, the thing that jumps out is the red colors. In the moto it looks orange, in the Z it looks much more red. Again, if I had to guess the Z got it right.
Now, this is all great with plants, rocks, and garden hoses, but what happens when you take a picture of people? Those Moto pics are going to look off, like people's faces look like cake and lack the proper color it needs.

Z3 is easily better if you know how to use a camera

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Thats kind of the while point of "point and shoot". I should be fiddling with settings when im trying to capture that moment. Superior auto setting is an absolute garbage
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Xposed module changes superior auto to 20.7 mp makes a big difference

Seriously what is wrong with you guys.
Have you ever used an high quality cam?
In every shop there are phones where you can test them.
There are more tests in the net as you could ever read in your lifetime.
So if you don't like it don't buy it.
Should sound familiar as an iPhone user xD
Have just done a few shots but I'm sure you can save your favorite settings.
If this is too mich work to do I would suggest to sell your Z3 and buy an Moto or similar and stop annoying us.

I personally think the z3 camera is one of the best out there not hard to use manual mode

Sorry. I should've quoted the person who said that that he prefeerd the more vibrant colors over the more accurate. I meant that if you want it more vibrant you should edit it so and let the original photo be correct.

I use 8MP on manual it does well, it's just "Superior Auto" that sucks.

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So a high-end $600 phone needs pictures edited to make it equal to a low budget phone?
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Sorry. I should've quoted the person who said that that he prefeerd the more vibrant colors over the more accurate. I meant that if you want it more vibrant you should edit it so and let the original photo be correct.

I think it isa good also ti add that Feature if the client wants a vibrant they should add it.
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Did you try using HDR?