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Galaxy SII wins Best Camera Phone for class ~ Andoid Magazine Issue 3

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If anyone is interested.... It is of no surprise the Samsung Galaxy SII has been voted Best Camera Phone of class in this months 'Android Magazine'.
This is the line up:-
HTC Sensation ~ 3 Stars
Produced some passable shots although sometimes lacking detail, while video motion could be jerky.
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc ~ 4 Stars
A great screen and camera features, let down by lower-spec video recording and a lack of editing software.
Samsung Galaxy SII ~ 5 Stars
The most consistent results of all the cameras tested, with some nice editing software to top things off!
LG Optimus 2X ~ 3 Stars
Can produce some nice macro shots with accurate colour matching, but let down by its video quality.
Android Magazine asked independent users to pick out the best prints from the batch they had.
Tests also included outdoor brightness conditions which favoured the SGS2 very well.
Final test included the ability to not only take a shot/video but editing which again the SGS2 won admirably.

Nice to see GSII winning it but I've used ARC and maybe only me found the Camera a bit better than ours.
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for me sony did a better job with camera thingy. they always have ever since the k810 cybershot model. haha~~

Arc is good but video not on par with SGS2.

LuffyPSP said:
for me sony did a better job with camera thingy. they always have ever since the k810 cybershot model. haha~~
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They did make good camera's but that was till nokia came out with the n95.
since then the sony ericsson module has never been on the top.

Don't know which N95 you had, but the one I had was never in a million years better than my k810i or indeed my xperia x10 for pictures. Nokia pics, certainly on N95 seemed much like Iphone shots, cartoony and over bright etc.
Right now i'd say the Arc is a better camera than the Galaxy S2 but the video lets the Arc down.
N8 I don't know, the pictures i've seen on it look marvelous, but its not android so doesnt count lol

biffsmash said:
Don't know which N95 you had, but the one I had was never in a million years better than my k810i or indeed my xperia x10 for pictures. Nokia pics, certainly on N95 seemed much like Iphone shots, cartoony and over bright etc.
Right now i'd say the Arc is a better camera than the Galaxy S2 but the video lets the Arc down.
N8 I don't know, the pictures i've seen on it look marvelous, but its not android so doesnt count lol
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yes k810i ftw!!! mine is still functioning and still taking good pictures with it.

cool man .!!!!!1

I know is android mag, but it would have been nice to see it go againts the iphone camera. Since i am a current ios user and always looking to see how Android has improved to a possible change over.

So the famous 'pink spot' maybe is not that significant after all. Personally, I hardly notice anything of this artifact in day to day photos...unless of course I'm snapping my white wallpaper.
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pink spot is a killer for me...complete fail for photos in light situations. winner my arse...xperia ARC wins hands down.

[REQUEST] Real world photos

I'm toying with the idea of getting one of these cameras, maybe it's a bit too soon to ask but, can some of you with the camera, post some photos you've taken with it, real world photos from actual owners and not just press shots.
Not really fussed if you've used the built in apps for editing the images you post, as it will just add to the "things you can do with this device" I just want to get the opinions from actual users who have spent their hard earned cash on it and get their points of view about their experience with it, what the performance is like, how good/poor is the daily use image quality of the camera like, whether you think it was worth the £399 etc... etc....
TIA.
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II

Real Photo Taken By Me
Here is a Macro:
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A Rich Tone:
And a Normal:

Slow Motion Video
Here is a Slow Motion Video:
http://youtu.be/tcQtKfO16bo

Some more pictures
I took these photos this morning...
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Interesting. Some purple camera flare in the shoot with the sun. Just like the Iphone 5

Here's a handful I took a few days ago.. (Dropbox Link)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sgjjatb3zv06ib8/_VGWEPCPiq

It all looks really good, has anyone ventured into the manual settings much?
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II

apprentice said:
Here's a handful I took a few days ago.. (Dropbox Link)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sgjjatb3zv06ib8/_VGWEPCPiq
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Nice shots - just got my galaxy cam but don't have any paths nearly that beautiful to walk with it. Would love to see photo spheres come this device.

I'm no photo bug but those look like some nice shots to me.
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Here are 3 live videos of Gary Barlow on Monday evening. I was stood well back hence the enhanced shaking hand effect http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb4AsPYRrYlN6bcceKarcDlCtMSf_Ueui

The Moon
This a picture I shot of the moon using manual settings.

Video quality is really good, and surprisingly so is the sound.
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II

I've bought the camera on the very first day of availability, 7th November, directly in London's Samsung flagship store at 5pm when the boxes were brought in I might be the first to have bought the camera officially...
However, on my Flickr account I've collected some pictures that I've made since then.
The lens is amazing, the CMOS chip not so, zooming into pictures details become just a mess of pixels. Or should I say mash?
But it's just a point-and-shooter and it does very good pictures at low light. Unless you don't zoom in too much, that is.

paulikxp said:
I've bought the camera on the very first day of availability, 7th November, directly in London's Samsung flagship store at 5pm when the boxes were brought in I might be the first to have bought the camera officially...
However, on my Flickr account I've collected some pictures that I've made since then.
The lens is amazing, the CMOS chip not so, zooming into pictures details become just a mess of pixels. Or should I say mash?
But it's just a point-and-shooter and it does very good pictures at low light. Unless you don't zoom in too much, that is.
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I know it's a bit apple and oranges but which one would you consider this one, or the Sony. I currently have 2 S3s in my household + my current phone is Note 2. Maybe that's a bit too much of the Galaxy goodness, what do you think?

victorator said:
I currently have 2 S3s in my household + my current phone is Note 2. Maybe that's a bit too much of the Galaxy goodness, what do you think?
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Haha, I sold my S3 and a Nexus 7 to help fund the purchase of a Note II and the Galaxy Camera, I considered keeping the S3 at one point, as I love Samsung's Galaxy range! So now the camera and Note II are my absolute favourite gadgets of all time ツ
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Cape Manza in Okinawa/Japan
Hello, I shoot two pictures at Cape Manza.
One is the bird with tele-mode(zoom-in), other one is the cap with wide-mode(zoom-out).
I shoot with out the tri-pod.
Thanks.
riki0081 from Japan.

I took these shots of the weekend at a bodybuilding show... The battery lasted for about 4 hours of very use... I was using the picpush app to stream photos to facebook as I was taking them... This is a very cool device! remove the space in the url lol
facebook dot com/media/set/?set=a.10151155433826297.435735.584311296&type=1&l=87f30869cc

After seeing lots of photos from you guys I don't think I will be getting this camera. I will go for the sony hx20 or lumix tz30 (leaning towards the lumix, although sony kills it with image stabilization and speed of operation).

victorator said:
After seeing lots of photos from you guys I don't think I will be getting this camera. I will go for the sony hx20 or lumix tz30 (leaning towards the lumix, although sony kills it with image stabilization and speed of operation).
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That's your decision... but both of them are not comparable to the Galaxy Camera in my opinion as they don't come with Android/touchscreen/3G.
I think only somebody who really wants those features will buy the Galaxy not because of its picture quality, which is good but far from perfect.

Jelly beans
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At last, the wait is over for Oppo's latest flagship device

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At last, the wait is over for Oppo's latest flagship device. Launched in Beijing earlier, the Find 5 comes with pretty much all the top ingredients in the current market -- many of which had been teased by the company multiple times already: 5-inch 1080p display, Qualcomm's quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064 chip with 2GB RAM, a 2,500mAh battery and Android 4.1.2. There's also NFC, and on top of that, the Find 5 will come with two NFC tags (remember LG's Optimus LTE Tag and Sony's SmartTags?) plus a special version of Sina Weibo that uses the phone's NFC to let users instantly follow each other.
The 13-megapixel, 5fps camera on the back isn't just about numbers, as it also packs fast hardware-enabled HDR for both photos and video! Oppo claims it's the first in the mobile industry to carry this awesome feature. Additionally, the main camera can capture slow motion of up to 120fps, though it isn't clear whether the resolution is reduced to achieve this. On the other side of the device there's also a 1.9-megapixel front-facing camera, which beats most phones these days. Audio-wise the Find 5 features Dirac HD, a technology that's embraced by the likes of BMW, Bentley, Rolls Royce and Datasat; making Oppo the first mobile phone brand to join the party. The included earphones are fine-tuned for Dirac, naturally.

Find 5 could have been the first phone with HDR video if it had been released just a month ago... Now Sony beat Oppo to it, with a phone that's superior in other aspects as well
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1337RYoN said:
Find 5 could have been the first phone with HDR video if it had been released just a month ago... Now Sony beat Oppo to it, with a phone that's superior in other aspects as well
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I'm pretty sure it was the first phone with HDR but it was only sold in China at the time. It was released in China first and has been available for a couple months now in China, I'm pretty sure. It was released a month ago in the US, They just sold one batch though in the US and it sold out in minutes, it crashed the Oppo servers from people trying to purchase, they wasn't ready for the demand, I guess and server went down, but some lucky people got in on the first batch. They are selling in the US and other countries now. I prefer the second batch personally anyways because of the button etchings, see pic below. Now they have more in stock so its easier to get at www.oppostyle.com if they don't sell out again soon, I already purchased mine so I got one coming 32GB version? the second batch in stock now ships in 1-2 weeks but people are already starting to get processed emails.

1337RYoN said:
Find 5 could have been the first phone with HDR video if it had been released just a month ago... Now Sony beat Oppo to it, with a phone that's superior in other aspects as well
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I just watched a review on the Z, and next to the OPPO the colors look washed out and dull, and the viewing angles are sad. Also the camera isn't getting the best reviews either. So its arguable that the Z is superior.
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Coreym said:
I just watched a review on the Z, and next to the OPPO the colors look washed out and dull, and the viewing angles are sad. Also the camera isn't getting the best reviews either. So its arguable that the Z is superior.
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Xperia Z and Oppo Find 5, have the same Sony Exmor RS camera sensor
The display is awful on the Xperia Z IMO, if you are not looking at the screen straight on, it gets really washed out, and another thing is that it is such a fingerprint magnet. Every review that I have saw, the device has fingerprints all over it and that is one thing I can’t stand personally. The Xperia Z does not have Gorilla Glass 2 either.
I would hate to have a stand/charger/holder for at night while trying to watch a movie on the Xperia Z, you would have to have it directly in front of you to get a clear picture,. You couldn’t have any angles or the video would look washed out. The only advantage I see is that it has an SD card slot, but this may not be an advantage for everyone. I have the 32GB version of the Find 5 and with all my Cloud Storage accounts, so I’m fine with 32GB. You can’t use the SD card anyways for the use with games or apps, which Google screwed up by doing this for some reason.
The Xperia Z is a nice device but, I was just turned off by the display, and all the fingerprints it picks up. I don’t think the Z is superior in any way, both devices have the same specs, but the Z has an SD card slot. Both have the Sony Exmor RS camera sensor, so it’s a pretty close call, it comes down to which device you like better, Both phones are nice to have though.

Image Compression! Let us express!

With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/

BR4DOKYBrazil said:
With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/
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First off, replace "we" with "I". Second, SGS4 uses an unknown sensor with the same megapixel count as the Sony Exmor sensor, but then megapixels mean nothing anyway. Also, while there is a big discrepancy in file size, there is a not very big discrepancy in photo quality while zoomed in (compare photos at http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_sony_xperia_z-review-915p8.php) if you look at image sharpness and ignore colour saturation and that sort of things. I don't see why the XZ photo file sizes should then be doubled just because the SGS4 has larger photo sizes.

compression isn't bad, in my opinion

its the same sensor.check anadtech s4 dissasmbly.by the way they are using same sensor with different module.i dont have a Z or S4 to talk about quality though

The images quality will much much more better if Sony reduce the compression, or at least let user decide jpeg quality.

I think the issue isn't about compression but denoise algorythms.
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OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134

dubist said:
OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
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Let's hope that there really is an improvement on the camera!
I remember when I bought my Xperia S, the first fw the camera was bad enough, but the latest updates have improved a lot!

Please vote in my research, so I can present the results to Sony!

What research??

juanmaasecas said:
What research??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232999

Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312

I don't know if this related, but Sony recently applied heavy processing and compression to picture using there DSLR.
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BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312
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yeah i write them an Email that they should Post something and you have done that :victory:
Here the Email i wrote to Xperiablog

Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?

Bromsoket said:
Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?
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No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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pandaball said:
No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...

Bromsoket said:
Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...
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Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)

pandaball said:
Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)
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oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare

Bromsoket said:
oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare
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With pleasure. (both are done on auto/superior auto respectively)
Xperia Arc: ~2.5MB, super long exposure times and thus overexposed images
Xperia V: ~2MB, slightly oversaturated blues
No XS though
But seriously, XZ is pretty darn good for the file size already.

Xperia Z3 l55t

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I'll be in line to get one. Estimated release date/region?
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Any size information ?
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Cant find much difference in this and z2, except for smaller speaker grills maybe. And given the rumoured specs, its more like z2s lol

@iRimas
Will you get this one as well soon?
Another awesome device from Sony...
Can't wait October to buy something new
I only hope there'll be the reason to buy it...
If Sony stay on S800/801, I'm quite sure I'll skip this one...
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Thanks for sharing irimas. second leak of the same design. to me it looks to be z3. the design look fine to me but i'll have an opinion after seeing the whole device in higher quality pics, not these purposely blurred once for obvious reasons. with that said, my next device if probably z4, not this one, but it's nice to see the design as this should share more or less the same design with z4.

I love the sides and bottom design :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/07/12/more-xperia-z3-pictures-leak-reveals-more-details-about-device/

Wait, aosp launcher? lol
I have seen different view of the leak at gsmarena. I doubt it is real because the size is pretty small.

Maybe it's the Z3C
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same design.nothing change to me
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Like Nokia 925 ! I don't like it and I hope it's a feke pictures

I will skip this one. Hopefully, Z4 will be a true rival to iPhone and SamSung Galaxy.
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how could the hardware probably be different from the Z2 ?
Snapdragon S805 ? and more ? 5.5" screen ? maybe in 2560x1440 ? still 3gb ram !

Wondering why one of two is always ugly...
Z was great, Z1 not, Z2 amazing, Z3 awful...
Hope Z4 will be perfect again

Haldi4803 said:
how could the hardware probably be different from the Z2 ?
Snapdragon S805 ? and more ? 5.5" screen ? maybe in 2560x1440 ? still 3gb ram !
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You have screenshots in OP where you can read it's still S800/801 - I really hope S805 will be available for Z3 - it's not good to have three-four devices with a same chipset (same/similar or old cpu but overclocked - to higher values, of course)
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You have screenshots in OP where you can read it's still S800/801 - I really hope S805 will be available for Z3 - it's not good to have three-four devices with a same chipset (same/similar or old cpu but overclocked - to higher values, of course)
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we should see S805 for Z4 in MWC 2015...
and they still didn't increase the camera pixels for Z3,Z1 & Z2 already 20.7MP...

Ben Ling said:
we should see S805 for Z4 in MWC 2015...
and they still didn't increase the camera pixels for Z3,Z1 & Z2 already 20.7MP...
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To be honest, I don't see a need to upgrade higher pixel for the camera. What's more important is the optimization of the camera in my humble opinion.
Also, as long as Sony continue naming its flagship Z3,Z4 and so on, then I believe it will continue the omnibalance design of the Z. Usually Sony introduce a new product name if it comes with a new design. Then again, its just an opinion of mine.. I could be wrong.
Regarding the S801, if Sony were to use it on Z3 then Z3 would be the last flagship of the Z line. Since they will look to clear all their SoC stocks.
Personally, if Z3 is released similar to what the leaks are, then Z2 would probably the best option to stay with.

Looks the same...
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is it me, or are these phones getting too damn big? the Z3 is the size of a NOTE 3! come on Sony, that's nuts. do what you want with the Ultra for a phablet, but please, keep your phones at a reasonable size. the Z2/GS5/M8 are already a bit beyond what i think is "too big" (perfect size would probably be a GS4).
why not:
1. make the bezels and top and bottom smaller -- instead of bigger!
2. increase earpiece/speaker volume from the Z2
3. put a next-gen CPU/GPU combo in it, but maintain standard HD resolution. (forget about pointlessly chasing 2K pixels on a bloody handset like dumb LG/Samsung are trying to do)
4. use Gorilla Glass 3 (or 4, if that exists by the time of release)
5. optimize the camera software/hardware so that 20MB photography isn't only manual
6. increase brightness of the screen for outdoor viewing
7. make 64GB and worldwide LTE bands standard issue
this would be perfect.