I am curious if the nexus 4 will ever see the likes of MIUI or Sense roms or something? Is that is a possibility? I like variety. I came from a G2 so I am used to having several different kinds of roms like this. I know that phone is old and it took me awhile to upgrade. Lol. Just curious.
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Palingenesis said:
I am curious if the nexus 4 will ever see the likes of MIUI or Sense roms or something? Is that is a possibility? I like variety. I came from a G2 so I am used to having several different kinds of roms like this. I know that phone is old and it took me awhile to upgrade. Lol. Just curious.
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Miui is impossible right now. The latest miui rom is 4.1.2 based and our firmwares are 4.2 based
Until miui team doesnt update their rom (miui5) to android 4.2 we are out.
Sense porting is incredibly difficult, since has practically nothing to do with aosp, touchwiz, etc...
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That's barely variety. Almost all ROMs there are cm based and cooked, the rest is leaked, outdated or mashed up, the number of actual/original contemporary ROMs is either zero or very small. I've got an s2, too and I've been in that scene long enough. Nexus is like day and night compared to a legacy ROM scene. The number of ROMs may appear smaller, but that's still the source of pretty much all the features you were enjoying, exception being miui and OEM skins.
What will happen eventually i guess, is that people will start theming roms to look like sense and other ui's.
My first Nexus and i do find rom scene a bit boring compared to OEMs. Although, I'm thoroughly enjoying stability of Nexus custom roms, and since my flashing addiction has gone downhill, I'm ok.
That's the great thing about the nexus being a developers device. If you want it then by all mean make it. Sense will never make it to a none HTC device fully due to needing the HTC framework and lib files which can't be ported. Same with touchwiz. As for MIUI don't even get me started with that lol.
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The Nexus 7 has so many ROMs it is almost overwhelming. I have tried so many, but at the end I end up un installing. Why? Because they do not update from Goo Manager app. You have to hunt down the updates every couple of days. Hell, sometimes the "developer" only makes a couple of versions then abandons the project.
I learned about the Android Original Development Section, those ROMs are more unique and are not just copies from each other. They can be more unstable though.
I want a Pure AOSP untouched, that is able to be updated from Goo Manager, pre rooted. Any recommendations?
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I want a Pure AOSP untouched, that is able to be updated from Goo Manager, pre rooted. Any recommendations?
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Pure AOSP untouched, is updated by GooGLE
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The Nexus 7 has so many ROMs it is almost overwhelming. I have tried so many, but at the end I end up un installing. Why? Because they do not update from Goo Manager app. You have to hunt down the updates every couple of days. Hell, sometimes the "developer" only makes a couple of versions then abandons the project.
I learned about the Android Original Development Section, those ROMs are more unique and are not just copies from each other. They can be more unstable though.
I want a Pure AOSP untouched, that is able to be updated from Goo Manager, pre rooted. Any recommendations?
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Hundreds? I count 15 ROMs for the Nexus 7 here on XDA, and that's both development section added together. One of them even states that it's a pure AOSP ROM. Being able to update on Goo Manager isn't going to be something you just run into as being common on all ROMs. At least right now. I currently have 3 active devices, and I flash constantly. I think I have come across one ROM between them all that had any association with Goo Manager. That should change as it gets more widely adopted.
This is just beginning, too. Go take a look at how many ROMs there are for a device like the EVO 4G. There is 64 pages of ROMs for that device. The Nexus 7 only has 3. You're in for a rough ride if you think there's already too many.
AOKP all the way!
They have been making some very nice roms and shortly they should have a Nexus 7.
There are a lot of crap ROMs out there. If it's not Cyanogenmod then I'm not installing it.
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There are a lot of crap ROMs out there. If it's not Cyanogenmod then I'm not installing it.
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I know! Some of them just change the boot animation and wallpaper and they call it a rom! Stop wasting our time.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745904
[ROM] KRAKD-7 by SoCal Devs █ July 1st 2012 █ v1.0
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Hundreds? Yeah mate, you need help with your math. Try going to the S2 or S3 section, then take a look at roms. Even then, why does it offend you? Just choose what you want and go with it. Some cater towards some peoples tastes and other roms, to other peoples. Isn't that the best part of having such an ecosystem?
Plus, the rom you just linked *could* be seen as fairly outdated now seeing as it was updated over a month ago.
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Hundreds? Yeah mate, you need help with your math. Try going to the S2 or S3 section, then take a look at roms. Even then, why does it offend you? Just choose what you want and go with it. Some cater towards some peoples tastes and other roms, to other peoples. Isn't that the best part of having such an ecosystem?
Plus, the rom you just linked *could* be seen as fairly outdated now seeing as it was updated over a month ago.
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Sorry mate, I was exaggerating.
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I know! Some of them just change the boot animation and wallpaper and they call it a rom! Stop wasting our time.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745904
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I think you are misunderstanding the purpose of XDA. It's a developer community. A lot of people are here to learn how to develop for Android. What you may see as waste of your time, could have been a pretty big deal to the person that cooked it. XDA isn't here to provide you with the most awesome ROM for your device. It's hear for learning and supporting developers. Who in most cases are nice enough to share their work with the public. If you don't like it, don't flash it. But don't start ragging on ROMs/devs because you aren't happy with what they did.
Best solution EVER. If you don't like what's there...grab some coffee and your reading glasses and learn how to make your own ROM that is exactly what you want it to be. Otherwise be grateful for the intelligent and amazing folks on here that give up their time and energy to provide you with free tools, ROMs, apps, hacks, and advice.
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Or you could, you know, just update it yourself. It's not like you don't know how to flash hundreds of roms.
Lol, my old galaxy ace had 500 ROMs and they were all based on the same CM7 and had one ICS theme or another.
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So I rooted my SGS2 so I could get ICS and the JB.
With the Nexus 4 one doesn't get that benefit so I'm thinking I may not install a custom ROM.
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So I rooted my SGS2 so I could get ICS and the JB.
With the Nexus 4 one doesn't get that benefit so I'm thinking I may not install a custom ROM.
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Not really sure what you mean. You will get Google updates as they come out and there will be custom roms.
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We'll see what CM has to offer...
Not right away, but more than likely I will eventually.
100%. It's the whole point in getting a Nexus device for me.
I bought an S3 and was expecting awesome dev support, having come from a S1. The lack of Exynos documentation kills any sort of chance of good AOSP based roms for that device. S3 is now sold
Stock android is great but things like lack of T9 dialling and lack of quick toggles bug the hell out of me.
Of course. Have the last version of android is only one of the things you get with a nexus. Have the last version with a lot of addons is better. Read what aokp offer.
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100%. It's the whole point in getting a Nexus device for me.
I bought an S3 and was expecting awesome dev support, having come from a S1. The lack of Exynos documentation kills any sort of chance of good AOSP based roms for that device. S3 is now sold
Stock android is great but things like lack of T9 dialling and lack of quick toggles bug the hell out of me.
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same for me! i have a One S and i'm tiered of waiting for a stable aosp rom
I hope some of the manufacturer skins get ported over. I honestly enjoy Sense every once in a while, and that skin LG has on the Optimus G looks pretty sweet. But I really love vanilla android and always end up running AOSP for the most part. And MIUI, big MIUI fan.
Cm10 will be available within a week or two for the n4. Perhaps even sooner than that. Android 4.2 is not a huge update. I remember when 4.1 went live, it was incorporated within a week or so. That's what I expect for cm10. Even aokp and all aosp ROMs. That's how I see it
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I hope some of the manufacturer skins get ported over. I honestly enjoy Sense every once in a while, and that skin LG has on the Optimus G looks pretty sweet. But I really love vanilla android and always end up running AOSP for the most part. And MIUI, big MIUI fan.
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This. I am genuinely looking forward to giving MIUI a go again! I used to love it on the S1.
With the Quad S4, I highly doubt we'll actually even see a visual difference. It'll be a placebo effect for most people.
I'm half-tempted to just run full stock since I'm getting tired of the custom ROM scene. Kernels are ok though sometimes.
I'm willing to flash a ROM but I from flashing so many ROMs on my GNex I realized that the ROM doesn't add much improvement. To notice any improvement you're gonna want to flash a kernel instead. Roms just as features, but for the real gain in battery and speed you flash the kernel. So I'm gonna wait for Franco or Morfic to get their hands on the N4 and crackflash their kernels lol.
I never felt the need to install a custom ROM on my N7, so probably not, there's not a whole lot of improvements that can be made when the N4 is already 100% pure Android, as most of the custom ROM's I've dealt with on other phones are basically trying to make it 99% pure Android. Not to mention if you get the 8GB model, performing backups will be a pain.
I like the custom ROMs, mainly cm10, because of the quick toggles, weather on lock screen, etc. A lot of tweaks are made, just like aokp, which is another good ROM. Also, apps are also tweaked, like adding iso or a timer in the camera app. A lot of good tweaks are added with custom ROMs
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On my old captivate (which was running 2.1-2.3) had roms running on it left, right and centre. But once I got the gnex and ics I didnt feel a need for roms anymore as well as with jelly bean. So I probably wouldnt be using roms on the N4 either.
I don't think I will be installing a custom rom on the N4. I like the stock look which is why I rooted my Droid Incredible and flashed CM on it. Seeing as most of the stuff I use in CM 7.2 has been incorporated into the later versions of Android is another reason I probably won't flash a custom rom unless a really useful feature is added that I would want.
The first thing I'm gonna do when I get my N4 is root and flash a battery mod. :silly: I'm still kinda annoyed Google hasn't added this.
With my Infuse, I rooted and added a custom ROM because I was sick of what Samsung added to the phone. I might just keep this phone stock for a while, and enjoy the updates as they come in. I like some of the features some ROMs offered, like Paranoid, but I'll just see how everything goes stock.
Maybe not the first week or two. But after that there will be some awesome stuff. Plus I'll prolly make one for myself like I always do.
Definitely looking towards custom kernels and UV and OC scripts.
AOSP or AOKP will be flashed ASAP!
Hello,
I have a question about the custom roms made for the nexus 4 compared to other devices.
Does custom roms for the N4 have 'less' bugs/driver problems compared to other devices? (because manufactures keep them closed, while Google doesn't?).
With other words: making custom roms for the N4 is relativity easy and have minor issues compared to other devices?
I always had HTC, but there are always problems with roms, by the time they get solved, it's already time to buy a new devices. At this point I'm thinking of buying the N4
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Bro, unlike HTC or any other OEM, Nexus is open. So making a ROM would be easier. Yes it would have less bugs.
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I'm using Xylon stable version and its literally bug free, came from a S2 which had so many issues which would NEVER be fixed, its like a night and day experience
I am thinking about finally rooting and romming my I337.. Which should I do? Why/Why Not?
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No brain'er here, CM. Google is to bland, basic, and is sluggish to me.
The Ax says, my opinion only.
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No brain'er here, CM. Google is to bland, basic, and is sluggish to me.
The Ax says, my opinion only.
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I would say that opposite, cm has some nice features, but are not ready yet for an everyday phone with zero issues. Google edition is rock solid stable. Also some people, like myself, appreciate the barebones look of stock Android and don't want all the add-ons that come with cm
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I tried GE but missed CM features too much.
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I tried GE but missed CM features too much.
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Same. I tried GE for about 3 or 4 hour before reverting to a nandroid of my CM10.1 Hell I couldnt even turn off the Google Seach on the homescreen on it like I can with CM
IMHO Cm10.1 is very very stable now. Running it every day no issues at all for me.
When using GE, I didn't like not having the ability to change the quick settings pull-down options
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IMHO Cm10.1 is very very stable now. Running it every day no issues at all for me.
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I wholeheartedly agree. I had been rom hopping around all over the place, but have pretty much settled into CM.
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Thanks everyone... My buddy just got a true GE S4 and I am going to play with it but you have confirmed what I was thinking.
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Me personally I didnt like the CM roms. I think they are good just need a little more work to make them really shine. Now GE my phone ran amazing and had great battery life. If you like to customize heavily I think CM but if you want a phone that really shines on battery life GE.
The CM mods don't have the headphone microphone & audio working during phone calls.
I'm still contemplating which rom should I switch.. Which rooting method did you guys used?
My S4 is GT-i9505 (I9505XXUBMF8), I've read about Motochopper and CF method, which is safer and easier?
I used Casual 527b. It worked flawlessly.
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That is a good complete no brainer hahah. Cm10.1 is the same thing as GE
They are both aosp based hence look the same , act the same. However one has tons of features and one has almost no features. Cm10.1 really is better . And ... if you really like ge edition thqt much go download the sun beam live wallpaper and apply it on Cm10.1!!! Now it's google edition'd. Lol.
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I'm still contemplating which rom should I switch.. Which rooting method did you guys used?
My S4 is GT-i9505 (I9505XXUBMF8), I've read about Motochopper and CF method, which is safer and easier?
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I have an I337m, so the boot loader is unlocked, I used Odin to flash CWM, then used that to flash the superSU zip file
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Thanks for posting the question OP. I'm a big fan of CM and I wish it was a simple answer. It's rather complicated. I came from the Evita (HTC One X) over to GS4 and I was wondering whether the GE would outshine CM. Currently I'm on CM10.2 nightlies (just arrived) with a nandroid of KangaBean GE backed up on my phone.
Basically, if you're coming from TW stock, you may love GE unconditionally and love it's rock solid stability. However if you've gotten a taste of CM, you're going to look at GE as a bit bare boned when it comes to features. I think the CM devs are brilliant but you'll have to contend with a few bugs in the nightlies here and there but that's not to say CM isn't a daily driver. On this device, it absolutely is good to go. CM also has literally has an army of devs adding new security features and new apps to enrich the experience (Focal and hopefully in the near future, Chomecast). GE isn't doing that at all and you're really relying on a couple of devs teaming up and trying to add mods to enrich the experience.
Also regarding updates, the CM team is absolutely committed to keeping you on the bleeding edge. If you noticed, Android 4.3 dropped and the CM team SWARMED on it. The Github was a mess for a few weeks but they essentially ripped it all apart and put it back together in a very short period. Now they're on 4.3/CM10.2 nightlies for most devices. On the other hand, if you think just because you have a GE phone you're going to get the latest updates you're in for a rude awakening. It wasn't billed as a Nexus device so don't expect updates on that level. Hopefully GE updates drop earlier than the TW updates so the devs can get their hands on them for you but I'm not holding my breath on that one. To be honest, I think you're more likely to see the next version of Android come from CyanogenMod.
So you just have to pick your poison. I think I'm going to restore KangaBean today but I'll likely be back on CM before the day is over.
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First of all, did your phone already update to MF3? if so your only option is rooting at this point the Loki exploit was patched in MF3 and your likely SOL when it comes to custom roms, possibly permanently, bootloader workarounds or unlocks are tough and I haven't seen any signs of progress on that front around here on XDA
If you want a rom that is a stable excellent daily driver go with GPe rom, no issues or lag whatsoever.
If you want to be on the bleeding edge, use CM but it still has some pretty big bugs at this point, they don't even have a milestone release at this point I don't think, it's just nightlies. There will be issues
The few extra features aren't worth the bugs imho, I don't mess with CM until they get to a RC for my device, (occasionally I've give a milestone release a try) because the bugs bother me.
I'd rather have stability over features that I rarely use.
Most people on XDA tend to overlook a lot of small and sometimes big bugs with very early releases of AOSP roms like CM and AOKP
Casual was super easy and that's what I used to root, though I swapped out TWRP for clockwork recovery as it has auto-loki
Please detail these "big bugs".
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Please detail these "big bugs".
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Now when you were on CM did you ever make it to CM 11 M8 Build. I really enjoy that ROM on my s4 but I have better luck using Dan's 4.4.4 GPE ROM. its way more stable. I really want to love CM because I believe they have so much going for them but I have too many issues. Plus battery life is not amazing. No horrible but not amazing.
I'm trying to decide between the G2 and Note 3. Obviously both have their plus and minus points but what will sway it for me is the dev action with vanilla ROMs.
I know it's early days for the G2, and N3 isn't even out yet, but I'd like opinions on whether G2 is gonna get much love in this respect? Did the LG Optimus G Pro get much? Also any other factors preventing this, such as locked bootloaders, etc. I will be looking at getting the UK version.
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A super alpha (more proof of concept) cm10.1 just went up today.
Wow great news to hear there is a CM build for this already, even if it is a really buggy early alpha right now. It will get better.
I think that if the Nexus 5 is in fact what we have been seeing the past few days in the FCC papers then the G2 will also get some great AOSP love since the hardware itself is near identical, the physical form factor is what is changed.
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I'm trying to decide between the G2 and Note 3. Obviously both have their plus and minus points but what will sway it for me is the dev action with vanilla ROMs.
I know it's early days for the G2, and N3 isn't even out yet, but I'd like opinions on whether G2 is gonna get much love in this respect? Did the LG Optimus G Pro get much? Also any other factors preventing this, such as locked bootloaders, etc. I will be looking at getting the UK version.
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I don't have enough posts to post in that thread, but I'm on board with this effort. I'll gladly help with getting a fully function CM port running; doing so will also effectively complete the groundwork for a true Nexus-like vanilla AOSP build.
I'm a professional developer who works with desktop C++ and embedded linux, hacked on and rolled my own kernel drivers, etc. My plan is to make this my weekend project and hammer out ABI/proprietary binary issues to get a build of either CM or AOSP fully functional. Odds are good that the release of the N5 will make this process substantially easier as it will share a very similar hardware platform and include binaries linked against the latest kernels for KitKat.
I am excite.
I had been running Carbon ROM on my GNex and loved the AOSPness of it, but have to admit, I kinda enjoy some of the LG stuff. Would love LG + AOSP rom including things like tap-tap and the camera (although I miss Photosphere)
AOSP ROMS!!
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I had been running Carbon ROM on my GNex and loved the AOSPness of it, but have to admit, I kinda enjoy some of the LG stuff. Would love LG + AOSP rom including things like tap-tap and the camera (although I miss Photosphere)
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Man, I would love some AOSP ROMs for this phone. I agree that the knock-knock on/off is a nice feature, but I need vanilla Android. This LG skin is just too much for me!
Bring on the AOSP guys!
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Man, I would love some AOSP ROMs for this phone. I agree that the knock-knock on/off is a nice feature, but I need vanilla Android. This LG skin is just too much for me!
Bring on the AOSP guys!
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You just have to wait patiently. Barely 2 weeks ago CM10.2 went up for the G Pro finally, and since then, you simply have to look in the Original Devleopment forum to see what has happened. Literally, a dozen AOSP 4.2 and 4.3 ROMs popped up, all perfectly functional.
Just wait and contribute all you can and we'll all see AOSP soon.
I'm really looking into the g2 being my next device. However..... If it can't have a fully functional PACman ROM ported over, I'm out then.
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I will have to learn to progam now lol
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A super alpha (more proof of concept) cm10.1 just went up today.
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Where? I would download it just to play around lol.