So I rooted my SGS2 so I could get ICS and the JB.
With the Nexus 4 one doesn't get that benefit so I'm thinking I may not install a custom ROM.
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So I rooted my SGS2 so I could get ICS and the JB.
With the Nexus 4 one doesn't get that benefit so I'm thinking I may not install a custom ROM.
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Not really sure what you mean. You will get Google updates as they come out and there will be custom roms.
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We'll see what CM has to offer...
Not right away, but more than likely I will eventually.
100%. It's the whole point in getting a Nexus device for me.
I bought an S3 and was expecting awesome dev support, having come from a S1. The lack of Exynos documentation kills any sort of chance of good AOSP based roms for that device. S3 is now sold
Stock android is great but things like lack of T9 dialling and lack of quick toggles bug the hell out of me.
Of course. Have the last version of android is only one of the things you get with a nexus. Have the last version with a lot of addons is better. Read what aokp offer.
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100%. It's the whole point in getting a Nexus device for me.
I bought an S3 and was expecting awesome dev support, having come from a S1. The lack of Exynos documentation kills any sort of chance of good AOSP based roms for that device. S3 is now sold
Stock android is great but things like lack of T9 dialling and lack of quick toggles bug the hell out of me.
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same for me! i have a One S and i'm tiered of waiting for a stable aosp rom
I hope some of the manufacturer skins get ported over. I honestly enjoy Sense every once in a while, and that skin LG has on the Optimus G looks pretty sweet. But I really love vanilla android and always end up running AOSP for the most part. And MIUI, big MIUI fan.
Cm10 will be available within a week or two for the n4. Perhaps even sooner than that. Android 4.2 is not a huge update. I remember when 4.1 went live, it was incorporated within a week or so. That's what I expect for cm10. Even aokp and all aosp ROMs. That's how I see it
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I hope some of the manufacturer skins get ported over. I honestly enjoy Sense every once in a while, and that skin LG has on the Optimus G looks pretty sweet. But I really love vanilla android and always end up running AOSP for the most part. And MIUI, big MIUI fan.
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This. I am genuinely looking forward to giving MIUI a go again! I used to love it on the S1.
With the Quad S4, I highly doubt we'll actually even see a visual difference. It'll be a placebo effect for most people.
I'm half-tempted to just run full stock since I'm getting tired of the custom ROM scene. Kernels are ok though sometimes.
I'm willing to flash a ROM but I from flashing so many ROMs on my GNex I realized that the ROM doesn't add much improvement. To notice any improvement you're gonna want to flash a kernel instead. Roms just as features, but for the real gain in battery and speed you flash the kernel. So I'm gonna wait for Franco or Morfic to get their hands on the N4 and crackflash their kernels lol.
I never felt the need to install a custom ROM on my N7, so probably not, there's not a whole lot of improvements that can be made when the N4 is already 100% pure Android, as most of the custom ROM's I've dealt with on other phones are basically trying to make it 99% pure Android. Not to mention if you get the 8GB model, performing backups will be a pain.
I like the custom ROMs, mainly cm10, because of the quick toggles, weather on lock screen, etc. A lot of tweaks are made, just like aokp, which is another good ROM. Also, apps are also tweaked, like adding iso or a timer in the camera app. A lot of good tweaks are added with custom ROMs
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On my old captivate (which was running 2.1-2.3) had roms running on it left, right and centre. But once I got the gnex and ics I didnt feel a need for roms anymore as well as with jelly bean. So I probably wouldnt be using roms on the N4 either.
I don't think I will be installing a custom rom on the N4. I like the stock look which is why I rooted my Droid Incredible and flashed CM on it. Seeing as most of the stuff I use in CM 7.2 has been incorporated into the later versions of Android is another reason I probably won't flash a custom rom unless a really useful feature is added that I would want.
The first thing I'm gonna do when I get my N4 is root and flash a battery mod. :silly: I'm still kinda annoyed Google hasn't added this.
With my Infuse, I rooted and added a custom ROM because I was sick of what Samsung added to the phone. I might just keep this phone stock for a while, and enjoy the updates as they come in. I like some of the features some ROMs offered, like Paranoid, but I'll just see how everything goes stock.
Maybe not the first week or two. But after that there will be some awesome stuff. Plus I'll prolly make one for myself like I always do.
Definitely looking towards custom kernels and UV and OC scripts.
AOSP or AOKP will be flashed ASAP!
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Can't help but feel as if the samsung fascinate dev scene is dead until the release of froyo. Especially since all the core work is already completed with compiled kernels, recovery, base roms and voodoo. The only thing worth changing anymore are themes and I haven't even been doing that. Correct me if im wrong but I came from a droid 1 and even at 2.1 the dev scene was way bigger.
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What exactly are you looking for? You can rearrange roms only so many times... I switched roms (d1) quite a fews times and realized there were never any significant improvements...
What this dev community has given us is decent (well maybe some more themes lol) until froyo comes about..
It would be nice to have more roms and such but you get what you get.
I noticed that too. When I had my D1, there were ROMS out the ass! Then I switched to this and have been very let down. If you want a boring theme, you're in luck! Otherwise, not so much.
I think part of the reason more people didn't jump on roms was because Samsung announced it would deliver FroYo within a month after release so creating huge numbers of 2.1 roms wasn't worthwhile at the time.
It's more or less a waiting game for 2.2 now. I think the devs are just waiting for it to drop before doing more serious work on the roms (at least a couple of people I know are).
I imagine it won't be too much farther out, within a month or so...
We saw the international version get froyo, and the Epic got theirs over the weekend, Vibrant was expected on Dec 1 but due to some circumstances it got pushed back a week or so by T-Mobile.
Stop complaining, devs are always busy and frankly do everything for us for free, these things take alot of time and effort. Frankly I'm amazed we have so much, the fascinate isn't the flagship that the D1 was for verizon despite how sexy its hardware is. And to be honest its hard, to imagine my phone getting much better than it is now with dj05 the latest voodoo 5 build and some awesome themer goodness.
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I think part of the reason more people didn't jump on roms was because Samsung announced it would deliver FroYo within a month after release so creating huge numbers of 2.1 roms wasn't worthwhile at the time.
It's more or less a waiting game for 2.2 now. I think the devs are just waiting for it to drop before doing more serious work on the roms (at least a couple of people I know are).
I imagine it won't be too much farther out, within a month or so...
We saw the international version get froyo, and the Epic got theirs over the weekend, Vibrant was expected on Dec 1 but due to some circumstances it got pushed back a week or so by T-Mobile.
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Sounds about right our device came out last to, I'm going samsung gives us an early christmas present, come here car dock audio out =D
what exactly is it you guys are looking for?
there are new kernels every day and the roms that are out are fine...theres really only so many ways you can reconfigure a touchwiz based rom anyway until there is an aosp breakthrough
I'm just happy to have what we currently have now.
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If Samsung released decent source code, there may be more ROMs than what is available now, but they didn't so everything had to be just stripped down versions of what shipped with the phone. The devs have been trying to get an AOSP rom going, but I don't know the status of that.
I think there would be some AOSP roms out there. Feels like all the roms out there are based of JTs and the others are just themed. Love the kernal development from everyone. I'm actually rocking a stock rom with StupidFast because I prefer the stock feel. I wouldn't mind a nice stock rom with the some memory management improvements, removed bloat and bing removed.
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what exactly is it you guys are looking for?
there are new kernels every day and the roms that are out are fine...theres really only so many ways you can reconfigure a touchwiz based rom anyway until there is an aosp breakthrough
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I've been wondering for a while, what would it mean to have an aosp breakthrough? That is, what is holding things up, and once this is resolved will future versions of aosp be easier to build? Feel free to be very technical and precise if that's what it takes to explain, and thanks! I love your theme.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/12/08/bell-samsung-galaxy-s-vibrant-upgrade-to-os-2-2-froyo-coming-december-10th/
yep, finally here, maybe its jl1, but my guess its an unleaked firmware.
NOt the same phone
Bell/Canada and they use i9000 for their vibrant
I already have 2.2 and will probably be running on 2.3 by end of next week
(sigh)....same ****......different toilet...
OP might be on Bell is is excited that he'll be getting 2.2 on his own version of the Vibrant.
I saw today that the droid x is getting a second update to 2.2.1 and the phones came out on the same day. Samsung may be slow with updates but I think t mobile makes it much worse. I expect an update this month but tell me why every other phone gets update love and we dont.
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I saw today that the droid x is getting a second update to 2.2.1 and the phones came out on the same day. Samsung may be slow with updates but I think t mobile makes it much worse. I expect an update this month but tell me why every other phone gets update love and we dont.
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Popularity/sales. There's articles on it. Look at the popularity of the Evo and compare it to the updates they get all the time. Makes sense. My question is...why are you same idiots on a forum for development *****ing about stock ota updates. If you don't mod your phone, what are you wasting your time here for? Just flash a froyo ROM and shutup. If you've been reading anything, you'd know that the official froyo will most likely not offer anything more than the stuff the devs have out right now, the leaked builds are pretty much what we'll be seeing from T-Mobile.
Some people want official/supported ROMs for their contract phones.
If you don't like it you can stop responding and just STFU.
Those third-party ROMs all have issues and they are notorious for having worse battery life and stability than stock ROMs.
People like me don't wanna touch **** like that.
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Popularity/sales. There's articles on it. Look at the popularity of the Evo and compare it to the updates they get all the time. Makes sense. My question is...why are you same idiots on a forum for development *****ing about stock ota updates. If you don't mod your phone, what are you wasting your time here for? Just flash a froyo ROM and shutup. If you've been reading anything, you'd know that the official froyo will most likely not offer anything more than the stuff the devs have out right now, the leaked builds are pretty much what we'll be seeing from T-Mobile.
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I love the custom ROMS, and the biggest no-go for me is the loss of Thinkfree Office that comes free with the stock ROM, which I use frequently for work. Of course, there is a lot of crapware that I didn't miss, but when I realized that I lost that program and would have to pay to get it on a custom ROM, that was a dealbreaker. Also, I get tired of having to reconfigure my apps, address book, and contact linking every time I flashed my phone.
Time to go work on your reading comprehension.
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Some people want official/supported ROMs for their contract phones.
If you don't like it you can stop responding and just STFU.
Those third-party ROMs all have issues and they are notorious for having worse battery life and stability than stock ROMs.
People like me don't wanna touch **** like that.
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Yeah so far the best battery life are the Official leaked roms, any third party rom are just less stable and waste more battery.
After trying all the custom roms for the vibrant i just had to go back to the official, sadly that wasn't the case for N1.
The custom roms are nice but I like running the stock roms and loading themes from here on top of them. But if t mobile takes their sweet ass time with 2.3 then I will be running custom.
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Some people want official/supported ROMs for their contract phones.
If you don't like it you can stop responding and just STFU.
Those third-party ROMs all have issues and they are notorious for having worse battery life and stability than stock ROMs.
People like me don't wanna touch **** like that.
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You're very uniformed, the third party roms for vibrant are way more stable and bug free compared to the samsung garbage. Their programmers are terrible.
I've noticed that a lot of the bugs that come with custom roms are caused by flashing multiple roms one after another without a trip to Odin. I believe that ghosts of old roms are the reason there are huge inconsistencies in the bugs people report. I rarely have issues with TW and Eugene builds now that I revert to JFD with a repartition between flashes. Most of the issues that I do run into are caused by flaws in the leak itself (blurry mms, wifi calling app). Titanium restoring system settings, especially when moving between roms based off of different leaks, is another culprit. The main reason for the battery drains is the I9000 kernel. Once source gets dropped, kernels will be built off proper source and battery life should get better and there should be less issues. Just my 0.02. To each his own, but I still prefer the custom roms and I'm waiting for the actual update so Samsung finally has to release their source.
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You're very uniformed, the third party roms for vibrant are way more stable and bug free compared to the samsung garbage. Their programmers are terrible.
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First of all it "uninformed" not "uniformed" and these third party roms ARE NOT bug free. I have yet to find a rom where the MMS was bug free which is unbelievable to me. These developers can work magic on porting over all types of roms to these phone that technically shouldn't work on them but they can't make MMS work flawlessly. MMS is an important feature I need to work perfectly and that's one feature that has never worked (flawlessly) on any rom or any phone I have ever had. (My G1, Nexus, Vibrant, or MT4G). So now I always root my phones but keep them stock and just theme them to my liking.
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You're very uniformed, the third party roms for vibrant are way more stable and bug free compared to the samsung garbage. Their programmers are terrible.
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Notwithstanding who you are quoting, you are wrong. I don't put anything worse than the official release on my phone and that's usually what I get when I flash something from the Development section. It's usually extremely tacky too
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You're very uniformed, the third party roms for vibrant are way more stable and bug free compared to the samsung garbage. Their programmers are terrible.
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I have to disagree with you. Ive ran every rom from the android development and they all have bugs. Usually they start off fine but a couple days later bugs start to pop out. Most roms would be final if there were bugfree, besides app updates/tweaks.
All roms where installed after running Odin/stock
Problems I had with custom roms:
Minimum 3 freezes a day.
usually freeze during music playback
External sd card was hit or miss
Freezes during usb mount
Inconsistent battery life
custom kernels caused problems
Tons of lag on every rom/Needed lagfixes
Panic Mode(Never seen this until Customs Roms)
Odin every other day
Android Market problems
Data problems(needed to activate airplane mode on/off)
etc... Hate to admit it but my HD2 was more bugfree.
Its not the devs fault, they dont have much to work with but they are certainly not bugfree. My jk6 rom is running perfectly without the need for lagfixes or custom kernels. Only mod ive added was an accurate battery mod. I understand everyones phone is apparently different but I do suggest trying the newest one.
The only rom I could use day-to-day is TW roms.
You mean the extremely slow and bloated official releases. If you haven't noticed, a lot of the improvements made to manufacturer releases are based off custom roms here. Even Google kanged some of the stuff CM has been doing in Gingerbread?. The bugs that were squashed between Window Mobile 6.0 and 6.5 were squashed on XDA. If you like slow, stale and possibly less buggy, stick with the official releases. Many of us prefer bleeding edge enhancements
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It comes to mind that Samsung will not even consider updating the Vibrant until the Nexus S has been out for at least two weeks to a month. I believe they will just wait and try to entice more people to purchase the Nexus s (the longer the wait for 2.2 the more appealing Gingerbread is on the Nexus S.) I am not impressed with the specs on the Nexus S ( no sd card for starters). The Nexus S is due out on Dec. 16, 2010 so I am not looking for an official update to 2.2 till early next year, if then.
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It comes to mind that Samsung will not even consider updating the Vibrant until the Nexus S has been out for at least two weeks to a month. I believe they will just wait and try to entice more people to purchase the Nexus s (the longer the wait for 2.2 the more appealing Gingerbread is on the Nexus S.) I am not impressed with the specs on the Nexus S ( no sd card for starters). The Nexus S is due out on Dec. 16, 2010 so I am not looking for an official update to 2.2 till early next year, if then.
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I agree a million percent. Lucky for us we have dev support and the unofficial leak to pacify our wait. At least we not stuck on 2.1. I would rather the official release which should be lag free and have gps improvements.
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khulsey said:
The custom roms are nice but I like running the stock roms and loading themes from here on top of them. But if t mobile takes their sweet ass time with 2.3 then I will be running custom.
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yea im the same way.. i appreciate all the hard work from the devs and i do try the roms, but in the end i go back to stock.
I just sold a spare Fascinate that I had to one of the guys that runs http://www.mydroidworld.com/ He has a leaked copy of the official samsung gingerbread build for the fascinate. He needed a fascinate to test it on. He told me that he will test it tonight and post all his info on his site tomorrow. Keep an eye for it. If I get any more info I will post.
I believe this with every fiber of my being. I'm banking it all on this being real. Going for broke! (vegas odds)
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its for real, here is my craigslist ad that i met him with http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mob/2444423584.html
Sweet! I have 30 large riding on this. Can't wait!
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its for real, here is my craigslist ad that i met him with http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mob/2444423584.html
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pssh i would have bought it just to get ahold of that white battery door. i could use a nice change like that.
we will see what comes of this....i mean i could say there is a unicorn in my pocket when in reality its 32 cents in change.
hoping for the best tho
It was my girlfriends phone. She likes her iphone better so I tried to get what I could for this. He ended up paying 175, I wanted 200 originally.
Sounds like he was trying to get a better deal.
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Sounds like he was trying to get a better deal.
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is that p3droid? He said he was looking for a fascinate.. He was hoping to only pay 100. I volunteered to test but I guess he decided to buy a phone. I used his stuff on my droid x. Very smart dev. I hope this works out in our favor. TBH would be good to have supporting the fascinate.
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I just sold a spare Fascinate that I had to one of the guys that runs http://www.mydroidworld.com/ He has a leaked copy of the official samsung gingerbread build for the fascinate. He needed a fascinate to test it on. He told me that he will test it tonight and post all his info on his site tomorrow. Keep an eye for it. If I get any more info I will post.
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I don't mean to sound negative with this statement. But even if this does actually happen, I just have this strange inclination that this leak will have absolutely no benefit or bearing on the development of CM7 or GB MIUI or anything else that our devs are cooking up. Official froyo brought nothing as far as added functionality to the roms of that time and I just don't see a GB leak doing it either. Samsung's proprietary code SUCKS so bad that we can't hardly do anything with it. Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms. I would rather have AOSP froyo than GB TouchWiz. I just don't want us to set ourselves up for disappointment. Anything we get out of this leak will probably be a couple steps behind where we already are.
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I don't mean to sound negative with this statement. But even if this does actually happen, I just have this strange inclination that this leak will have absolutely no benefit or bearing on the development of CM7 or GB MIUI or anything else that our devs are cooking up. Official froyo brought nothing as far as added functionality to the roms of that time and I just don't see a GB leak doing it either. Samsung's proprietary code SUCKS so bad that we can't hardly do anything with it. Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms. I would rather have AOSP froyo than GB TouchWiz. I just don't want us to set ourselves up for disappointment. Anything we get out of this leak will probably be a couple steps behind where we already are.
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I don't dev, so I really have no clue, but wouldnt a gingerbread leak at least help get mms, sensors, and gps? and possibly lead to a more stable build?
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I don't dev, so I really have no clue, but wouldnt a gingerbread leak at least help get mms, sensors, and gps? and possibly lead to a more stable build?
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Not in terms of AOSP builds, no.
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Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying that because any official GB leak would be TouchWiz, it's worthless, which simply isn't true. A lot of us would be very happy with a Gingerbread KB or EF.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying because this is TouchWiz-based, it's worthless to everyone, which simply isn't true. A lot of people would be very happy if KB or EF were based on GB.
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Just my opinion. I hate touchwiz and after tasting CM7/MIUI and other AOSP goodness, it is pure suffering to go back to touchwiz. All I am saying is this doesn't excite me. We are trying to cut the cord of dependance from samsung/verizon for support by getting official support from Teamhacksung and Cyanogenmod and this leak probably won't help in the advancement of that. That is why I am not excited, but maybe and happily, I'll be proven wrong.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying that because any official GB leak would be TouchWiz, it's worthless, which simply isn't true. A lot of us would be very happy with a Gingerbread KB or EF.
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I am one of them. I would prefer the TW GB over AOSP roms.
Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP. I'm just loving my phone's performance... knowing how Sammy did TW Froyo just makes me leery of any GB they have going on.
I have more faith in the devs here than I do in Samsung.
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Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP.
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But that's my point -- some of us need MMS to work now, not just potentially in the future, so we don't have a choice yet. If we're stuck with TouchWiz, it would at least be nice to have the latest version of the OS, whether or not it helps AOSP developement.
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Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP. I'm just loving my phone's performance... knowing how Sammy did TW Froyo just makes me leery of any GB they have going on.
I have more faith in the devs here than I do in Samsung.
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well said and a very good point. TW is an atrocity. I understand the functionality argument and the need for it in the workplace but IMO TouchWiz itself, even fully functional, isn't functional because it's trash. I think anyone who has spent a halfway decent amount of time on AOSP and can stand a few things that don't work would agree with me. But again this is just my opinion and I don't mean to offend anyone. I'm not trying to get the next generation updated touchwiz, I'm hoping to do away with TW altogether with official Cyanogenmod/Teamhacksung support. I mean, with fully functioning AOSP, who would want/need TW?
The question I have is whether or not it is TW4. I'd give it a chance if it was. Still I'd ditch it for MIUI or CM7 once they are functional.
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The question I have is whether or not it is TW4. I'd give it a chance if it was. Still I'd ditch it for MIUI or CM7 once they are functional.
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A majority of us would jump ship for an AOSP 2.2 over TW 2.3. Plus in the end as soon as it drops there will be countless threads about Ice Cream Sandwich and when it is coming.
Most casual users are just concerned with what is shiny and new, evidence is in every UKB release.
I agree with Kid, in the end it is still going to be TW and the hype machine should not take this with to much hope.
I totally agree about cutting down on unrealistic hype, so let me ask this:
What, specifically, are the end-user (not developer) differences between running the latest Voodoo'd version of UKB and the latest version of jt's CM7 that lead you to say that a TouchWiz-based rom like UKB is a nonfunctional piece of trash?
I am thinking about finally rooting and romming my I337.. Which should I do? Why/Why Not?
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No brain'er here, CM. Google is to bland, basic, and is sluggish to me.
The Ax says, my opinion only.
TheAxman said:
No brain'er here, CM. Google is to bland, basic, and is sluggish to me.
The Ax says, my opinion only.
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I would say that opposite, cm has some nice features, but are not ready yet for an everyday phone with zero issues. Google edition is rock solid stable. Also some people, like myself, appreciate the barebones look of stock Android and don't want all the add-ons that come with cm
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I tried GE but missed CM features too much.
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I tried GE but missed CM features too much.
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Same. I tried GE for about 3 or 4 hour before reverting to a nandroid of my CM10.1 Hell I couldnt even turn off the Google Seach on the homescreen on it like I can with CM
IMHO Cm10.1 is very very stable now. Running it every day no issues at all for me.
When using GE, I didn't like not having the ability to change the quick settings pull-down options
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IMHO Cm10.1 is very very stable now. Running it every day no issues at all for me.
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I wholeheartedly agree. I had been rom hopping around all over the place, but have pretty much settled into CM.
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Thanks everyone... My buddy just got a true GE S4 and I am going to play with it but you have confirmed what I was thinking.
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Me personally I didnt like the CM roms. I think they are good just need a little more work to make them really shine. Now GE my phone ran amazing and had great battery life. If you like to customize heavily I think CM but if you want a phone that really shines on battery life GE.
The CM mods don't have the headphone microphone & audio working during phone calls.
I'm still contemplating which rom should I switch.. Which rooting method did you guys used?
My S4 is GT-i9505 (I9505XXUBMF8), I've read about Motochopper and CF method, which is safer and easier?
I used Casual 527b. It worked flawlessly.
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That is a good complete no brainer hahah. Cm10.1 is the same thing as GE
They are both aosp based hence look the same , act the same. However one has tons of features and one has almost no features. Cm10.1 really is better . And ... if you really like ge edition thqt much go download the sun beam live wallpaper and apply it on Cm10.1!!! Now it's google edition'd. Lol.
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kellwx said:
I'm still contemplating which rom should I switch.. Which rooting method did you guys used?
My S4 is GT-i9505 (I9505XXUBMF8), I've read about Motochopper and CF method, which is safer and easier?
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I have an I337m, so the boot loader is unlocked, I used Odin to flash CWM, then used that to flash the superSU zip file
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Thanks for posting the question OP. I'm a big fan of CM and I wish it was a simple answer. It's rather complicated. I came from the Evita (HTC One X) over to GS4 and I was wondering whether the GE would outshine CM. Currently I'm on CM10.2 nightlies (just arrived) with a nandroid of KangaBean GE backed up on my phone.
Basically, if you're coming from TW stock, you may love GE unconditionally and love it's rock solid stability. However if you've gotten a taste of CM, you're going to look at GE as a bit bare boned when it comes to features. I think the CM devs are brilliant but you'll have to contend with a few bugs in the nightlies here and there but that's not to say CM isn't a daily driver. On this device, it absolutely is good to go. CM also has literally has an army of devs adding new security features and new apps to enrich the experience (Focal and hopefully in the near future, Chomecast). GE isn't doing that at all and you're really relying on a couple of devs teaming up and trying to add mods to enrich the experience.
Also regarding updates, the CM team is absolutely committed to keeping you on the bleeding edge. If you noticed, Android 4.3 dropped and the CM team SWARMED on it. The Github was a mess for a few weeks but they essentially ripped it all apart and put it back together in a very short period. Now they're on 4.3/CM10.2 nightlies for most devices. On the other hand, if you think just because you have a GE phone you're going to get the latest updates you're in for a rude awakening. It wasn't billed as a Nexus device so don't expect updates on that level. Hopefully GE updates drop earlier than the TW updates so the devs can get their hands on them for you but I'm not holding my breath on that one. To be honest, I think you're more likely to see the next version of Android come from CyanogenMod.
So you just have to pick your poison. I think I'm going to restore KangaBean today but I'll likely be back on CM before the day is over.
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First of all, did your phone already update to MF3? if so your only option is rooting at this point the Loki exploit was patched in MF3 and your likely SOL when it comes to custom roms, possibly permanently, bootloader workarounds or unlocks are tough and I haven't seen any signs of progress on that front around here on XDA
If you want a rom that is a stable excellent daily driver go with GPe rom, no issues or lag whatsoever.
If you want to be on the bleeding edge, use CM but it still has some pretty big bugs at this point, they don't even have a milestone release at this point I don't think, it's just nightlies. There will be issues
The few extra features aren't worth the bugs imho, I don't mess with CM until they get to a RC for my device, (occasionally I've give a milestone release a try) because the bugs bother me.
I'd rather have stability over features that I rarely use.
Most people on XDA tend to overlook a lot of small and sometimes big bugs with very early releases of AOSP roms like CM and AOKP
Casual was super easy and that's what I used to root, though I swapped out TWRP for clockwork recovery as it has auto-loki
Please detail these "big bugs".
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Please detail these "big bugs".
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Now when you were on CM did you ever make it to CM 11 M8 Build. I really enjoy that ROM on my s4 but I have better luck using Dan's 4.4.4 GPE ROM. its way more stable. I really want to love CM because I believe they have so much going for them but I have too many issues. Plus battery life is not amazing. No horrible but not amazing.
I'm trying to decide between the G2 and Note 3. Obviously both have their plus and minus points but what will sway it for me is the dev action with vanilla ROMs.
I know it's early days for the G2, and N3 isn't even out yet, but I'd like opinions on whether G2 is gonna get much love in this respect? Did the LG Optimus G Pro get much? Also any other factors preventing this, such as locked bootloaders, etc. I will be looking at getting the UK version.
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A super alpha (more proof of concept) cm10.1 just went up today.
Wow great news to hear there is a CM build for this already, even if it is a really buggy early alpha right now. It will get better.
I think that if the Nexus 5 is in fact what we have been seeing the past few days in the FCC papers then the G2 will also get some great AOSP love since the hardware itself is near identical, the physical form factor is what is changed.
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I'm trying to decide between the G2 and Note 3. Obviously both have their plus and minus points but what will sway it for me is the dev action with vanilla ROMs.
I know it's early days for the G2, and N3 isn't even out yet, but I'd like opinions on whether G2 is gonna get much love in this respect? Did the LG Optimus G Pro get much? Also any other factors preventing this, such as locked bootloaders, etc. I will be looking at getting the UK version.
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I don't have enough posts to post in that thread, but I'm on board with this effort. I'll gladly help with getting a fully function CM port running; doing so will also effectively complete the groundwork for a true Nexus-like vanilla AOSP build.
I'm a professional developer who works with desktop C++ and embedded linux, hacked on and rolled my own kernel drivers, etc. My plan is to make this my weekend project and hammer out ABI/proprietary binary issues to get a build of either CM or AOSP fully functional. Odds are good that the release of the N5 will make this process substantially easier as it will share a very similar hardware platform and include binaries linked against the latest kernels for KitKat.
I am excite.
I had been running Carbon ROM on my GNex and loved the AOSPness of it, but have to admit, I kinda enjoy some of the LG stuff. Would love LG + AOSP rom including things like tap-tap and the camera (although I miss Photosphere)
AOSP ROMS!!
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I had been running Carbon ROM on my GNex and loved the AOSPness of it, but have to admit, I kinda enjoy some of the LG stuff. Would love LG + AOSP rom including things like tap-tap and the camera (although I miss Photosphere)
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Man, I would love some AOSP ROMs for this phone. I agree that the knock-knock on/off is a nice feature, but I need vanilla Android. This LG skin is just too much for me!
Bring on the AOSP guys!
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Man, I would love some AOSP ROMs for this phone. I agree that the knock-knock on/off is a nice feature, but I need vanilla Android. This LG skin is just too much for me!
Bring on the AOSP guys!
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You just have to wait patiently. Barely 2 weeks ago CM10.2 went up for the G Pro finally, and since then, you simply have to look in the Original Devleopment forum to see what has happened. Literally, a dozen AOSP 4.2 and 4.3 ROMs popped up, all perfectly functional.
Just wait and contribute all you can and we'll all see AOSP soon.
I'm really looking into the g2 being my next device. However..... If it can't have a fully functional PACman ROM ported over, I'm out then.
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I will have to learn to progam now lol
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A super alpha (more proof of concept) cm10.1 just went up today.
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Where? I would download it just to play around lol.