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V6 SuperCharger

I have tested the V6 SuperCharger along the week and I noticed a really good performance using the Brazil Retail 2.3.6 ROM.
the battery gets a little hot
Here is my settings:
9. MegaRAM 2 w/512mb {6,12,75,100,125,150 mb}
11. OOM Grouping Fixes + Hard To Kill Launcher
For more information, visit this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276)
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150MB? Why? Free ram is wasted ram.

BluPix said:
150MB? Why? Free ram is wasted ram.
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I agree with you in parts when you say free ram is wasted ram cause free ram is used to improve system performance. But, according to those links (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20163493&postcount=6695 / http://www.rt-embedded.com/blog/archives/linux-memory-consumption/) the almost full usage of ram doesn't bring any benefits as damage in multitasking as well.
The way is to find the free ram level because below it, some apps, launchers and...why not, the whole system starts to freeze and above it doesn't improve anything.
Answering you question: I had tested all values and, in my opinion, they are the best.
Did you try with other values? What did you think?

My apologies, i looked to V6 SuperCharger script few days ago, i think i didn't fully understand what this values do.
Now i'm using ms2toobox's "Positive" settings (96MB). And i have now 24MB free ram. So it's not 96MB of wasted space. Maybe 150MB isn't so bad.

If you have 100mb free (according to task managers), it's giving you idle ram+ buffers+cached apps.
If you type the free command in terminal, you will see how much is really free - way less than you think.
The engine flush script will actually show you both stats, before and after flushing

Just tried it with setting 7.
I am going to try setting 11, too and report how it goes in a while
Is anyone else using it?

I'm using it with MegaRAM 1 setting on ICS with the new patch released for ICS by zeppelinrox. But the settings don't seem to stick after reboot.

sahilarora911 said:
I'm using it with MegaRAM 1 setting on ICS with the new patch released for ICS by zeppelinrox. But the settings don't seem to stick after reboot.
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u can check this running the script again (first option).

i installed v6 on defy+ but every time it shows 50% supercharged how to increase it to 100% ?

mmanojkry said:
i installed v6 on defy+ but every time it shows 50% supercharged how to increase it to 100% ?
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which version u r usingfor defy ..try the latest one .. here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
second thing if u r on ics thn u need to read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
3rd if u r on non-ics roms .. check if u hv installed kick ass kernel and lag nullifier ..

I've been using this for over a month now, and I can say I definitely noticed an increase in smoothness
Not sure about the battery consumption, probably didn't affect it

mmanojkry said:
i installed v6 on defy+ but every time it shows 50% supercharged how to increase it to 100% ?
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If you're running Quarx ICS, then don't bother with v6 as it created more lag than it fixed. I say that because I have used it on Quarx ICS 05\12 (Bravo) with full 100% supercharged and had mixed results. Kickass Kernelizer and 3G Turbocharger (use Experimental 1) are highly recommended for Quarx ICS. I highly recommend installing my DroidX Governor Pack before using Kickass since DX Gov's install the SIO IO scheduler as well as the Gov's. If you're using Epsy's latest CM9, then the Gov Pack is still necessary since the bootmenu values for SIO are incorrect. Quarx fixed it yesterday, but there hasn't been a rom built yet with the correct fixes yet.
If your on Quarx or Epsy CM7, you really need to use this.
Since I make it a point to use Kickass Kernelizer, 3g, and v6 on almost all my roms, come by the Bravo Forums, since I only come over here to see if there are any problems with my DroidX Governors, and I'll help where I can.

For discussion GB VS ICS in performance ..

Hi all
i used a lot of ICS roms here but it seemed to be bad in gameing and not fast as the GB ..
Is this the problem of ICS ????
when I use GB i play a heavy games with no problem , but in ICS it is laggy and i need to overclock the cpu to play .. even though still laggy ..
also in the performance , i see the GB is much better and smooth than ICS ..
I am now back to GB but I missed the ICS ..
It will be better if there is a hyberd rom that is contain GB and ICS togather ..
so in your opinion : what is the problem ??
is it from ICS ?? or the arc is weak to get good ICS ???

Neither the arc, nor the arc s is too weak.
Let's take my HTC Wildfire S as instance:
600 MHz SC CPU
512 MB RAM (400 useable, btw this is more than on arc (s))
CM9 runs perfectly smoothly. Also the new xperia lineup has 800 MHz phones which have the new timescape gui and ICS.
I think the problem are insufficient drivers or just a *****y programming with memleaks.
The amount of free RAM is also a reason.

everyone has their own definition of what is smooth. as for me, i define it as:
1. Fling of homescreens and applications on stock launcher is solid iPhone-like even with widgets on a non-live wallpaper. The smoothness that would not let you think of Jelly Bean at all.
2. Basic applications critical for phone use like Contacts, Messaging, Browser should also be as smooth as number 1 above.
3. Temple Run Brave while in the gameplay, no lost frames and instant response on swipes. Reason is not for gaming, but means the phone will behave smoothly on heavy processing.
Since everyone has different opinion on smoothness, nobody can tell that their phone is smoothest.
What I can say though is that on any ICS ROM I have tried, nothing meets my 3 criteria above. Hence I stick with Gingerbread.
I am critical and allergic to laggy interface / phone. Destroys the experience, makes you insecure of other phones.

I installed "Jellybread" by omenHTX today and it's great Gingerbread Stuff! You should give it a shot
After so many bad experiences with ICS I am really glad someone focused on GB again
Greetings!
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theq86 said:
Neither the arc, nor the arc s is too weak.
Let's take my HTC Wildfire S as instance:
600 MHz SC CPU
512 MB RAM (400 useable, btw this is more than on arc (s))
CM9 runs perfectly smoothly. Also the new xperia lineup has 800 MHz phones which have the new timescape gui and ICS.
I think the problem are insufficient drivers or just a *****y programming with memleaks.
The amount of free RAM is also a reason.
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I was thinking about it and I think the problem is from Sony itself
maybe they give us a garbage update to feel that our phone is outdated to Chang it ..

UI Smoothness is more than acceptable on Arconium ICS but the phone is simply just too slow in the performance department, so it lags a lot - on both ICS and GB. Stock GB was just a small tad faster than Arconium ICS and significantly faster than stock ICS.
The biggest difference was the animation smoothness though, because the phone lacks performance under GB too - the processor runs at 100% for a few seconds until it launches some heavier apps, and with ICS even basic apps like youtube became heavy.

jtdc said:
everyone has their own definition of what is smooth. as for me, i define it as:
1. Fling of homescreens and applications on stock launcher is solid iPhone-like even with widgets on a non-live wallpaper. The smoothness that would not let you think of Jelly Bean at all.
2. Basic applications critical for phone use like Contacts, Messaging, Browser should also be as smooth as number 1 above.
3. Temple Run Brave while in the gameplay, no lost frames and instant response on swipes. Reason is not for gaming, but means the phone will behave smoothly on heavy processing.
Since everyone has different opinion on smoothness, nobody can tell that their phone is smoothest.
What I can say though is that on any ICS ROM I have tried, nothing meets my 3 criteria above. Hence I stick with Gingerbread.
I am critical and allergic to laggy interface / phone. Destroys the experience, makes you insecure of other phones.
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so i think the problem is from ics

Back to Gingerbread

I've noticed a lot of talk about Jelly Bean and ICS being slow on the Nexus S. So, has anyone reverted back to Gingerbread? It's been so long, I don't even remember what GB is like.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2

Ulver said:
I've noticed a lot of talk about Jelly Bean and ICS being slow on the Nexus S. So, has anyone reverted back to Gingerbread? It's been so long, I don't even remember what GB is like.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2
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Yep, I use Bugeless GPA19, stock kernel is OK, but if you want 30mb more of free RAM use Glados 1.12.

Nope. If you keep your running apps under control I believe Jellybean is just right on the Nexus S. =)

Ulver said:
I've noticed a lot of talk about Jelly Bean and ICS being slow on the Nexus S. So, has anyone reverted back to Gingerbread? It's been so long, I don't even remember what GB is like.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2
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2 days ago i tried GB again, its not that much faster...

The only thing faster in gingerbread was installing apps and opening up search.
Jelly bean has vsync so you dont get screen tearing which was everywhere in GB, apps open up quicker in JB, the camera is much faster, the browser is much smoother and last but not least the stock launcher never crawls to a halt like it sometimes used to in GB and had to be restarted. I am not talking about launcher redrawing but in GB sometimes it would just start stuttering from one home screen to another and had to be restarted.
And I may not remember correctly this one but kinetic scrolling seems faster and smoother in JB than I had ever experienced before in ICS and GB.
The one area of disappointment for people comes from gaming. Well an OS with so many more features is obviously going to take more ram and games are going to get more and more demanding so it is not unreasonable that a new OS makes the phone a less capable gaming device.

Yeesh! I used to have GB. I cannot go back there after running JB. Just CANNOT!
It's like using iOS or BADA.
My NS runs JB smoothly. No flicker no lag. Using Jellybro Rom.

How can you say no, look at the quadrant results
GB (no oc) - 2500
JB (no oc) - 1250
RAM left (same number of running apps)
GB -160-180M
JB - 90-110M

I would never let a quadrant change my view of an os! Im using black bean with matr1x and dont have anything to complain! Gb is ugly and i believe it wasnt faster! As a matter of fact, my phone doesnt feel slow at all...

fieldside99 said:
How can you say no, look at the quadrant results
GB (no oc) - 2500
JB (no oc) - 1250
RAM left (same number of running apps)
GB -160-180M
JB - 90-110M
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Quadrant is the worst benchmark to go by... A monkey high on PCP can alter i/o scores. And GB not using available RAM is actually a bad thing and will slow things down.

fieldside99 said:
How can you say no, look at the quadrant results
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Please people, forget about listing synthetic benchmark results as a ultimate measure of the phone. Nobody cares if GB scores twice as much points in Yet Another Very Accurate Benchmark, when JB feels faster and more responsible in everyday usage.

I haven't even thought of downgrading. Why switch to an old out of date unsupported OS When you have access to the most current.
I think the prob might be in your choice of ROMS/kernels try AOKP or Slim with AIR BigMem and freeze or remove the system apps you don't use. Has been working great here. No complaints.
Sent from my phone using my thumbs and a keyboard

I could not go back to Gingerbread after JB, it would be like riding a stallion and then going back to a donkey. The JB interface is so much better than GB and using BlackBean 6 I have no lag at all and it's so smooth!

I agree jelly bean is slightly faster then gb as im users who use over 160+ apps and notice in each faster from 360 mb to 380 ram of 512 use. I have 140 mb left on jelly bean compare to 80 on ginger.
Another thing is when u have no apps download your phone have JB 240 mb free of 360-380 of ram the os show.
GB It was about 210 mb ram left free and 150-70 mb used up for apps preinstalled. 230 mb for os overall.
Like my bionic have 840 mb of ram of it 1,024 mb of ram

Single core
guyz jb and ics are optimised for multi cores.
GB is the best for single cores.

are you sure?
back to Gingerbread?
if you looking for stability and speed, JellyBean it is..
I know.. ICS is a bit sucks..especially 4.0.3
but JellyBean? it's awesome...really awesome...
forget about benchmark scores..it's just pain in a butt, LOL
as long as you run your apps smooth.. what's the benchmark score for?
unless you're the benchmark geek

nexussgeek said:
guyz jb and ics are optimised for multi cores.
GB is the best for single cores.
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Best in what aspect?

I'm on JB now and sometimes considering going back to ICS, but I have zero desire to go back to anything else. ICS is the first version of Android that I feel I can use stock, with regards to performance, UI design and functionality. JB is a smoother ICS, with the caveat of faster battery drain.

Jb just need ram. 512 mo is the minimum i think.
envoyé de puis mon Nexus s, aiiiiight ! (Michel rules the world)

I tried going back to ICS once, and couldn't do it. I certainly couldn't go back to GB. Too many nice features have been added that I just wouldn't be able to live without ...

I have some Pros of GingerB
*GB battery life is much better than JB. Specially in standby.
*Animations are faster (feels much faster)
*Scrolling is faster
*More available memory at boot.
However JellyB Software is awesome, I love it on my GN and N7. However for the Nexus S I use GB, it isn't fancy but gets all the job done and excellent battery life.

[Q] Memory management in ICS ROMs

I have a question mainly for developpers.
Playing around with severals ICS CM9 ROMS, I noticed big differences in Antutu RAM benchmark score.
A first family of ROM reach 330 in RAM score (CM9 nightlies, ...)
A second family of ROM reach 530 in RAM score (CM9ight,iCyanogen).
This is a huge difference.
I've done some tests, and the difference don't come from kernel, from build.prop, from framework.
So the question is : from what does it come ?... some libs ?...
Thank you to developpers that read me ... any ideas ???

As a user and not developer, there is no problem with consuming more RAM.... as long as the Rom... is ruining smooth and fast...
Jelly bean uses even more RAM than ICS
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk 2

Jelly bean vs gingerbread gaming and performance

Hi everyone I am currently running the NXT LE rom v1.3. I have tried various other roms but I find that this is the best one so far. Can you guys compare various roms and see which is better for gaming and performance, Jelly Bean (with new adreno drivers) or Gingerbread. Thanks
Every one list:
Kernel
Rom
Take Antutu Benchmark of your rom

from my experience, gingerbread is still the best android version for the xperia play
NXT LE with gin2jb theme,
Latest doomlord gb kernel
At 1017 Mhz
Score: 4288

Thinks too that a modified gingerbread is still the best choice for my Play. I saw that some guys got a bit higher Benchmark score on JellyBean but that doesn't mean that it is better for gaming. I really wish that more devs would pay more attention to GB.
Doomkernel v.14
DiXperia2
Antutu B. 6161 @ 1.8 Ghz.

Um........good point. But people are saying that with the new Adreno drivers that ICS and JB for gaming are better than GB. I only use my xperia play for gaming, so I have been looking for a rom designed for gaming, so far the best is NXT Light in my opinion. If anyone finds other please post

SICKNOSIS said:
Um........good point. But people are saying that with the new Adreno drivers that ICS and JB for gaming are better than GB. I only use my xperia play for gaming, so I have been looking for a rom designed for gaming, so far the best is NXT Light in my opinion. If anyone finds other please post
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I already tried some ics/jb roms but the performance wasnt that what i was looking for, id stick with gb
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Come now, let's not keep talking about 'I think that, I think this'.
Let's start showing from numbers from Nenamark 2, since it's purely gaming you guys want. When you're done, just delete/wtv.
Let us start with a few ground rules:
1.0GHz Performance governer ONLY.
I/O schedule = whatever since it shouldn't matter much.
State whether you're using GB/JB.
Here's mine.
[JB]
1st run : 30.7 fps
2nd run : 31.4 fps
3rd run : 31.4 fps
4th run : 31.8 fps
5th run : 31.5 fps
ROM: SlimBean by cj360
Antutu
--1Ghz
Total : 5005
2D : 522
3D : 1950
--1.8Ghz (to align with above post clock)
Total : 6330
2D : 538
3D : 1959

I have a locked bootloader so no fancy kernels or overclocking, but I'm sure it could serve as a base to compare performance.
Nenamark 2 [GB]
First run: 14.0 fps
Second run: 13.6 fps
Third run: 14.0 fps
Fourth run: 14.2 fps
Fifth run: 14.1 fps
ROM: Xperia NXT Light Edition by Kris Dee v.1.3

Newest Adreno drivers for ICS/JB makes a huge difference albeit the RAM consumption is higher.

jcarbox said:
Newest Adreno drivers for ICS/JB makes a huge difference albeit the RAM consumption is higher.
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It was actually reported lower many times.

sewer56lol said:
It was actually reported lower many times.
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Comparation nenamark2 score between default and update adreno driver on xperia neo l ics rom on my play, on default driver about 26 fps but on update driver about 31 fps.
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Kernel: DooMKerneL
Unlocked Bootloader
Running at 1ghz on performance governor
Running Supercharger script too
Here's mine.
[GB]
1st run : 13.2 fps
2nd run : 13.4 fps
3rd run : 13.0 fps
4th run : 13.3 fps
5th run : 13.2 fps
ROM: Xperia NXT Light Edition by Kris Dee v.1.3

jabberwocky_one said:
Come now, let's not keep talking about 'I think that, I think this'.
Let's start showing from numbers from Nenamark 2, since it's purely gaming you guys want. When you're done, just delete/wtv.
Let us start with a few ground rules:
1.0GHz Performance governer ONLY.
I/O schedule = whatever since it shouldn't matter much.
State whether you're using GB/JB.
Here's mine.
[JB]
1st run : 30.7 fps
2nd run : 31.4 fps
3rd run : 31.4 fps
4th run : 31.8 fps
5th run : 31.5 fps
ROM: SlimBean by cj360
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WOW!!!! Your scores are much higher than mine and "aitmanga"'s scores. So I guess JB is much better for gaming, right?

Now I'm quite skeptical about that methodology. x2 more fps? I don't think so.
Anyone have any other idea on test methods? Antutu and quadrant scores aren't really useful unless you state the graphics score breakdown.
Edit: updated previous post with antutu for what it's worth.

I installed the SlimBean rom and tried Gta 3, it is no where as smooth as the nxt light rom ive been using, but the benchmark is like 29!!! Which is more than double my score on nxt light, but in real life performance JB is not as good as GB!! Even though the benchmarks show that it is
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Well, some games are bottlenecked by the GPU and others by the CPU. There's no general rule like 'if one game doubles its framerate, every game should be the same' so GTA3 can be CPU limited.
Probably Nenamark is very GPU intensive and a optimized GPU driver can do wonders but each game has its own CPU-GPU balance.

jabberwocky_one said:
Come now, let's not keep talking about 'I think that, I think this'.
Let's start showing from numbers from Nenamark 2, since it's purely gaming you guys want. When you're done, just delete/wtv.
Let us start with a few ground rules:
1.0GHz Performance governer ONLY.
I/O schedule = whatever since it shouldn't matter much.
State whether you're using GB/JB.
Here's mine.
[JB]
1st run : 30.7 fps
2nd run : 31.4 fps
3rd run : 31.4 fps
4th run : 31.8 fps
5th run : 31.5 fps
ROM: SlimBean by cj360
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Lol, scores are almost same as on my setup.
Kernel is turbo jb from cosmicdan
Rom - pac from wedgess
1ghz performance
31.4 fps
1,6 performance
33,4 fps
Sent from my R800i using xda premium

ROM : NXT 1.3 LE
Kernel : Doomkernel v14
Antutu benchmark : [email protected],2ghz
Not too bad..
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4.0.2.A.0.58 Enhanced V2
Kernel : Doomkernel v14
Antutu v3.0.3 benchmark : [email protected] performance (normally set [email protected] ondemand)
not too bad even playing zombiewood smoothly, as long as you got enough free ram & set VM Heap size to 96m-128m

Devastator004
SICKNOSIS said:
Um........good point. But people are saying that with the new Adreno drivers that ICS and JB for gaming are better than GB. I only use my xperia play for gaming, so I have been looking for a rom designed for gaming, so far the best is NXT Light in my opinion. If anyone finds other please post
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I would have agreed wih u and up unill i came across jb slim I thought that nxt light was the best jb slim bean it the only rom which is really come near to perfection the only downfall is that u cannot record but u can use the camera to take pictures via app from play store for free. and all the other features work to perfection u can overclock to 1.6ghz to play certain games which are too slow to play 4 exmple modern combact 4. also u can download games from google play store for free which arent even supose to be working on xperia play like shadow gun dead zone and all this is not even he best part when u flash it normally u get atleast 550mb internall free well thats becasue how small the actual rom it self is also this is the least laggyiest rom plus if u like to listen to music then it has apollo music player bonus points so despite the loss of the recording feature it overall makes up in compare to every other feature. :good: if u are inerested i personally tested it on xperia play r800i alos thishas been tested on r800x the link to this is if u are intersed that is :laugh::fingers-crossed::highfive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35493383

for gaming i recomend - Jellyzeus (JB) or CM9.1 (ICS) - both can run GTA VC really smoth on low settings (25%distance / 50%textures, all other low or off) ...
if you buy xperia play for hard gaming, i recomend - NXT Light Ed. - its best...
but if you play games like wheres my water / angry birds, and want JB, its a good choice...