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SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed

SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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jay_993 said:
SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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As far as speed, stability and batterylife goes, my stock unrooted SGS2 knocks my old cm7-sgs out of the game. Simply put, its awesome.
PS: Can't wait to put CM7 on it though

SGS II will be better as it has better hardware - e.g. dual core processor, more memory etc

GrimmVarg said:
As far as speed, stability and batterylife goes, my stock unrooted SGS2 knocks my old cm7-sgs out of the game. Simply put, its awesome.
PS: Can't wait to put CM7 on it though
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Wow i cant imagine how fast it is...
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jay_993 said:
SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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remember, most people test speed by how fast quadrant runs. Best thing to do is to test them both yourself.

is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?

is no way that sgs will be faster then sgs2..
sgs with 1 core sgs 2 with dual core...

_delice_doluca_ said:
is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?
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Not really. It's faster, but not like WAY FASTER.

CM7 is not much quicker than for example JVP. I ran both for quite some time now and I think I'll stick with sammy rom since I want to be able to take 720p video's and use fm radio.
Also battery life is a bit of a deal breaker for me.
OT. Sure sgs2 will be faster especially when sgs2+cm7 (when available)

_delice_doluca_ said:
is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?
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It was much faster until gingerbread, now the difference is not significant IMHO

i wondered and tried, i guess there is no big difference.. besides i believe the main difference comes with a good optimized software.. sgs 2 should be %45-50 faster than sgs on hardware but i think its rom is better optimized than sgs rom..

Bavaria85 said:
CM7 is not much quicker than for example JVP. I ran both for quite some time now and I think I'll stick with sammy rom since I want to be able to take 720p video's and use fm radio.
Also battery life is a bit of a deal breaker for me.
OT. Sure sgs2 will be faster especially when sgs2+cm7 (when available)
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I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.

mr_at_sgs said:
I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.
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Thats why i used the word instant on op as well
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mr_at_sgs said:
I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.
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Haven't tried JVP. But, tbh , never noticed that much speed difference between CM7 and stock GB.
However, stock GB, seemed to lag over a period of time, which didn't happen for me in CM7, while I was using it.
I have tried Galaxy S 2 (two models), one (probably because it already had quite a few apps and data), was not very smooth , esp. noticeable when loading gallery (took around 4s)...
The other one was super smooth and much faster than CM7..

I think my Sgs phone is quicker than my mates SGS II when using galician kernel at 1.4Ghz, man its quick
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melorib said:
It was much faster until gingerbread, now the difference is not significant IMHO
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+1
Best description.
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Oh.. I would love to have SGS2.. Viewing its speed in compare with speedest SGS... Like i7 vs Core2Duo ...

get new life on your SGS with the galaxian kernel, and wait for SGS III early 2012, rumoured to have dual core 2Ghz cores, nfc, whoaa, will replace your laptop
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gsw5700 said:
get new life on your SGS with the galaxian kernel, and wait for SGS III early 2012, rumoured to have dual core 2Ghz cores, nfc, whoaa, will replace your laptop
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How amazing would it be if the so called SGS3 was as hackable as an hd2!
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Hrithan2020 said:
Haven't tried JVP. But, tbh , never noticed that much speed difference between CM7 and stock GB.
However, stock GB, seemed to lag over a period of time, which didn't happen for me in CM7, while I was using it.
I have tried Galaxy S 2 (two models), one (probably because it already had quite a few apps and data), was not very smooth , esp. noticeable when loading gallery (took around 4s)...
The other one was super smooth and much faster than CM7..
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To be more precise, Stock Samsung ROMs are fast after install. But with a lot of apps installed there is too less memory, because mostly usefull apps are reserving memory space in background. If I use aggressive memory configurations some important apps like launcher, phone and contact are thrown out of memory. This occurs also if I delete some crap at system. With Froyo this issue wasn't so much present like with Gingerbread.

Stock 4.0.3 scored 900 only

I tried a full benchmarking usijg quadrant app. And it only scores 899. No kernel just a 4.0.3 stock rom. Oh God. I dont want this. 5k will be good. LOL
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And still it is 10 times smoother than the AOSP roms that scored 2400. Time to forget Quadrant guys.

Quadrant scores don't matter one last bit. It's the UX you get while using the phone that matters, and as ICS is at least as smooth as GB there should be no need to complain about some test scores.

and another thing is that Quadrant is still isn't optimized for ICS I remember when GB was released it wasn't optimized for GB also ... =] havn't u seen how low scores Galaxy nexus got on quadrant? it's simply because it isn't properly supported nothing else =] and yea scores don't even matter ICS running smooth as silk =]

It is smooth as hell except when you open the center which has the applications and widgets, kinda laggy
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benchmark question

Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks

cuzzo94 said:
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Were both ROMs nand or SD? Cause the difference could be in the io speeds. You should post screen shots of both results
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Yes it's normal because the phone devotes more resources to hwa, which is what makes your games fast. Phones get relatively lower quadrant score on ics. So it's not accurate to compare it if you changed os version. If you want, you can easily boost the score by ~1000 by installing data2sd, but you need a good SD card to feel the difference yourself.

cuzzo94 said:
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Really?! Just goes to show, benchmarks aren't a valid way of proving speed. Perhaps it is as hengsheng120 said due to the HWA or something. Either way, ICS is definitely faster than Froyo.

yes as said, for me too ics is faster thank froyo, i just wasn't sure of the reason of this gap.
i don't think that it wold make any difference installing data2sd because of my old sd.
i agree with who thinks that hwa is making this difference, and that is an invalid information to compare OS's. ics is certainly faster with scrolling (the web browsing it's awesome) and 3d.
thank you all and sorry for my english XD

cuzzo94 said:
yes as said, for me too ics is faster thank froyo, i just wasn't sure of the reason of this gap.
i don't think that it wold make any difference installing data2sd because of my old sd.
i agree with who thinks that hwa is making this difference, and that is an invalid information to compare OS's. ics is certainly faster with scrolling (the web browsing it's awesome) and 3d.
thank you all and sorry for my english XD
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Actually, your English is pretty good. Yeah, even if I could get a score of 10000 on Froyo I'd never consider ditching ICS for it

yes while using them you can clearly see that ics beats froyo all the way XD

SGS GPU acceleration for UI?

Hi,
I´ve read that ICS has GPU acceleration for the UI implemented as a standard. Is there really a difference in smoothness compared to custom gb roms? I´m talking about the i9001. But it should be the same as with the i9000
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Lekor

Can't tell the difference.
I'm on RemICS v1.2 with Devil Kernel 3.0.72. I set GPU from stock 200MHz to OC at 250MHz and I can't tell the difference. But the Kernel developer did say it may not work. Still experimental.

Afaik no big difference, although our GPU is powerful. Maybe stock ROM has other imorovements, so the boost isn't good to feel on ICS.

Samurai05 said:
I'm on RemICS v1.2 with Devil Kernel 3.0.72. I set GPU from stock 200MHz to OC at 250MHz and I can't tell the difference. But the Kernel developer did say it may not work. Still experimental.
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GPU OC isn't same as GPU accelerated UI
And yes ICS should benefit from it..but can't really remember anyone GB times if there has been some speed gain..
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Yeah it does, but i reckon that ICS is really unpolished with it.

Running slim with the latest semaphore and I can definitely say this is the slickest my phone has been, but that is just my opinion
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Lekor2k said:
Hi,
I´ve read that ICS has GPU acceleration for the UI implemented as a standard. Is there really a difference in smoothness compared to custom gb roms? I´m talking about the i9001. But it should be the same as with the i9000
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Lekor
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There are apks that use the gpu. In custom roms i saw that this is true on i9001

The stock browser in 2.3.6 uses GPU acceleration. There are other apps also, but not the OS UI.
In 4.0 custom rom it should work in the apps when you enable the option from the developer options.

No difference. Everything using 8 mb more ram with 200mhz GPU acceleration.
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burakgon said:
No difference. Everything using 8 mb more ram with 200mhz GPU acceleration.
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Bro, just upgraded my i9000 to ice and forced gpu acceleration.
Man even on the xda app itself I can see a marginal difference in smoothness.
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it has an option force gpu rendering that uses 2d hardware acceleration in applications...and you have to set it manual...but dont know if it rly helps in smoothness i think it depends more on the rom then to have this gpu option

MrAndroid12 said:
Bro, just upgraded my i9000 to ice and forced gpu acceleration.
Man even on the xda app itself I can see a marginal difference in smoothness.
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Because it's cyanogen. You can see it's even faster on cm7.
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I see an awful lot of people saying it offers no improvements. Personally, I think it does.
I keep my phone up to date as much as possible. When ICS was stable, I jumped right in. I haven't ran Gingerbread in a long, long time—but from what I remember, it had some lag. Android, in fact, was known for this lag. You couldn't read an iOS vs Android debate without this lag being mentioned (at least when Gingerbread was the newest). And I had tried everything: every lag fix, every tweak, every ROM, every kernel, governer, scheduler, OCing, UVing—I tried it all. But I still remember there being lag.
Now I'm in the present. I've been running ICS since it was stable and, quite frankly, I don't notice that lag. I mean, yes, my phone does still lag—if I'm doing something processor intensive in the background—but not like my memories of Gingerbread. Back then, it would lag scrolling through my list of apps; it would lag doing menial UI rendering without anything running in the background. That simply does not happen anymore. Not in my experiences. Not with ICS.
Granted, as I did in Gingbread, I do in ICS—I've applied every fix, every tweak, and every possible software combination that I could get my hands on. I've tried every ROM, every kernel, every setting imaginable. And I do this because I've been thoroughly impressed by the community here at XDA. This device of ours is over 2 years old now. But the software progression does not stop. We move forward as if the hardware was built just yesterday. And I have to tell you, our phone is keeping up—it really is. My phone is faster than a lot of my peers, even with some of them having much newer hardware. And I honestly don't feel I could have said any of this if I had stayed far behind with Gingerbread.
Everyone wants a new phone. It's newer, better, faster. But what they don't realize is that software can fulfill a majority of their wants. It is a continuous improvement, however gradual it may be. To not want to upgrade your software is like not wanting to upgrade your phone. And let's be honest, who doesn't want a new phone—one that's newer, better, and faster—without ever having to buy one.
I do. And that's why I update my phone. But maybe that's just me.

For discussion GB VS ICS in performance ..

Hi all
i used a lot of ICS roms here but it seemed to be bad in gameing and not fast as the GB ..
Is this the problem of ICS ????
when I use GB i play a heavy games with no problem , but in ICS it is laggy and i need to overclock the cpu to play .. even though still laggy ..
also in the performance , i see the GB is much better and smooth than ICS ..
I am now back to GB but I missed the ICS ..
It will be better if there is a hyberd rom that is contain GB and ICS togather ..
so in your opinion : what is the problem ??
is it from ICS ?? or the arc is weak to get good ICS ???

Neither the arc, nor the arc s is too weak.
Let's take my HTC Wildfire S as instance:
600 MHz SC CPU
512 MB RAM (400 useable, btw this is more than on arc (s))
CM9 runs perfectly smoothly. Also the new xperia lineup has 800 MHz phones which have the new timescape gui and ICS.
I think the problem are insufficient drivers or just a *****y programming with memleaks.
The amount of free RAM is also a reason.

everyone has their own definition of what is smooth. as for me, i define it as:
1. Fling of homescreens and applications on stock launcher is solid iPhone-like even with widgets on a non-live wallpaper. The smoothness that would not let you think of Jelly Bean at all.
2. Basic applications critical for phone use like Contacts, Messaging, Browser should also be as smooth as number 1 above.
3. Temple Run Brave while in the gameplay, no lost frames and instant response on swipes. Reason is not for gaming, but means the phone will behave smoothly on heavy processing.
Since everyone has different opinion on smoothness, nobody can tell that their phone is smoothest.
What I can say though is that on any ICS ROM I have tried, nothing meets my 3 criteria above. Hence I stick with Gingerbread.
I am critical and allergic to laggy interface / phone. Destroys the experience, makes you insecure of other phones.

I installed "Jellybread" by omenHTX today and it's great Gingerbread Stuff! You should give it a shot
After so many bad experiences with ICS I am really glad someone focused on GB again
Greetings!
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theq86 said:
Neither the arc, nor the arc s is too weak.
Let's take my HTC Wildfire S as instance:
600 MHz SC CPU
512 MB RAM (400 useable, btw this is more than on arc (s))
CM9 runs perfectly smoothly. Also the new xperia lineup has 800 MHz phones which have the new timescape gui and ICS.
I think the problem are insufficient drivers or just a *****y programming with memleaks.
The amount of free RAM is also a reason.
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I was thinking about it and I think the problem is from Sony itself
maybe they give us a garbage update to feel that our phone is outdated to Chang it ..

UI Smoothness is more than acceptable on Arconium ICS but the phone is simply just too slow in the performance department, so it lags a lot - on both ICS and GB. Stock GB was just a small tad faster than Arconium ICS and significantly faster than stock ICS.
The biggest difference was the animation smoothness though, because the phone lacks performance under GB too - the processor runs at 100% for a few seconds until it launches some heavier apps, and with ICS even basic apps like youtube became heavy.

jtdc said:
everyone has their own definition of what is smooth. as for me, i define it as:
1. Fling of homescreens and applications on stock launcher is solid iPhone-like even with widgets on a non-live wallpaper. The smoothness that would not let you think of Jelly Bean at all.
2. Basic applications critical for phone use like Contacts, Messaging, Browser should also be as smooth as number 1 above.
3. Temple Run Brave while in the gameplay, no lost frames and instant response on swipes. Reason is not for gaming, but means the phone will behave smoothly on heavy processing.
Since everyone has different opinion on smoothness, nobody can tell that their phone is smoothest.
What I can say though is that on any ICS ROM I have tried, nothing meets my 3 criteria above. Hence I stick with Gingerbread.
I am critical and allergic to laggy interface / phone. Destroys the experience, makes you insecure of other phones.
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so i think the problem is from ics