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Xperia play specs...

So just looked at an update on it at engadget. Im a bit confused... Sony says it will deliver silky smooth play at 60 frames. Cool. How's this possible on g2 hardware? Snapdragon coupled with adreno 205. Am I missing something? Does Sony have some amazing optimization that unlocks some extra performance out of this hardware? Gotta admit I was a bit disappointed when I read the specs on it.
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Maybe its a newer gen snapdragon with 1.2 ghz like the hummingbird for the infuse
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No it says 1ghz snapdragon. Maybe it has something with the sony bravia graphics engine they talk about on all there xperia phones. I'm with you though I thought for a gaming specific phone the specs would be a little better. Verizon is said to get it exclusively here in the US.
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I can't wait for this thing to get released. The instant it is, I sure hope some devs start pulling it out and making it available for our phones. Using a game gripper would make it awesome on the Epic.

muyoso said:
I can't wait for this thing to get released. The instant it is, I sure hope some devs start pulling it out and making it available for our phones. Using a game gripper would make it awesome on the Epic.
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+1 on this. Since the phone gives companies to make controls for the xperia play, a game gripper in the style of the Play would be really cool
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gtuansdiamm said:
Maybe its a newer gen snapdragon with 1.2 ghz like the hummingbird for the infuse
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Nah Engadget tested it as going up to 1 GHz, and it's got an Adreno 205.
There's always a chance that they upclocked the Adreno 205 even higher, but I doubt it.
More likely it's got some quality LPDDR2 memory in there. Mobile GPUs are usually bottlenecked by the RAM in the device.

muyoso said:
I can't wait for this thing to get released. The instant it is, I sure hope some devs start pulling it out and making it available for our phones. Using a game gripper would make it awesome on the Epic.
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The software will be open for other android phones as l9ng as they're 2.3 or higher. So, there should be no issues, assuming we get a fully functional GB port.
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Well me and my buddy just downloaded epic citadel on his i4 and its amazing. If this is what epic.can do with the.same gpu that's in the evo I don't know.what.our.powervx540 gpus can do. From my understanding adreno 205 is the.gen above whatever adreno is in the evo...
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They can always do the oldest trick in the book..render it for half the pixel size then rescale it...

Adreno 205 is a bit slower than our GPU, however, the Play is using dual channel ddr2 memory @ 300 Mhz, so it should be able to feed the Adreno205 quite nicely.

thephawx said:
Adreno 205 is a bit slower than our GPU, however, the Play is using dual channel ddr2 memory @ 300 Mhz, so it should be able to feed the Adreno205 quite nicely.
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Not sure where you're getting that info from... that chipset doesn't have a dual-channel memory controller; the MSM89xx series will be the first to support that ability. The LPDDR2 memory at 300 MHz sounds about right though.

I got it straight from the Sony Ericcson Dev Blog
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/developerworld/2011/02/13/xperia-play-announced/

Thinking of getting one

Have an evo but I'm getting a Verizon dealer line. Is it worth it I'm a big gamer and will be getting an evo 3d to replace my evo. However I'm worried that the lack of good hardware will make the phone obsolete pretty quick..... thinking of getting a Droid x2 just for the tegra..... but not sure what advantages it would have. I'm also kind of worried about Sony portinhg enough stuff over to make it worth it.
Tho being able to run Rome on the built in emulator would be Perth awesome.
If I'm a huge gamer is it worth it. I really just want opinions on the device so any comments would be great.
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thorpe24 said:
Have an evo but I'm getting a Verizon dealer line. Is it worth it I'm a big gamer and will be getting an evo 3d to replace my evo. However I'm worried that the lack of good hardware will make the phone obsolete pretty quick..... thinking of getting a Droid x2 just for the tegra..... but not sure what advantages it would have. I'm also kind of worried about Sony portinhg enough stuff over to make it worth it.
Tho being able to run Rome on the built in emulator would be Perth awesome.
If I'm a huge gamer is it worth it. I really just want opinions on the device so any comments would be great.
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The evo 3Ds bootloader, recovery and kernel are locked down and signed, devs have said theres no way to get past it either lol so get a play
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Like games. Get a play. Simple.
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Thanks for the replies. I'm going to have two phones and figure the evo 3d would be pretty cool for some stuff. Hopefully I can use it to tether.... if not ill just use the play.
How well do the touchpads work?
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matknny said:
Like games. Get a play. Simple.
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I agree. This thing is Awesome and I'm so glad I moved from my iPhone to the X Play. Playing the old PSX games as well as the new games like the Spiderman is a lot better with the buttons.

thorpe24 said:
How well do the touchpads work?
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They take some getting use to but they work well.

thorpe24 said:
Thanks for the replies. I'm going to have two phones and figure the evo 3d would be pretty cool for some stuff. Hopefully I can use it to tether.... if not ill just use the play.
How well do the touchpads work?
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surprisingly they work a lot better than i thought.

thorpe24 said:
However I'm worried that the lack of good hardware will make the phone obsolete pretty quick..... thinking of getting a Droid x2 just for the tegra..... but not sure what advantages it would have.
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I dont think the hardware will be obsolete quick. With the controls alone you can play thousands of roms on emulators. Even if sony laggs on releases. FPSE works fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Uc10kZABg
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc vs LG Optimus 2x "Face Off". With the play and the arc being similiar id say its probably not to far off. The processor obviously would kick the plays arse. But at the moment dual core is not needed, only a few apps and games are tailored for it. What the point of all that power with nothing to use it.

Trust me the processor in the xperia play is amazing. It is currently the fastest single core CPU on android. Also the Xperia play has a GPU much more powerful than the one in tegra devices. Its even faster than the ipad2 GPU.
Hardware wise it is pretty advanced.

RacecarBMW said:
Trust me the processor in the xperia play is amazing. It is currently the fastest single core CPU on android. Also the Xperia play has a GPU much more powerful than the one in tegra devices. Its even faster than the ipad2 GPU.
Hardware wise it is pretty advanced.
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I totally agree with this. Just because it doesn't do well in benchmarks doesn't mean it's not faster in real world applications. My DroidX will smoke the Play in Quadrant. But if I were to do a side-by-side comparison on Dungeon Defenders, or load times, the Play will destroy it.
So for current processors, the Play has a very nice one indeed. Tegra is over-hyped in my book.
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RacecarBMW said:
Trust me the processor in the xperia play is amazing. It is currently the fastest single core CPU on android. Also the Xperia play has a GPU much more powerful than the one in tegra devices. Its even faster than the ipad2 GPU.
Hardware wise it is pretty advanced.
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What?! how is the Adreno 205 (single core) more powerful than a dual/quad core Tegra 2? its no where near and as for being more powerful than the gpu in the ipad 2, not a chance lol.
I love my Play but let's not get carried away with false claims
It can hold it's own against the rest of the mid range phones (iphone 4, galaxy s, desire hd etc) at the moment but it isn't in the same league hardware wise compared to the high end devices appearing now.
And yup, the cpu is one of the best single cores around but that's not saying much when the rest of the competition have moved on to dual core cpu's (and quad core by the end of the year) now....

FK1983 said:
What?! how is the Adreno 205 (single core) more powerful than a dual/quad core Tegra 2? its no where near and as for being more powerful than the gpu in the ipad 2, not a chance lol.
I love my Play but let's not get carried away with false claims
And yup, the cpu is one of the best single cores around but that's not saying much when the rest of the competition have moved on to dual core cpu's (and quad core by the end of the year) now....
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Yeah but its all about optimization.
Lets look at my PC vs a PS2 for example.
PS2 Specs: 32mb RAM, CPU 300mhz EE, GPU GS 4mb
My PC: 12gb Trichannel RAM, CPU i7 4 cores, 2 threads each @ 2.7ghz, GPU ATi 5870 1gb GDDR5
^My PC spanks the HELL out of those specs, but guess what? Through emulation my PC can not even play all games smoothly.
The Xperia Play hardware and the chip sets mentioned above have a MUCH less difference.
Meaning...
Any games and software designed around the Xperia Play will look vastly superior and play vastly superior on the Play vs those other chip sets, and believe me being the only phone on the market that is ALSO a dedicated gaming platform means that the system will see games that are much much better than those other chip sets. The Play basically owns the gaming market by default right now, the support is going to be insane.

Im wanting one to i hope i can afford it
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FK1983 said:
What?! how is the Adreno 205 (single core) more powerful than a dual/quad core Tegra 2? its no where near and as for being more powerful than the gpu in the ipad 2, not a chance lol.
I love my Play but let's not get carried away with false claims
It can hold it's own against the rest of the mid range phones (iphone 4, galaxy s, desire hd etc) at the moment but it isn't in the same league hardware wise compared to the high end devices appearing now.
And yup, the cpu is one of the best single cores around but that's not saying much when the rest of the competition have moved on to dual core cpu's (and quad core by the end of the year) now....
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Tegra is nothing special you know, it's total clock speed is only 1ghz just like ours, just because is dual core dosent make it super amazing. and as have been proven by chainfire, the GPU is not much better than ours. anyway imo the play is not a mid range device, it is quite easy in the high end category

gunstar3035 said:
Yeah but its all about optimization.
Any games and software designed around the Xperia Play will look vastly superior and play vastly superior on the Play vs those other chip sets, and believe me being the only phone on the market that is ALSO a dedicated gaming platform means that the system will see games that are much much better than those other chip sets. The Play basically owns the gaming market by default right now, the support is going to be insane.
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You can say that about any device though, if a game is made for the samsung galaxy s 2 and is optimized for that devices hardware (the better cpu/gpu and ram) it would wipe the floor with the play version, same as ipad 2, atrix, lg optimus 2 etc.
And yes, the play has the gaming pad which hopefully will expand the life a bit of the device and mean we do get some decent support (I hope) but obviously it depends how the Play sells (not sounding great at the moment tbh)

AndroHero said:
Tegra is nothing special you know, it's total clock speed is only 1ghz just like ours, just because is dual core dosent make it super amazing. and as have been proven by chainfire, the GPU is not much better than ours. anyway imo the play is not a mid range device, it is quite easy in the high end category
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The play is NOT a high end device lol, it sits slap bang in the mid range hardware wise, check all the review sites, all of them class this device as a mid range device,
CNET UK:
All indications seem to be that the Play is a good mid-range smartphone. Whether you should choose it over any other phone will hinge entirely on how often you think you will want to play games on it.
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Single core 1ghz cpu (classed as mid range), adreno 205 gpu (while good still classed as mid range), ram is 512mb but has 378mb usable (classed as mid range, the desire s and desire hd even beat it with 768mb of ram), internal storage is 400mb (mid range), the screen is standard lcd (and not S-LCD or AMOLED etc) so is also mid range,
I knew the Xperia Play was a mid range device before I bought it, I have no issues about that, but it does make me laugh when people try and say it is high end when its nowhere near, check the reviews, check the specs, check the benchmarks, they ALL scream mid range!
And yes, the Play can play the recent Tegra 2 games using chainfire but remember those games are 1st generation Tegra 2 games, give it a few months and none of the Tegra 2 games will work on the Adreno 205 gpu, and theres games on tegra 2 already that won't even run on the Play due to the inferior gpu and ram on the Play (monster madness and bang bang racing for example) even with chainfire.

The X-Play is great the controls feel great minus the analogs they get a bit getting used to, at first I thought they were just broken. I had been having a few problems with the power button getting stuck when pressed but I just used a razor blade to shave the sides of the cover and it works just fine. The auto bright feature is just annoying due to it constantly changing hope an update will allow to turn off auto bright. Gaming on it is enjoyable especially at work when nothing is going on. Battery life last me about 6 hours of gaming it could be better but once r800x model can be rooted to uninstall verizon's bloatware and auto bright disabled battery life just be greatly extended.

Anyone think Samsung Should use Tegra?

Hi,
One thing I havent seen many people talk about is the fact that S3/2 and the Note lack the Tegra SoC. I Kknow Samsung likes to use their own Exynos, but sometimes I hate the fact that I cant run those THD games which admittedly many are quality games. And.in some cases like Riptide and Shadowgun you do get some extra eye-candy over the regular versions. This is one area were the HTC One X wins I think....the ability to play those high quality THD versions of the game. Im also sure you can root and use chainfire, but sometimes I wish the galaxy line would use the Tegra 3 and have the widest game compatibility. For me this is the biggest downside to what for me is.the perfect phone.
Anyone feel the same?
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I hear ya!!!
I really miss my Tegra goodness...
Many will say that by using this or using that you can make Tegra games run on non-tegra devices, and that's partially true, however true Tegra graphics are much better...
There are many shader effects missing on those non-tegra devices.
I would really love to see a Tegra based Note (even though I know that would never happen)...

Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****

bamboo12 said:
Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****
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Like most tegra 2 devices. I've used moto atrix, lg g2x, acer/toshiba tablets.
They just helping wuth androids biggest problem, fragmentation. This isnt a samsung processor issue, this is up to the developer. Think 360 vs ps3.
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Tegra processors are usually on the low-end of available options.
Eg/
SGS: Exynos 3110 = 170
Droid2 : OMAP 3630 = 160
NexusOne: QSD 8250 = 130
HTC prototype: Tegra APX 650 = 100
SGS 2: Exynos 4210 = 140
Sensation XL: QSD 8255= 130
Optimus 3D: OMAP 4330 = 120
Atrix 4G: Tegra2 = 100
SGS 3: Exynos 4412 = 130
*OMAP Skipped Generation* = N/A
Optimus 4X: Tegra3 = 110
OneS: Krait S4-dual = 100
By having early and direct access to their own manufacturing facility, Samsung can develop chips that are slightly faster than the competition and produce them at lower costs.
Apple tends to strongarm the market with early business deals and access to manufacturing facilities too, though not on Samsung's scale. Fortunately for Apple, they don't need the fastest, they need "good enough" at the cheapest price. Since iOS will run faster than Android, due to better and direct optimizations, Apple's offerings can consequently be even faster than Samsung's.

Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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Rayan said:
Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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I have not seen a side by side comparison but apart from the graphics, how many tegra games are really compelling? I have not seen a tegra game that made me wish i had a tegra device.
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I prefer Mali. So no.
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Rayan said:
Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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When it comes to the GPU, Nvidia are using competitive offerings.
For instance, the one in Tegra 1 (APX 650) was top-tier in its era, but not the best.
This is forgivable as they were new to the mobile market.
With the Tegra2, nVidia did offer a great chip.
It was about on-par/higher than the SGX540... but it was surpassed with the new drivers and higher clocked SGX540 from OMAP4470. And not to mention the quadcore Mali-400 (SGS2) that embarassed it.
With the Tegra3, there's nothing new.
They offer a gpu that was better than their competitors, but the competitors are rolling out their new gpu. Qualcomm with their new Adreno. Samsung with the T604. Omap with the SGX544mp4. In fact the new A5X gpu is superior to the Tegra3 gpu. Don't forget about the PS Vita either.
here's an interesting article: http://blog.laptopmag.com/tablet-chip-showdown-nvidia-tegra-3-vs-the-new-ipads-a5x
Soon, Tegra3 will be a "mid-entry" SoC, or even a "low-mid" one.
The only advantage the Tegra chips have is the TegraZone. Deeper integration of the software to the gpu, that's how nVidia levels the field.
So you are in fact incorrect. They don't blow the competition out of the water!
They fragment the competition, which I believe is wrong. I think that either nVidia must try harder (they're a friggin graphics company!!!) or that the TegraZone enhancements should be in the AOSP and give all competitors a chance to provide the best software (drivers producing, kernels processing, roms consuming) for their hardware.
With greater competition, the consumers win.

I'd rather have the better Exynos processor than some crappy Tegra games which I might show off once and then never play again...

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I'd rather have the better Exynos processor than some crappy Tegra games which I might show off once and then never play again...
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+1,000,000 to this!
Tegra - no thank you!

bamboo12 said:
Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****
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That was Tegra 2. Tegra 3 on the HtC one x and Asus transformer prime flies.
So the myth that Tegra is slow has been shown by Tegra 3
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violentgoomba said:
I have not seen a side by side comparison but apart from the graphics, how many tegra games are really compelling? I have not seen a tegra game that made me wish i had a tegra device.
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Riptide GP...Samurai 2 THD, Shadowgun Tegra 3, Fruit Ninja THD, Bang bang racing Thd...i think are pretty good titles and offrr significant enhancements over the non thd versions.
I love my Note...but I do have to admit that a One X with the Tegra 3 has more game support and is faster.
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nvidia is a GFX Company. They'll pay for people develop stuff for their products.
Tegra 3 is inferior to the Mali 400 MP. Ask the developer to make a version of their game using all Mali 400MP Features.
Blame the developer not the GPU itself.

blue13x said:
Hi,
One thing I havent seen many people talk about is the fact that S3/2 and the Note lack the Tegra SoC. I Kknow Samsung likes to use their own Exynos, but sometimes I hate the fact that I cant run those THD games which admittedly many are quality games. And.in some cases like Riptide and Shadowgun you do get some extra eye-candy over the regular versions. This is one area were the HTC One X wins I think....the ability to play those high quality THD versions of the game. Im also sure you can root and use chainfire, but sometimes I wish the galaxy line would use the Tegra 3 and have the widest game compatibility. For me this is the biggest downside to what for me is.the perfect phone.
Anyone feel the same?
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A few Samsungs run Tegras - they have piss poor performance, abysmal video decoding capability, etc. See Tab 10.1 as an example - the tegra2 in that is a POS compared to Exynos4.
NVidia is always first to up the core count but always delivers poor performance per core.
Similarly, the Exynos 4412 smokes the Tegra 3 when total system performance is taken into account.
It's kind of odd that the SoC that comes from a company whose specialty is GPUs is the worst in terms of 2D video performance (codec support) and average at best for 3D.
On top of that they use some funky texture compression format not compatible with anything else unless you use Chainfire 3D.

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Tegra 3 is inferior to the Mali 400 MP. Ask the developer to make a version of their game using all Mali 400MP Features.
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No. The gpu in the Tegra 3 is slightly superior to the quadcore Mali-400, not a huge stretch.
But each "generation" nVidia have been the the inferior products, especially in the graphics components (irony?). However, they offset this because they're first to market.
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That's exactly right.
Its about the entire offering software AND hardware optimization, not one without the other.
I rather have a 1GB RAM and Tegra2 rather than 2GB RAM and Exynos 4410... just as long as the software is optimized (for instance, lower-level API support using Qt and Mainline Linux.... compared to higher-order virtual engine running on a inferior kernel).

I think your arguments are all invalid. Especially on this forum.
Just install chainfire 3d pro and you can run all those THD games flawlessly and in real world performance mali blows tegra out of the sky.

tegra gets no love nowadays

Darfus said:
I think your arguments are all invalid. Especially on this forum.
Just install chainfire 3d pro and you can run all those THD games flawlessly and in real world performance mali blows tegra out of the sky.
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Even though Chainfire allow us to run Tegra games, it does not do a good job emulating the shader effects present in the actual games. Games look flat and dull compared to the original.
Cheers!
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Rayan said:
Even though Chainfire allow us to run Tegra games, it does not do a good job emulating the shader effects present in the actual games. Games look flat and dull compared to the original.
Cheers!
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Plus it requires rooting. I prefer the support right out of the box.
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Adreno vs Tegra vs PowerVR

Any performance-wise issues with the Adreno? Specifically when it comes HD gaming (I'm talking about NFS Most Wanted, N.O.V.A 3 etc)...
I have one bad example to share with the Adreno.
A friend has Xperia S that has Adreno GPU. NFS MW lags like hell...runs super smooth on my PowerVR...
So...don't you think a Tegra 3 would have been cherry on the icing...
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I heard that adreno is fine with HD gaming. But i really don't like tegra 3 because it's not that good processor in my opinion
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This thread is interesting. Brb and will look for that subscribe button.

Xperia S has an Adreno 220, N4 has Adreno 320. Big difference here. I'm pretty sure it stacks up against others just fine.
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Xperia S has an Adreno 220, N4 has Adreno 320. Big difference here. I'm pretty sure it stacks up against others just fine.
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Adreno320 completely destroys a Tegra3, not even close......
but I don't know about the other chip that was asked about.
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Any performance-wise issues with the Adreno? Specifically when it comes HD gaming (I'm talking about NFS Most Wanted, N.O.V.A 3 etc)...
I have one bad example to share with the Adreno.
A friend has Xperia S that has Adreno GPU. NFS MW lags like hell...runs super smooth on my PowerVR...
So...don't you think a Tegra 3 would have been cherry on the icing...
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powervr chips are probably overall the most efficient, powerful and supported. iphone uses powervr gpu's so the compatibility and ports are a lot easier. the adreno 320 seems to be a pretty powerful gpu. tegra3 just isn't there yet. nvidia makes great desktop and mobile pc gpu's but they're still kind of green in the phone market. the tegra3 isn't a slouch but as far as power efficiency and support there are 2 better options.

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powervr chips are probably overall the most efficient, powerful and supported. iphone uses powervr gpu's so the compatibility and ports are a lot easier. the adreno 320 seems to be a pretty powerful gpu. tegra3 just isn't there yet. nvidia makes great desktop and mobile pc gpu's but they're still kind of green in the phone market. the tegra3 isn't a slouch but as far as power efficiency and support there are 2 better options.
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So, so far powerVR is the strongest..I mean, A320 isn't out yet in any device right...

circleofomega said:
So, so far powerVR is the strongest..I mean, A320 isn't out yet in any device right...
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The adreno 320 is in the quad core s4 chipsets, like the optimus g and nexus 4.
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Tegra is terrible. I know that because I have the atrix.

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Tegra is terrible. I know that because I have the atrix.
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I know, my wife has one too. Even the games made for Tegra lag...LOL!
But then I think the PowerVR will be the only strong contender...

You wan't to know the answer? The poverwr wins

you do know that this thread is like a year old?
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So which one i should choose
circleofomega said:
Any performance-wise issues with the Adreno? Specifically when it comes HD gaming (I'm talking about NFS Most Wanted, N.O.V.A 3 etc)...
I have one bad example to share with the Adreno.
A friend has Xperia S that has Adreno GPU. NFS MW lags like hell...runs super smooth on my PowerVR...
So...don't you think a Tegra 3 would have been cherry on the icing...
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Which I should choose Powervr sgx544 ,Andreno 220,Tegra 3 or Mali
And what about files for games all the files for this devices will be different or the same

Power VR is probably better as all ios devices have them so games ported from iPhone don't need to be gpu optimised
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Andreno files or any other GPU files doesnt support on my phonr
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Power VR is probably better as all ios devices have them so games ported from iPhone don't need to be gpu optimised
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I want to know that I am having device named MICROMAX CANVAS HD A116 ARM7 POWERVR with 1.2 quadcore processor.
what about if I downloaded An Andreno file and installed it on my phone it will run or not.
And which GPU is best ANDRENO,POWERVR ,MALI or TEGRA.
I got this problem many times when I download a modded game from any other site and I download Andreno then after running that game
It shows a message sgx is not found download it from google play store.But they dont have any apk or datafiles for my POWERVR GPU so what can I do.is there any way to convert that apk into another GPU's apk.

What version of android does this phone run as ICS and below allow chainfire 3d app to be installed which had plugins that helped different games work. It also fixed the market settings so you could download them. Loved that app.
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Moto X has a VZW release date..development for it?

What are you guys' thoughts about the rumor of august 23rd the Motorola x is coming out? Straight Google on vzw (unfortunately I'm still contracted) with possibly a maxx size battery sounds sweet.
Do you think there will be enough development?

With all the hype, specs, and stock Android, there will definitely be a ton of development for it.

I hate all Motorola phones Lol. Just looked up the specs and its on dual core 1.7. Other specs don't look too thrilling
His: HTC DNA
Hers: LG Optimus G

d08speed3 said:
I hate all Motorola phones Lol. Just looked up the specs and its on dual core 1.7. Other specs don't look too thrilling
His: HTC DNA
Hers: LG Optimus G
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The specs aren't all that fantastic. The last I heard it wasn't even 1080p, and dual-core anything isn't all the impressive.
But since it has stock aosp (which I never personally was that big a fan of), everyone is going to drool over it, and it'll have relatively good developer support.

There are apparently multiple tiers of them. With the highest being amazing.
S800 processor(simply the best out there)
1080p screen 5ish inch screen
Keller back with drop and water resistant
2 gigs of ram
With or without a maxx size battery.
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Bigandrewgold said:
There are apparently multiple tiers of them. With the highest being amazing.
S800 processor(simply the best out there)
1080p screen 5ish inch screen
Keller back with drop and water resistant
2 gigs of ram
With or without a maxx size battery.
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So you can customize the processor too? I'm thinking that would split development...like this ROM is for 600 processors, ROMs won't be universal. I have an upgrade 8/29 luckily. If you can get a quad core 1.7, maxx battery. 1080p, 2gb of ram, with Google source aosp backing, I'll be all over this
Regardless of if it is moto

-DroidIsDNA- said:
So you can customize the processor too? I'm thinking that would split development...like this ROM is for 600 processors, ROMs won't be universal. I have an upgrade 8/29 luckily. If you can get a quad core 1.7, maxx battery. 1080p, 2gb of ram, with Google source aosp backing, I'll be all over this
Regardless of if it is moto
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It isn't necessarily customizing. Just that there is a mid range phone and a high end phone.
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It isn't necessarily customizing. Just that there is a mid range phone and a high end phone.
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Oh cool!
I'm either looking at this or a newer HTC around Christmas. Verizon will get the one too late...hopefully there is a ground breaking dna2. Otherwise, this is a powerhouse of a phone and I love the developers

For me it's all about specs. The moto x needs to have at least 8 cores or a much faster quad core set up.it needs to have more ram, an equal or better camera, an equal or better screen, an equal or better build quality. I have 2 small kids and taking pics on the fly is really important. I just switch from an iPhone 5 to the DNA and after using the camera for the past week I've been pleasantly surprised. I think everyone will agree that Motorola has never been known for its camera. Hopefully Google has improved this
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doctajay said:
For me it's all about specs. The moto x needs to have at least 8 cores or a much faster quad core set up.it needs to have more ram, an equal or better camera, an equal or better screen, an equal or better build quality. I have 2 small kids and taking pics on the fly is really important. I just switch from an iPhone 5 to the DNA and after using the camera for the past week I've been pleasantly surprised. I think everyone will agree that Motorola has never been known for its camera. Hopefully Google has improved this
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8 cores?
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Bigandrewgold said:
There are apparently multiple tiers of them. With the highest being amazing.
S800 processor(simply the best out there)
1080p screen 5ish inch screen
Keller back with drop and water resistant
2 gigs of ram
With or without a maxx size battery.
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You're confusing the X and the new Droid Ultra variants. The X has standard internals across all versions but is supposed to have an array of new and advanced sensors and custom colors. The others are the new Droid phones headed to Verizon.

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8 cores?
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Yeah like the Exynos 5 Octa 5410 cpu that the galaxy s4 international is sporting. Another quad core cpu that it's overclocked a bit higher went be enough for me to move on
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doctajay said:
Yeah like the Exynos 5 Octa 5410 cpu that the galaxy s4 international is sporting. Another quad core cpu that it's overclocked a bit higher went be enough for me to move on
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It only utilizes four cores at once. The name is a gimmick. It uses four A15s for intense tasks and the for A7s for low end tasks
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dashshiron said:
You're confusing the X and the new Droid Ultra variants. The X has standard internals across all versions but is supposed to have an array of new and advanced sensors and custom colors. The others are the new Droid phones headed to Verizon.
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According to recent leaks the ultra and the 'X phone' are very similar. Both have a mid range version, and that is what leaked quite a few months ago. Recently there have been leaks for a high end version in both line ups.
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doctajay said:
Yeah like the Exynos 5 Octa 5410 cpu that the galaxy s4 international is sporting. Another quad core cpu that it's overclocked a bit higher went be enough for me to move on
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That processor doesn't actually use 8 cores. It is essentially 2 quad core processor smacked together, with only one being run at once. It is no faster than a normal quad core processor.
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The idea behind octo core is battery.minimal tasks use the less powerful four. Gaming, etc, using the more powerful set. So ironically it is about battery. I agree, a new phone has to be super impressive for me to leave the DNA.

Bigandrewgold said:
There are apparently multiple tiers of them. With the highest being amazing.
S800 processor(simply the best out there)
1080p screen 5ish inch screen
Keller back with drop and water resistant
2 gigs of ram
With or without a maxx size battery.
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That should be the minimum if they hope to impress the jaded.

Dri94 said:
8 cores?
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I think he is thinking of samsungs Exynos5 cpu, in reality its a dual-quad core cpu, you can only use 4 cores at any given time, like different power states low power cores and high power cores

I will get Moto X no doubts about that . The most important thing would be that - "first smartphone designed, engineered and assembled in the USA". Finally our first American made smartphone . I am tired of asian cra'

Moto X is a mid range device with custom colors
Moto Droid Ultra (regular and maxx) are your high end devices
See droid life. Android police, any android blog....

http://m.cnet.com/news/moto-x-will-sport-always-on-voice-commands-leaked-video-shows/57593663
Oh yeahhhh