Hi all,
Being a new proud owner of an ACTUAL Nexus phone. I am trying to get a picture of what the future of this phone may be. Is there anyone who owns an older Nexus that is still getting OTA updates. Now, let me say that of course I know I can always root and rom untill the phone explodes, but what of OTA updates? Are we looking at a year maybe two of OTA's before this phone becomes un-supported? I am looking for historical information but I can't seem to find any article or post in regards. What is the experience of other past Nexus owners? Just some good conversation I thought. Thanks!
About 2 years
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About 2 years
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To give some perspective, the Nexus S was supported until 4.1.2, after shipping with 2.3 over 2 years ago. The Galaxy Nexus is currently still supported and has been updated to 4.2.2 and will likely be updated to 5.0 along with the Nexus 4 in May after Google I/O. You can expect the Nexus 4 to be supported until early 2015 or so.
Even if we lose support, we have an amazing dev team. So just sit back and relax.
This is something I also took into consideration when I purchased this device. If you ask me, we are getting plenty of Bang-for-our-Buck. A great processor, a good-size screen, good amount of RAM, Google-direct updates, and a great Dev Community, The last two, in-particular, are the main reason why the Nexus 4 will have longevity over say the Galaxy S3 or even (I think) the Galaxy S4. While Google was behind on the initial demand of the product, I do not believe they will fall behind on the software this phone. I don't know how the Galaxy Nexus was received at launch but this thing flew off the shelves and was talked about ALL over the internet. I don't think Google is done with this phone just yet. I hope for 2-3 (maybe even 4) years of active Android updates.
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This is something I also took into consideration when I purchased this device. If you ask me, we are getting plenty of Bang-for-our-Buck. A great processor, a good-size screen, good amount of RAM, Google-direct updates, and a great Dev Community, The last two, in-particular, are the main reason why the Nexus 4 will have longevity over say the Galaxy S3 or even (I think) the Galaxy S4. While Google was behind on the initial demand of the product, I do not believe they will fall behind on the software this phone. I don't know how the Galaxy Nexus was received at launch but this thing flew off the shelves and was talked about ALL over the internet. I don't think Google is done with this phone just yet. I hope for 2-3 (maybe even 4) years of active Android updates.
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Yeah I hope so too. Although 4 years may be a little stretch lol. I like this phone too. I honestly think if the Nexus 5 has a 5" screen I won't want it. This phone is hard to use with one hand at times when I need to stretch out to reach that back button. It's a good size. Nice screen, and solid fast hardware too. Just get a nice case for it...
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I think the support will last longer and longer for Nexus devices as they are more capable. Obviously a single core Nexus 1 had a limited future with the speed of development of Android. I think with a quad core phone like the Nexus 4, we could probably expect a fair bit of longevity with regards to OS updates.
Who keeps the phone for more than two years anyways....
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Who keeps the phone for more than two years anyways....
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I think one of the issues we're contending here is that with our processing power getting to the point where we're rivalling computers, how powerful are phones going to have to be to force our N4s into obsolescence? From a hardware standpoint, it's not as likely. And forced software obsolescence... that's a whole other problem
Even if we only get updates for two years, we typically get them 4 months before everyone else.
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How long after an announcement do we get the update? A week or two?
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My fear is not updates, I'm quite sure we will get them. But what good are updates if my battery doesn't hold as much power anymore? One thing is clear for me though. Only nexus phones in future.
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How long after an announcement do we get the update? A week or two?
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Couple hours of them being released.
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My fear is not updates, I'm quite sure we will get them. But what good are updates if my battery doesn't hold as much power anymore? One thing is clear for me though. Only nexus phones in future.
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Isn't the battery good for something like 800 charge cycles?
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Isn't the battery good for something like 800 charge cycles?
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Well I did read that it is good for 800 cycles and it the life cycle increases the slower the phone is charged (?) Can anyone confirm the latter as true? Cause if that's the case I will get me a charger that really is slow. Since I only ever seem to plug in my phone at night before my sleep
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Well I did read that it is good for 800 cycles and it the life cycle increases the slower the phone is charged (?) Can anyone confirm the latter as true? Cause if that's the case I will get me a charger that really is slow. Since I only ever seem to plug in my phone at night before my sleep
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Well, it's not the charging speed that matters. It's the heat that's caused by the process of charging that damages the battery.
The faster your battery is charged, the hotter it will become. The higher the battery temperature, the faster it will deteriorate.
Just my two cents.
Correct me if I'm wrong but so far the reason Google gave for not stopping updates to their older devices was because they simply weren't powerful enough to handle the newer Android versions. Based on this, I feel our phone will continue to get updates for a minimum of 4 years. Let me explain.
Back then cramming great hardware into phones was still at a very nascent stage. High tech phones were pretty new, and equally unheard of. The focus was mainly on Software, and lesser on hardware. But that's not the case today. Today most companies are embroiled into a "hardware race", something like we the "megapixel race" we have seen. And I think (after doing a bit of research) the hardware race as peaked. Software is what is going to attract the customers now. Hardware gimmicks will soon stop. Today phones are more powerful than PCs which are a few years old. Android versions, along with most apps, don't even make full use of 4 cores. We never really even come close to utilising the full 2 GB of RAM. 720p is a resolution high enough for any device. The only place where we lag is the GPU, but even that's pretty decent. I doubt any Android version will REQUIRE more than 4 cores anytime soon. Android is a platform for all types of phones. High end as well as low end. If the minimum requirement is 8 cores, they won't be able to sell low end phones anymore. Which pretty much halves their market. And I doubt they want that.
However now we have reached a point where hardware is far superior to the software that operates on it. One example I can give you is the difference between the Samsung Galaxy s1, s2, s3, s4. The difference between each successor and predecessor is huge. The smallest gap witnessed is between the s3 and the s4. The main selling point of Samsung is in the s4 is the software, not the hardware, as (largely) was the case in the previous versions.
Also, Google doesn't make much money from the selling of phones. It's main source of revenue is from the software that runs inside our phones. I only see two reasons for Google to stop providing updates for our phones :
1 - It might get too tedious to provide the updates for a large number of devices.
2 - They might want people to shift to Motorola.
Again, this is just what I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Before upgrading to the next best top model? All I see coming in the next few years are phones with more cores, better camera, the only thing I would replace my Note with is probabaly with a bigger screen.
I'll be happy if it lasts me a good 18 months before I'm ready to bounce to the next best thing.
You best be kidding. Samsung will be looking to make you salivate and throw money at them for the Note 2 when it eventually arrives.
Mobile technology is moving too fast to get 5yrs out of a device - especially if you are driven to take advantage of new technologies. (Which probably is 100% of the XDA member base).
I expect in 10-16 months the next generation Note will be out there. Will it be a worthy upgrade? Probably.
Will it be a necessary upgrade? Probably not.
The average person probably goes from Gen 1 to Gen 3... Gen 3 to Gen 5, etc. I'm basing this on my circle of friends, anyway, iphone and ipad users.
I usually change my phone after 3 years, most of the time cause its not supported anymore, or cause the new OS isn't optimized (was on iphone and iOS 5 ask more power than the 3GS can provide). I'll see with the futur phone generation, one thing is sure, i cant go back to something <5,3"
Maybe a year...another 6 months if you're not very passionate about latest devices....
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I always get a new phone every 12 months, 5 years? I can't imagine how awesome a phone I'm going to have in 5 years time :-D
5 years!?
5 months might be a better time frame given how fast phone tech is evolving.
What I don't understand is why people lock themselves to a device. I make sure I keep my phones in mint condition and when I want something new I trade or sell it on craigslist.
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You best be kidding. Samsung will be looking to make you salivate and throw money at them for the Note 2 when it eventually arrives.
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Give it up already. Where is the streak 2. Fez people make phones up that don't exsist or never will
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5 years!?
5 months might be a better time frame given how fast phone tech is evolving.
What I don't understand is why people lock themselves to a device. I make sure I keep my phones in mint condition and when I want something new I trade or sell it on craigslist.
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Mobile tech is evolving too fast. I mean, with 95% of the app being simple 2D graphics what will you do with a tegra3 quadcore, honestly ? So much power for nothing, as phones can already handle 1080p HD videos and stuff.
I see myself with the note for like 1 year. Until,something spectacular comes out.
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Give it up already. Where is the streak 2. Fez people make phones up that don't exsist or never will
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The difference is, Note is made by Samsung, its very popular and successful device already. Mark my words, there will be a successor to Note. Most probably this year itself.
I can see myself using this device for a very long time, or until it breaks. The Note has a nice balance of power, screen estate, and most importantly, battery life.
Until they improve battery technology, I will not bother moving on the Tegra 3 devices, even if the Note 2 will be quad-core. There's simply no need for that. Google is always playing catchup with making the best of hardware so in all honesty even if you got a quad-core phone, you'd probably wait a good entire year before it becomes fully optimized. =)
I will never be able to spend 2 years with the same phone. Reason why I try to protect my Note as best as I can and when the time will come I will sell it and go for the next one like I did with my last SGS1.
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I hope it last me 5 months... Let alone 5 years
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I hope it last me 5 months... Let alone 5 years
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Lawl. Quite an expensive hobby you got there.
5 years its going to be obsolete in 12 months lol
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I doubt its gonna last a full 12 months, by the time the Galaxy S3 comes out this will be 'yesterdays' phone.
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Lawl. Quite an expensive hobby you got there.
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I know but i love it! im addicted to cellphones!!
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Last Android update this phone is going to get is Adroid 4.0. Android 5.0 will be out in 3-4 months. Samsung is not in business to produce any software support for these phones, unlike Apple. After 6 months Note is not going to get any android updates, like first Galaxy Nexus.
Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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I'm sure you aren't, but I love my N4. I bought it for development. Good luck with your S4.
Oh, and INB4L.
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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Not getting the s4, maybe xperia z if Sony gets their sh*t together and releases c6606 soon. I don't use my phone much for gaming anymore, especially larger games like NFS. That's what the N10 is for.
I won't get a S4 unless I win one
I'll probably get one for my girl in a couple months when people who can't pay their bill start selling them on craigslist. I'm ok with my nexus for now, at least till the next one comes out
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Absolutely no chance. 16GB is more than enough for me, Touchwiz is hideous, Exynos devices are notoriously difficult to port AOSP roms to and the device itself will probably be hideous too. I'd much rather have my N4
only is samsung blows the htc one away, i loved the s2 but loathe the build quality of the s3
nex4 is fine, until nexus 5 is out. then i'll switch. its not about specs. i want a free and unregulated android, google is the only one who provides that. i love software and seeing it progress, i couldn't cope with being locked out of everything that concerns android, for a couple of gb. i can't even imagine how a samsung customer watches the I/O, probably they don't, but if they do - how do they manage seeing all the nice things knowing full well its not for them. don't they feel strange when 2 hours after its over leaks rain over xda and everyone's running the latest and greatest, and they just have to wait until next fall?
If it's not vanilla Android then it doesn't get any thought from me
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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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This is why I have the N7
And no I will not switch either. I was close to buying a s3, but the software wasn't up to par with what I am used to. My last device was the Sensation and I took off Sense 3.0 as fast as I could for JB lol. Like moles said, the customizations in just plain Android is great IMO, no need to embellish it with multiple windows or smartscrolling
It will sell on name alone regardless looking and feeling like any other TW device
I don't need a still plastic-y, spec bumped Galaxy S3. After owning the Nexus 4, Samsung is child's play. I've owned and used over a dozen android phones since '08 and the Nexus 4 is the best I've owned/used.
Still, I can't wait to at least play with the Galaxy S4 even though it will feel like an S2 and S3.
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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Not a chance. I have a N10 for things like that, didnt like the build of my Galaxy Nexus (Samsung), dont want a bigger screen and think the skins are horrid.
I love my N4 and won't want a GS4...am I curious about it and its hardware? Sure I am a tech nut and am always curious about new stuff...just like when the new iPhones come out I sit and watch the apple videos and such to learn about it...does it mean I want either? Hell no I don't like touch wiz, or the fact that Samsung still uses hard ware buttons and I don't like iOS or the fact that it hasn't changed in 4 or 5 years other than little things or craptastic things like siri...I love owning nexus devices for one simple reason...the software...besides that this phone is fast as heck on the processor side of things and it just so happens to be one hell of a good looking phone with the added bonus of being unlocked and not bound to some 2 year agreement makes it all the more sweeter with out shelling out $600+ like I would if I wanted the newest galaxy s iteration.
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I'm sure you aren't, but I love my N4. I bought it for development. Good luck with your S4.
Oh, and INB4L.
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Lol how u know i am not? And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support. First i thought 16gb would be enough, then i started feeling it is very limiting not to have the opten of an external sd card (very practical) also the camera quality of the n4 is not one of the best in the market. Anyways yes (the cheap quality of the galaxy+amoled screen in the sun sucks) will see what the s4 has to offer tmrw.
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Lol how u know i am not? And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support. First i thought 16gb would be enough, then i started feeling it is very limiting not to have the opten of an external sd card (very practical) also the camera quality of the n4 is not one of the best in the market. Anyways yes (the cheap quality of the galaxy+amoled screen in the sun sucks) will see what the s4 has to offer tmrw.
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I have owned the Galaxy S, S2, S3 ,Note and Note2 and i liked them all (especialy the Note2) but Nexus devices have something extra imo. Easy to root and restore, fast, no bloatware, and always the latest updates and getting them first.
I think my avatar and device roster answers the question.
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And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support.
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dev support doesnt mean crap when they have no sources. you get a lot of devs supporting one another by lending a shoulder to cry on or distributing kleenex. i am a follower of teamhacksungs blogs and dev g+ accounts, i like to read what they do. if you have nerves you best go there and take a good look what happenes when samsung releases the next big closed thing coz these guys are basically ****ed, they can sit down now for months and hack stupid things that should be open in the firstplace.
I just don't think an upgrade is necessary. 720p to 1080p is not that big of a difference compared to the jump from QHD or WVGA to 720p, and the S4 Pro is handling everything with ease. When the processor starts falling behind that I can notice it in daily use, or one of the technologies advances in a major way (battery, maybe?), I don't think I will be selling my nexus for another phone.
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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Sell it to me
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I rather wait till nexus 5
I'm going to admit I'm biased already on several levels:
* I hate waiting for OS updates from carriers/OEM's
* My usual M.O. is not to be an early adopter of any just-released tech
* The N4 specs aren't that far behind the 2013 flagships
* My carrier supports DC HSPA speeds
* No bloatware
But I have a few questions:
Do you think judging by past patterns, that the N4 will continue to get updates well ahead of HTC for the next year from April even though it's been out since November 2012?
Do you think the N4's specs will give it a shelf life as long as the HTC One for at least another year in terms of performance and speed?
How is 4.2.2 on the N4? Did it still remain fast? Is this a fast and lag free phone compared to this year's OEM flagships? I played around with its carrier branded sister the LGOG and it was extremely fast and smooth just running in ICS so I'm hoping the N4 on JB is also, is it?
And just for the record, I'm not concerned about another Nexus hitting the shelf this fall, if that happens I'll just ebay this one and buy the next.
Thanks in advance!
It will get the updates, 4.2.2 is great, and it'll perform perfectly fine for probably 2 years. I don't see quad core as ever really becoming too slow, in fact I don't think it will go much further than quad core.
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Had Htc one s for two weeks and after getting N4 I don't regret sending it back.
Btw I'm not the biggest fan of sense os so that would have to go too straight away lol
On N4 I'm still on stock 4.2.1 (lack of time ) and it's super smooth
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If you like to or plan to flash and do heavy mods to the OS then stick with the N4. Well already have a more active developer community. And if want the latest greatest version of Android you always have to do Nexus device
If picture quality is important to you then do the HTC One (Optical image stabilization and superior low light performance).
If you watch a lot of YouTube or listen to music using the phone speakers, the front facing stereo speakers on the One will be beneficial.
Both have very good build quality but the front and back edge to edge glass on the N4 make it less drop friendly than the aluminum unibody of the One.
In day to day stuff I don't think you'll see a huge difference in performance between the two so I'd call that a wash.
Tough call. Both are great phones. Just depends on your priorities.
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The one is going to be a bad ass phone, but you have to like sense...which i do. Some people hate it.
But, if you plan on getting the one and flashing and doing all that, I'd just go with the n4.
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If you have the money then a HTC one
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I think you answered your own question lol. I mean how much better can "specs" get for a phone? And why do we need these specs to reach such heights? Do we just want these "specs" just to say we have them? Because that's what it seems like at this point...2gb ram + quad core takes care of my needs and should for the next 2 years.
It just seems like people are waiting for the next best thing and I don't see it getting much better for a phone of this quality at this price point off contract. Not to mention, no bloatware, the dev community and the quick updates. I guess I'm just a simple man
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When folks come over here and ask which phone they should get, I laugh hard. You will always get a bias answer.
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If you like to customize, nexus.
If you're more like an iPhone user, go HTC
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id say nexus 4. tthe htc one is so nice and i would buy it but i bet you you can buy 2 of these Nexus 4s for the price of a HTC One on release. And US release is delayed to end of april. And if you want sense 5 because ofthe dev community here, I bet you can get it.There's not much going for the htc one unless you want the actual hardware and the ultrapixel camera, etc. but very steep in price. if you have tmobile, nexus 4 is future proof for LTE.
Definitely the nexus 4. unless you want to stay with Jelly bean forever
The worst part of HTC is the CID numbers, if you don`t have the international CID you can root what you want but you will not be able to update to the latest version untill it is released for your region/carrier. BTW unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, even if restored too stock RUU it wil stay say RELOCKED. For me never again HTC. So as you may have guessed i would choose the N4 handsdown.
Htc phones arent future proof
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I would wait for 6 months and buy the next htc. This one is almost there but not quite yet.
Made my choice
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Made my choice
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And a good choice that is! The One is an excellent phone but once you go aosp it's hard to go back to OEM skins, especially with software updates and the next version of Android is nearing ever close and you'll get to enjoy pretty much soon after rather than wait for carrier or OEM to update them!
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I've been debating buying a Nexus 4 for awhile. At this point, do you guys still think its worth it? I've heard rumors that they might be coming out with a new model this year, plus we have the GS4 and the HTCOne coming out very shortly. Do you guys think its worth the money? I really like the OS, no carrier stuff in it. Plus I'm off contract with ATT, so I dont have to worry about that, ill have good service.
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I would still buy it. The N5 is still a rumour and anyway regardless if it does come out you'll always get OS updates before Samsung and HTC.
Maybe wait for a while for the much rumoured Motorola x? Nexus 4 is worth the money. You get what you paid for. Except for sd card and battery life, everything about this is excellent! I am overlooking the camera cuz no one should expect a dslr quality image from a mobile phone.
I am very happy with my nexus 4. Whoever I show it to, is really pleased with design of this device. They have never heard of this phone. In fact the nexus line. Imho, if you look for features on a smartphone go for Samsung, if you look for pure stock experience with updates and support go for nexus 4.
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Just buy it For example, look at the galaxy nexus its been 2 years since its release and its still going strong
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Nexus 4 was released in November. Today it's the 1st of April. Yep, almost a year, only some 7 months short..
Hmm OK, I'll probably pick one up then. I'm just tired of always purchasing the newest handsets to have the features, i just want them when they come out lol. Plus i really like how smooth the android experience is with how google sets up their phones. Are they really heavy by chance?
And I also don't think nexus 5 will support sd card, instead more storage size will be available along with cloud
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Hmm OK, I'll probably pick one up then. I'm just tired of always purchasing the newest handsets to have the features, i just want them when they come out lol. Plus i really like how smooth the android experience is with how google sets up their phones. Are they really heavy by chance?
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Heavy?????? I wouldn't say so at 139 grams.
It is hard to me to get any other android phone these days. I used to work at sprint and hated that they weren't going to have nexus 4, galaxy nexus was just too old at the time and with no voice and data...
I have used gs3 and one x plenty, neither work as well as stock android. Touch wiz is buggy and takes away core features while adding new ones that don't work too well, aside from being very laggy compared to stock.
Sense is not bad, but multitasking on it is horrific, even if you root it.
Both aren't great with software updates, HTC ones never come and Samsung ones end up buggy in most cases.
Motorola ui thus far is too inferior to even consider. Point is, no thing really compared to stock in my opinion. You may see much better benchmarks on gs4 but I doubt day to day it'd prove as stable and smooth as n4.
So, to me... Yes, worth the money, specially considering you'd get one for less than $400 with no contract! My only major issue with n4 is the antenna, it is subpar compared to other devices, same was for gn.
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a year old lol its not even 5 month old yet came out the back end of November 2012
What I suggest is find a decently spec phone from sprint and put AOSP on the device and tweak the hell out of it.
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Yeah, i just bought one. I hear the camera is pretty bad, but i never take pictures. I'm sure if i need to it will work for me. Everything else I've heard is positive. Can't wait to get it. I'm going to be going from LTE to HSPA again though, that should still be plenty fast for me.
lol @ almost a year old. April 13th will be 5 months. And yes i would suggest it if you like stock android. If your more into skins and bloat, go for the HTC one or the S4 at nearly double the price.
Yeah, that's my fault. I thought they came out last summer, didn't know they were that new yet. I'm just tired of all the manufacturers screwing with the phones, and the constant problems. Plus the fact that you never see updates, ever. I have a OneX now, and im so tired of how sluggish and slow it is. Plus i have constant problems with it anymore.
Just hoping this is a good move. I can't wait to get it and start using it.
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Yeah, that's my fault. I thought they came out last summer, didn't know they were that new yet. I'm just tired of all the manufacturers screwing with the phones, and the constant problems. Plus the fact that you never see updates, ever. I have a OneX now, and im so tired of how sluggish and slow it is. Plus i have constant problems with it anymore.
Just hoping this is a good move. I can't wait to get it and start using it.
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updates are immediately, you will never regret a Nexus phone
I've asked myself the same questions as yourself before buying myself the nexus 4.
First, looking at timeline of nexus device releases, I've noticed it releases one at every year. So i assume the next nexus phone will only be here by November-December 2013 even if it will be announced at the May Google I/O.
Galaxy S4 is indeed a great device specwise (even better if you can get the 8 core version). But for me, it's still not a Nexus device, the build quality must be inferior to the current Nexus 4 (based on S3), looks exactly like the S3 which is EXTREMELY popular device (not unique), and the Nexus 4 is much more affordable priced.
HTC One, the only thing that will attract me over the nexus 4 is the full aluminum body. Not a Sense fan. That's it.
So with all those, i ended up with the Nexus 4 and I don't regret it.
Its not even halfway to a year old. Its not outdated hardware. S4 Pro is still one of Qualcomms fastest chips. and the Snapdragon 600 uses the same gpu "Adreno 320"
Almost a year? N4 might be too complicated for you.
And yeah google will release another nexus phone...probably 7months from. The N4 is still the best android phone out and it is the best out of the box android device I've used in 4yrs of android by far.
Its blazing fast despite using an older soc. Faster as there's hardly any overlay on it. Next phone will probably be the X phone which will rumoured boasts the S800 which will be fast but the N4 is no slouch.
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0rigin said:
Nexus 4 was released in November. Today it's the 1st of April. Yep, almost a year, only some 7 months short..
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And most people didn't get their until January!
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I had bought a N4 in January this year and gave it to my cousin last month. Now I'm using her aged Galaxy S and need to upgrade sooner or later.
The N4 still looks to be the best phone for my needs, but I'm also intrigued by the possible N5 in a couple of months.
Shall I get the N4 now or wait for N5 for 2-3 months?
srathi said:
I had bought a N4 in January this year and gave it to my cousin last month. Now I'm using her aged Galaxy S and need to upgrade sooner or later.
The N4 still looks to be the best phone for my needs, but I'm also intrigued by the possible N5 in a couple of months.
Shall I get the N4 now or wait for N5 for 2-3 months?
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Either way you could probably wait for the N5 come out before you decide on anything because if you get the N4 it'll be cheaper when the N5 is out or get the N5 if you decide you like it.
You can always wait for the next big thing or you can buy right now what you want.
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N4 was good but is actually dated now, IMO. These things have very short lives at the top. Get a newly announced phone.
NCguy said:
N4 was good but is actually dated now, IMO. These things have very short lives at the top. Get a newly announced phone.
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Yeah man, 4 krait cores and 2gb of ram is so out of date..
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Wait for nexus 99! It's supposed to be a beast!
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Yeah man, 4 krait cores and 2gb of ram is so out of date..
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No LTE, a not so great camera, and pretty bad battery do make it a bit dated. The software runs great on the N4. But there are some definite hardware limitations that need to be upgraded.
bozzykid said:
No LTE, a not so great camera, and pretty bad battery do make it a bit dated. The software runs great on the N4. But there are some definite hardware limitations that need to be upgraded.
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LTE isn't everywhere and its nothing special, why post in the nexus 4 thread if gonna diss it?
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bozzykid said:
No LTE, a not so great camera, and pretty bad battery do make it a bit dated. The software runs great on the N4. But there are some definite hardware limitations that need to be upgraded.
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Running LTE as we speak! It's pretty damn fast!
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No LTE, a not so great camera, and pretty bad battery do make it a bit dated. The software runs great on the N4. But there are some definite hardware limitations that need to be upgraded.
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LTE is easily achievable for someone with technical skills. I also don't really like the battery and the lack of an SD card.
NExus 4 is still a good phone. I got one about six weeks ago and it's great for me.
It all just depends on what you want and how long you are willing to wait. I have no idea when the N5 will be announced, but if you think you can wait for it to come out, then wait. Even if you decide you'd rather go with the N4, then you can get it cheaper when the N5 rolls out. Either way, if you wait you win, you either get the newest device or you get a still pretty good phone on the cheap.
Of course, if you can't wait, you are still getting a pretty good phone in the N4.
In my opinion, in the end either way you come out with a pretty good phone.
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No LTE, a not so great camera, and pretty bad battery do make it a bit dated. The software runs great on the N4. But there are some definite hardware limitations that need to be upgraded.
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If you had thrown in the lack of SD card argument you would've hit every reason people were telling us to not get the phone on launch day.
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LTE is easily achievable for someone with technical skills. I also don't really like the battery and the lack of an SD card.
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LTE only works on band 4 which is rarely used in the US except on T-Mobile. AT&T only use band 4 in a few places. This is not a LTE phone for 99% of people.
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Cream$ickleHJ said:
LTE isn't everywhere and its nothing special, why post in the nexus 4 thread if gonna diss it?
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I love my N4 but it is lacking in hardware compared to many of the latest phones. I will certainly be updating when the new Nexus comes out later this year.
I'm now on my 3rd nexus 4 because the Sammy s4 and the HTC one just didn't do it for me. After I brought them .
The nexus 4 won't be outdated for a long time. All this jargon about more cores...ghzzzz...ram.... Etc will make nothing any more then what it can already do. The n4 runs like a gem. My battery is lasting more then 22 hours. Screen is perfect. Memory is suffient. Ram is fine. Speed is awesome. Camera is great with some tweeks. Lte runs fine.
The only reason ppl change soon is because of advertisement and bigger numbers mean better ... Comparing my n4 to an s4 I had its so much more smoother and better on most tasks.
Hell even the galaxy nexus is still a cracking phone.
Get the n5 if you feel it will bring more into your life. I can bet most of its features will be portable asap....
Either way a nexus is a great phone.
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wardy01 said:
I'm now on my 3rd nexus 4 because the Sammy s4 and the HTC one just didn't do it for me. After I brought them .
The nexus 4 won't be outdated for a long time. All this jargon about more cores...ghzzzz...ram.... Etc will make nothing any more then what it can already do. The n4 runs like a gem. My battery is lasting more then 22 hours. Screen is perfect. Memory is suffient. Ram is fine. Speed is awesome. Camera is great with some tweeks. Lte runs fine.
The only reason ppl change soon is because of advertisement and bigger numbers mean better ... Comparing my n4 to an s4 I had its so much more smoother and better on most tasks.
Hell even the galaxy nexus is still a cracking phone.
Get the n5 if you feel it will bring more into your life. I can bet most of its features will be portable asap....
Either way a nexus is a great phone.
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The biggest gripe about the device is probably the storage. Hardly getting by with the 16gb since I use it for music as well. Have about 1gb of space left which I reserve for downloading roms and whatnot and I barely have any music stored on it. Lack of LTE out of the box was also a pain for a couple months before I decided to go on XDA forums since I am on T-Mobile. If T-Mobile is in your area and you have good coverage, no reason not to switch to them since they don't have contracts and have the cheapest unlimited plan. Either way, just wait for the N5 announcement so you can either get the N5 if you decide that you want better features right out of the box or get the N4 and save a bunch of money.
Grow up.. do a market research and decide for yourself.. seriously.. ppl want everything told to them these days..
NCguy said:
N4 was good but is actually dated now, IMO.
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What exactly is outdated?!
Two things that You can get "better" with newer phone:
1) FHD screen (why do You need this? N4 screen is HQ allready)
2) More pixels to camera (and as You know - more pixels doesn't mean BETTER camera)
Nexus 4 is great phone but you can think htc one or s4 if you have money to buy them.
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This is why I'm starting to hate the android mainstream community, all you talk about is the Latest HTC or Samsung Device and brag about specs...those are not the only phones available,..I don't know how apple people stand that **** either
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My two cents. I knew about the moto x, and possible nexus 5 but I went with the nexus 4 because its well-known inside and out. Pure Google, or nodded Google for us modders, and its half the price(or a quarter of the price through T-Mobile) than the "latest and greatest" which honestly aren't that great. I get in the 20k mark on antutu, only to be beat out by the one and s4. The camera isn't that bad, and its loads better than some of my older phones, and most importantly no skinning or waiting for updates.
The nexus 5 honestly will probably be slightly better but I love my nexus 4. I'd say go for it now as the new phone may have another guarded Qualcomm chip. At least this one isn't so guarded.
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