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Who is dumping the N4 for the galaxy s4?

Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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I'm sure you aren't, but I love my N4. I bought it for development. Good luck with your S4.
Oh, and INB4L.

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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Not getting the s4, maybe xperia z if Sony gets their sh*t together and releases c6606 soon. I don't use my phone much for gaming anymore, especially larger games like NFS. That's what the N10 is for.

I won't get a S4 unless I win one

I'll probably get one for my girl in a couple months when people who can't pay their bill start selling them on craigslist. I'm ok with my nexus for now, at least till the next one comes out
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Absolutely no chance. 16GB is more than enough for me, Touchwiz is hideous, Exynos devices are notoriously difficult to port AOSP roms to and the device itself will probably be hideous too. I'd much rather have my N4

only is samsung blows the htc one away, i loved the s2 but loathe the build quality of the s3

nex4 is fine, until nexus 5 is out. then i'll switch. its not about specs. i want a free and unregulated android, google is the only one who provides that. i love software and seeing it progress, i couldn't cope with being locked out of everything that concerns android, for a couple of gb. i can't even imagine how a samsung customer watches the I/O, probably they don't, but if they do - how do they manage seeing all the nice things knowing full well its not for them. don't they feel strange when 2 hours after its over leaks rain over xda and everyone's running the latest and greatest, and they just have to wait until next fall?

If it's not vanilla Android then it doesn't get any thought from me
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persheshhater said:
Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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This is why I have the N7
And no I will not switch either. I was close to buying a s3, but the software wasn't up to par with what I am used to. My last device was the Sensation and I took off Sense 3.0 as fast as I could for JB lol. Like moles said, the customizations in just plain Android is great IMO, no need to embellish it with multiple windows or smartscrolling

It will sell on name alone regardless looking and feeling like any other TW device
I don't need a still plastic-y, spec bumped Galaxy S3. After owning the Nexus 4, Samsung is child's play. I've owned and used over a dozen android phones since '08 and the Nexus 4 is the best I've owned/used.
Still, I can't wait to at least play with the Galaxy S4 even though it will feel like an S2 and S3.

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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Not a chance. I have a N10 for things like that, didnt like the build of my Galaxy Nexus (Samsung), dont want a bigger screen and think the skins are horrid.

I love my N4 and won't want a GS4...am I curious about it and its hardware? Sure I am a tech nut and am always curious about new stuff...just like when the new iPhones come out I sit and watch the apple videos and such to learn about it...does it mean I want either? Hell no I don't like touch wiz, or the fact that Samsung still uses hard ware buttons and I don't like iOS or the fact that it hasn't changed in 4 or 5 years other than little things or craptastic things like siri...I love owning nexus devices for one simple reason...the software...besides that this phone is fast as heck on the processor side of things and it just so happens to be one hell of a good looking phone with the added bonus of being unlocked and not bound to some 2 year agreement makes it all the more sweeter with out shelling out $600+ like I would if I wanted the newest galaxy s iteration.
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I'm sure you aren't, but I love my N4. I bought it for development. Good luck with your S4.
Oh, and INB4L.
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Lol how u know i am not? And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support. First i thought 16gb would be enough, then i started feeling it is very limiting not to have the opten of an external sd card (very practical) also the camera quality of the n4 is not one of the best in the market. Anyways yes (the cheap quality of the galaxy+amoled screen in the sun sucks) will see what the s4 has to offer tmrw.
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Lol how u know i am not? And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support. First i thought 16gb would be enough, then i started feeling it is very limiting not to have the opten of an external sd card (very practical) also the camera quality of the n4 is not one of the best in the market. Anyways yes (the cheap quality of the galaxy+amoled screen in the sun sucks) will see what the s4 has to offer tmrw.
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I have owned the Galaxy S, S2, S3 ,Note and Note2 and i liked them all (especialy the Note2) but Nexus devices have something extra imo. Easy to root and restore, fast, no bloatware, and always the latest updates and getting them first.

I think my avatar and device roster answers the question.

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And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support.
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dev support doesnt mean crap when they have no sources. you get a lot of devs supporting one another by lending a shoulder to cry on or distributing kleenex. i am a follower of teamhacksungs blogs and dev g+ accounts, i like to read what they do. if you have nerves you best go there and take a good look what happenes when samsung releases the next big closed thing coz these guys are basically ****ed, they can sit down now for months and hack stupid things that should be open in the firstplace.

I just don't think an upgrade is necessary. 720p to 1080p is not that big of a difference compared to the jump from QHD or WVGA to 720p, and the S4 Pro is handling everything with ease. When the processor starts falling behind that I can notice it in daily use, or one of the technologies advances in a major way (battery, maybe?), I don't think I will be selling my nexus for another phone.

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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Sell it to me
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I rather wait till nexus 5

[Q] Should I buy a Nexus 4 with it being almost a year old?

I've been debating buying a Nexus 4 for awhile. At this point, do you guys still think its worth it? I've heard rumors that they might be coming out with a new model this year, plus we have the GS4 and the HTCOne coming out very shortly. Do you guys think its worth the money? I really like the OS, no carrier stuff in it. Plus I'm off contract with ATT, so I dont have to worry about that, ill have good service.
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I would still buy it. The N5 is still a rumour and anyway regardless if it does come out you'll always get OS updates before Samsung and HTC.

Maybe wait for a while for the much rumoured Motorola x? Nexus 4 is worth the money. You get what you paid for. Except for sd card and battery life, everything about this is excellent! I am overlooking the camera cuz no one should expect a dslr quality image from a mobile phone.
I am very happy with my nexus 4. Whoever I show it to, is really pleased with design of this device. They have never heard of this phone. In fact the nexus line. Imho, if you look for features on a smartphone go for Samsung, if you look for pure stock experience with updates and support go for nexus 4.
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Just buy it For example, look at the galaxy nexus its been 2 years since its release and its still going strong
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Nexus 4 was released in November. Today it's the 1st of April. Yep, almost a year, only some 7 months short..

Hmm OK, I'll probably pick one up then. I'm just tired of always purchasing the newest handsets to have the features, i just want them when they come out lol. Plus i really like how smooth the android experience is with how google sets up their phones. Are they really heavy by chance?

And I also don't think nexus 5 will support sd card, instead more storage size will be available along with cloud
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Hmm OK, I'll probably pick one up then. I'm just tired of always purchasing the newest handsets to have the features, i just want them when they come out lol. Plus i really like how smooth the android experience is with how google sets up their phones. Are they really heavy by chance?
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Heavy?????? I wouldn't say so at 139 grams.

It is hard to me to get any other android phone these days. I used to work at sprint and hated that they weren't going to have nexus 4, galaxy nexus was just too old at the time and with no voice and data...
I have used gs3 and one x plenty, neither work as well as stock android. Touch wiz is buggy and takes away core features while adding new ones that don't work too well, aside from being very laggy compared to stock.
Sense is not bad, but multitasking on it is horrific, even if you root it.
Both aren't great with software updates, HTC ones never come and Samsung ones end up buggy in most cases.
Motorola ui thus far is too inferior to even consider. Point is, no thing really compared to stock in my opinion. You may see much better benchmarks on gs4 but I doubt day to day it'd prove as stable and smooth as n4.
So, to me... Yes, worth the money, specially considering you'd get one for less than $400 with no contract! My only major issue with n4 is the antenna, it is subpar compared to other devices, same was for gn.
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a year old lol its not even 5 month old yet came out the back end of November 2012

What I suggest is find a decently spec phone from sprint and put AOSP on the device and tweak the hell out of it.
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Yeah, i just bought one. I hear the camera is pretty bad, but i never take pictures. I'm sure if i need to it will work for me. Everything else I've heard is positive. Can't wait to get it. I'm going to be going from LTE to HSPA again though, that should still be plenty fast for me.

lol @ almost a year old. April 13th will be 5 months. And yes i would suggest it if you like stock android. If your more into skins and bloat, go for the HTC one or the S4 at nearly double the price.

Yeah, that's my fault. I thought they came out last summer, didn't know they were that new yet. I'm just tired of all the manufacturers screwing with the phones, and the constant problems. Plus the fact that you never see updates, ever. I have a OneX now, and im so tired of how sluggish and slow it is. Plus i have constant problems with it anymore.
Just hoping this is a good move. I can't wait to get it and start using it.

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Yeah, that's my fault. I thought they came out last summer, didn't know they were that new yet. I'm just tired of all the manufacturers screwing with the phones, and the constant problems. Plus the fact that you never see updates, ever. I have a OneX now, and im so tired of how sluggish and slow it is. Plus i have constant problems with it anymore.
Just hoping this is a good move. I can't wait to get it and start using it.
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updates are immediately, you will never regret a Nexus phone

I've asked myself the same questions as yourself before buying myself the nexus 4.
First, looking at timeline of nexus device releases, I've noticed it releases one at every year. So i assume the next nexus phone will only be here by November-December 2013 even if it will be announced at the May Google I/O.
Galaxy S4 is indeed a great device specwise (even better if you can get the 8 core version). But for me, it's still not a Nexus device, the build quality must be inferior to the current Nexus 4 (based on S3), looks exactly like the S3 which is EXTREMELY popular device (not unique), and the Nexus 4 is much more affordable priced.
HTC One, the only thing that will attract me over the nexus 4 is the full aluminum body. Not a Sense fan. That's it.
So with all those, i ended up with the Nexus 4 and I don't regret it.

Its not even halfway to a year old. Its not outdated hardware. S4 Pro is still one of Qualcomms fastest chips. and the Snapdragon 600 uses the same gpu "Adreno 320"

Almost a year? N4 might be too complicated for you.
And yeah google will release another nexus phone...probably 7months from. The N4 is still the best android phone out and it is the best out of the box android device I've used in 4yrs of android by far.

Its blazing fast despite using an older soc. Faster as there's hardly any overlay on it. Next phone will probably be the X phone which will rumoured boasts the S800 which will be fast but the N4 is no slouch.
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Nexus 4 was released in November. Today it's the 1st of April. Yep, almost a year, only some 7 months short..
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And most people didn't get their until January!
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Future updates with nexus device?

Hi all,
Being a new proud owner of an ACTUAL Nexus phone. I am trying to get a picture of what the future of this phone may be. Is there anyone who owns an older Nexus that is still getting OTA updates. Now, let me say that of course I know I can always root and rom untill the phone explodes, but what of OTA updates? Are we looking at a year maybe two of OTA's before this phone becomes un-supported? I am looking for historical information but I can't seem to find any article or post in regards. What is the experience of other past Nexus owners? Just some good conversation I thought. Thanks!

About 2 years
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About 2 years
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To give some perspective, the Nexus S was supported until 4.1.2, after shipping with 2.3 over 2 years ago. The Galaxy Nexus is currently still supported and has been updated to 4.2.2 and will likely be updated to 5.0 along with the Nexus 4 in May after Google I/O. You can expect the Nexus 4 to be supported until early 2015 or so.

Even if we lose support, we have an amazing dev team. So just sit back and relax.

This is something I also took into consideration when I purchased this device. If you ask me, we are getting plenty of Bang-for-our-Buck. A great processor, a good-size screen, good amount of RAM, Google-direct updates, and a great Dev Community, The last two, in-particular, are the main reason why the Nexus 4 will have longevity over say the Galaxy S3 or even (I think) the Galaxy S4. While Google was behind on the initial demand of the product, I do not believe they will fall behind on the software this phone. I don't know how the Galaxy Nexus was received at launch but this thing flew off the shelves and was talked about ALL over the internet. I don't think Google is done with this phone just yet. I hope for 2-3 (maybe even 4) years of active Android updates.

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This is something I also took into consideration when I purchased this device. If you ask me, we are getting plenty of Bang-for-our-Buck. A great processor, a good-size screen, good amount of RAM, Google-direct updates, and a great Dev Community, The last two, in-particular, are the main reason why the Nexus 4 will have longevity over say the Galaxy S3 or even (I think) the Galaxy S4. While Google was behind on the initial demand of the product, I do not believe they will fall behind on the software this phone. I don't know how the Galaxy Nexus was received at launch but this thing flew off the shelves and was talked about ALL over the internet. I don't think Google is done with this phone just yet. I hope for 2-3 (maybe even 4) years of active Android updates.
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Yeah I hope so too. Although 4 years may be a little stretch lol. I like this phone too. I honestly think if the Nexus 5 has a 5" screen I won't want it. This phone is hard to use with one hand at times when I need to stretch out to reach that back button. It's a good size. Nice screen, and solid fast hardware too. Just get a nice case for it...
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I think the support will last longer and longer for Nexus devices as they are more capable. Obviously a single core Nexus 1 had a limited future with the speed of development of Android. I think with a quad core phone like the Nexus 4, we could probably expect a fair bit of longevity with regards to OS updates.

Who keeps the phone for more than two years anyways....

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Who keeps the phone for more than two years anyways....
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I think one of the issues we're contending here is that with our processing power getting to the point where we're rivalling computers, how powerful are phones going to have to be to force our N4s into obsolescence? From a hardware standpoint, it's not as likely. And forced software obsolescence... that's a whole other problem

Even if we only get updates for two years, we typically get them 4 months before everyone else.
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How long after an announcement do we get the update? A week or two?
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My fear is not updates, I'm quite sure we will get them. But what good are updates if my battery doesn't hold as much power anymore? One thing is clear for me though. Only nexus phones in future.
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How long after an announcement do we get the update? A week or two?
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Couple hours of them being released.
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shadehh said:
My fear is not updates, I'm quite sure we will get them. But what good are updates if my battery doesn't hold as much power anymore? One thing is clear for me though. Only nexus phones in future.
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Isn't the battery good for something like 800 charge cycles?
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Isn't the battery good for something like 800 charge cycles?
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Well I did read that it is good for 800 cycles and it the life cycle increases the slower the phone is charged (?) Can anyone confirm the latter as true? Cause if that's the case I will get me a charger that really is slow. Since I only ever seem to plug in my phone at night before my sleep
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Well I did read that it is good for 800 cycles and it the life cycle increases the slower the phone is charged (?) Can anyone confirm the latter as true? Cause if that's the case I will get me a charger that really is slow. Since I only ever seem to plug in my phone at night before my sleep
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Well, it's not the charging speed that matters. It's the heat that's caused by the process of charging that damages the battery.
The faster your battery is charged, the hotter it will become. The higher the battery temperature, the faster it will deteriorate.

Just my two cents.
Correct me if I'm wrong but so far the reason Google gave for not stopping updates to their older devices was because they simply weren't powerful enough to handle the newer Android versions. Based on this, I feel our phone will continue to get updates for a minimum of 4 years. Let me explain.
Back then cramming great hardware into phones was still at a very nascent stage. High tech phones were pretty new, and equally unheard of. The focus was mainly on Software, and lesser on hardware. But that's not the case today. Today most companies are embroiled into a "hardware race", something like we the "megapixel race" we have seen. And I think (after doing a bit of research) the hardware race as peaked. Software is what is going to attract the customers now. Hardware gimmicks will soon stop. Today phones are more powerful than PCs which are a few years old. Android versions, along with most apps, don't even make full use of 4 cores. We never really even come close to utilising the full 2 GB of RAM. 720p is a resolution high enough for any device. The only place where we lag is the GPU, but even that's pretty decent. I doubt any Android version will REQUIRE more than 4 cores anytime soon. Android is a platform for all types of phones. High end as well as low end. If the minimum requirement is 8 cores, they won't be able to sell low end phones anymore. Which pretty much halves their market. And I doubt they want that.
However now we have reached a point where hardware is far superior to the software that operates on it. One example I can give you is the difference between the Samsung Galaxy s1, s2, s3, s4. The difference between each successor and predecessor is huge. The smallest gap witnessed is between the s3 and the s4. The main selling point of Samsung is in the s4 is the software, not the hardware, as (largely) was the case in the previous versions.
Also, Google doesn't make much money from the selling of phones. It's main source of revenue is from the software that runs inside our phones. I only see two reasons for Google to stop providing updates for our phones :
1 - It might get too tedious to provide the updates for a large number of devices.
2 - They might want people to shift to Motorola.
Again, this is just what I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Want to buy Nexus 4. Still a good device?

Hey guys,
I am thinking about getting a Nexus 4 to replace my HTC Sensation. The Sensation has many problems such as huge battery drain and it gets extremely hot during usage. So I thought the Nexus 4 would be a great idea. Pure Android (huge fan of that, was using CM for a long time on my Senny) and Google Support sound good and the price seems to be okay to (I could buy a 16GB variant for about 310€).
Is this phone great? Is it still worth buying considering it's already nearly a year old? Does it have some know problems such as huge battery drain or display problems?
I need this phone for browsing, using the calendar, writing emails/sms and sometimes taking photos. I don't play any games on it except 4 pictures 1 word.
Thanks in advance!

I too came from a Sensation, and it's a fine upgrade, for all the reasons you mention. Perhaps not as durable as HTC's build quality, so be sure to include a decent cover (I use the Diztronic TPU and it looks factory) to protect that beautiful glass. It's a joy to use..you can't go wrong. Cheers!

I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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I came from a galaxy s2, and previously HOX tegra. I bought a N4 2 weeks ago, and in stock its pretty smooth, awesome i'd say. Better price/performance choice. You wont regret
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I bought a Nex4 about 6 weeks ago after being a long term BB user, our company provide BB but have just let us go BYOD. I got N4 to replace the BB and so far it hasn't disappointed in any way. I also wanted the pure Android experience after my N10. The phone has been a good choice.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.

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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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The Lumia 1020 would be out of the price range. I'd never pay 400€+ for a phone I only use for work. I probably can't wait till the next release because the Senny really bugs me. I can't use a phone which burns in my hand because it's getting extremely hot while chewing through battery like nothing. My Sensation barely gets through the day with moderate use.
€: And I don't like WP because I'm a huge fan of costumization.

Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.

Well you can go on buying Nexus 4, everything is a beauty when you compare prices and then it is a google phone so it always have it perks.
If you think you should wait for nexus 5 then its not very much pretty soon bcz this time google launched s4 and htc one as google variant which means next nexus will take time.
Your tasks which u need to perform as you have mentioned would all be performed very well.
Tip I can give even for better battery.
Unlock the bootloader, use custom recovery such as CWM and flash CM 10.1 stable releases which ever is latest.
Find franco kernel and flash that and for better colours use its colour profile.
You will have an outstanding experiance with great display and great battery time.
Best of luck.
NOTE. All decision is urs what ever suits you best.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.

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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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To each their own, I cannot speak for the needs of TC nor their personal interests. Whether he's comfortable with waiting X months is currently unknown and has not been divulged in this topic, so we can agree to disagree.

He said he probably can't wait for the next release because his phone bugs him.
Even a device like the HTC first would suit him fine hardware and software wise. Not unlocked and cheap of course ( don't even think it launched outside the US or unlocked) but just talking the device itself
There are plenty of users who are not concerned with the I can read the spec sheet pissing matches. Wait for the latest and greatest chip so they can have a higher score in benchmarks etc.

Its definitely still worth buying full price. Its a great device especially if you're a fan of stock android like you said.
Happy phoning.

I really don't need high specs. Benchmarks never intersted me because at the end you probably won't feel any difference between for example the snapdragon 600 and the snapdragon 800 in everyday use. I just want the phone to work well without stuttering and without any hick ups.
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If you need a phone now, just go for it. If you are not in a hurry, you can wait and see what comes up. IMO I usually don't want the first batch of the phone anyway since they are usually the ones with problems.

just buy it
I highly recommend nexus 4.. Believe me it's as smooth as HTC one out even better..
Root and flash cyanogenmod and Franco kernel... That made me a delighted user from a happy user...
Besides it'll have developer support for hell lot of a time to come... Even after people forget about HTC one and s4..
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I'm going to buy it at the end of August and I think it is still worth it. However reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259334 scaried me!

Nexus 4 or nexus 5??

I am confused, I had a galaxy note 2 for few months but i recently lost it I am currently using a non smartphone and I know that lots of new phone will be announced next week at IFA berlin 2013 but am not willing to spend a lot on a phone after losing my note 2.
Nexus 4 prices are gone down to clear out the stock for nexus 5 but am not sure if it will be as cheap as nexus 4 was when it first launched. what do you suggest, should i wait till nexus 5 is announced and see if its worth it or get a nexus 4 now?
I also wanted to know if the battery life is good enough to last me a whole day since my note 2 had 3100mah compared to nexus 4 2000mah?
thanks in advance

The battery is good, atleast for me, I can easly get 1 day out of it.
Hmm well PERSONALLY I would buy the N4. But that's because I can't wait when buying something new and because I think that the N4 is already so smooth that you don't some more cores/ghz etc like the N5, because how much faster can it get? The heaviest games are already smooth so...
Maybe only a camera improvement would be nice.
Eitherway it's up to you, these are just my 2 cents.
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Get n4 !
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Nexus 4 is indeed an amazing phone with the best pure android experience.
Of course all top branded high end androids will have support community for custom Roms and latest android features.
If you want some more customized UI like touchwiz or sense you can try something else.
But take into consideration that Nexus 4 is a value for money device with high performance which leaves most users satisfied.
It also has a unique design , a nice manufacturer and support both LG and Google.
I would recommend you to give it a try.
( another option for me is Moto X . very nice looks , customizable case , nice features etc. )

Just to reiterate what the other's have said, it's a brilliant value for money device, and recently in the UK at least there has been a 33% price drop from £239 to £159 which is absolutely crazy for a device of this spec. That's like a quarter of the price of the S4 which experiences more lag than the Nexus 4 if kept on touchwiz.
If you're one of those people who gets bored of the phone quite quickly, wait for the N5, I'm sure the price point will be just as good.

Nexus 5 isnt out yet and look at those people coming with their answers to buy n4.
First of all op it would be wise to sit and wait for n5 to come out and compare it on the based reviews with n4.
Then and only then you can say which phone suits you best.
Seriously, you guys sick the **** out of me with your adoration towards n4.
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I recently broke my Note 2 and bought a Nexus 4 to replace it, so I feel I should chime in.
1) The Nexus has horrible battery life compared to the Note 2. I wish it wasn't so, but I've recently even gotten a battery pack to recharge it on the go. It lasts maybe 50% as long, and this is with the most recent update (jwr66y). --- EDIT: OP asked if he could use it all day. For me, it's a maybe. With light usage, yes, but not if you use it like you could the Note 2.
2) Switching from the big screen to the small one has been a real challenge. I've caught myself looking at tablets a lot lately, and I never felt I needed one with the Note.
3) While pure android is nice, touchwiz is nice too. I consider them a toss up.
4) The Nexus 4 is a very nice device. It has good build quality, a nice screen, runs fast, and enabling LTE is easy (with T-Mo at least).
Bottom line, I'm seriously considering buying the Note 3 when it releases in the coming weeks, and keeping the Nexus as a backup. It's either that or getting a tablet, but I'd much rather continue to have 1 device.

might as well wait for the nexus 6, itll be even better than the 5 :silly:

simms22 said:
might as well wait for the nexus 6, itll be even better than the 5 :silly:
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It's different when there's maybe a 2 month wait vs. a 14 month wait. I'll be waiting for the 5.

Buy N4 and then sell it off resale value will ofc be good till N5 is released.

talz13 said:
It's different when there's maybe a 2 month wait vs. a 14 month wait. I'll be waiting for the 5.
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The guy with the high post count(sims) clearly missed the whole point.
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talz13 said:
It's different when there's maybe a 2 month wait vs. a 14 month wait. I'll be waiting for the 5.
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sonikk4ever said:
The guy with the high post count(sims) clearly missed the whole point.
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lol, i think you missed my point, it was an attempt at humor. thats why i included this guy--> :silly:

Well, I have a gnex and a nexus 4, and the nexus 4 is a massive improvement over the gnex, however I'm not sure a nexus 5 phone will be a massive leap over the nexus 4 unless klp is more resource heavy. My n4 is buttery smooth and I even considered buying another one just because there only 200$ now. Go for the nexus 4 and you can probably resell it in a year for 200-300$ still
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