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Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
AMoosa said:
Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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Most likely.... If the interest is their, someone will build it.
ahh yes.
AMoosa said:
Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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indeed thats the question we are all waiting for the answer to..
lets hope it helps..
An interesting concept, there are those that are asking if Windows Phone7 is going to work with the HTC HD2 as well. Be nice if we could choose either. The HD2 is a lovely piece of kit.
when is the evo actually out? nobody got a whiff of a leaked rom?
got an hd2 myself, would love to get android
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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yes, yoda.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
boomer30 said:
Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
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Joke you did get, much funny it was.
Complete my goal is
May the force be with you
I'm not so sure about this....
With the Evo not coming to UK waters and no other screen size planned this side of the pond the ROM on the HD2 may well be the only answer.
However, lets not forget.. the Evo has a lot inside which will be different to the HD2 and these short comings won't make the HD2 an Evo in disguise.
It may end up being a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
Aridon said:
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
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More like, if the right person wants it.
same processor ... different board... no go
need hlevel eprom acess ... not posible software wise
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
Lobo Lansky said:
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
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they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
blazing4phoenix said:
they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
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No its android dualbooted
http://www.neverknowtech.com/home/2010/4/25/how-to-put-android-on-your-iphone-with-video.html
XAnimal said:
No its android dualbooted
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Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
Scott Spillers said:
Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
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Tell that to Winterboard and AndroidLock. But yes, theming isn't supported natively.
However the iPhone port of Android is an actual native port, loaded using OpeniBoot, a custom "iBoot"-style bootloader. And you thought the HTCSPL system was tricky...
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johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Belated, but May the Fourth be with you.
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
Mecha2142 said:
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
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Since i've got android on my Sprint Vogue, i'd say it's possible if the right people want it to happen.
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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Short answer, no there is not. Long answer, they have come surprisingly far in porting Android to the HD2 but there is still a lot of work to be done. The developers here are flat out amazing for making it as far as they have in as short a time as they have but as of right now no it's not a "pure" ROM if by pure you mean replaces WinMo. It currently only runs off of your SDcard and shuts down the Windows Kernel to boot the Linux Kernel... But like I said, it really seems like they're not far off from what you're inquiring about which I can only assume is a NAND version.
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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It has been stated several times now that it is NOT EMULATED. Haret shuts down the Windows Kernel and starts up the Linux kernel. There is no trace of Windows running. It's done this way for several reasons - No touching the internal memory of the phone whilst in beta to prevent bricking, easier to apply rapid updates and the main reason is that it's still needed to initialise hardware.
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
Wrathlon said:
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
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And yeah, as far as the color limitation... What HE said, heh.
Wrathlon said:
It has been stated several times now that it is NOT EMULATED. Haret shuts down the Windows Kernel and starts up the Linux kernel. There is no trace of Windows running. It's done this way for several reasons - No touching the internal memory of the phone whilst in beta to prevent bricking, easier to apply rapid updates and the main reason is that it's still needed to initialise hardware.
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
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Thanks for your reply!
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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Hi, it is not a simulator or an emulator.
However, it is started from windows currently whilst development continues.
Once development is complete I assume it will be available to boot from the phones internal rom (nand).
jjones1983 said:
Short answer, no there is not. Long answer, they have come surprisingly far in porting Android to the HD2 but there is still a lot of work to be done. The developers here are flat out amazing for making it as far as they have in as short a time as they have but as of right now no it's not a "pure" ROM if by pure you mean replaces WinMo. It currently only runs off of your SDcard and shuts down the Windows Kernel to boot the Linux Kernel... But like I said, it really seems like they're not far off from what you're inquiring about which I can only assume is a NAND version.
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OK. Then I wait for more mature HD2 android ROM and the specs of Dsire HD.
aenedor said:
Hi, it is not a simulator or an emulator.
However, it is started from windows currently whilst development continues.
Once development is complete I assume it will be available to boot from the phones internal rom (nand).
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Thanks for your reply!
I thought the LCD itself was 16M colors, but it was winmo which was limiting to 65k. This isn't true?
2girls1cup said:
why don't u do some research u fuggin cumquat...u should have a post count of at least 50 before you are able to create a thread. just my opin
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Well, this thread helped me a lot! I just wanted a heads up about android development on the HD2 and I didn't have to do any search! I mean, wow...
2girls1cup said:
why don't u do some research u fuggin cumquat...u should have a post count of at least 50 before you are able to create a thread. just my opin
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It is of course better if I can do my research on my own. However, English is not my mother language, so I have problem to read through all the technical issues. I will try to learn more.
appelflap said:
Well, this thread helped me a lot! I just wanted a heads up about android development on the HD2 and I didn't have to do any search! I mean, wow...
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Seconded, I've been Googling for a definitive answer for several days now, coming up with all sorts of conflicting information (such as the app at: androidforhd2.tk -- is that app just a hoax? Watching it in Process Explorer, it seems to do pretty much nothing but animate a progress bar using VB...).
This thread is by far the most recent/straightforward answer I could've hoped for.
can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?
I would say try it.
rdejager said:
I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.
Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
sjknight413 said:
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
elelinux said:
That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!
hiato said:
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the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!
Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.
but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner
Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!
no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner
I don't know what half of it does and I've had worse case scenarios happen before and I'm just scared lol, My asus is rooted and all .... I just wanna run Ubuntu without getting rid of my stock rom or whatever
You prettymuch have to have an nvflashable sbk1 tf101 to dual boot Ubuntu, I believe.
purple.epod said:
You prettymuch have to have an nvflashable sbk1 tf101 to dual boot Ubuntu, I believe.
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Which you can't with the serials b70 and after due to no nvflash.
that is correct you need sbk1(B70 or lower) to install emmc ubuntu although if you want you can always run it in a virtual machine using terminal and a vnc viewer
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that is correct you need sbk1(B70 or lower) to install emmc ubuntu although if you want you can always run it in a virtual machine using terminal and a vnc viewer
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Is there a way of running a virtual machine on my transformer? I think I've seen something like this done with Backtrack 5 on a Xoom, but I wasn't aware of any virtualization software available for Android..
So you bought an Android tablet to run Ubuntu...
Why didn't you buy a PC?
CrazyPeter said:
So you bought an Android tablet to run Ubuntu...
Why didn't you buy a PC?
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Because of the many advantages of ARM chipsets? More efficient power consumption, less heat dissipation, etc.
You could get a net book with a decent battery, an extra gig of ram and whack ubuntu on that.
The more recent atom chips or even amd's are great for that sort of thing.
Could always put a small ssd in it too.
What sort of battery life do you expect from a TF101 with ubuntu?
Asus has promised to release a tool to unlock the Transformer bootloader (at the price of voiding your warranty). When (if?) they release it, you should be able to install Ubuntu on the newer Transformers.
mrevankyle said:
that is correct you need sbk1(B70 or lower) to install emmc ubuntu although if you want you can always run it in a virtual machine using terminal and a vnc viewer
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Yes , but if I do this will it save files i've put on the ubuntu etc oh and btw just a quick little off topic question, i rooted my tf101 with razorckal, will i still recieve the ota update for ics?
Sustantivo said:
Yes , but if I do this will it save files i've put on the ubuntu etc oh and btw just a quick little off topic question, i rooted my tf101 with razorckal, will i still recieve the ota update for ics?
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Yes, you will get the OTA update (whichi will remove root, if you just apply it)
BTW, I could imagine creating CWM image for ARM Ubuntu, but as far as I know, nobody did that yet, so it would be a DIY job
CrazyPeter said:
So you bought an Android tablet to run Ubuntu...
Why didn't you buy a PC?
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my thoughts exactly.
brando56894 said:
my thoughts exactly.
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I didn't buy it FOR ubuntu, I bought it just for tablet stuff but thought it would be cool to have ubuntu on it too, as my comptuer broke not long ago and i was running ubuntu on it
mrevankyle said:
that is correct you need sbk1(B70 or lower) to install emmc ubuntu although if you want you can always run it in a virtual machine using terminal and a vnc viewer
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So it's b70 and lower that can and not b70 and higher that can't?
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blestsol said:
So it's b70 and lower that can and not b70 and higher that can't?
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Some b70's can some b70's can't so it is generally said that b70's are incompatible just so that people with b70 sbk2's dont complain about things saying that something is compatable with b70 and lower
makes things easier on the devs
Sustantivo said:
I didn't buy it FOR ubuntu, I bought it just for tablet stuff but thought it would be cool to have ubuntu on it too, as my comptuer broke not long ago and i was running ubuntu on it
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That makes more sense. Your OP made it sound like you specifically bought it just to run Ubuntu and didn't care about Android.
hahah yeah sorry :/ it was three am hahaha, but yeah,is there a super simple way to run ubuntu , then go back to my normal android after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364095
if your tf has sbk_v1. takes 20mins with really just 1 click ^^
after installing in dualboot, you can switch from android to ubuntu and back as you wish...
First a hello to all on this N4 forum.
I've put in an order for a Nexus 4 and await delivery.
I was wondering why the need for custom ROM since this will be running Vanilla Android.
From my experience on the Atrix 4G, custom ROMs offer more functionality and better battery life at the expense of reliability. This could include reboots or app misbehaviour and degradation in the hardware.
Also I use Pdroid on my current phone. Apart from LBE can anyone suggest a security app that would work with 4.1 and 4.2?
Wrong forum. You are in the Nexus 10 forum.
nrage23 said:
Wrong forum. You are in the Nexus 10 forum.
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This. But in any case: http://lifehacker.com/5980201/are-roms-really-necessary-on-a-nexus-phone with the main point being:
The bottom line is that flashing a custom ROM gets you a ton of extra features that you won't find in stock Android.
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espionage724 said:
This. But in any case: http://lifehacker.com/5980201/are-roms-really-necessary-on-a-nexus-phone with the main point being:
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Thanks for the reply and an embarrassing mistake by me considering how long I've been on XDA.
The link answered my question.