[Q] Why Custom Rom? - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First a hello to all on this N4 forum.
I've put in an order for a Nexus 4 and await delivery.
I was wondering why the need for custom ROM since this will be running Vanilla Android.
From my experience on the Atrix 4G, custom ROMs offer more functionality and better battery life at the expense of reliability. This could include reboots or app misbehaviour and degradation in the hardware.
Also I use Pdroid on my current phone. Apart from LBE can anyone suggest a security app that would work with 4.1 and 4.2?

Wrong forum. You are in the Nexus 10 forum.

nrage23 said:
Wrong forum. You are in the Nexus 10 forum.
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This. But in any case: http://lifehacker.com/5980201/are-roms-really-necessary-on-a-nexus-phone with the main point being:
The bottom line is that flashing a custom ROM gets you a ton of extra features that you won't find in stock Android.
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espionage724 said:
This. But in any case: http://lifehacker.com/5980201/are-roms-really-necessary-on-a-nexus-phone with the main point being:
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Thanks for the reply and an embarrassing mistake by me considering how long I've been on XDA.
The link answered my question.

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Which ROM should I download?

Default Which ROM should I download?
I am currently running CyanogenMod 5.0.5.3 on my nexus one. However, I am eager to try something new. The reasons for switching are due to some stability issues with the ROM.
My checklist is quite small:
1) built in tethering
2) easy of use
3) very reliable and stable
Optional
2) would prefer support for Persian/Arabic font. however, it' is not essential
Any ideas?
you can try Enomther's latest release (1.9.2) released today; very stable with bunch of features; check out his changelog in the development section
If you want bunch of features, try Cyanogen's...
dont ask.....different ppl....diff opinions.... diff tastes.....try them....there are not many
Why not just wait for Froyo? Tethering out-of-the-box.
chowdarygm said:
dont ask.....different ppl....diff opinions.... diff tastes.....try them....there are not many
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+1 agreed...
He's posting this across multiple boards trying to get answers... as I told him on another board:
Run over to XDA and read the posts on the ROM's out there and look at the feature lists.
You really should do the legwork yourself as other have.
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The time spent to make an account and spam all these boards with this post could have been used to read the feature lists and decide on a ROM for himself.
As chowdarygm said, there are not many...
HI - well you have a decent amount of choice if you're using the nexus one. I tend to stick with roms from either @cyanogen or @kingklick92 i.e the CM rom or Desire Port respectively.
I made a blog post about it - have a read and maybe it will help with your decision.
Moving on from that there are a few enhancements you can apply to the ROM's, specifically you can 'undervolt' your ROM to save some power by moving across a new kernel.
I've tried loads of them to be honest - as earlier posters have said, the Nexus one development forum here at XDA is a great place to start, there is a stickie with a ROM list - a good start.
thanks, I appreciate it. I am still a newcomer.
acantril said:
HI - well you have a decent amount of choice if you're using the nexus one. I tend to stick with roms from either @cyanogen or @kingklick92 i.e the CM rom or Desire Port respectively.
I made a blog post about it - have a read and maybe it will help with your decision.
Moving on from that there are a few enhancements you can apply to the ROM's, specifically you can 'undervolt' your ROM to save some power by moving across a new kernel.
I've tried loads of them to be honest - as earlier posters have said, the Nexus one development forum here at XDA is a great place to start, there is a stickie with a ROM list - a good start.
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chowdarygm said:
dont ask.....different ppl....diff opinions.... diff tastes.....try them....there are not many
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I agree try them all. Im loving Kang's
blowe46 said:
thanks, I appreciate it. I am still a newcomer.
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No problem at all, if you want any more advise , let me [email protected] or blog comment
Try Kang-o-rama...
New beta is based on CM 5.0.7, includes an OC/UV/21MB kernel, mods, optimisations and some great apps.
The best thing is that it installs in one hit, works together and is nice and quick.
djmcnz said:
Try Kang-o-rama...
New beta is based on CM 5.0.7, includes an OC/UV/21MB kernel, mods, optimisations and some great apps.
The best thing is that it installs in one hit, works together and is nice and quick.
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+1 .
i keep trying all roms but at the end of the day, will be coming back to this rom
chowdarygm said:
+1 .
i keep trying all roms but at the end of the day, will be coming back to this rom
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Same here. The only mod I make to it is swapping out HelixLauncher or whatever it is for Launcher Pro, which seems to be much more stable.
I stick to the Cyanogen-based stuff because it's the standard, and also because I had a hell of a time dealing with those KingKx roms for my old G1. I was flashing and wiping so much my ass was raw, and Cyanogen roms are usually wipe-free.

[Q] Custom rom for Nexus 4

Which one is better in terms of device performance and battery consumption ?
Cyanogenmod or Paranoid Android
In my experience they are both relatively the same battery and performance.
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As is always the case in threads like this there is one answer.
Try them and see for yourself. The effectiveness of a ROM is usually a very personal thing based on how you use your phone.
Anyway where is the fun in only trying one ROM?
Sent from my Nexus 4 powered by paranoid ROM and franco.kernal
Cyanogenmod is the rom that mostly everyone bases their work/rom from. It's crazy stable for me, and battery life is really good. I'll use nothing other than CM.
Dav_prime said:
As is always the case in threads like this there is one answer.
Try them and see for yourself. The effectiveness of a ROM is usually a very personal thing based on how you use your phone.
Anyway where is the fun in only trying one ROM?
Sent from my Nexus 4 powered by paranoid ROM and franco.kernal
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To be honest, I hate backup/restore steps. As we know that installing a new ROM (in case of Nexus 4) means factory reset and complete wipe-up of the device.
One of the main objective of posting this query is to be save myself from this thing.
kalerparamvir said:
To be honest, I hate backup/restore steps. As we know that installing a new ROM (in case of Nexus 4) means factory reset and complete wipe-up of the device.
One of the main objective of posting this query is to be save myself from this thing.
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Then u never know which rom is better for U
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Unjustable said:
Then u never know which rom is better for U
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So, No Gain Without Pain. :good:
I'd go for LiquidSmooth to be fair
kasdepwel said:
Cyanogenmod is the rom that mostly everyone bases their work/rom from. It's crazy stable for me, and battery life is really good. I'll use nothing other than CM.
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not true. aosp is what most base their roms on, even cm was first based on aosp. there is no best rom, only the rom that best suits YOUR needs. try them all out, find whats best for you. besides, for best performance and battery, you want to find the best kernel for your needs, not rom.
kalerparamvir said:
To be honest, I hate backup/restore steps. As we know that installing a new ROM (in case of Nexus 4) means factory reset and complete wipe-up of the device.
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You only need to wipe on the first flash and after that 'dirty' flashing usually gives no issues (at least in my experience). Make a Titanium backup and you can restore your apps very quickly and easily (even faster using the Pro version).
simms22 said:
not true. aosp is what most base their roms on, even cm was first based on aosp. there is no best rom, only the eom that best suits YOUR needs. try them all out, find whats best for you. besides, for best performance and battery, you want to find the best kernel for your needs, not rom.
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This.

More stock based rom

The stock rom is the best, more stock based rom please.
Yes I can't say more, It's enough explicit no ? :silly:
facile12345 said:
The stock rom is the best, more stock based rom please.
Yes I can't say more, It's enough explicit no ? :silly:
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If you like stock then why flash a custom ROM? If you don't like the added functionality that custom ROMs bring then there's no point using them. Use stock rooted and be happy, but don't ask (or, by the tone of your post, demand) devs to create ROMs for you which no one else will use.
Nigeldg said:
If you like stock then why flash a custom ROM? If you don't like the added functionality that custom ROMs bring then there's no point using them. Use stock rooted and be happy, but don't ask (or, by the tone of your post, demand) devs to create ROMs for you which no one else will use.
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Dunno' Maybe because stock can be enhanced ? lol
facile12345 said:
Dunno' Maybe because stock can be enhanced ? lol
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That's what all custom ROMs are for the N4, since it runs pure Android. I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say.
Nigeldg said:
That's what all custom ROMs are for the N4, since it runs pure Android. I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say.
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Because aosp based rom are full of bugs, issues, force close and unstable ? making my n4 lagging without reason where stock doesn't have ?
But I somehow want an enhanced stock rom I don't know why.
Well maybe I could miss pie control which is the only thing that is useful in a n4 custom rom.
facile12345 said:
Because aosp based rom are full of bugs, issues, force close and unstable ? making my n4 lagging without reason where stock doesn't have ?
But I somehow want an enhanced stock rom I don't know why.
Well maybe I could miss pie control which is the only thing that is useful in a n4 custom rom.
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Dunno what you're taking about but I've experienced no lag on my N4 with stock or custom ROMs. I haven't come across a ROM which has any serious bugs or stability issues on the N4. Also, PIE is the only useful feature in your opinion. There are so many other useful features available IMO.
Nigeldg said:
Dunno what you're taking about but I've experienced no lag on my N4 with stock or custom ROMs. I haven't come across a ROM which has any serious bugs or stability issues on the N4. Also, PIE is the only useful feature in your opinion. There are so many other useful features available IMO.
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Maybe but for me it's very bugged. So I don't know what to do.
facile12345 said:
Maybe but for me it's very bugged. So I don't know what to do.
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Use stock rooted.
use rasbean_jelly_vanilla
its stock with no features but tweaked for better performance.
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=mako-vanilla
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Maybe but for me it's very bugged. So I don't know what to do.
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That makes no sense. There are no buggy roms on nexus devices. They're stable because nexus are aosp devices.
Don't make stuff up.
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zephiK said:
That makes no sense. There are no buggy roms on nexus devices. They're stable because nexus are aosp devices.
Don't make stuff up.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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Nope, not for me, my nexus 4 is seriously bugged.

The Peoples ROM: Suggest Features

Hello I am working on the first ROM for our wonderful MOTO G. this for the time will be based off 4.3. please comment features from other ROMS or Devices that you would like included in the ROM.
Update:
List of projected features.
Over/Under clocking (WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN FIRST VERSION)
Active Display
Boot Logo Animation Editing Tool
Halo and Pie
Xposed Framework
OpenPDroid
Multiwindow Feature (hopefuly)
White status bar writing and google experience launcher (when we get KitKat)
Dark UI
XDA:DevDB Information
The Peoples ROM, a ROM for the Moto G
Contributors
lamaboy99
ROM OS Version: 4.3.x Jellybean
Based On: AOSP
Version Information
Status: Testing
Created 2013-12-02
Last Updated 2013-12-02
MIUI v5 maybe?
Omni rom :b
Blablabla Tapatalk 4 blablabla Desire C
Carbon ROMs, cm and aokp all in one ?
Edit: most of the features, but I guess most important, change toggles, nav bar color, redimension, notification settings, battery icons, etc
Like I said booth cm and aokp features ?
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RestlessScreams said:
Omni rom :b
Blablabla Tapatalk 4 blablabla Desire C
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helinhof said:
MIUI v5 maybe?
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im asking for features from the ROM not the ROM
it would be nice to see "always on" from Moto X
Why not port the full rom instead of individual features?
senk1gsc said:
it would be nice to see "always on" from Moto X
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working on that first thing i started working on haha
helinhof said:
Why not port the full rom instead of individual features?
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because then you have one rom with all the features
lamaboy99 said:
working on that first thing i started working on haha
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I'm eagerly awaiting the ROM then :good:
lamaboy99 said:
working on that first thing i started working on haha
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It will burn through battery since the G doesn't have a dedicated low power chip. Even with its great battery life.
helinhof said:
It will burn through battery since the G doesn't have a dedicated low power chip. Even with its great battery life.
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Working on a fix right now not sure if it will work or not maybe two versions of the ROM one with and one without
helinhof said:
It will burn through battery since the G doesn't have a dedicated low power chip. Even with its great battery life.
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not necessarily, i had utter (which is similar) on my RAZR and the battery life was only about a hour shorter
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Working on a fix right now not sure if it will work or not maybe two versions of the ROM one with and one without
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If we have CWM you can simply make a flashable zip of this "always listening" feature one of the best things on android. The possibilities.
This ROMs will be available for both single and dual SIM versions? I'm afraid that we can't get CyanogenMod for the dual sim version of Moto G.
Honestly, unless you have something to show for it, this sort of thread belongs in general discussion and not development.
Did you read the thread that is stickied to this forum? It clearly says:
Placeholder threads posted in the development section will be removed or moved.
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I'd like a solid device build profile so that AOSP based roms can be compiled before even thinking about miscellaneous features.
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This ROMs will be available for both single and dual SIM versions? I'm afraid that we can't get CyanogenMod for the dual sim version of Moto G.
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It is going to be based off of the stock rom so hopefully yes it will be able to run on both
I'm not an expert but probably to optimize the always listening feature should be useful modifying the kernel? I mean..it only one of the four cores is used for this function while the other three sleeps, probably the battery drain would be less aggressive? Sorry it I said something wrong. Anyway this device can become GREAT with some developing so happy
gigsaw said:
I'm not an expert but probably to optimize the always listening feature should be useful modifying the kernel? I mean..it only one of the four cores is used for this function while the other three sleeps, probably the battery drain would be less aggressive? Sorry it I said something wrong. Anyway this device can become GREAT with some developing so happy
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We won't see any sort of kernel modifications until Motorola release source.
mystichobo said:
Honestly, unless you have something to show for it, this sort of thread belongs in general discussion and not development.
Did you read the thread that is stickied to this forum? It clearly says:
I'd like a solid device build profile so that AOSP based roms can be compiled before even thinking about miscellaneous features.
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It isn't aosp it is based off of stick which has already been posted. And I can ask for features I'm not toting a rom I'm asking for ideas that rule is inapplicable

4.1 Rom features currently (been out of loop)

Hi.
I've been out of the loop recently with the development of 4.4 due to a house move/ renovation.
I've had a quick look through the rom lists and I know the dev is still at an early stage however im looking for a rom with the following simple bits.
Custom nav height
Customer battery
Customer quick tiles.
Is there a rom currently that offers this
Thanks for any help
Stret
Yes there is. Wanna know which ones? Use search
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SMillerNL said:
Yes there is. Wanna know which ones? Use search
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Give up with this place sometimes. Ive already said ive had a quick look but theres a multitude of roms available.
Youve posted, so why not just say?
Congratulations on being sarcastic pratt off the year :good:
Stretlow said:
Give up with this place sometimes. Ive already said ive had a quick look but theres a multitude of roms available.
Youve posted, so why not just say?
Congratulations on being sarcastic pratt off the year :good:
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It's not an excuse to try few of them and decide which ROM fits you most.
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