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Hi guys,
i am playing with the idea to buy the droid x. i will get it with a verizon contract but can i use the device, if i travel to europe, like germany, swiss, austria...
or does it only work in the states?
any ideas?
Unfortunately no. Droid X is a CDMA phone, and most of Europe uses GSM technology, where you can swap SIM cards. There are no SIMs for CDMA.
If you have time and don't mind waiting, there is some info going around about Droid Pro, which is a global version of Droid 2. You'll be able to use that baby in Europe.
http://www.androidcentral.com/search/"droid pro"
but the droid pro comes with the keyboard or? i would like to get something without keyboard. droid x looks great.
but how does it work out?
because right now i have a blackberry from vzw and this one workes in europe. i was thinking vzw uses only cdma technology?
Typically Verizon does only use CDMA.
The upcoming Droid Pro is said to have capabilities to do either CDMA or GSM. All of the hardware will be in each phone. Verizon supposedly is going to start using SIM cards around the time of the LTE rollout which could be around the same
time the Pro is introduced.
but the question is, why does my verizon blackberry work in europe, if the only use cdma.
for me cdma sucks, first you can have either data or voice and next thing is i hate to be dictated by the providers which phones i can use or if i want a specific phone i have to change to a diffrent provider. for example the HTC EVO, good device but crappy provider...doesnt make any sense have a high-tech device on a almost no coverage provider.
but you say verizion is switching over to sim? completely or do the use both then?
what is LTE?
Snake-Plissken said:
but the question is, why does my verizon blackberry work in europe, if the only use cdma.
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You have a global BB model. It has both CDMA and GSM capabilities. it uses cdma while you're here on Verizon and your sim card in europe. There is not that many phones like that though...
hmm and thats f... up... we are living in the jet-age, everything is glocal. within one day you can be every where around the world. and we are not able to fix this problem? and its only because everybody wants to push his standard. thats a nightmare....but well maybe it will be fixed one century...
I thought the phone had to be a quad band phone... or are GSM the only ones that can be?
i called verizon and they say i cant use it overseas, because they mainly use sim technology and it is a cdma phone...
another question.
is it possibly to keep my blackberry and if i go overseas to activate the blackberry (best would be if i can do it by myself, i think there was in one of there brochures a how-to) and in the states use the droid x?
or is it hard to get it activated or maybe vzw doesnt even want that?
@Snake-Plissken
Basically your blackberry has to be unlocked. That is it needs to be able to use sims other than default carrier. If it is or if you can get it unlocked, then all you do is buy a sim card from a local operator in europe (should be cheap), put it in your phone, and that gets you on a local network.
@mcwoods
Usually a "global phone" does mean it's quad band.
@meshdub
i think there is a missunderstanding.
how should i explain it: right now i have the blackberry storm 2 but i want to get a droid phone, either droid x or incredible. I am traveling a lot. My plan is to use with vzw my droid phone and when i go on a trip to europe, i will use my blackberry with vzw but on roaming in the country.
the question is, does vzw allow the switch of my phone like that. the best would be if i can activate the desired phone by myself. i think its only a bunch of numbers which have to be dialed.
i want to use both phones with vzw but be able to switch between them.
is this possible?
Oooh I see now, sorry. I didn't realize you wanna stay on vzw in Europe. That I'm not sure, you'll have to talk to them. But usually it's pretty easy to activate new phone. You just dial verizon's activation number and go through automated prompts. I'm not sure if it's any different when dialing from overseas though.
And I have no clue how verizon operates in Europe btw, you'll need to talk to them. They might give you their sim card, or you might have to get one from local operator that's contracted with verizon. I doubt there is a lot of cdma coverage there.
i think the blackberry has already a sim-card in it, it looks like one...and i am able to use it in europe.
my plan is. using droid x in the states and before i leave i will activate my blackberry to have coverage there...
or is there any droid coming up as global phone, except this droid pro or something.... i am looking for something like the x or incredible...
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i called verizon and they say i cant use it overseas, because they mainly use sim technology and it is a cdma phone...
another question.
is it possibly to keep my blackberry and if i go overseas to activate the blackberry (best would be if i can do it by myself, i think there was in one of there brochures a how-to) and in the states use the droid x?
or is it hard to get it activated or maybe vzw doesnt even want that?
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Yes, you can have a Droid X and still use your Blackberry in Europe. I was in Europe this summer and spoke with VZW about this. They just asked me if I would like to activate my Blackberry while I was overseas.
that sounds good.
blackberry isnt that nice, but well at least i can use it...
i have been reading and searching for over an hour now here and on several pages and do not seem to find any answer froma real proffessional.
why i cant get signal after i insterted my Tmobile Sim card in my unlocked droid pro verizon ? i even tried and insterted my co worker AT&T sim card, same results, NO NETWORK FOUND.
Verizon told Motorola to block GSM networks inside the US. There is nothing wrong with your phone, but right now AT&T isn't going to work.
Check out the Droid 2 Global forums for more info. I believe folks over there are working on a solution.
Have you had the GSM antennas unlocked? When I bought my Pro I was told that in order to actually use it in Global mode (and use the GSM antenna) you have to either take it to a verizon store or call a number for them to unlock it. The GSM antenna is disabled by default.
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Have you had the GSM antennas unlocked? When I bought my Pro I was told that in order to actually use it in Global mode (and use the GSM antenna) you have to either take it to a verizon store or call a number for them to unlock it. The GSM antenna is disabled by default.
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The GSM antenna is not locked by default, but the SIM card slot is. If you wanted to take the phone to Europe and buy a pre-paid SIM to use over there (instead of Verizon's SIM) then yes, you must unlock the phone.
However, entering the SIM unlock code will not help you connect to AT&T or T-Mobile, because Verizon blocked it on the radio level.
GSM antenna unlocked?
i am not trying to be Jerk, but i have been in the cell phone repair business since 2003, and never heard of that term, is that a new term?
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Have you had the GSM antennas unlocked? When I bought my Pro I was told that in order to actually use it in Global mode (and use the GSM antenna) you have to either take it to a verizon store or call a number for them to unlock it. The GSM antenna is disabled by default.
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GSM antenna unlocked?
i am not trying to be Jerk, but i have been in the cell phone repair business since 2003, and never heard of that term, is that a new term?
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that's what i was told by a sales rep at the verizon store, so it came from a totally reliable source.
maybe I just got confused as to which was locked (sim card vs antenna)
DroidBandUnlocked - Droid Pro
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hgzndt8zBg
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that's what i was told by a sales rep at the verizon store, so it came from a totally reliable source.
maybe I just got confused as to which was locked (sim card vs antenna)
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The sales rep is a retard. Lmao.
Man, if the unlock has truly been discovered, it's going to be real tempting not to switch over to T-Mobile if Sprint lets me out of contract. I use my Droid Pro strictly as a travel phone, but if I can use it at home, too, I'd love to.
Unlocked Droid Pro for USA GSM!
This other guy on androidforums came across an unlocked DroidPro that worked with his T-Mobile Sim Card for a while until he decided to update the phone and ended up blocking his T-Mobile sim card in the end...
I kind of hope there are some other phones like that out there so I can get my hands on one of them and figure out where to look for that piece of code that blocks the phones ability to use T-mobile/AT&T networks.
I use my droid pro overseas, but travel to the us two or three times a month. It sucks to have a global phone that i can use everywhere (roaming) but not in the US. A verizon plan is simply too expensive to afford to use 4 days a month.
I would be willing to pay, donate, contribute to find a way to activate the droid pro on a prepaid at&t plan. Or even an affordable verizon daily prepaid plan. Any ideas?
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hk9090 said:
I use my droid pro overseas, but travel to the us two or three times a month. It sucks to have a global phone that i can use everywhere (roaming) but not in the US. A verizon plan is simply too expensive to afford to use 4 days a month.
I would be willing to pay, donate, contribute to find a way to activate the droid pro on a prepaid at&t plan. Or even an affordable verizon daily prepaid plan. Any ideas?
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You could have it flashed to Page Plus. They operate on the Verizon network.
anyone know if it's successfully been done? Have an XPRT and we might be migrating from Sprint to Tmob. Would love to keep using the XPRT as backup phone or primary if it takes a while to get my hands on Milestone 3.
It won't work on T-Mobile 3G, and I don't know if this works for the XPRT, but the Pro unlock has been released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259550
well that's a waste. Too many damn gsm bands. Thanks for the link. Might do it anyway. If I end up selling it, it'll be more valuable if it can be used on AT&T. Think getting GSM phones from Bell Canada is the way to go for Tmob phones. Think the Milestone 3 will be in my future if we do the switch.
another reason to believe that Sprint GN2 may not have SIM slot.
We already know that previously Sprint Photon Q (made by Motorola) have SIM internally and unremovable. Now we know that there is another Sprint device Optimus G (made by LG) that will have the exactly similar design as far as SIM slot goes. (source here)
With the previous picture purposely a leak of Sprint GN2 device showing no SIM slot, this is likely to be a Sprint own evil doing.
And BTW I'm one very pissed about this. I 'll definitely sending a snail mail to Sprint Executive Office about how pissed I'm as a consumer regarding turning an international capable device into useless crap once the device come out. I go to Thailand every year or so to visit family member and when I am there I would definitely want to use SIM there because of the local number I can use. With unremovable SIM this is no longer possible. I'm very disappointed.
That's sucks, although I don't go over seas that much.. It would be nice to have. Tell them you Ben kohn bah and your red shirt friends don't approve of this.
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Unfortunately most sprint users including myself really don't care that much although it would be great to have definitely not a deal breaker for most and most won't care. I feel your pain as I do go over seas but I don't use my sprint phone for over seas as I use my dumb phone a flip phone unlocked cheapo for traveling. But I'm in ur corner for *****in and moaning hopefully one day it will be different either way just get the damn device in stock and I'm happy
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Unfortunately most sprint users including myself really don't care that much although it would be great to have definitely not a deal breaker for most and most won't care. I feel your pain as I do go over seas but I don't use my sprint phone for over seas as I use my dumb phone a flip phone unlocked cheapo for traveling. But I'm in ur corner for *****in and moaning hopefully one day it will be different either way just get the damn device in stock and I'm happy
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It appears that this is the route they are going now. I wonder why that is? Does using the embedded SIM force you to use a Sprint International plan, for out of country use?
pardon my ignorance, but isn't the "international" version GSM...and sprint's, obviously gonna be CDMA? and as such, no SIM card?
---at least i've always assumed that SIM cards is something GSM phones use, while CDMA phones do not.
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pardon my ignorance, but isn't the "international" version GSM...and sprint's, obviously gonna be CDMA? and as such, no SIM card?
---at least i've always assumed that SIM cards is something GSM phones use, while CDMA phones do not.
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You're right, but some CDMA phones have radios that support at least EDGE on GSM so you can still text and make phone calls overseas (and if you unlock, you could run them on Tmo and AT&T).
However, the question is if the radios will even support the EDGE GSM bands... probably not though.
finalhit said:
pardon my ignorance, but isn't the "international" version GSM...and sprint's, obviously gonna be CDMA? and as such, no SIM card?
---at least i've always assumed that SIM cards is something GSM phones use, while CDMA phones do not.
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All of Verizon's LTE phones have a SIM card slot and all of their recent phones also have GSM/HSPA radios for global roaming. I believe some can even run on T-Mobile and ATT's frequencies if you are lucky. But LTE will be Verizon only.
would it be possible to flash a Verizon Note 2 to Sprint in order to have one with a SIM card?
There are so much of competition in market, they skipping features users can easily find alternative. Bad for users but too bad for manufactures. They should understand
Not sure if you saw, but someone has figured out how to remove the embedded SIM in the Photon Q and replace it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32593285#post32593285
Yea, but whose brave soul gonna do that on not even a month old GN2. And that's beside the point. Seriously, to me it seem like it would cost the manufacturor even more to make the SIM embeded than regular one.
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It appears that this is the route they are going now. I wonder why that is? Does using the embedded SIM force you to use a Sprint International plan, for out of country use?
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my guess Is That and it decreases fraud. I.e. new accounts created simply to obtain discounted phones that can be used overseas ...then the accounts go bad
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I mean how many sprint phones even support GSM EDGE bands?
I don't use Sprint, so I don't know for a fact, but don't their phones usually only run on CDMA (I've only ever heard of Verizon CDMA "world-phones")
I know that the old Touch Pro 2(wm6) and Photon 4G both have dual GSM/CDMA chip in them and they both have SIM slot.
whats the significance in not having a sim card cause it seems like a good thing to me. unless its like tmobile and att network where you can get gsm phones
The significant isn't about whether it have SIM or not. I mean for most people in the US I think we can get by w/o it. I mean it's like once every year or two that people would go outside the country and can make use of it. So it wouldn't be like a final decision whether to get one w/ or w/o SIM. And you are right there are also AT&T and T-mobile. But I can say the for some people it's about the network in their local, while for other it may simply be about not going back to the service they have bad experience with. To me it's about cost, since I'm a Sprint SERO Premium account owner. But very, it's more about why walking the low path? The phone would have been technically capable of it, the chipset, modem, antana support it. This is more about why purposely redesign it to lock it down to a specific network, greed, basically.
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I know that the old Touch Pro 2(wm6) and Photon 4G both have dual GSM/CDMA chip in them and they both have SIM slot.
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Yes, the Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 most certainly had a SIM card slot. I had a few of them before making the jump to android with my EVO 4G. It was a nice feature to have on a "Business" phone, which is what the TP2 was geared towards. The productivity of the Note 2 also can be geared for Business users, a SIM slot would be of great use.
Ohh okk that makes sense. Cause I never go out of the country so its not that big of a deal for me. But I guess I'd you travel a lot it would be better to have one
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my guess Is That and it decreases fraud. I.e. new accounts created simply to obtain discounted phones that can be used overseas ...then the accounts go bad
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DING DING DING!! Bingo
Frustrating
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DING DING DING!! Bingo
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Apparently Verizon figured out how to do it properly as they previously have had CDMA, but now allow removable SIM cards for their LTE world-phones. Sprint is now the only provider that locks their phones down like this- it's very frustrating. I am paying for a brand new device that is inherently compatible as a world-phone, but I must buy a separate device to use over seas so that I don't get raped with Sprint's international calling/data plans. RIDICULOUS! These kind of tactics are out of the apple playbook- limit the options of your customers, so you can squeeze em.
I have been struggling for a couple years now with finding a phone that works both with Bell in Canada, and Verizon. Mostly because Verizon seems to be very picky with the phones it allows on the network.
I noticed spec wise the G900V in theory should work if I can get my hands on an unlocked one, but I was just wondering if anyone might test their IMEI on bells site (http://support.bell.ca/Mobility/Sma..._phone_or_smartphone_work_on_the_Bell_network) so I can see if they actually will accept it or not.
I'd hate to buy one only to discover otherwise (as happened with my current phone which spec wise should of worked, then verizon said no lol)
Hello Guys, just wondering how easy this process going to be, im courrently on Sprint not sure if I just going to need to remove my sim from my iphone and installed on the Moto X and boob everything going to work, o we going to need to contact the carrier?
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juancaperez2000 said:
Hello Guys, just wondering how easy this process going to be, im courrently on Sprint not sure if I just going to need to remove my sim from my iphone and installed on the Moto X and boob everything going to work, o we going to need to contact the carrier?
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Should be the same process that you use for other Sprint phones. I believe you guys have to call Sprint and move your sim to activate. Read up on Nexus 6 activation. It should be the same.
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The best and quickest way to do this would be to take the phone to the store once you get it, let them enter the imei, etc. into the system, and once it activates (and it will, since your sim will already be in the phone...), that will be that.
For Verizon: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e570e4be47.
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I don't know about this device specifically, but I'm on AT&T and I've swapped devices by simply switching the SIM. Never had an issue with this.
ATT as well and can agree just popping in a existing sim no activation needed. Bought a micro to nano cutter to be ready for when my MXP get here.
I just did a chat with sprint asked for a nano sim they asked what phone told them they said no problem so it looks like this wont be to bad
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juancaperez2000 said:
Hello Guys, just wondering how easy this process going to be, im courrently on Sprint not sure if I just going to need to remove my sim from my iphone and installed on the Moto X and boob everything going to work, o we going to need to contact the carrier?
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Yeah you'll need a compatible SIM and you'll still have to get in touch with sprint to have them activate it to your line. I know for a fact the SIM that the iPhone uses won't work, the only compatible SIM that is currently in use on other Sprint models that will also work with the X Pure is the SIM the HTC one M9 uses. Just go into a Sprint store when you get your X and they'll have one
Since the phone is just getting out there, it's not officially sold through Sprint (or Verizon), at this point, the trickle down info the online reps will have is going to vary, and different and confusing things can happen. The simplest way for CDMA customers to get going with this phone is to contact them, either by phone or in store, and activate whatever they need to on top of whatever you put into your phone from your existing one. Note: this phone uses a Nano, NOT a micro, sim card. This being the case, unless you want to buy a fitter, or feel comfortable cutting your sim card to fit, it would be best to just get a new one. GSM customers (like ATT & T-Mo) do not need to worry about any of this (aside from Band 12/wifi calling stuff, which is way more advanced than this thread, but I'll be looking into....QXDM, etc...), since the sim card being inserted for the first time will automatically download all of the pertinent information to get you going .
I ordered a Sim cutter so I can just use my G4 Sim. Verizon is notorious for not giving Sims for devices they don't sell.
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Yeah you'll need a compatible SIM and you'll still have to get in touch with sprint to have them activate it to your line. I know for a fact the SIM that the iPhone uses won't work, the only compatible SIM that is currently in use on other Sprint models that will also work with the X Pure is the SIM the HTC one M9 uses. Just go into a Sprint store when you get your X and they'll have one
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Why wouldn't your iPhone sim work? I have a Verizon iPhone, and swap my sim with all kinds of android devices nearly every day. There has never been a problem. They use the exact same sim card. In fact, it is already a nano-sim as well so it would fit perfectly in the MXP.
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Why wouldn't your iPhone sim work? I have a Verizon iPhone, and swap my sim with all kinds of android devices nearly every day. There has never been a problem. They use the exact same sim card. In fact, it is already a nano-sim as well so it would fit perfectly in the MXP.
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Let me start by saying I'm a technician at a Sprint store, yes that works on Verizon and any GSM carrier but with Sprint the SIM card doesn't carry your mobile subscriber identity it just allows the phone access to our 4G LTE network. So yes the X pure takes a nano SIM, same size as the iPhone but we have many different SIM card SKUs for all our 4G phones and ones that work with some are not compatible to work with other phones. As I already said the only phone currently on the sprint network that uses the same nano SIM that will also work with the X pure is the HTC One m9 SIM but even if you aren't coming from the m9 you can just go into a sprint store and pick up the specific SIM we have tons of all SIMs in stock in the back for these specific reasons
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Let me start by saying I'm a technician at a Sprint store, yes that works on Verizon and any GSM carrier but with Sprint the SIM card doesn't carry your mobile subscriber identity it just allows the phone access to our 4G LTE network. So yes the X pure takes a nano SIM, same size as the iPhone but we have many different SIM card SKUs for all our 4G phones and ones that work with some are not compatible to work with other phones. As I already said the only phone currently on the sprint network that uses the same nano SIM that will also work with the X pure is the HTC One m9 SIM but even if you aren't coming from the m9 you can just go into a sprint store and pick up the specific SIM we have tons of all SIMs in stock in the back for these specific reasons
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Thanks for this, im on the same page with the other friend on Verizon you only need to switch sim cards, no with your information, I only going to need to Sprint store and ask for sim card for HTC M9 and also tell them that i need it active and pupin my MPE and after then the phone should work, or I need to provide de imeid or esn?
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Thanks for this, im on the same page with the other friend on Verizon you only need to switch sim cards, no with your information, I only going to need to Sprint store and ask for sim card for HTC M9 and also tell them that i need it active and pupin my MPE and after then the phone should work, or I need to provide de imeid or esn?
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You'll need to provide them the ESN, they'll activate it to your line and also activate the SIM to the phone at the same time and pop it in the phone, they should know what SIM to use it was already mentioned in our introduction material provided to us, if the rep seems like they have no idea just mention it's the same SIM the m9 uses
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You'll need to provide them the ESN, they'll activate it to your line and also activate the SIM to the phone at the same time and pop it in the phone, they should know what SIM to use it was already mentioned in our introduction material provided to us, if the rep seems like they have no idea just mention it's the same SIM the m9 uses
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Good to know, I was wondering about this myself as I currently have the Nexus 6 on Sprint. When I do receive it, I'll just pop in at Sprint and get a SIM and let them do their thing. Appreciate it!
Edit: Would you by any chance know if Sprint will support VoLTE with the Pure? (In the select markets that it's available?)
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jayharper08 said:
Good to know, I was wondering about this myself as I currently have the Nexus 6 on Sprint. When I do receive it, I'll just pop in at Sprint and get a SIM and let them do their thing. Appreciate it!
Edit: Would you by any chance know if Sprint will support VoLTE with the Pure? (In the select markets that it's available?)
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That is a good question I'll look into it when I get back to work on Tuesday
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That is a good question I'll look into it when I get back to work on Tuesday
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Awesome, sir! Thank you!
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Wait, so, the Moto X uses a nano? Google tells me that is what my HTC One M8 has. So I just swap the sim card and I'm good to go?
First time getting a phone that isn't through Verizon so I'm inexperienced in this kind of thing
Cremacious said:
Wait, so, the Moto X uses a nano? Google tells me that is what my HTC One M8 has. So I just swap the sim card and I'm good to go?
First time getting a phone that isn't through Verizon so I'm inexperienced in this kind of thing
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yes, just swap your sim and go
Verizon is sending me this sim anyone knows if it's good sim to activate ? Atm I have note4 and micro Sim , yes I could cut it or go to some cell phone store to cut it but if I can have it free why bother.
This is the order item description:
GEMALTO 4FF NFC SIM CD
Cheers
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