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Anyone want to trade? My AMOLED for you SLCD?

i prefer the look of the slcd and was wondering if someone wants to trade? I live in houston, tx and im really looking local. i have a fresh refurb from HTC repair center.

You got a fresh amoled from HTC just recently? Good luck with trade.
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why? what do you mean?

navillos said:
why? what do you mean?
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I didn't know if they still gave out amoled replacements. I thought they might mostly be slcd

eallan said:
I didn't know if they still gave out amoled replacements. I thought they might mostly be slcd
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If you send in a AMOLED you should receive an AMOLED back and vise-versa.

mempf said:
If you send in a AMOLED you should receive an AMOLED back and vise-versa.
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exactly. i tried to get them to send me a slcd for a replacement but, ultimately the repair center i guess calls the shots.

navillos said:
i prefer the look of the slcd and was wondering if someone wants to trade? I live in houston, tx and im really looking local. i have a fresh refurb from HTC repair center.
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Ok, i need to ask, how the heck do we tell if we have the amoled or slcd version? Because I really want to know.

spbeeking said:
Ok, i need to ask, how the heck do we tell if we have the amoled or slcd version? Because I really want to know.
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that's easy, look at the screen hehe
I don't know about the technical way... but there is a simple way... load a black backround.. and if it's not totaly black and you see a washed out black then you have a SLCD, if it's totaly black then it's a AMOLED.
You could probably see in settings or something.

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How anyone can "prefer" the look of SLCD is interesting, I gotta admit. Are there some alternative motives here?

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How anyone can "prefer" the look of SLCD is interesting, I gotta admit. Are there some alternative motives here?[/QUOTE]
Because this is not the only difference.
Amoleds use that pentile pixel pattern, have noticeable gaps between pixels, drain huge amount of power on black text on white background, grossly over-saturate and poorly manage colors, burn in.
So it comes down to your personal preferences. There are a lot of people who are seriously irritated by pentile "drizzle" around small text or that grainy pixellated look due to the big gaps between pixels but don't give a damn about those huge viewing angles or deep blacks which you will distinctly notice only in the night anyway.
So I am also seriously thinking about trading my amoled nexus against another one with slcd.
The amoled advantages are simply irrelevant to me, but the disadvantages really "hurt".
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I'll give you a point on the text..
BUT
Amoled
- uses less power than SLCD (there was a test with 2 Desires 1 amoled 1 SLCD... it played a movie over and over amoled won the race by a few hours of playtime)
- has better colors
- SLCDs have burn in too if you leave it on too long just like AMOLED
- big gaps between pixels? you usually have microscope goggles on when you operate with your phone?
- it does a little better in sunlight
if you get a Swap for your phone then it's ok do whatever. If you're thinking of new phone wait for the uber named.. lol : Super AMOLED Plus screens

mkrmec said:
I'll give you a point on the text..
BUT
Amoled
- uses less power than SLCD (there was a test with 2 Desires 1 amoled 1 SLCD... it played a movie over and over amoled won the race by a few hours of playtime)
- has better colors
- SLCDs have burn in too if you leave it on too long just like AMOLED
- big gaps between pixels? you usually have microscope goggles on when you operate with your phone?
- it does a little better in sunlight
if you get a Swap for your phone then it's ok do whatever. If you're thinking of new phone wait for the uber named.. lol : Super AMOLED Plus screens
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I don't consider myself having good vision and the gaps between pixels and orange-red dots on the edges of white text were visible to me the first time I turned on the phone. It's grainy but still better than the iPhone 3G.

mkrmec said:
I'll give you a point on the text..
BUT
Amoled
- uses less power than SLCD (there was a test with 2 Desires 1 amoled 1 SLCD... it played a movie over and over amoled won the race by a few hours of playtime)
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I wrote about black text on white background. I.e. typical web page or email, where black pixels typically are in single digit percent area. In this case amoled easily consumes more than double of the LCD power.
Watching movie is very different, where average pixel luminance is just a fraction of that.
If you want technical details look here, around the page 17:
http://data.4dsystems.com.au/downloads/micro-OLED/Docs/4D_AMOLED_Presentation.pdf
Don't know about you, but I almost never watch anything more than random youtube clip once in one or two months. So this advantage is totally irrelevant to me.
But I often use my email or read something up in the web, so that power consumption really hurts. It is actually the difference between "oh, ****, battery is already empty and I have two more hours to go" and "enough for a work day".
- has better colors
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If over-saturated is better to you then yes. And no if someone prefers natural colors.
- SLCDs have burn in too if you leave it on too long just like AMOLED
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Really? I never had a burn in on any of my LCD's. And I got first traces of burn in on my Amoled after a month of careful use. Never set to 100% brightness, never left "on" for extended amounts of time.
- big gaps between pixels? you usually have microscope goggles on when you operate with your phone?
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I do not need any googles, I see those distinct pixels at a normal viewing distance (like 30-40cm). They are apparent enough to be noticeable every time I look at the screen. Every homogeneous area has that weird grainy texture. And I have just a normal vision.
- it does a little better in sunlight
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Actually both are rubbish. But not due to the screen technology, but due to that silver glossy layer under the glass (digitizer I suppose).
if you get a Swap for your phone then it's ok do whatever. If you're thinking of new phone wait for the uber named.. lol : Super AMOLED Plus screens
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They need to show first that they are any better in my usage scenario.

Well SLCD tends to look better in the sunlight, but AMOLED's colors are much more accurate (especially blacks, which look a lot like blues on SLCD).
Super AMOLED is the best of both worlds - decent performance in direct light, great, vivid colors. Too bad only Samsung's Galaxy S phones have SAMOLED displays.

Hopefully super amoled plus will be the best of all worlds. No more pentile
Good to know ill get an amoled version in exchange.
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had mine returned last week after broken amoled screen, with an LCD screen.
this was in the UK though. i'm just as happy with the LCD

draugaz said:
I wrote about black text on white background. I.e. typical web page or email, where black pixels typically are in single digit percent area. In this case amoled easily consumes more than double of the LCD power.
Watching movie is very different, where average pixel luminance is just a fraction of that.
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We know the differences between the technologies. What he's saying is that real world testing has shown otherwise. Engadget tested two Desires and the Amoled had better life. They even swapped batteries between the two phones and got the same results. There was another tech blog who tested Desires and found the same but its name escapes me right now.
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eallan said:
Hopefully super amoled plus will be the best of all worlds. No more pentile
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Remains to be seen.
For example, the Nokia N8 has such a amoled display without pentile matrix. As far as I know produced by Samsung.
If this is an indication of what is coming, then I am not impressed. The color drizzle is gone, but weirdly enough there is a distinct red glow on the right side on the letters (white text on black bacground).

Well SLCD tends to look better in the sunlight, but AMOLED's colors are much more accurate (especially blacks, which look a lot like blues on SLCD).
Super AMOLED is the best of both worlds - decent performance in direct light, great, vivid colors. Too bad only Samsung's Galaxy S phones have SAMOLED displays.
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Blue instead the black on SLCD screens?
Is it some kind of joke?
SAmoled looks better in the sunlight, have no "view angle" and got true black.
But about colors - I dont think SAmoled got the accurate colors. Images/photos on SAmoled looks like they got 200% contrast.
I prefer SLCD.
- uses less power than SLCD (there was a test with 2 Desires 1 amoled 1 SLCD... it played a movie over and over amoled won the race by a few hours of playtime)
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Because they tested it with the movie, which probably got a lot of dark scenes. Super Amoled very good with black color that doest eat the battery, but on full-white scene it consumes about 800mw. LCD - doesnt matter if it black, red or white - power consuming always about 240mw.
Notice that i talking about Super Amoled, because i didnt find any power test of standard amoled and as i know Superamoled is more power efficient than just amoled
Since almost all websites, sms screen and a lot of other things (MIUI rom for example, its almost complete in white) uses white background with black text, not a black background with white text, SLCD will be more better.
- has better colors
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I think LCD got better colors
- SLCDs have burn in too if you leave it on too long just like AMOLED
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Sony Super-LCD is kind of LCD screen, not an OLED. How it can burn?

draugaz said:
Because this is not the only difference.
Amoleds use that pentile pixel pattern, have noticeable gaps between pixels, drain huge amount of power on black text on white background, grossly over-saturate and poorly manage colors, burn in.
So it comes down to your personal preferences. There are a lot of people who are seriously irritated by pentile "drizzle" around small text or that grainy pixellated look due to the big gaps between pixels but don't give a damn about those huge viewing angles or deep blacks which you will distinctly notice only in the night anyway.
So I am also seriously thinking about trading my amoled nexus against another one with slcd.
The amoled advantages are simply irrelevant to me, but the disadvantages really "hurt".
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You have LED Displays confused with Plasma displays lol.
Plasma runs on gas fumes that burn images to its screen if its used in the same area for too long.
LED OLED and AMOLED are perfect battery savers especially on black bacgrouns and with black text it saved loads of battery.

About our displays.

Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/

Why does this display looks so grainy.Does anyone know?
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asesino said:
Why does this display looks so grainy.Does anyone know?
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lol
10 char.

who has been complaining?? My display looks bad ass!!!

I have no display complaints either, only the auto brightness, can't ever make it's mind up.

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I have no display complaints either, only the auto brightness, can't ever make it's mind up.
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haha i know right! that has nothing to do with the display though, that is the accelerometer. and i love the display on this thing, i can actually see it in the daylight!! that has been a HUGE issue for me with HTC phones (almost every phone i have owned has been HTC). i can see it perfect walking down the street with the sun bright as sh!t. also the views on it, i can see everything still good when tilting the phone.

OP you haven't owned an iphone4 or SGS have you? Our display may be good for battery life but viewing angles, color reproduction and quality is garbage.
Not to mention the horrible gradients.
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I have owned the Captivate, Inspire, and Atrix. I passed my Captivate on to the wife, and now when I pick it up, I think the display looks horrible, and think the Atrix is crisper, and brighter than the others.

The captivate had a much better display in my opinion.
I love my atrix though and the display is not "garbage" either.
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The widgets looks so small on the Atrix qHD 960x540 screen.
Is there a way or app to switch the display to 800x480??
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Did you even read the article you posted?
You get a higher resolution and better battery life and better whites, compared to LCD displays, at the cost of blurrier text, grainier images, and poor yellow and green reproduction.
And it may give better battery life compared to normal LCDs that don't use pentile since it has fewer sub-pixels to drive, but it doesn't give the same battery savings that are possible from OLED displays as those completely shut off any black pixels for both battery saving and for true blacks. OLEDs also have better whites compared to LCDs due to the nature of the technology.

Question: do our displays use less power to display white or black?

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Question: do our displays use less power to display white or black?
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Yes on white, since only 1 sub-pixel needs to be used vs 3, and no on black.

Dude, whites on amoled are blue. It is true that amoled is not lit up when displaying blacks. However, it is the only advantage. In my experience every other color, especially whites can drain the hell out of amoleds. Oh and amoleds are prone to a permanent burn in.
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Atrix display is boss

Why such a debate? A screen is a screen, it shows images, and does what its gotta do.
If you don't like it, then you shouldn't have brought it in the first place.

tehrules said:
Why such a debate? A screen is a screen, it shows images, and does what its gotta do.
If you don't like it, then you shouldn't have brought it in the first place.
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Because TFT screens are as "pretty" as Amoleds, but they don't kill the battery like Amoleds either...

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Did you even read the article you posted?
You get a higher resolution and better battery life and better whites, compared to LCD displays, at the cost of blurrier text, grainier images, and poor yellow and green reproduction.
And it may give better battery life compared to normal LCDs that don't use pentile since it has fewer sub-pixels to drive, but it doesn't give the same battery savings that are possible from OLED displays as those completely shut off any black pixels for both battery saving and for true blacks. OLEDs also have better whites compared to LCDs due to the nature of the technology.
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I don't even need to read the article to know how these screens act. From my personal experience, TFT screens give waaay better battery life than Amoled or even SLCD.
I've owned 4 different TFT phones. 2 Amoleds, 2 Super Amoleds, and 1 SLCD.
Take a non-TFT phone on a dominant white background website like Engaget for a while, and see how fast it drains on white backgrounds. Even with Google, I had to switch up to something as simple as Blackle instead.
No double Amoleds screens are "Eye-Candy", but they are like Gremlins where you have to keep them away from the light.
TFTs may look plainer and grainy, but you don't have change your browsing habits because of them either to save battery...

stratax said:
Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/
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I would not call it nit-picking, people are stating facts ... In your link above you have decided to take the article as a positive article, but some of the people would take it as a negative because they can resolve the pixels (good vision maybe) and can not put up with any artifacts or imperfections ...
My story is that i bought the atrix at its full price but i could not put up with the screen (everything else was ok like battery, gps ... another annoyance was the inability to type in macedonian language ... and yes i've checked the market for keyboards and stuff, no video calls because of the unknown status with gingerbread) so i have decided to replace it with Inspire which had better screen (at least to me) but terrible gps, battery life and the same problem with languages ... At the end i've purchased iPhone 4 and all of the features that i wanted to have are available ...
My criteria:
1. Good screen (accurate) /i do not care how many cores the phone has, if the screen is not good then the phone is not good too/
2. Language (keyboard) / Video call (phone to PC with skype or google talk)
This is how i see the things ... Different people have different priorities when they want to purchase phones, electronics ...
When so many people say that the atrix screen is grainy ... probably it is ... some can put up with it, some can not ...
Another high level article describing the positives and negatives of a PenTile screen from an expert in that area:
http://www.displaymate.com/Nexus_One_ShootOut.htm
Take care

stratax said:
Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/
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Is my screen washed out or normal? [Pics] updated!!"

I'm use to my galaxy s2/3. Just got my n4 and I'm worried my screen is washed out or am I just use to amoled screens but just wanting to make sure
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Looks normal
I dont see any issues with the screen from the pics. Sometimes I noticed some wallpapers make the screen look washed out ( personal observation)
You should try using same background and then compare the home screens to see the difference. But my nexus 4 looks much better than SGS3 my friend has

It's washed out compared to the Galaxy S3 because the Galaxy S3's screen is better. Same when I compare my two phones. The Nexus 4 has been a real disappointment.

Definitely noticed it compared to my HTC one x. Ain't gonna go back though, the extra RAM and lack of bloaty skins makes the nexus 4 fly. I'll live with the washed out home screens, in video playback its not too bad.
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It's washed out compared to the Galaxy S3 because the Galaxy S3's screen is better. Same when I compare my two phones. The Nexus 4 has been a real disappointment.
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The s3 screen is not better it is just over saturated super amoled junk.
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immunityx said:
The s3 screen is not better it is just over saturated super amoled junk.
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opinions.......

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It's washed out compared to the Galaxy S3 because the Galaxy S3's screen is better. Same when I compare my two phones. The Nexus 4 has been a real disappointment.
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No... it's just AMOLED
IPS has far more advantages than AMOLED, including brighter screen, non pentile, no screen burn in, no blue hue, more natural colors.
SAMOLED has more vibrant colors, but as stated multiple times it's oversaturated, and the whites are not white; they're blue(ish)
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As already stated you should definitely have the same image on the screen when you make the comparison. When I compare my n4 to the gnex, which is samoled, the gnex looks horrible.
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Okay guys got the same pic up. What u guys think?
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There is no denying it's over saturated... A canyon isn't suppose to look dark red
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The N4 delivers a much crisper image with brighter and truer colors. Yeah, AMOLEDs look nice. But they aren't natural. It's especially visible after using a phone with an IPS or LCD screen for a while. Put your Galaxy devices in a drawer. Use only your N4 and devices with non-AMOLED screens for a week. Take the Galaxy devices out of the drawer and then compare the screens. I'm sure you'll be shocked.
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God the n4 has such realistic and amazing colors
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There are kernels and apps that help with adjusting display color to your liking
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The N4 delivers a much crisper image with brighter and truer colors. Yeah, AMOLEDs look nice. But they aren't natural. It's especially visible after using a phone with an IPS or LCD screen for a while. Put your Galaxy devices in a drawer. Use only your N4 and devices with non-AMOLED screens for a week. Take the Galaxy devices out of the drawer and then compare the screens. I'm sure you'll be shocked.
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Coming from a super AMOLED.. it took me awhile... Now this displays is hands down is the isssh
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Does the nexus look washed out to you?
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There is no denying it's over saturated... A canyon isn't suppose to look dark red
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I went from an iPhone 4 to a GS2 and I had no idea it was over saturated. In fact I think the screens look brighter, the colours look nicer and I love how you cannot tell the blacks on a screen to the Bezel unless you look really closely. I love how the blacks aren't grey and I'm the kinda person who likes to have a black background and nothing else, also lots of video content and apps have black backgrounds, so it is something I notice. I cannot go back to the greys that LCd screens call black.
Tbh if I look at an OLED screen on its own the colours look perfectly fine and I personally prefer them being strong. The LCDs do tend to look more washed out to me and just not as clear and I have all the bleedthrough from the back lighting. I mean I saw an iPhone 5 the other day and it had so much bleedthrough it was unreal.
Personally I think OLEDs are better and I've never had an issue with brightness, I cannot see pixels on my GS2 screen because I don't hold it 2 inches from my eyes or under a magnifying glass. The viewing angles are much better which is important for a mobile, the black levels are much better and the colours are stronger. I think people forget too that brightness isn't as important in the sun as how much the screen reflects, viewing angles but also stronger colours are easier to see under the sun light. The Galaxy series at least has some of the best screens in terms of the little amount of light it reflects off the screen, I've seen some phones and it is like a mirror :\

Wow the galaxy looks so dirty while the n4 looks crisp
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slannmage said:
I went from an iPhone 4 to a GS2 and I had no idea it was over saturated. In fact I think the screens look brighter, the colours look nicer and I love how you cannot tell the blacks on a screen to the Bezel unless you look really closely. I love how the blacks aren't grey and I'm the kinda person who likes to have a black background and nothing else, also lots of video content and apps have black backgrounds, so it is something I notice. I cannot go back to the greys that LCd screens call black.
Personally I think OLEDs are better and I've never had an issue with brightness, I cannot see pixels on my GS2 screen because I don't hold it 2 inches from my eyes or under a magnifying glass. The viewing angles are much better which is important for a mobile, the black levels are much better and the colours are stronger
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You cannot say AMOLED screens have "good blacks" as they do not even produce the black color!
And whites: AMOLED whites suck, but with an LCD, the whites LCDs produce look sooo much better than any AMOLED. and whites are much more common, just open a random website and chances are the background is white (example: google.com)
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ya definately the screen on the n4 is way better than an amoled they are just easier on the eyes for me. try looking at any shade of white/gray and youll see why

N4 screen is good but needs some gamma adjustment. Just look at the clouds on N4 and SIII, It looks like there is information missing form the clouds on N4.

Both screens looks unrealistic compared to a good adjusted lcd screen.

proving Oled (amoled brand name) superior unlike what your told by mainstream media!

Your told, lcd is brighter in sunlight which is the main reason your tokd Lcd is superior or at least thay say amoled is inferior. Wrong,its because if default settings by the makers. Once rooted with proper kernel(almost every device has em) you can do with amoled what you cant do with lcd. Double the color multipliers from android default of 200 to 400. I use in order of RGB, 320/320/400 to achieve perfect white and black. Also the battery myth,lcd drains less. Thats bullcrap. Amiled black pixel achives pure black because its actually OFF. that is main reason it uses less power than lcd. Instead if going on and on I will just show u proof. I will show you picture of my LGOG(sprint optimus g) and my even aging gnex side by side in sunlight with my shadow on half the screens to show its actual sunny lol. A pic says a lot more than my Bloveating. Im using my sgs4 to post this and used its awesome camera tontake the pic if pic does not show in op I will post in first post. Have a great day peeps. Your friendly neighborhood noobness fighter.Crwolv

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Your told, lcd is brighter in sunlight which is the main reason your tokd Lcd is superior or at least thay say amoled is inferior. Wrong,its because if default settings by the makers. Once rooted with proper kernel(almost every device has em) you can do with amoled what you cant do with lcd. Double the color multipliers from android default of 200 to 400. I use in order of RGB, 320/320/400 to achieve perfect white and black. Also the battery myth,lcd drains less. Thats bullcrap. Amiled black pixel achives pure black because its actually OFF. that is main reason it uses less power than lcd. Instead if going on and on I will just show u proof. I will show you picture of my LGOG(sprint optimus g) and my even aging gnex side by side in sunlight with my shadow on half the screens to show its actual sunny lol. A pic says a lot more than my Bloveating. Im using my sgs4 to post this and used its awesome camera tontake the pic if pic does not show in op I will post in first post. Have a great day peeps. Your friendly neighborhood noobness fighter.Crwolv
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2 different pic styles,img and jpeg clearly shows that even with a shattered and pentile matrix amoled screen its brighter in the sunlight. Even did my shadow in it so no one would say....sun wasnt out lmao. Sorry naysayers proof is in the pudding and the gooey pudding is right in front of your face. Proper kernel with amoled is brighter and better battery saver than lcd. Lcd is backlit anyway and most high end phones will use it in the future because it can be bended and manipulated and LCD can't because it is backlit. Only low end phones will be lcd in the future.

I agree with what you've said (I use Samsung phones primarily), but it is true that when displaying white, it uses 3x as much power as an LCD. On mostly black, you're correct; very little power draw.

Tell me about AMOLED burn-in. Since you are increasing the luminosity, I would suspect that burn-in would be faster?

Keeping my eye out for this one...very interesting.
Do you guys mind if I ask what this "burn-in" is and how to fo about it?
Very interesting indeed.
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eggymustdie said:
Keeping my eye out for this one...very interesting.
Do you guys mind if I ask what this "burn-in" is and how to fo about it?
Very interesting indeed.
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Similar to plasma screen televisions, if you leave an image on the screen for a long time (much more than average), you'll see remnants of it permanently. However, if it's anything like televisions, you can fix it by displaying a white image on the screen (entirely white) for a few hours. I've never had this happen to me and ive owned almost all major Samsung phones. Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III, Note 2, and now S4.
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I see...so is it a bad thing?
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eggymustdie said:
I see...so is it a bad thing?
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Burn in? Well yes. You're going to see the ghost of whatever burned in, everywhere.
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Woah. Kinda like on my old phones...so that's what's called...wow.
Is there anyway to fix this?
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burn in
Yes burn in can occur on older like the gnex. Newer amoled is less likely but always set time out of 2 min when color multipliers are set to max. Best settings,for pure white is ,320,320,400 rgb color multipliers. Sorry should have talked about burn in,my apologies .

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Crwolv said:
Yes burn in can occur on older like the gnex. Newer amoled is less likely but always set timperiod., just remember out of 2 min when color miltipliers are set to max. Best settings,for pure white is ,320,320,400 rgb color multipliers. Sorry should have talked about burn in,my apologies .
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Just remember in all aspects except maybe battery power AMOLED is superior if your rooted and have a proper kernel (there there look for em) amoled is superior and infinitely more controable then LCD, period. Sorry naysayers look at proof in sunlight

tapiov said:
Tell me about AMOLED burn-in. Since you are increasing the luminosity, I would suspect that burn-in would be faster?
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Oh yes, burn in way faster. Keep at least older amoled/oled screens at 2 min or less

Product F(RED) said:
I agree with what you've said (I use Samsung phones primarily), but it is true that when displaying white, it uses 3x as much power as an LCD. On mostly black, you're correct; very little power draw.
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black pixel is actually zero power draw the pixel is off

So how do you get this better color might I ask? You say proper kernel...any way to get it on an S3? Specifically an SGHT999?

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black pixel is actually zero power draw the pixel is off
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I said mostly black. On complete black, you're right. But you're not going to be using an app that's entirely, 100% black, are you?
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Product F(RED) said:
I said mostly black. On complete black, you're right. But you're not going to be using an app that's entirely, 100% black, are you?
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Actually I use an apk that uses complete black for the whole screen and I use it quite often!!! ou know what it is, my wallpaper. Lol

Crwolv said:
Actually I use an apk that uses complete black for the whole screen and I use it quite often!!! ou know what it is, my wallpaper. Lol
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So you have no icons at all on the screen and you hide your status bar?
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Pentile or RBG?

Any information on the screen technology used on the S5?

kuromusha38 said:
Any information on the screen technology used on the S5?
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I think its still pentile.

I was just on Google searching for this without answer. I didn't watch the live event but I'm going to assume it's pentile, I've seen no reference of a "plus" following the display type sadly
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.

kuromusha38 said:
if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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You can't know what samsung have done inside 5.1 AMOLED FHD screen. I thing color will more accurate and brighter.
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I meant in terms of pixel count and total subpixel count.
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I saw errica,s mini review. She said it is still pentile.
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That's got to suck...
Samsung has been stuck on the 1080p pentile since S4.
I bet the Note 4 will also be pentile.
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Does it really matter? I see this PenTile thing as pure whining, you'll never notice it in a 1080p screen unless you put your device under a microscope to use it.

Yes it does matter. And I am not whining because the screen technology has not improved after three devices.
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Yes it does matter. And I am not whining because the screen technology has not improved after three devices.
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So apply for a job at Samsung and teach them how to do it.
Seriously, S3 -> S4 was 720p to 1080p jump.
S4 -> S5 was the "screen now is brighter and can be very dim" jump.
I think you are complaining just because you were fool enough to believe the rumours.

Interesting article comparing the two technologies here
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-has-a-pentile-display-what-is-it-and-why-should-you-care/

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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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Of course it will have technological improvements. The Note 3 was also "just" 1080p pentile and DisplayMate called it one of the best screens ever they tested, 600nits of brightness in auto mode under sunlight, improved color accuracy and more efficient operation. You bet the S5 screen is further improved, as well as SW modes to choose the most colorful or most accurate for your liking... this phone is only a disappointment if you judge by the looks, so far it's very promising all around.

If you guys missed it during the launch, s5 has brightest led screen ever made by Samsung @500 nits. Pentile vs rgb argument is a total bull**** for phones with full hd screens
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bala_gamer said:
If you guys missed it during the launch, s5 has brightest led screen ever made by Samsung @500 nits. Pentile vs rgb argument is a total bull**** for phones with full hd screens
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.

pihx said:
It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm

pihx said:
It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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from what i have heard from Francisco z2 is the best screen sony has come up with so far... if im not wrong its the lcd screens that loses color at max brighntess
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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then we have to wait for actual results to know what samsung bragged about the screen during the launch

Its not pentile. Geex. I can't believe anybody has pointed out it is still diamond array RGBG. BIG improvement over pentile. Not going to lie though. Even though the RGBG looks fine and comparable to a standard RGB screen I wish it was at least like the galaxy note 2 or moto X screen. RBG with a bigger blue pixel. Looks awesome, can't tell it's not standard RGB stripe and it is efficient. I think the gnote2 and moto x so far have had the most efficient AMOLED screens so far.
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Its not pentile. Geex. I can't believe anybody has pointed out it is still diamond array RGBG. BIG improvement over pentile. Not going to lie though. Even though the RGBG looks fine and comparable to a standard RGB screen I wish it was at least like the galaxy note 2 or moto X screen. RBG with a bigger blue pixel. Looks awesome, can't tell it's not standard RGB stripe and it is efficient. I think the gnote2 and moto x so far have had the most efficient AMOLED screens so far.
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It's PenTile.
The diamond is the arrangement, but it is still PenTile (just as LED HDTVs are still LCD with the LED simply describing the backlight). As you said, it's RGBG (another combo used by Moto was RGBW). RGB is the preferred subpixel layout. But seriously, the layout could be stripe, diamond, or it could be in the shape of a penis for all anyone cares, RGBG is PenTile.

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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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So are you saying that the Note 3 is significantly brighter than N2?
I can barely see my phone under the Sun