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Why does GNote 1 screen look better then GNote 2?

I've had S3 and it's the best screen ever.
I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
I even compared it to the GNote 1 side by side and the galaxy note 1 just looked much better, better colors no doubt.
Am I the only one or have other people found the same thing?

Stridar said:
I've had S3 and it's the best screen ever.
I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
I even compared it to the GNote 1 side by side and the galaxy note 1 just looked much better, better colors no doubt.
Am I the only one or have other people found the same thing?
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Note 2 colors are much more "accurate" as they say...
Maybe you like oversaturated colors more? becauee another example you gave of iphone 5, Display Mate has said that the display of iphone 5 is more "accurate colors" than that of s3.
But some people (me too!) like oversaturation and inaccuracy more

settings>display>screen mode>dynamic
that should bring out a bit more color.

Think your phone might be faulty as the screen on my note 2 is more vivid and sharper than my 1 video are amazing and I have copared same movie on both phones
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stesteste said:
Think your phone might be faulty as the screen on my note 2 is more vivid and sharper than my 1 video are amazing and I have copared same movie on both phones
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Same here, my n2 have really nice colors and one plus compare to my s3 is i can even see the screen on my n2 outside in strong sun that s3 is really bad at.
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Stridar said:
I've had S3 and it's the best screen ever.
I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
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ciscostud said:
Stridar said:
I've had S3 and it's the best screen ever.
I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
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Yes I understand all the comparisons in pixels/ RBG/ pentile. The GNote 2 on paper is impressive but, when I actually help the device and looked at it, it looked lacking. I don't know, I'm still note convinced by the replies.

Stridar said:
Yes I understand all the comparisons in pixels/ RBG/ pentile. The GNote 2 on paper is impressive but, when I actually help the device and looked at it, it looked lacking. I don't know, I'm still note convinced by the replies.
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"note convinced"..... Is that supposed to be a bad pun?
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My s3 always had blurry text. Not sure whats with your screen. My note 2 is much improved.
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Ariozo said:
Same here, my n2 have really nice colors and one plus compare to my s3 is i can even see the screen on my n2 outside in strong sun that s3 is really bad at.
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yes S3 is not so good outside in day time for me even when the screen is full bright up all the way.. looks like the note 2 is more brighter to see outside in day time..i had the HTC one X and was bright and can see it really good at day time but seems like LCD sucks battery faster...
im looking to get a note again.... do you have to crank up the brightness on the note 2 to see it really good at day time sunlight?
thanks

ciscostud said:
Stridar said:
I've had S3 and it's the best screen ever.
I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
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This pic tells it all
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I think that graphic is a bit misleading as it has been scaled up slightly on the S3 to match sizes.
I have both the S3 and the Note 2 and yeah in some ways the S3 screen is better but I would say it's due to the PPI.
One thing that is right on in that pic is the green tint on the S3. Holding them side by side it's certain that colors are truer on the Note 2 and white is more white etc.

note 2 is a improvement of the s3 pentile matrix. Its not up for debate. Its like saying ps1 has better graphics then ps2.
Why the denial?
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Here in HK alot of users had reported that texts and images appear to be much sharper on the note 1. It has to do with the S-stripe subpixel arrangement of the new note 2 screen, heres an article that explains it in more details (please cutout the spaces before and after the word "uwants". Site is also in chinese but u should be able to get the idea looking at the pics):
mobile. uwants .com/viewthread.php?tid=15373991&extra=page%3D16
mobile. uwants .com/viewthread.php?tid=15376980&extra=page%3D1

stesteste said:
Think your phone might be faulty as the screen on my note 2 is more vivid and sharper than my 1 video are amazing and I have copared same movie on both phones
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Agree...my note 2 screen is definitely bettet
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I agree with the OP. The whites on my screen appear a little beige-ish when held parallel to the eye. Once you tilt it, in any direction you see the pure whiteness. I tried this at various brightness levels. I dont think this is a matter about comparing pixels and sub-pixel arrangement. The colors on first glance look superb better than any screen that ive seen. But when you tilt the screen a bit, that when u realise what superb really is! but holding it staright, the whites are certainly not so white.
Ive also read that all Amoleds are different and that could be one of the reasons. And im not sure if Samsung will replace the unit for this? Has anyone tried to replace the handset before, with any other Galaxies due to this screen problem?

I have both andI Note II has the better screen specially outdoor visibility .However the screen being more tinted is making the whites slightly duller.

A faulty screen. Normal problem of all AMOLED screens that the quality is varied.

I Can't believe all the bad talk over this screen. Received my unit today. In my eyes, this is the best screen on any mobile device that I have owned. It looks fantastic!!! Whites look good, blacks are fantastic, and colors pop. It's even usable outside in the sun. I'm coming from an S3, and have also owned the One X, iphone 4 and the original Note.
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Then I guess u should compare it with the others

Nexus 4 screen color vs Galaxy Nexus blacks

Recently I'm about to face an opportunity to get a nexus 4. But seriously i find galaxy nexus blacks outstanding. Can someone help me out with this?
Also Read that nexus 4 are coming up with similar IPhone 5 glue issue when phone gets warm?
Post in guys!
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Nexus 4 is ips and displays some gorgeous blacks! Realistic color as well. Solid performance and great contrast. Best Ips I've ever used. (iPhone 5 is arguably better)
You do see some idiots complaining about back light bleed (full brightness dark room) which is a limitation of the technology. Some are better than others. Mine has one little bit of bleed at the top. That's what auto brightness is for....
Galaxy Nexus doesn't produce black but instead turns off the pixel thus making it pitch black. Which is cool, but it's like comparing apples and oranges. Besides that colors are over saturated (people love this for some reason) and there is burn in and ghosting.
Regards, someone who is tired of this debate.
Edit: just note, you're buying an IPS panel, know this before you buy it. If you want AMOLED buy Samsung.
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Probably this will be my first ips experience my friend. And what about the overheating issue? I read across the forum and there was a thread of yellow tint due to some glue phenomena.
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also amoled screen suffer from black ink blots...

No the blacks are not as black as the Galaxy Nexus and it will take some getting used to but most likely, however, that is the absolute only thing you will miss and it's well worth the tradeoff!
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Coming from a GS3 to the N4, I love the N4 screen more. I never realized how over saturated the GS3 screen was until I had my N4 next to it. The N4 has a gorgeous screen, and like others have said, the colors are "natural" and more "true to life". :highfive:

Haven't noticed yellow tint.
This phone does run warm. But what phone doesn't? It's more of an enthusiasts phone than a consumer phone. So it's going to want some love and maintenance to run perfectly...
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My phone also ran pretty warm on stock but after using Franco's r14 kernel it's been cool as a cucumber. Plus he did a few tweaks to the color which makes the whites look whiter and less yellow or blue tint if you have any
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tatltael said:
I've loved amoled displays ever since I got my galaxy s and I've been using only amoled since then (galaxy s, s2, gnex), so I was apprehensive about whether I'd like the nexus 4 screen or not.
But after just a day of use, I can safely say I'll probably stick to LCD from now on. I never imagined I'd like the screen this much. Its one of the best things about the phone.
The whites are beautiful, the blacks are very good for an LCD and look just as black as my gnex when seen in daylight/well lit environments. In dark situations the blacks aren't as good but it doesn't matter because the display still looks gorgeous. And BTW I had trinity kernel as well. Trust me, no calibration could ever get the gnex to have whites this gorgeous.
I never had an issue with pentile before but once you use a non pentile display like this, the difference is very apparent. Its so much sharper and crisper from any distance.
And the colors just look nicer as well. Looking at my dads gnex screen after this actually makes me wonder how I ever liked colors that way.
Another reason the nexus 4 screen looks so beautiful is because gradients are actually smooth. After years of looking at amoled gradients, this is a huge and welcome change.
And its great having the screen so much closer to the surface of the glass.
The only downside to the nexus 4 screen are the viewing angles. Definitely not as nice as the gnex. I can't lie down and look at my screen diagonally anymore :/ The one x doesn't have this issue so I guess its LGs fault and not an LCD related problem.
All in all, you won't regret it. No matter how much you've loved amoled. You'll finally understand what all the hype around LCDs is about. And they were right.
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When i put my Gnex next to my N4 the blacks on the N4 look more like dark gray... But im cool with it, ill take ips over pentile no question!
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elliot.newnham said:
Nexus 4 is ips and displays some gorgeous blacks! Realistic color as well. Solid performance and great contrast. Best Ips I've ever used. (iPhone 5 is arguably better)
You do see some idiots complaining about back light bleed (full brightness dark room) which is a limitation of the technology. Some are better than others. Mine has one little bit of bleed at the top. That's what auto brightness is for....
Galaxy Nexus doesn't produce black but instead turns off the pixel thus making it pitch black. Which is cool, but it's like comparing apples and oranges. Besides that colors are over saturated (people love this for some reason) and there is burn in and ghosting.
Regards, someone who is tired of this debate.
Edit: just note, you're buying an IPS panel, know this before you buy it. If you want AMOLED buy Samsung.
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My Galaxy s2 never burned in, and never ghosted. Colors looked wonderful...except for white XD
Colors POP against a black area. Nexus Revamped Live wallpaper, with a solid black back ground? Beautiful

Please use the search, there has been an endless discussion about IPS LCD vs AMOLED. Get the display that you like.

Nexus 4 display sucks, I would rated it from last to first, Nexus 4 <--S3 <-- iPhone 5 <-- One X.
The nexus 4 is my first phone with many screen issue and I used to have s2,s3, iphone 4, and htc one x without any issue
except the amoled black spot on black screen you can't see unless it really dark. Better then yellow spot on a white screen.
Problem with the nexus is the gamma issue causing color to be a bit wash out, I know it's a software issue, but it's still a Nexus 4 issue.
Next, the yellow screen tint and yellow spot. I know only some have it, My personal nexus 4 have a nice white screen, but a ugly yellow spot.
My family also have two nexus 4, one have a uneven yellow tint on 2/3 of screen, the other one have an even yellowish tint, not as bad as the other one.
The nexus screen quality is not good at all, you can see vertical lines effect on light color, I compare it to a ipad 3 I have and the ipad 3 is smooth with the same picture.
The viewing angle are not as good as the other phone I mention.
The last problem with the nexus 4 screen is the flickering, It happen to 2 of the 3 nexus we have so far.
First time I ever seen a screen flicker is on a nexus 4. It flicker one time really bad, you can see all sort of line color going vertical on the screen. Shutting the phone off and back on still does the same thing, I had to leave it like that for a minute or so and it start to slowing stop. I like the phone overall, but not the Lcd.

What sort of flickering?
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since the galaxy doesn't require a backlight the colours are vibrant, the display on the lg is good but the black is not black due to the backlight so its a bright black not just powered off black.the ink blotches were odd but not a issue with display. a higher dpi ans resolution and I would choose amoled/+

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I concur to what has been said by most. The screen is one of the most beautiful screen on a phone. The GNex/pentile display is too bluish and I could not stand it. The S3 however, is looking pretty good, but doesn't hold water in my opinion. It is also comparable to the iPhone retina, but 4.7" > 4" any day.
Food for thought, you are less likely to carry several phones and compare screens in great detail every day. Get one with the display you like and stick with it. I had GNex for a year and every bloody day I'm thinking of getting a One X, One S or Lumia 920, that is until N4
All in all, it bogs down to your preferences. I for one doesn't mind a faux black on a phone, try using it for a few days and you won't really care. On the other hand, I expect a true black on my HDTV since that's where I consume HD content..

gs4 screen pentile or non-pentile

So guys does it make a difference ? will if have u not consider it? will having or not having it change your life ? How important is this to you.
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It makes a difference a low ppi but at 440ppi no difference at all, The human eye can't see it and it's more battery efficient.

I though samoled used more battery than other screens.
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cell128 said:
I though samoled used more battery than other screens.
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Wrong, considering that samoled's blacks are actually pixels that are turned off and using no power. Why do you think htc's are known for not lasting past 8-10 hrs, since they have lcd panels.
With the s4's new phosphorous based amoled screen, it's supposedly going to provide 40% improved battery efficiency.
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thachosenone said:
Wrong, considering that samoled's blacks are actually pixels that are turned off and using no power. Why do you think htc's are known for not lasting past 8-10 hrs, since they have lcd panels.
With the s4's new phosphorous based amoled screen, it's supposedly going to provide 40% improved battery efficiency.
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Although the battery efficiency is improved, but owing to the Full HD display, the battery will be used for more, so the battery life should make no much difference compared to S3.

Kremata said:
It makes a difference a low ppi but at 440ppi no difference at all, The human eye can't see it and it's more battery efficient.
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I believe it always makes difference. For example in this case there are 2 green sub-pixels for every red and blue pixels. So the number of the green pixels are = 1920x1080. However the number of the red or blue sub-pixels are 1920x1080/2. At this Ppi this can not bother anyone with naked eye but the process of the picture getting created on the screen bothers me. First the GPU draws the picture, then calculates the colors to fit in to a 1080p screen and the image is sent to the screen. Because the digital data of the picture is calculated indepedently from the sub-pixel arrengement, it only contains the colors. Then this whole process starts again to try to fit it to the pentile screen. The green sub-pixel number is equal to the "actual" resolution and they are used as base and then the blue and the red sub-pixels are barrowed from left, right, up or down according to the needs. Too much bother to create an "actually-not-a-1080p-picture" because only the green sub-pixels are really 1080p.
So every time I think about it I want to ask "why they don't just skip trying to sell numbers and put a high burden on the GPU for only one color of sub-pixels, and just make a lower resolution screen with every sub-pixel arrengement and make it perfect". It is a screen just as big as my palm. No need to push the pixels above where the technology could make its magic to the colors, brigthness, sharpness etc.. Because the smaller and more LEDs mean the harder work to do for both GPU and the manufacturer.
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I though samoled used more battery than other screens.
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AMOLED "can" use more battery than other screens on equal brightness. Novadays Samsung prefers to make AMOLED screens highly sun-light resistant so they can reduce the brightness and still give enough visibility under direct sun light, and pentile arrengement is also lowers the cunsumption because the screen doesn't have the pixel number they tell in real life. The the real economy comes when the screen is partially or completely black. Because -unlike any other screen technology- AMOLED uses zero energy to produce blacks.

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gs4 screen pentile or non-pentile
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One of the most important updates that the Samsung Galaxy S4 brings is the new 5" Super AMOLED screen of 1080p resolution. While it does have a PenTile matrix, the 441 ppi pixel density makes sure you won't be able to spot the hated cross-hatch pattern. The defect wasn't easily spotted on the Galaxy S III either unless you looked from a closer-than-comfortable distance, which is to say it was as good as invisible to the naked eye. The design of the PenTile matrix has been changed too, so now green sub-pixels are twice as many as blue and red sub-pixels and the arrangement is changed. This however matters little to anyone not armed with a microscope. What you should take away from all this is that the final weak point of the Super AMOLED screens has been taken care of and the Galaxy S4 offers image quality like no other smartphone on the market. Its impressive contrast and almost perfect viewing angles make everything on the screen pop-up regardless of your view point. The 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display is gorgeous. The color saturation is beyond the reach of any LCD out there, which make even the dullest image appear remarkably vibrant. Still, if you are not a fan of the oversaturated look of the AMOLEDs Samsung gives you the option to tune down the saturation to more natural levels and enjoy the best of both worlds. The brightness levels of the Samsung Galaxy S4 is slightly higher than the rest of the company's AMOLED displays, which is to say not very high. However, due to the low reflectivity this doesn't affect outdoor performance.​
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_delice_doluca_ said:
I believe it always makes difference.
At this Ppi this can not bother anyone with naked eye but the process of the picture getting created on the screen bothers me.
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Who cares how it is created. This is why we have powerful CPU/GPU. If you can't see it what's the difference?

Don't stress
I don't think the pentile screen needs to be the deal breaker it is apparently for so many people, I've read that Samsung has gone to great lengths to calibrate the screen so it looks great.
Read:
http://gadgetinsiders.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-display-impresses-screen-specialist/1207773/

thachosenone said:
Wrong, considering that samoled's blacks are actually pixels that are turned off and using no power. Why do you think htc's are known for not lasting past 8-10 hrs, since they have lcd panels.
With the s4's new phosphorous based amoled screen, it's supposedly going to provide 40% improved battery efficiency.
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They only added a green subpixel pholed(had red one before), so basically it should results in a 25% decrease. Combined with the increased amount of pixels and decreased subpixels(diamond matrix), my guess is that it is more or less equal to an lcd at the same resolution(except when displaying whites).

gabrielpina4 said:
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Another thing to consider is how replaceable the glass on the screen is. The drawback with amoled panels is that most panels have the screen and digitizer glass fused together.
Although I think you can replace the glass on a gs3. But most amoled panels I've seen have them fused together, so replacement is a pain.
Luckily, I have not cracked a screen of the 3 phones I have (2 tmo vibrants, maguro gnex). *knock on wood*
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Don't like Pentile: wrong white color, not uniform, low brightness!
Not only Pentile, Super Amoled manufacturing process not stable, bad color calibrate
Note 2 screen better than S3 but I wish S4 will be much better than Note with Full HD.
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Zanr Zij said:
Don't like Pentile: wrong white color, not uniform, low brightness!
Not only Pentile, Super Amoled manufacturing process not stable, bad color calibrate
Note 2 screen better than S3 but I wish S4 will be much better than Note with Full HD.
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Ofc S4 is going to be better then Note. And in S4 you have now 7 automatic modes and 4 manual for display if you want to adjust brightness and everything else.

It's not pentile
Diamond matrix
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gabrielpina4 said:
So guys does it make a difference ? will if have u not consider it? will having or not having it change your life ? How important is this to you.
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Pentile destroyed the screen of my Note.
But for the S4, I don't think it makes a difference.
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It's not pentile
Diamond matrix
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Diamond-matrix pentile.
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Zanr Zij said:
Don't like Pentile: wrong white color, not uniform, low brightness!
Not only Pentile, Super Amoled manufacturing process not stable, bad color calibrate
Note 2 screen better than S3 but I wish S4 will be much better than Note with Full HD.
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Actually you are wrong.
My Pentile Note is brighter than my SAMOLED+ S2.
But I don't know anything about how Pentile might affect the brightness.
We need a Display Guru here.

Zanr Zij said:
Don't like Pentile: wrong white color, not uniform, low brightness!
Not only Pentile, Super Amoled manufacturing process not stable, bad color calibrate
Note 2 screen better than S3 but I wish S4 will be much better than Note with Full HD.
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The pentile is improved in this s4. Maybe you should wait to [email protected] it before making assumptions. Have read all the review, and imo it's going to be great.
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azrieqb said:
The pentile is improved in this s4. Maybe you should wait to [email protected] it before making assumptions. Have read all the review, and imo it's going to be great.
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Until we have the phone in our hands, making assuptions is all we can do. So either we play the game or we all leave the forum.

Livebyte said:
Diamond-matrix pentile.
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Screen matrix refers to how the sub-pixels are arranged there is no inbetween
Pentile
Not Pentile
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TingTingin said:
Screen matrix refers to how the sub-pixels are arranged there is no inbetween
Pentile
Not Pentile
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That is old pentile. S4 pentile is different.
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That is old pentile. S4 pentile is different.
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Wow
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Returning my Z1

Well I'm going to be returning my Z1 due to the very poor screen.
Everything on the screen isn't sharp enough (funny that as it's a Sharp panel) the colours are very poor. The white are more cream like.
Software is buggy if you turn off optimised backlight.
Ear piece speaker isn't loud enough, probably due to the waterproofing.
Camera is nothing to rave about either.
Yes some of these issues will be sorted out with updates but they might not and I'm not taking the risk on a £550+ device.
It's a shame because I really wanted to like the device but I'll be happy to go back to my Nexus 4!
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Hope you will find a phone that you really love.
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Back to my trusty N4 and maybe the N5. Like I said I really wanted to like the device but even when compared to my nexus 4 the screen on the Z1 looks poor.
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Northern-Loop said:
Well I'm going to be returning my Z1 due to the very poor screen.
Everything on the screen isn't sharp enough (funny that as it's a Sharp panel) the colours are very poor. The white are more cream like.
Software is buggy if you turn off optimised backlight.
Ear piece speaker isn't loud enough, probably due to the waterproofing.
Camera is nothing to rave about either.
Yes some of these issues will be sorted out with updates but they might not and I'm not taking the risk on a £550+ device.
It's a shame because I really wanted to like the device but I'll be happy to go back to my Nexus 4!
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I'm having a similar issue with the screen too... Compared to my Nexus 7 screen, the whites are very creamy! Going to see if they're willing to do an exchange!

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Nexus 4
just see and compare.,,,
Target -- original color
Actual--color the phone shows
Display only problem with gamma at angle... which have huge impact...for rest all spec Z1 is better than nexus4
Speaker and headphone sound is s**t i agree
Camera is nothing to rave about only if you compare dedicated camera... in phone it is good

jos_031 said:
Sony xperia Z1
Nexus 4
just see and compare.,,,
Target -- original color
Actual--color the phone shows
Display only problem with gamma at angle... which have huge impact...for rest all spec Z1 is better than nexus4
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The issue for me when I'm in apps, while my Nexus 7 screen shows a bright white background, the Z1's is a bit yellowy in the same app... I'm going to give it a bit more time... Have 28 days, might exchange for a new one when stock comes into stores...

Sean473 said:
The issue for me when I'm in apps, while my Nexus 7 screen shows a bright white background, the Z1's is a bit yellowy in the same app... I'm going to give it a bit more time... Have 28 days, might exchange for a new one when stock comes into stores...
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I think.... It is dust on screen glue during assembly. they used cheap production... Some phones are affected by this issue... not sure,,,i had yellow tint when i used invisble shield back in india.. Uk no issue ... maybe temp too

jos_031 said:
I think.... It is dust on screen glue during assembly. they used cheap production... Some phones are affected by this issue... not sure,,,i had yellow tint when i used invisble shield back in india.. Uk no issue ... maybe temp too
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To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!

Sean473 said:
To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!
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Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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lee480 said:
Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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Yeah looks pretty white in the test.. I'll hold on compare to other display units when I have a chance on Wednesday and then see how... Its probably my eyes lol..

lee480 said:
Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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Hey I did that test and its yellowish. Is that a build defect?

Same issue with the Xperia T when I compare it with the Xperia play

Z1 screen quality is not that good due to it probably is (at least certain batch) TN/VA panel.
Z1 is not same panel use as Z Ultra which is IPS.

Sean473 said:
To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!
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to me the Amoled screen makes everything look unnatural - like everything looks animated instead of real, it might be pretty to look at but it is just so lacking in detail and texture, I tried watching a movie on anS4 and it looked dark saturated and animated - honestly not really what anyone want
Ever wonder why they don't use Amoled screen on TV's ? if you answer that honestly then you will understand why the Z1 screen is preferable

Geoffxx said:
to me the Amoled screen makes everything look unnatural - like everything looks animated instead of real, it might be pretty to look at but it is just so lacking in detail and texture, I tried watching a movie on anS4 and it looked dark saturated and animated - honestly not really what anyone want
Ever wonder why they don't use Amoled screen on TV's ? if you answer that honestly then you will understand why the Z1 screen is preferable
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It is difficult to fabricate and costly to fabricate large panel using AMOLED. the life of AMOLED is not high to be used in TV..Content mad is for sRGB gamut not for complete visual wavelength... gaming in AMOLED is awesome... other than that Z1 is awesome..

Tested the camera vs my HTC one. Z1 is pretty good Imo.
Screen has poor viewing angles, but who's really going to look at the phone at these angles really....
And the yellowish screen, not as white as my HTC one, but it's not yellow as others are saying. I remember the s3 and note 2 were yellow so idk
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expertzero1 said:
Tested the camera vs my HTC one. Z1 is pretty good Imo.
Screen has poor viewing angles, but who's really going to look at the phone at these angles really....
And the yellowish screen, not as white as my HTC one, but it's not yellow as others are saying. I remember the s3 and note 2 were yellow so idk
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Can you post a screenshot of what you got in the test?

I don't think the z1 screen is the best out there but not bad. and much better than the old z software is fine here. fast and snappy camera decent. Not better than my 1020 but better than a lot of phones out there.
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ajftl said:
I don't think the z1 screen is the best out there but not bad. and much better than the old z software is fine here. fast and snappy camera decent. Not better than my 1020 but better than a lot of phones out there.
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I was comparing screen colours to my nexus 4 and they were well off.
There is no way I'm accepting a device that is worse then the model it's replacing.
Let's see what the N5 brings.
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Northern-Loop said:
I was comparing screen colours to my nexus 4 and they were well off.
There is no way I'm accepting a device that is worse then the model it's replacing.
Let's see what the N5 brings.
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Wise choice if you are unhappy with a device then no point keeping it and you really cannot go wrong with the Nexus range anyway.

Display quality compared to previous AMOLED devices?

I have a note 2 since it's release and a gs2 before that, and I'm completely sick of AMOLED because both look terrible due to the issues below.
So, my questions: resolution and PPI aside, of course,
Does your Note 3 screen look like fresh urine?
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Does it have ink spots(easily visible on pitch black backgrounds and in dark rooms)?
Does the colors, especially whites, look grainy?
Thanks for answering!
I should mention I've seen two of my friends Note 3 devices and both have the greenish yellow tint.
I'll have a hard time continuing to buy amoled devices if samsung keeps shipping these defective displays.

Good thread. I am also curious of screen burn in... as in some reviews, they mentioned it and note 2 had some issues with it.

My N9005 screen is not yellow/greenish. Don't have any spots of any kind either.
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Mine has a slight tint but isn't noticeable. Also, the screen is literally pitch black in the dark with no spots.

With my S II i was able to see when the screen was on even tho it showed pitch black. I honestly can't see it with my Note 3. I can't believe they managed to produce a true black color.
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The yellow tint reminds me of my Apple iphone days. So the culprit was indeed Samsung making the panels for apple? HAHAH
To get a less yellow screen on the iphone 4s was like a lottery.
My GS4 also was yellow, but when I tilted the screen a little it went blue.

My screen has a bit of the yellow tint, but also turns bluish when I tilt it. No spots whatsoever though. My last 3 samsung phones all had mura & spots, but this one is perfect.

Rallerbabz said:
With my S II i was able to see when the screen was on even tho it showed pitch black. I honestly can't see it with my Note 3. I can't believe they managed to produce a true black color.
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The true black is from turning the pixels backlight off.
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danieljamie said:
The true black is from turning the pixels backlight off.
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Yeah, I know. But they said that with S II, but I was still able to see it was on in the dark.
Sent from my Note 3

The White hue is never going to be pure white. I suggest you do a bit of research on how displays actually work. That said, it's the same white as on my IPS-LED laptop.
My SGS3 had horrible black spots, my Note 3 does not have a single one.
If I have to choose between AmoLED with not-eyebreaking white, and LCD with black that more resembles a light grey, I'll settle for the amoLED without a second doubt.
I can't stand white on a display to begin with. I'm photosensitive and prone to migraines. it's too bloody painful to look at anything white and lit. Of course every single idiotic designer insists on using as much white as possible, because 'that's the trend!'. No, that's Apple copying. But then you do own an iMac, so nobody accused you of being original... (I'm not talking to anyone in particular.)
The biggest advantage to AmoLED over LCD is that black is BLACK. And anything black doesn't use power.
That said, setting it to Movie mode gives off much more natural colours.

Rallerbabz said:
Yeah, I know. But they said that with S II, but I was still able to see it was on in the dark.
Sent from my Note 3
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I'm not sure about the S II but the note 3 is definitely true black with pixels actually OFF. Get an all black image and go in a pitch dark room and you will see nothing...
I have a PS Vita and that is blotchy in the dark... shame.
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danieljamie said:
I'm not sure about the S II but the note 3 is definitely true black with pixels actually OFF. Get an all black image and go in a pitch dark room and you will see nothing...
I have a PS Vita and that is blotchy in the dark... shame.
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I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying.
I say Note 3 has the pitch black, that my S II didn't have. Even tho they stated that the S II should've it back in time
Sent from my Note 3

Rallerbabz said:
I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying.
I say Note 3 has the pitch black, that my S II didn't have. Even tho they stated that the S II should've it back in time
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Ohh.. my bad
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danieljamie said:
Ohh.. my bad
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No it doens't look like fresh urine, thrut be told.. note 2 screen sucked .. low light , bad whites ( no whites..) etc .. note 1 screen was great .. but was a battery hog..
and when the screen is displaying black.. it's just like the phone is turn of ..the first TRUE black I have encountered, yes they say that with every amoled they release... but in practice we know that is not the true .
Samsung just put together the best of both screens (note 1 and note 2) and then some more !

heavylift said:
No it doens't look like fresh urine, thrut be told.. note 2 screen sucked .. low light , bad whites ( no whites..) etc .. note 1 screen was great .. but was a battery hog..
and when the screen is displaying black.. it's just like the phone is turn of ..the first TRUE black I have encountered, yes they say that with every amoled they release... but in practice we know that is not the true .
Samsung just put together the best of both screens (note 1 and note 2) and then some more !
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The blacks on my note 3 are true. On my sgs4 they were green. Typical QC mass productions I guess. Wife's sgs4 was perfect. Visible only in low light.
Sent from my SM-N900T

If you hate then get a different phone. Not like someone is forcing to buy it. There are several high end phones that use lcd panels.
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So, what is the fraction of units that does not have any issue with the display whatsoever? My wife's Note 2 has perfect display, but my Note 3 has different brightness/contrast/saturation on top of the screen compared to the bottom... On monday I am to go and replace the display on warranty but I am affraid that the new screen will not be any better or even worse... In my case there is no color tint or lines or anything else just that difference in brightness... Is it worth it?

My Note 3 had no display problems. Same quality as my S4 which is great

darkchazz said:
I have a note 2 since it's release and a gs2 before that, and I'm completely sick of AMOLED because both look terrible due to the issues below.
So, my questions: resolution and PPI aside, of course,
Does your Note 3 screen look like fresh urine?
Does it have ink spots(easily visible on pitch black backgrounds and in dark rooms)?
Does the colors, especially whites, look grainy?
Thanks for answering!
I should mention I've seen two of my friends Note 3 devices and both have the greenish yellow tint.
I'll have a hard time continuing to buy amoled devices if samsung keeps shipping these defective displays.
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I have also had galaxy note 2 and I'm now on the galaxy note 3. I had to order a replacement of one of my galaxy note threes because I did find the yellow tent with blue green as you describe. But other phone is quite good in color. It has very good whites. However it does suffer with a bit of a pinkish or darker discoloration in the lower third of the screen mostly in the right corner. I am awaiting a replacement from my carrier. Hopefully it will be better than this one. However I have kind of gotten used to it and otherwise the display is brilliant.
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Limeybastard said:
The yellow tint reminds me of my Apple iphone days. So the culprit was indeed Samsung making the panels for apple? HAHAH
To get a less yellow screen on the iphone 4s was like a lottery.
My GS4 also was yellow, but when I tilted the screen a little it went blue.
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How does the same issue I had with one of my note 3 phones. It was similar to your galaxy S4. I think that there are probably more than one factory where the screens are manufactured. There must be one batch of screams coming from a factory that have a warmer more yellow tint that shifts strongly to Bluegreen when angling the screen. The other batch of screens must be more in the wider redder with only minimal tinting when shifting the screen on an angle.