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Does the S3's pentile matrix clinch victory for the HTC One X?

Strong opinion follows:
Wow, shocked.
The Galaxy SIII uses a pentile matrix, while the SII does not. The HTC One X does not either. The presence of a pentile matrix is something that most people dislike, for those who are new to the terms. It refers to a for lack of a better term, pixelated effect/screen door/slightly blurry/piezzo electric type of effect. People have a hard time describing it, but know it when they see it.
The HTC One X, a direct competitor to the S3, is receiving heaps of praise for its screen. In fact, many sites are calling it the nicest screen that they have ever seen on a smartphone (Anandtech and many other reputable sites).
I have seen the HTC One X, and it is without a doubt the nicest screen that I have ever seen as well. The iPhone 4/4S is STILL equally good, but it's just that it's 3.5 inches.
Anyway, I can not believe that Samsung would seemingly go backwards. In choosing the pentile matrix, which even before today had clearly been positioned as a less expensive screen, Samsung has sealed the One X as the phone to get for smartphone afficionados. Maybe not for the general public, but in my informal testing, everyone has noticed the pentile matrix.
As you can tell, I really loathe the pentile matrix, even at 1280x720p. I've used an iPhone before, so maybe I am spoiled, but I don't think it's too demanding to ask for a nice screen if you're willing to pay for a flagship device. After all, these devices are 90% screen. It's what you stare at and what you touch all day. I've also felt that the Samsung screens are too vibrant (not a big deal to me), but also too dim. As such, they probably could get better battery life purely b/c the max nits in the SII was only 300 nits vs 500 nits for the iphone 4 and one x.
Maybe Samsung has something else up its sleeve, but the S3 is to me no longer the phone to get. The One X with the Snapdragon 4 is definitely the way to go.
For Samsung's sake I hope that they did some market research regarding the effect of a pentile display on their flagship phone before deciding to cut corners.
I was all over the Galaxy Nexus until I saw the pentile. Waited for the S3 b/c surely that would have a premium display.
Sorry, self edit: there are more important things in life, but not as far as smartphones go :>

well, I also hoped for non pentile screen but it seems that right now it's not possible to make HD screens with non-pentile, if it was possible to make HD screens with real RGB then they would do that... and the One X use Tegra 3 not S4.

if you have used pentile before like on the original SGS1 or the Galaxy Nexus, (old HTC Desire, or several Nokia phones) and you liked it, then you'll love it
if you did not like it back then, you will not like it now, as simple as that.
I was hooked since SGS1

its it possible to notice the difference between non pentile and pentile screens at 720p?

diehard2222 said:
its it possible to notice the difference between non pentile and pentile screens at 720p?
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it's a lot less noticeable, due the smaller concentration of pixels
but people with sensitive eyes for Green / Blue will still get annoyed by the pentile screen purplish, bluish or greenish hue, which i don't see it unless i put the screen 45 degree to the left or to the right

diehard2222 said:
its it possible to notice the difference between non pentile and pentile screens at 720p?
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My opinion:
Definitely noticeable by everyone. Without question.
What varies is how much the effect bothers you, but will you see it, yes. Even on a 720p display.
If they made two identical versions of the S3, one with and one without the pentile, and cost was identical, service plan was identical, and let people see both before buying, my thinking is that 10 out of 10 people would choose the S3 without a pentile matrix.

diehard2222 said:
its it possible to notice the difference between non pentile and pentile screens at 720p?
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yes it is at a close distance. it sounds all good in spec but at rendering videos i don't know why Samsung always gets it wrong with pentile display. every time its supercurio who we have to turn to due to Samsung's incompitance.

lamenramen said:
Strong opinion follows:
Wow, shocked.
The Galaxy SIII uses a pentile matrix, while the SII does not.
The HTC One X, which is receiving heaps of praise, especially for its screen being the nicest many have ever seen on a smartphone (according to Anandtech and many other reputable sites), does not use a pentile matrix screen (not even the same screen tech).
I have seen the HTC One X, and it is without a doubt the nicest screen that I have ever seen as well. The iPhone 4/4S is STILL equally good, but it's just that it's 3.5 inches.
Anyway, I can not believe that Samsung would seemingly go backwards. In choosing the pentile matrix, which even before today had clearly been positioned as a less expensive screen, Samsung has sealed the One X as the phone to get for smartphone afficionados. Maybe not for the general public, but in my informal testing, everyone has noticed the pentile matrix.
As you can tell, I really loathe the pentile matrix, even at 1280x720p. I've used an iPhone before, so maybe I am spoiled, but I don't think it's too demanding to ask for a nice screen if you're willing to pay for a flagship device. After all, these devices are 90% screen. It's what you stare at and what you touch all day. I've also felt that the Samsung screens are too vibrant (not a big deal to me), but also too dim. As such, they probably could get better battery life purely b/c the max nits in the SII was only 300 nits vs 500 nits for the iphone 4 and one x.
Maybe Samsung has something else up its sleeve, but the S3 is to me no longer the phone to get. The One X with the Snapdragon 4 is definitely the way to go.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.

Deal breaker. Check in galaxy note forum for pentile screen issues, banding & black clipping/distortion in videos.
I.switched to one x from note especially for black clipping in videos.
For info, Note is also using pentile hd screen.
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why not wait for an official review/comparison before judging by ourselves?

Major killer point for the SGS3 IMO. Not impressed with Samusng. So much hype for this phone. And it disappoints.
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olyloh6696 said:
Major killer point for the SGS3 IMO. Not impressed with Samusng. So much hype for this phone. And it disappoints.
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Its not Samsung who dissapoint its the press and fans who do that for themselves. Same thing happens with Apple for each iPhone. This phone will sell in the millions regardless, its the iPhone of the Android world now.
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i think if the One X hade a removable batterie and a SD Card it would be a SGS Killer

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... and the One X use Tegra 3 not S4.
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But the One XL uses S4 Just forgot to say it

This is a super phone. The Note had a great screen. If that's what you call pentile, then it's a great screen
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lamenramen said:
My opinion:
Definitely noticeable by everyone. Without question.
What varies is how much the effect bothers you, but will you see it, yes. Even on a 720p display.
If they made two identical versions of the S3, one with and one without the pentile, and cost was identical, service plan was identical, and let people see both before buying, my thinking is that 10 out of 10 people would choose the S3 without a pentile matrix.
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I don't notice it.
But some do, they say once you see it, you can't unsee it, but since I don't, it won't be a factor in my decision.
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The features of Samsungs touchwiz is what is going to set it apart. I played with a one x today and was sold it is an extremely solid phone, however im gonna wait and see what the AT&T gs3 is like before buying. I also want a phone with a large dev support/community.
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at resolution as high as these, they're not that noticeable
Pixel density is too high

I'm guessing super amoled HD plus is still too expensive..the galaxy tab 7.7 has it..
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htc fan89 said:
I'm guessing super amoled HD plus is still too expensive..the galaxy tab 7.7 has it..
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Yes Its on my Tab 7.7
By far the nicest screen I have seen on any device.
Probably is too expensive.

Is the Note 2 Screen inferior to the S3?

Contemplating with a 3g version, this issue bugs me, is this true?

Ev0d3vil said:
Contemplating with a 3g version, this issue bugs me, is this true?
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My brother owns an S3 and I own a note 2. When we put it side by side, his S3 does indeed look sharper than my Note 2. A tech savvy friend of mine told me that it was because the S3 has a smaller screen with the same number of pixels as the Note 2. Therefore, the S3 is sharper in that sense as there are more pixels per inch of the phone.
The Note 2 on the other hand is supposed to use an rgb matrix pattern as opposed to the S3 which uses a pentile display. RGB is supposed to be superior to the pentile method for color reproduction and sharpness so in that sense the Note 2 actually makes up for a bit of lost ground when compared to the S3 having more pixels per inch of the screen.
There's a detailed comparison here..
Anyway, thats about as far as I could understand from my friend but from my own personal experience, yes you will notice the S3 to be sharper somewhat when compared to the Note 2 but the difference isn't very glaring either unless you put them side by side and start nit picking on each part of the screen.

chessnut said:
My brother owns an S3 and I own a note 2. When we put it side by side, his S3 does indeed look sharper than my Note 2. A tech savvy friend of mine told me that it was because the S3 has a smaller screen with the same number of pixels as the Note 2. Therefore, the S3 is sharper in that sense as there are more pixels per inch of the phone.
The Note 2 on the other hand is supposed to use an rgb matrix pattern as opposed to the S3 which uses a pentile display. RGB is supposed to be superior to the pentile method for color reproduction and sharpness so in that sense the Note 2 actually makes up for a bit of lost ground when compared to the S3 having more pixels per inch of the screen.
There's a detailed comparison here..
Anyway, thats about as far as I could understand from my friend but from my own personal experience, yes you will notice the S3 to be sharper somewhat when compared to the Note 2 but the difference isn't very glaring either unless you put them side by side and start nit picking on each part of the screen.
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I have both devices and it's fair to say this is a spot on explanation, the Note 2 feels softer one tip is try reducing your ro.sf.lcd_density to 300 on the note 2 makes everything a bit smaller and a bit sharper IMO.

SIII does definitely look sharper because of the above said reason.

I like the note 2 screen better becaus it's not pentile and to me looks sharper then the s3 screen.
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The size and the screen issue are actually stopping me from upgrading... Tempting though.
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Gunner86 said:
I like the note 2 screen better becaus it's not pentile and to me looks sharper then the s3 screen.
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+1. To my eyes, the S3 screen doesn't look near as good as the Note 2's. I think the Note 2 has the best mobile display at this time. The only thing that could make it better is if it was 1080p with the RGB arrangement. Hopefully we get the bump in res on the Note 3.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963732
Check that video out. Just skip in where the display is tackled. Its explained everything there. After watching the whole video, im inlove with this saxy beast more!
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Ev0d3vil said:
Contemplating with a 3g version, this issue bugs me, is this true?
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In a word, no.

That's so weird, my s3 screen doesn't look nearly as good as my note does.
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cashyftw said:
That's so weird, my s3 screen doesn't look nearly as good as my note does.
Sent from my Note Dos (;
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Yea seriously are people getting different panels for their S3's than my previous one?
I had an international GT-I9300 S3, and before that I had the international GT-N7000 Note 1.
Out of the 3, the Note 2 is by far the best display, followed by the Note 1 and last would be my S3.
When I switched from the Note 1 to the S3, I immediately was a little disappointed, the S3's screen just wasn't as sharp as the Note 1 and the Note 2's display is far superior the the Note 1.

Tech OCD rears it's ugly head yet again.
The screen on the Note II is stunning. End of thread.

Note screen it's nicer, I've had both and it finely is sharper for text and the colours seem nicer
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All made by Samsung
S3 or Note 2 , their screens are all made by samsung, just RGB is different from pentile
But in my opinion these two screens look almost the same

Does nexus 10 have AMOLED screen?

Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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mvmacd said:
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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It uses PLS screen (Plane-to-Line Switching)
Further improvement in viewing angle
10 percent increase in brightness
Up to 15 percent decrease in production costs
Increased image quality
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hiepgia said:
It uses PLS screen (Plane-to-Line Switching)
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Right its RGBW not RGBG so Its gonna be quite different but definitely better than RGBG pen tile display in terms of whites even when compared to LCD it would be brighter
Also reviewers say that display looks quite awesome
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-10-hands-on-video/
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Right its RGBW not RGBG so Its gonna be quite different but definitely better than RGBG pen tile display in terms of whites even when compared to LCD it would be brighter
Also reviewers say that display looks quite awesome
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-10-hands-on-video/
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RGBW? is it different than the standard RGB subpixel? like the [retina] ipad?

mvmacd said:
RGBW? is it different than the standard RGB subpixel? like the [retina] ipad?
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It uses IPS screen. I would inform you that IPS screen might show problems with ghosting image as new Apple Macbook Retina Display.

Personally I prefer IPS LCD to Super Amoled technology. I prefer the more natural tones to the saturated colours on the SAMOLED.

What it is:
PLS - Plane to Line Switching. PLS screens are exclusive to Samsung.
RGB stripe - just like your desktop display.
What it is not:
IPS - In Plane Switching. While IPS and PLS are similar, there are differences, and PLS is generally thought to be superior.
RGBW - There is no evidence to support it being a RGBW display. Samsung has a RGBW display, but Google wanted a pure RGB display.
Pentile - Nope. No funky triangular subpixels or RGRB going on here.
Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-10-specs-review-400-to-push-4-million-pixels-are-they-PenTile_id36103

mvmacd said:
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
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It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.

NexusDro said:
It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.
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Well yeah the galaxy note 2 has amoled screen without pentile subpixel.
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dethrat said:
Well yeah the galaxy note 2 has amoled screen without pentile subpixel.
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Nope it's PLS-LCD, not AMOLED. Completely different, no per-pixel backlight.

Samsung seems to be saying that PLS is an IPS like display, we'll have to wait and see what the reviews say.
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yumcax said:
Nope it's PLS-LCD, not AMOLED. Completely different, no per-pixel backlight.
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I think you confused the Note 2 with the Note 10.1. The note 2 is SAMOLED with full RGB subpixel.

mvmacd said:
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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It is impossible to set up such an huge OLED screen, with a high pixel density of 300 ppi.
If galaxy s3's screen(~5 inch) has a 90% yield, then a 10-inch-oled-300ppi screen would only get a 65% yield.
further more, the screen may take up too much power, around 10 watt, (white at 300nit)

NexusDro said:
It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.
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No, I don't have a misconception.. I know Super AMOLED means PenTile subpixel, whereas Super AMOLED+ means RGB subpixel.
At least that is what an article I read said.
At any rate I know that 'AMOLED' doesn't mean PenTile, but in most cases [aside from Super AMOLED+] it does.
And thanks everyone.. I can't wait to get one of these, but I will have to wait till they go for cheaper on craigslist, because $499 is a little to much to spend right now. [and 16GB is just a little too small]

Nexus 4 IPS+ display is very better?

hello should move from a galaxy nexus to a nexus4 considering only the question of the display? I care that the display is really powerful, so I ask, it's worth it?

Hell yeah its worth it first day screen looks washed out but its getting better and better samething with nexus 7. Viewing angle on sunlight is just amazing even on 30% brightness whereas on gnex its all dark . black is pure so black oh did I say this phone is faster than the light ?
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That is mostly opinion. They are about the same resolution , although the LCD has more accurate colors, so if you want that super lushness, you might want to stick with the galaxy nexus
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So I yesterday I compared a display of Galaxy Nexus and that of the new iPhone5. Unfortunately the iPhone5 has a screen with much higher detail. I want to know if it's worth it to go from a new galaxy nexus nexus 4, that is, has a screen that comes close in quality to that of the new iPhone5?

SuperXDADev said:
So I yesterday I compared a display of Galaxy Nexus and that of the new iPhone5. Unfortunately the iPhone5 has a screen with much higher detail. I want to know if it's worth it to go from a new galaxy nexus nexus 4, that is, has a screen that comes close in quality to that of the new iPhone5?
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If you fancy that much the iPhone 5 you shouldnt be looking here in XDA mate

Iphone 5: 1136 x 640 pixels, 326 ppi
Nexus 4: 1280 x 768 pixels, ~318 ppi

Yes also Galaxy nexus has a 318 PPI but it's a pentile panel and details of screen is poor respect to other device.
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many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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nic85 said:
many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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That's old news. Now it's that of HTC's Droid DNA.

nic85 said:
many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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Now its the Droid DNA

Honestly I wish it had OLED, pentile or not. Im not very impressed by the blacks on this phone, and once it gets dark the screen doesnt look nearly as good as AMOLED, I would say my old low res galaxy s pentile AMOLED looks better after the sun goes down. Its also too desaturated for me, which is a frequent review complaint, theres no punch.
Most people seem to prefer IPS screens over pentile AMOLED but the blacks suck so bad in comparison I'll take deep blacks over jaggy text that you cant really see unless its right up to your face.
imo: blacks>>>>>>>>>every other aspect of a display

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That is mostly opinion. They are about the same resolution , although the LCD has more accurate colors, so if you want that super lushness, you might want to stick with the galaxy nexus
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the only benefits of PenTile matrix AMOLED screens:
- black is extremely black
- maybe save an unnoticeable amount of battery
the only benefits of RGB matrix AMOLED screens:
- black is extremely black
- colours are vibrant in a cartoony way
- you dont notice pixelation, texts are crisp
- maybe save an unnoticeable amount of battery
benefits of RGB matrix LCD IPS screens:
- extreme viewing angles
- vibrant and realistic colours
- white is white
- you dont notice pixelation, texts are crisp
- colours dont fade
and since a lot of AMOLED uses PenTile, your options are between a ****ty amoled or an amazing LCD

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many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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I've got the HOX and N4. I think the One x still has the best display - the colours are better and it just looks so fluid with the way the glass is curved. The N4 isn't far off though.
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My opinion if you want...
HD AMOLED screens are amazing... I was very disappointed to learn Nexus 4 was not using it this time.
If you did not own one before you might not miss it... but the contrast is sooooo much better then the kinda blacks you get on an LCD
Plus the technology is amazing... organic material that emits vivid colored light... vs... just white light shining trough color filters like LCD... this is a very old concept.
And you can only notice pentile under a microscope with HD screens

rbrucemtl said:
My opinion if you want...
HD AMOLED screens are amazing... I was very disappointed to learn Nexus 4 was not using it this time.
If you did not own one before you might not miss it... but the contrast is sooooo much better then the kinda blacks you get on an LCD
Plus the technology is amazing... organic material that emits vivid colored light... vs... just white light shining trough color filters like LCD... this is a very old concept.
And you can only notice pentile under a microscope with HD screens
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I know that everyone has different taste in screens, so you really have to look at it to decide which you like best.
I haven't seen the Nexus 4 yet, but I compared the Optimus G to the Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and I thought that the Optimus G looked just as good as the One X. I couldn't see a difference in colors. Icons looked exactly the same to me. I compared the Chome icon on both and the saturation looked the same. I personally can't stand HD AMOLED, and I can notice pentile clearly on the GS3 from the normal distance I hold the phone away from my face and I find it very distracting.
I find the colors on the Optimus G very pleasing while the HD AMOLED in the GS3 looks dirty to me. The colors are too oversaturated and whites don't look right. I can't stand looking at the GS3 screen. I was very excited when I heard that the Nexus 4 was moving to IPS. I wish they could make an OLED with the same color saturation as IPS but the blacks of the OLED.
So, for anyone trying to decide on the Nexus 4, my advise is to go to the store and look at both the Optimus G and Galaxy S3 and decide for yourself.

i, for some reason hate amoled (pentile) screens. i cant stand the screen burn, over pixelated edges, and the "ink spot" effect it has on super dark colors. ill pick dull-ish blacks over those issues, and i dont like everything to be dark colored so it defeats the purpose. thats just my 2 cents though. lol
thats why i got so excited about the nexus 4 screen

stratax said:
i, for some reason hate amoled (pentile) screens. i cant stand the screen burn, over pixelated edges, and the "ink spot" effect it has on super dark colors. ill pick dull-ish blacks over those issues, and i dont like everything to be dark colored so it defeats the purpose. thats just my 2 cents though. lol
thats why i got so excited about the nexus 4 screen
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I accept the horrible camera and cheap plasticky build of my Gnex, but I freaking hate whit all my passion this Crappy Amoled display, so the IPS LCD display is a welcome update.
PS: I HATE AMOLED DISPLAYS...
SKYNET

Should move not you display are is better who greater
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Think of it LG makes some kickass TVs. Also Samsung, I don't know why the just don't go that way. It costs 150+ to get a Gnex screen/digitizer. It costs 75 or so for a iPhone LCD screen? Waaaa
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Should move not you display are is better who greater
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How you liking it chief!? I can't wait till Monday for mine!
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LucasMac said:
I know that everyone has different taste in screens, so you really have to look at it to decide which you like best.
I haven't seen the Nexus 4 yet, but I compared the Optimus G to the Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and I thought that the Optimus G looked just as good as the One X. I couldn't see a difference in colors. Icons looked exactly the same to me. I compared the Chome icon on both and the saturation looked the same. I personally can't stand HD AMOLED, and I can notice pentile clearly on the GS3 from the normal distance I hold the phone away from my face and I find it very distracting.
I find the colors on the Optimus G very pleasing while the HD AMOLED in the GS3 looks dirty to me. The colors are too oversaturated and whites don't look right. I can't stand looking at the GS3 screen. I was very excited when I heard that the Nexus 4 was moving to IPS. I wish they could make an OLED with the same color saturation as IPS but the blacks of the OLED.
So, for anyone trying to decide on the Nexus 4, my advise is to go to the store and look at both the Optimus G and Galaxy S3 and decide for yourself.
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are you sure? according with many blog and users the one X should have a bit more saturated colors and better viewing angles
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Amoled vs Super Amoled

Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
What do you guys think? I haven't held a moto x and S5 together but I absolutely love the S5 screen.
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If anything, the 2k screen will be less bright...
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Resolution has nothing to do with brightness or vibrancy
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Nitemare3219 said:
It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Huh? You don't push light through pixels with amoled screens. Per pixel brightness is certainly not affected by resolution, perhaps only with LCD screens.

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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Amoled displays don't have backlights, the display itself is the source of light.
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My mistake, completely forgot that part about AMOLED. Been using IPS screens since I had a Galaxy Nexus, and that screen was junk.. so I've been wanting to stick to IPS. My G3 is gorgeous, so I'm kinda scared to see the N6 with AMOLED.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.

theoneofgod said:
Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Mura affects aren't really part of amoled. Oled screens it is like on my ps Vita
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RedBlueGreen said:
Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
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AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.

Are you sure cause the S2 with Super AMOLED was significantly better than their regular AMOLED models like the GNEX.
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I've not used AMOLED since my Galaxy Nexus, but it was horrendous. Banding visible all over the screen on grey or beige (light colored) screens.
Plus, it had burn in on the status bar that I could always see on full screen youtube videos etc. Was terrible.
I'm wondering have they improved the hardware technology since then or can I expect that again on the Nexus 6,
Look forward to the reviews on here after launch. :laugh:
The OCD fanboys who buy the first wave will be busy detailing the issues. I used to be one of them. I'll wait till the second wave this time. haha :good::laugh:

gtalum said:
AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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gtalum said:
AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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Imagine if they used non pentile
This is a quick pull from wiki explaining the difference between all amoled screens
Super AMOLED[edit]
Super AMOLED is Samsung's term for an AMOLED display with an integrated digitizer, meaning that the layer that detects touch is integrated into the screen, rather than overlaid on top of it. According to Samsung, Super AMOLED reflects one-fifth as much sunlight compared to the first generation AMOLED.[21][22] The display technology itself is not changed. Super AMOLED is part of the Pentile matrix family. It is sometimes abbreviated SAMOLED.
For the Samsung Galaxy S III, which reverted to Super AMOLED instead of the pixelation-free conventional RGB (non-PenTile) Super AMOLED Plus of its predecessor Samsung Galaxy S II, the S III's larger screen size encourages users to hold the phone further from their face to obscure the PenTile effect.[23]
Super AMOLED Advanced[edit]
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Super AMOLED Advanced is a term marketed by Motorola to describe a brighter display than Super AMOLED screens, but also a higher resolution – qHD or 960 × 540 for Super AMOLED Advanced compared to WVGA or 800 × 480 for Super AMOLED. It also is 25% more energy efficient. Super AMOLED Advanced features PenTile, which sharpens subpixels in between pixels to make a higher resolution display, but by doing this, some picture quality is lost.[24] This display equips the Motorola Droid RAZR.[25]
Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
The Samsung Galaxy S II, with a Super AMOLED Plus screen
Super AMOLED Plus, first introduced with the Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Droid Charge smartphones, is a branding from Samsung where the PenTile RGBG pixel matrix (2 subpixels) used in Super AMOLED displays has been replaced with a traditional RGB RGB (3 subpixels) arrangement typically used in LCD displays. This variant of AMOLED is brighter and therefore more energy efficient than Super AMOLED displays[26] and produces a sharper, less grainy image because of the increased number of subpixels. In comparison to AMOLED and Super AMOLED displays, the Super AMOLED Plus displays are even more energy efficient and brighter. However, Samsung cited screen life and costs by not using Plus on the Galaxy S II's successor, the Samsung Galaxy S III.[18]
HD Super AMOLED[edit]
Galaxy Note II subpixels representation, based on 400X image of the Note II display[27]
The Galaxy Nexus, with an HD Super AMOLED screen[28]
HD Super AMOLED is a branding from Samsung for an HD-resolution (>1280×720) Super AMOLED display. The first device to use it was the Samsung Galaxy Note. The Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S III both implement the HD Super AMOLED with a PenTile RGBG-matrix (2 subpixels/pixel), while the Galaxy Note II uses an RBG matrix (3 subpixels/pixel) but not in the standard 3 stripe arrangement.[27]
HD Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
A variant of the Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tizen OS 1 was benchmarked using a non-pentile HD Super AMOLED Plus screen in 2012.[29]
Full HD Super AMOLED[edit]
As featured on the Samsung Galaxy S4[30] and Samsung Galaxy Note 3. It has the broadest color gamut of any mobile display of up to 97% of the Adobe RGB color space, hence making it a wide-gamut display.[31][32]
Future[edit]
Future displays exhibited from 2011 to 2013 by Samsung have shown flexible, 3D, unbreakable, transparent Super AMOLED Plus displays using very high resolutions and in varying sizes for phones. These unreleased prototypes use a polymer as a substrate removing the need for glass cover, a metal backing, and touch matrix, combining them into one integrated layer.[33]
So far, Samsung plans on branding the newer displays as Youm.[34]
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OMFG are people here really this clueless? Samsung calls ALL their AMOLED panels Super AMOLED. That includes the ones they sell to Motorola and Nokia. They are ALL made by Samsung. The reason why the Moto X 2014 doesn't look as good as the Galaxy S5 is because Samsung ALWAYS sells the last generation to their competitors and saves the latest generation for themselves. In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4, not the S5. And for those dumb people who keep on saying higher resolution means lower brightness, this is only true for LCD since they use a backlight and it has to shine through each pixel, with more pixels decreasing the brightness overall. AMOLED is completely different in that each pixel is its own light source and when you pack them together, they will be brighter not dimmer, just like how your vanity mirror in your restroom will be brighter with three small 600 lumen bulbs near each other versus just one 900 lumen bulb.

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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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For me both suck... cause of degradation of the organic led.. colors become toned... and burn in issue.. they are simply inadequate.. expecially at that price...

From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.

Nitemare3219 said:
Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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screen burn isn't a thing of the past.. beacause the technology il still the same.. organic led degradate with use.. losing brightness and uncalibrating all screen colors (this with homogeneous wear) but some elements like status bar icons and navbar buttons are always in the same position!! And they will burn in inevitably

Pilz said:
From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
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In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4
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There is a slight difference between the moto X 2014 and S4 screens.
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Super AMOLED is a version of AMOLED display technology that integrates a capacitive touchscreen layer directly into the display instead of overlaying it on top of the display, as has traditionally been done. This results in a thinner design that uses less power and reflects less light, and as a result works better outdoors.
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