Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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mvmacd said:
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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It uses PLS screen (Plane-to-Line Switching)
Further improvement in viewing angle
10 percent increase in brightness
Up to 15 percent decrease in production costs
Increased image quality
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It uses PLS screen (Plane-to-Line Switching)
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Right its RGBW not RGBG so Its gonna be quite different but definitely better than RGBG pen tile display in terms of whites even when compared to LCD it would be brighter
Also reviewers say that display looks quite awesome
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-10-hands-on-video/
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Right its RGBW not RGBG so Its gonna be quite different but definitely better than RGBG pen tile display in terms of whites even when compared to LCD it would be brighter
Also reviewers say that display looks quite awesome
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-10-hands-on-video/
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RGBW? is it different than the standard RGB subpixel? like the [retina] ipad?
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RGBW? is it different than the standard RGB subpixel? like the [retina] ipad?
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It uses IPS screen. I would inform you that IPS screen might show problems with ghosting image as new Apple Macbook Retina Display.
Personally I prefer IPS LCD to Super Amoled technology. I prefer the more natural tones to the saturated colours on the SAMOLED.
What it is:
PLS - Plane to Line Switching. PLS screens are exclusive to Samsung.
RGB stripe - just like your desktop display.
What it is not:
IPS - In Plane Switching. While IPS and PLS are similar, there are differences, and PLS is generally thought to be superior.
RGBW - There is no evidence to support it being a RGBW display. Samsung has a RGBW display, but Google wanted a pure RGB display.
Pentile - Nope. No funky triangular subpixels or RGRB going on here.
Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-10-specs-review-400-to-push-4-million-pixels-are-they-PenTile_id36103
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Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
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It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.
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It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.
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Well yeah the galaxy note 2 has amoled screen without pentile subpixel.
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dethrat said:
Well yeah the galaxy note 2 has amoled screen without pentile subpixel.
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Nope it's PLS-LCD, not AMOLED. Completely different, no per-pixel backlight.
Samsung seems to be saying that PLS is an IPS like display, we'll have to wait and see what the reviews say.
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Nope it's PLS-LCD, not AMOLED. Completely different, no per-pixel backlight.
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I think you confused the Note 2 with the Note 10.1. The note 2 is SAMOLED with full RGB subpixel.
mvmacd said:
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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It is impossible to set up such an huge OLED screen, with a high pixel density of 300 ppi.
If galaxy s3's screen(~5 inch) has a 90% yield, then a 10-inch-oled-300ppi screen would only get a 65% yield.
further more, the screen may take up too much power, around 10 watt, (white at 300nit)
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It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.
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No, I don't have a misconception.. I know Super AMOLED means PenTile subpixel, whereas Super AMOLED+ means RGB subpixel.
At least that is what an article I read said.
At any rate I know that 'AMOLED' doesn't mean PenTile, but in most cases [aside from Super AMOLED+] it does.
And thanks everyone.. I can't wait to get one of these, but I will have to wait till they go for cheaper on craigslist, because $499 is a little to much to spend right now. [and 16GB is just a little too small]
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I'd like to get opinions about the SAMOLED+ screen on the Samsung Galaxy S2 from people that hate Pentile screens (like me ).
Do you think SGS2 is a lot sharper than SAMOLED Pentile screens? Does the text looks as good as in a regular LCD or SLCD screens?
It's important that the opinion comes from people that really dislike or hate pentile screens because it seems that not everybody notice the effect caused by these.
Well, thats one to get a hundred percent viewpoint.
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Well, thats one to get a hundred percent viewpoint.
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I don't get you.
The thing is that SGS2 doesn't have pentile but given that is the same resolution on a bigger screen and I'm not even sure if the pixel matrix is identical to a LCD I think that maybe is not that better at the end?
I'm just trying to decide if I buy the phone or if I'm better keeping a Nexus S (with a pentile display I don't really like...) until Samsung deliver the higher resolution SAMOLED+
Enjoy...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/19/galaxy-s-ii-and-galaxy-s-screens-compared-at-the-subpixel-level/
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Enjoy...
engadget.com/2011/05/19/galaxy-s-ii-and-galaxy-s-screens-compared-at-the-subpixel-level/
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Thanks for the link! But I already know the technical differences...
I'm looking opinion from people that disliked the Galaxy S and Nexus S pentile screen specifically (or even Atrix screen for what it's worth)
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Thanks for the link! But I already know the technical differences...
I'm looking opinion from people that disliked the Galaxy S and Nexus S pentile screen specifically (or even Atrix screen for what it's worth)
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Let's reverse the question. Does anybody like the Pentile display? From everything I've read its really just a cost saver for the manufacturer. So I'm guessing the answer would be no. At least not given any another option.
The screen looks exactly as LCD ..
After going from a Pentile display to a SLCD (N1 to DHD), I was shocked at how a screen with the same effective resolution (WVGA) could look so much sharper even after the size being increased by 0.6 inches. I began to understand why Pentile was getting so much bad press in tech circles and reviews. At the time I associated Pentile with AMOLED, as the only AMOLED based phones (N1, Desire, SGS) used a Pentile matrix and due to this my opinion on AMOLED was that despite the brilliant contrast, it was inferior to LCD.
It's safe to say that the SAMOLED+ reversed my previous opinion by ridding itself of the Pentile matrix. It's almost as if it is an entirely new screen tech. There's not much else to say other than once you see it, you will struggle to believe you could ever go back to a LCD/IPS or plain old AMOLED. The clarity and colour produced by this screen is second to none, regardless of PPI.
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I voted yes!
I liked the Screen very much.. but my eyes hurt after a while reading.
Think mostly because of the ghosting / washed effect from scrolling text.
i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.
Comparing the SII and S is like night and day. Whenever I go back to use my S I can't believe how bad it is. You won't be disappointed with the SII trust me.
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i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.
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I agree, I was glad when I got my desire it turned out to be a slcd one because the ones I had seen in the shop (as well as the sgs1) were all amoleds and I wasn't to impressed with them, the fonts looked very ugly and jagged, a lot worse compared to my old lg arena; For my the DPI should have been a lot higher for better fonts but they are okay. I had to try a lot of browser though before I found which renders small text the best (xscope) so you can make a bit of use of the large screen
Thanks everybody for your input!
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i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.
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This is what I fear I love iPhone 4 display text crispness, I didn't like Atrix that much because everything looked like it had a weird texture.
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I agree, I was glad when I got my desire it turned out to be a slcd one because the ones I had seen in the shop (as well as the sgs1) were all amoleds and I wasn't to impressed with them, the fonts looked very ugly and jagged, a lot worse compared to my old lg arena; For my the DPI should have been a lot higher for better fonts but they are okay. I had to try a lot of browser though before I found which renders small text the best (xscope) so you can make a bit of use of the large screen
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Nice tip about the browser!
I had the Atrix and half the reason I sold it is because I couldn't stand the terrible screen. I dont even notice the loss of pixels with the S2 because things seem so much more crisp, like the edges on icons and a lot of other things.
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After going from a Pentile display to a SLCD (N1 to DHD), I was shocked at how a screen with the same effective resolution (WVGA) could look so much sharper even after the size being increased by 0.6 inches. I began to understand why Pentile was getting so much bad press in tech circles and reviews. At the time I associated Pentile with AMOLED, as the only AMOLED based phones (N1, Desire, SGS) used a Pentile matrix and due to this my opinion on AMOLED was that despite the brilliant contrast, it was inferior to LCD.
It's safe to say that the SAMOLED+ reversed my previous opinion by ridding itself of the Pentile matrix. It's almost as if it is an entirely new screen tech. There's not much else to say other than once you see it, you will struggle to believe you could ever go back to a LCD/IPS or plain old AMOLED. The clarity and colour produced by this screen is second to none, regardless of PPI.
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QFT. I also felt the text crispness of the S was quite lacking as against SLCD/LCD. But the SAMOLED+ of the S2 is really super. I cannot see any issues with text sharpness down to even small almost unreadable levels. I was sceptical about the 480x800 vs qhd of the sensation, and that too for a larger scree size, but was very happy when I switched on the phone for the first time. Text is pin sharp, colours absolutely brilliant. Cannot go back to SLCD.
In fact as another poster stated, sometimes the very high contrast is a slight pain actually. I wish there was a way to turn down the brightness even more for indoors / night use.
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In fact as another poster stated, sometimes the very high contrast is a slight pain actually. I wish there was a way to turn down the brightness even more for indoors / night use.
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You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
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sieudaochich said:
You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
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Thanks. Just what I was looking for. Will make my e-reading at night hugely easier.
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You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
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Cannot thank posts on Tapatalk yet so just want to say major thanks for bringing this app to my attention! As Sandeep says, for those of us who read Ebooks at night this is a life (eye) saver! No more nagging from the missus regarding my screen glare.
Back on topic, I've compared the screens of the Sensation and SGS2 first hand and in normal usage the increased resolution of the Sensation doesn't offer a discernible increase in sharpness over the SGS2. Those with eagle eyes will no doubt contest this, but in truth the overall clarity of the SGS2 panel is IMHO superior to that of the Sensation. That said, if a qHD AMOLED phone was released, I'd be all over it!
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Just been comparing my friends HTC Desire (pentile amoled) with my SGS2 side by side and my Samsung is noticeably more sharper even though my screen is bigger. Desire has fuzzy text and colours aren't as good.
I hate pentile displays. I had the original SGS1 and returned it within a week because of the screen, but didn't know about pentile displays back then.
I didn't really mind it on my SGS but once I got my Atrix I hated the screen, I don't care for high res as I can barely read as is, but the SGS II screen is amazing compared to the original SGS.
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It's actually SAMOLED+, there are different types of amoled screen that's been used in phones. SAMOLED+ is an upgrade from SAMOLED, by introducing a higher ppi and a normal rgb layout from their PenTile usage. SAMOLED is actually better in direct sunlight compared to lcd technology. The comparison your talking about of amoled vs slcd is an year old article, which dealt with the old amoled technology.
retina vs samoled+ is really about what's you use it for.. do you want color or better detail? that said unless you look very close you can't tell the difference between amoled samoled and samoled+ . if you're watching a movie or music video, it'll look better on samoled+ than retina, but if you're reading a story you may be better off with retina
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retina vs samoled+ is really about what's you use it for.. do you want color or better detail? that said unless you look very close you can't tell the difference between amoled samoled and samoled+ . if you're watching a movie or music video, it'll look better on samoled+ than retina, but if you're reading a story you may be better off with retina
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Except you'd be reading that story on a tiny 3.5" display. The larger screen size tends to make the SGS2 a better reading platform as well.
Retina display was pretty good last year, but now with the QHD phones, Super AMOLED plus and Super AMOLED HD?
And you own HTC devices and not an SGS2 yourself. I say you're mistaken
Coming from a guy who used to own an SGS1 where text was pretty pixelated and an iPhone 4 which was wonderful, I must say the Super AMOLED plus definitely blows it away.
The Super AMOLED HD coming for the Note and 7.7 will probably blow the iPhone 4 away as well. I wonder if Apple has made another amazing display for the iPhone 5 to watch
Currently a Galaxy Nexus user since June (Galaxy Note before that), and I'm wondering if there are any plus points for the Galaxy Nexus apart from the removable battery?
I think there are other threads like this in the Q&A might want to look there . I cant think of any other plus points for the GNex though.
Well you might have gotten used to the AMOLED displays. Nexus 4 IPS LCD display isn't pentile and slightly denser so it is technically better but can't match the true blacks of AMOLED.
Most reviews say it is. But don't upgrade for the sake of upgrading. If you are perfectly happy stay (you are still guaranteed one more OS update), but if you find yourself cursing the device, check out the N4.
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Well you might have gotten used to the AMOLED displays. Nexus 4 IPS LCD display isn't pentile and slightly denser so it is technically better but can't match the true blacks of AMOLED.
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From Techradar:
"When you're looking at icons on a black background (like in the app drawer), you can't even see the black, if that makes sense. It is so deep, that icons just float."
Win.
The pogo pin-based desktop and car docks are a big plus for the Galaxy Nexus, IMHO.
The GN is a piece of turd compared to the N4...sell it, it would net you around $150 on Gazzell, add the difference and get the new thing.
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Well you might have gotten used to the AMOLED displays. Nexus 4 IPS LCD display isn't pentile and slightly denser so it is technically better but can't match the true blacks of AMOLED.
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AMOLED isn't true black.
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Sold my gnex for 275 on craigslist. Cant wait for the nexus 4!
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Well you might have gotten used to the AMOLED displays. Nexus 4 IPS LCD display isn't pentile and slightly denser so it is technically better but can't match the true blacks of AMOLED.
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I've compared the AMOLED displays to IPS, the One X's to be precise, and IPS LCD looks sooo much better. The AMOLED displays make everything look slightly blue, so when I had anything white opened, it always looked blue.
Not gonna sell the GNex but will get a nexus 4 as soon as it's out.
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Yea the whites and blacks on the IPS display are just about unmatched. On my gnex even with custom kernels the display was still jacked up looking. Stock was like a puke yellow and a good kernel was like a light bluish white. Never could get it white and or black. The s3 color reproduction was a lot better. But the IPS display still kills it in natural looking colors and the closest color reproduction to real life colors. Everything just pops
Yes, it is an upgrade!
Mainly, the hardware: internals, screen, etc... but over all, the build quality. I'm never buying a Samsung phone again. That maybe a little rash, but, that is how I feel at the moment.
worth the upgrade for me.. i bought the gnex in june also, but just sold it for $300. I lost about $70 bucks for the upgrade, but im sure it'll be well worth it
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Sold my gnex for 275 on craigslist. Cant wait for the nexus 4!
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I'm giving my GNex to my sister as soon as I get my N4.
Finally getting her away from that iPhone. She's stoked by the way. :laugh:
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I'm giving my GNex to my sister as soon as I get my N4.
Finally getting her away from that iPhone. She's stoked by the way. :laugh:
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Nice! Get her away from that poison lol
Any information on the screen technology used on the S5?
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I think its still pentile.
I was just on Google searching for this without answer. I didn't watch the live event but I'm going to assume it's pentile, I've seen no reference of a "plus" following the display type sadly
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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You can't know what samsung have done inside 5.1 AMOLED FHD screen. I thing color will more accurate and brighter.
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I meant in terms of pixel count and total subpixel count.
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I saw errica,s mini review. She said it is still pentile.
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That's got to suck...
Samsung has been stuck on the 1080p pentile since S4.
I bet the Note 4 will also be pentile.
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Does it really matter? I see this PenTile thing as pure whining, you'll never notice it in a 1080p screen unless you put your device under a microscope to use it.
Yes it does matter. And I am not whining because the screen technology has not improved after three devices.
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Yes it does matter. And I am not whining because the screen technology has not improved after three devices.
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So apply for a job at Samsung and teach them how to do it.
Seriously, S3 -> S4 was 720p to 1080p jump.
S4 -> S5 was the "screen now is brighter and can be very dim" jump.
I think you are complaining just because you were fool enough to believe the rumours.
Interesting article comparing the two technologies here
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-has-a-pentile-display-what-is-it-and-why-should-you-care/
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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Of course it will have technological improvements. The Note 3 was also "just" 1080p pentile and DisplayMate called it one of the best screens ever they tested, 600nits of brightness in auto mode under sunlight, improved color accuracy and more efficient operation. You bet the S5 screen is further improved, as well as SW modes to choose the most colorful or most accurate for your liking... this phone is only a disappointment if you judge by the looks, so far it's very promising all around.
If you guys missed it during the launch, s5 has brightest led screen ever made by Samsung @500 nits. Pentile vs rgb argument is a total bull**** for phones with full hd screens
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If you guys missed it during the launch, s5 has brightest led screen ever made by Samsung @500 nits. Pentile vs rgb argument is a total bull**** for phones with full hd screens
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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from what i have heard from Francisco z2 is the best screen sony has come up with so far... if im not wrong its the lcd screens that loses color at max brighntess
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
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then we have to wait for actual results to know what samsung bragged about the screen during the launch
Its not pentile. Geex. I can't believe anybody has pointed out it is still diamond array RGBG. BIG improvement over pentile. Not going to lie though. Even though the RGBG looks fine and comparable to a standard RGB screen I wish it was at least like the galaxy note 2 or moto X screen. RBG with a bigger blue pixel. Looks awesome, can't tell it's not standard RGB stripe and it is efficient. I think the gnote2 and moto x so far have had the most efficient AMOLED screens so far.
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Its not pentile. Geex. I can't believe anybody has pointed out it is still diamond array RGBG. BIG improvement over pentile. Not going to lie though. Even though the RGBG looks fine and comparable to a standard RGB screen I wish it was at least like the galaxy note 2 or moto X screen. RBG with a bigger blue pixel. Looks awesome, can't tell it's not standard RGB stripe and it is efficient. I think the gnote2 and moto x so far have had the most efficient AMOLED screens so far.
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It's PenTile.
The diamond is the arrangement, but it is still PenTile (just as LED HDTVs are still LCD with the LED simply describing the backlight). As you said, it's RGBG (another combo used by Moto was RGBW). RGB is the preferred subpixel layout. But seriously, the layout could be stripe, diamond, or it could be in the shape of a penis for all anyone cares, RGBG is PenTile.
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
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So are you saying that the Note 3 is significantly brighter than N2?
I can barely see my phone under the Sun
Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
What do you guys think? I haven't held a moto x and S5 together but I absolutely love the S5 screen.
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If anything, the 2k screen will be less bright...
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Resolution has nothing to do with brightness or vibrancy
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Huh? You don't push light through pixels with amoled screens. Per pixel brightness is certainly not affected by resolution, perhaps only with LCD screens.
Nitemare3219 said:
It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Amoled displays don't have backlights, the display itself is the source of light.
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My mistake, completely forgot that part about AMOLED. Been using IPS screens since I had a Galaxy Nexus, and that screen was junk.. so I've been wanting to stick to IPS. My G3 is gorgeous, so I'm kinda scared to see the N6 with AMOLED.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
theoneofgod said:
Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Mura affects aren't really part of amoled. Oled screens it is like on my ps Vita
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RedBlueGreen said:
Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
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AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
Are you sure cause the S2 with Super AMOLED was significantly better than their regular AMOLED models like the GNEX.
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I've not used AMOLED since my Galaxy Nexus, but it was horrendous. Banding visible all over the screen on grey or beige (light colored) screens.
Plus, it had burn in on the status bar that I could always see on full screen youtube videos etc. Was terrible.
I'm wondering have they improved the hardware technology since then or can I expect that again on the Nexus 6,
Look forward to the reviews on here after launch. :laugh:
The OCD fanboys who buy the first wave will be busy detailing the issues. I used to be one of them. I'll wait till the second wave this time. haha :good::laugh:
gtalum said:
AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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gtalum said:
AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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jmm22 said:
Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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Imagine if they used non pentile
This is a quick pull from wiki explaining the difference between all amoled screens
Super AMOLED[edit]
Super AMOLED is Samsung's term for an AMOLED display with an integrated digitizer, meaning that the layer that detects touch is integrated into the screen, rather than overlaid on top of it. According to Samsung, Super AMOLED reflects one-fifth as much sunlight compared to the first generation AMOLED.[21][22] The display technology itself is not changed. Super AMOLED is part of the Pentile matrix family. It is sometimes abbreviated SAMOLED.
For the Samsung Galaxy S III, which reverted to Super AMOLED instead of the pixelation-free conventional RGB (non-PenTile) Super AMOLED Plus of its predecessor Samsung Galaxy S II, the S III's larger screen size encourages users to hold the phone further from their face to obscure the PenTile effect.[23]
Super AMOLED Advanced[edit]
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Super AMOLED Advanced is a term marketed by Motorola to describe a brighter display than Super AMOLED screens, but also a higher resolution – qHD or 960 × 540 for Super AMOLED Advanced compared to WVGA or 800 × 480 for Super AMOLED. It also is 25% more energy efficient. Super AMOLED Advanced features PenTile, which sharpens subpixels in between pixels to make a higher resolution display, but by doing this, some picture quality is lost.[24] This display equips the Motorola Droid RAZR.[25]
Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
The Samsung Galaxy S II, with a Super AMOLED Plus screen
Super AMOLED Plus, first introduced with the Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Droid Charge smartphones, is a branding from Samsung where the PenTile RGBG pixel matrix (2 subpixels) used in Super AMOLED displays has been replaced with a traditional RGB RGB (3 subpixels) arrangement typically used in LCD displays. This variant of AMOLED is brighter and therefore more energy efficient than Super AMOLED displays[26] and produces a sharper, less grainy image because of the increased number of subpixels. In comparison to AMOLED and Super AMOLED displays, the Super AMOLED Plus displays are even more energy efficient and brighter. However, Samsung cited screen life and costs by not using Plus on the Galaxy S II's successor, the Samsung Galaxy S III.[18]
HD Super AMOLED[edit]
Galaxy Note II subpixels representation, based on 400X image of the Note II display[27]
The Galaxy Nexus, with an HD Super AMOLED screen[28]
HD Super AMOLED is a branding from Samsung for an HD-resolution (>1280×720) Super AMOLED display. The first device to use it was the Samsung Galaxy Note. The Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S III both implement the HD Super AMOLED with a PenTile RGBG-matrix (2 subpixels/pixel), while the Galaxy Note II uses an RBG matrix (3 subpixels/pixel) but not in the standard 3 stripe arrangement.[27]
HD Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
A variant of the Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tizen OS 1 was benchmarked using a non-pentile HD Super AMOLED Plus screen in 2012.[29]
Full HD Super AMOLED[edit]
As featured on the Samsung Galaxy S4[30] and Samsung Galaxy Note 3. It has the broadest color gamut of any mobile display of up to 97% of the Adobe RGB color space, hence making it a wide-gamut display.[31][32]
Future[edit]
Future displays exhibited from 2011 to 2013 by Samsung have shown flexible, 3D, unbreakable, transparent Super AMOLED Plus displays using very high resolutions and in varying sizes for phones. These unreleased prototypes use a polymer as a substrate removing the need for glass cover, a metal backing, and touch matrix, combining them into one integrated layer.[33]
So far, Samsung plans on branding the newer displays as Youm.[34]
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OMFG are people here really this clueless? Samsung calls ALL their AMOLED panels Super AMOLED. That includes the ones they sell to Motorola and Nokia. They are ALL made by Samsung. The reason why the Moto X 2014 doesn't look as good as the Galaxy S5 is because Samsung ALWAYS sells the last generation to their competitors and saves the latest generation for themselves. In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4, not the S5. And for those dumb people who keep on saying higher resolution means lower brightness, this is only true for LCD since they use a backlight and it has to shine through each pixel, with more pixels decreasing the brightness overall. AMOLED is completely different in that each pixel is its own light source and when you pack them together, they will be brighter not dimmer, just like how your vanity mirror in your restroom will be brighter with three small 600 lumen bulbs near each other versus just one 900 lumen bulb.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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For me both suck... cause of degradation of the organic led.. colors become toned... and burn in issue.. they are simply inadequate.. expecially at that price...
From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
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Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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screen burn isn't a thing of the past.. beacause the technology il still the same.. organic led degradate with use.. losing brightness and uncalibrating all screen colors (this with homogeneous wear) but some elements like status bar icons and navbar buttons are always in the same position!! And they will burn in inevitably
Pilz said:
From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
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nexus 4 & 5
In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4
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There is a slight difference between the moto X 2014 and S4 screens.
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Super AMOLED is a version of AMOLED display technology that integrates a capacitive touchscreen layer directly into the display instead of overlaying it on top of the display, as has traditionally been done. This results in a thinner design that uses less power and reflects less light, and as a result works better outdoors.
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