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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ISAI6qbQm6U
Obviously this is a beta version of the upcoming samsung official ICS release for S2, it looks like a total catastrophe with TouchWiz..it looks NOTHING like beautiful Nexus Interface.
If it will look anything remotly similiar on the GNOTE it would be catastrophic..
Yeah agree. If the final looks like this i'm gonna flash vanilla ICS.. Well, i'll probably flash that either way.
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yes this is total dissapointment, all people expect a total new UI, and what we get is something that looks identlical to the interface we have right now... it does not look like ICS at all... looks more like gingerbread... what are Samsung thinking drop the TouchWiz crap, TouchWiz has played out it's roll... it feels like windows 7 but with the xp GUI...
We should send a protest list or something to samsung cause this looks like a total nightmare...all people expect the brilliance of the Nexus GUI.. but this looks even worse then I could imagine.
Long live cm9!!
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I wouldn't mind vanilla ICS, but there'd better be a way to turn off the on-screen soft keys on phones that have hardware ones. Also, I can't stand having to reach all the way to the top of the phone for anything but notifications. The menu button at the bottom better continue to work the same.
The vanilla runs well on the fassy. Same stuff new version.
Ics 4.0.1 by jt1134
maxh said:
I wouldn't mind vanilla ICS, but there'd better be a way to turn off the on-screen soft keys on phones that have hardware ones. Also, I can't stand having to reach all the way to the top of the phone for anything but notifications. The menu button at the bottom better continue to work the same.
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If you use adw ex u can put notificationbar on gestures, so u can drag it down from anywhere on the screen
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I hate touchiz. I'm an aosp lover
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I think the phone will look odd with ICS anyway. You will have two rows of redundant keys, even though one may be not working.
randypurcz said:
I think the phone will look odd with ICS anyway. You will have two rows of redundant keys, even though one may be not working.
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lol.....You can disable software keys in ICS
LordManhattan said:
Yeah agree. If the final looks like this i'm gonna flash vanilla ICS.. Well, i'll probably flash that either way.
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To some one who have not used android before, can you explain to me what you mean with Vanilla ICS ????
You mean it will be possible to root with the standard ICS interface ?
Will the performance be as good as the official or will be lagging and buggs etc ?
Anyway, why it look so similar to todays gingerbread is maybe cause samsung are doing an half-hearted upgrade..
they have promised us ICS.. but they only seem to put small amount of energy to make a big update...
the interface looks identical etc.. Why I wanted ICS was cause it is basically a totally new OS...compared to gingerbread.
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To some one who have not used android before, can you explain to me what you mean with Vanilla ICS ????
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Stock Android. The way Google had intended it to look, feel, and perform.
This is unbelievably disappointing. I'm still glad I have my S2, because of the ASOP rom currently under development. I'll most definitely switch between phones whenever I want and just store any content that matters on an SD card, so my phone is virtually hot-swappable between devices.
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Stock Android. The way Google had intended it to look, feel, and perform.
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Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?
blackstar84 said:
Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?
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It depends on developer support. If the devs for CM9 can port it to the Note, than only then can we expect a (hopefully) fully functional ICS rom on the Note.
As it stands, Google only releases official vanilla roms to their Nexus line of phones, and they release the source for other manufacturers/devs to port to other phones.
I hope that answers your question mate, the way it was worded was a bit difficult to fully understand.
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Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?
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Well official as in with 'nothing' on it, no carrier or vendor tweaks/applications added and in this case, things like Touchwiz.
Also ICS was launched with Galaxy Nexus not Galaxy Note, but regardless I would presume that Samsung or another developer on XDA or any other forum will create a port to the Galaxy Note.
Vanilla just means that it doesn't have the other unnecessary stuff loaded e.g. Touchwiz. Vanilla is always compiled directly from AOSP source.
Why is everyone so angry about samsung including touchwiz into the ICS rom (I assume that's what this discussion is about?). Isn't the best thing about android the incredible ease of installing another launcher? Shouldn't the stock launcher just be a .apk away?
PickleHead said:
Why is everyone so angry about samsung including touchwiz into the ICS rom (I assume that's what this discussion is about?). Isn't the best thing about android the incredible ease of installing another launcher? Shouldn't the stock launcher just be a .apk away?
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Well it's true what you said, but Samsung will skin almost everything.
The phone, browser, music player....all of them will be skinned with TW & I guess people in this thread (me include) prefer the stock ICS look and feel.
atm i looks not really nice, but! it is an internal beta, maybe even a alpha version, nobody knows if samsungs is just trying and looking if touchwiz is working under ics, i'm sure that they will make some more cosmetics for ics.
Dunno but no on saw the video? Didn't you something wrong or better few things that where not as expected on it? First the phone had a yellow triangle meaning Samsung had a problem flashing a non stock Rom on the phone. Second on the *#1234# if you not 100% eye sight old man here the csc is unknown.......... . Third the keys back and menu keys aren't functionally at all, only if they had the drivers for them to implant on csc so they could work. Fourth the browser not sure was on xda forums when he started? Or did I see wrong or now I know they where looking xda forum for a working csc file to make the buttons work.
And about touchwiz give me ics on note even with a touch I don't care, so someday the devs can make a custom Rom, on our needs. But they need to have something to play with and take some codes/ideas from the custom files.
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Wow.. that is disappointing... i thought i could just flash back the stock rom when ICS is out. Now looks like I'm going to stay rooted for good.
Hi friends......
I wanna know what special feature is available on cyanogenmod that don't have in ours custom roms?? And why everyone just want a CM port on their phone??? What's the benifit of it?
Can anyone explain????:beer:
im curious too
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Anyone don't know??? Then why everyone's interested in CM???
CyanogenMod (pronounced sigh-AN-oh-jen-mod), is a customized, aftermarket firmware distribution for several Android devices. Based on the Android Open Source Project, CyanogenMod is designed to increase performance and reliability over Android-based ROMs released by vendors and carriers such as Google, T-Mobile, HTC, etc. CyanogenMod also offers a variety of features & enhancements that are not currently found in these versions of Android.
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The "varities of features" are not ordinary ones, and when you use a CM integrated phone, you'll understand better. So, there are many, many benefits. In short, cyanogen mod is like a trip to heaven for our phone.
well it depends in what version of cm but 4 me cm7 is enough... cm7 is
1 android 2.3.7 while our stock and custom rom is 2.3.6
2 it has crt effect when turning off the screen and when you enable rotation on the screen rotates like galaxy s3 or like apples iphone
3. The lockscreen we have ported is just basic compared to lockacreen of cm7, it has more features and more customizablility
4 custom themes are readily available, even OTA i thinkcant exactly remember
5 theres a lot of stuff you can tweak in the system without ever needing 3rd party apps like setcpu, nofrills and the like
These are just the top 5 things i want from cm7
And i know all this cause i used cm7 galaxy S for a day
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dude,
there is no need to explain,
borrow someone else's phone with CM7,
and you'll see the beauty of CM and what we're missing out
Well Thanks ... now waiting for CM..... anyone know about the progress of cm for our phone?
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dude,
there is no need to explain,
borrow someone else's phone with CM7,
and you'll see the beauty of CM and what we're missing out
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Just wanted to give him an idea what cm has that our stock or custom roms dont have
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Just wanted to give him an idea what cm has that our stock or custom roms dont have
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sorry if i offended you,
i wasnt quoting anyone,
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sorry if i offended you,
i wasnt quoting anyone,
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No hard feelings and no problem bro
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CM is good
As compared to other custom Roms CM is best you can also compare it with any of the custom roms and ICS or Jelly bean mostly not possible to port in low end devices but the CM is platform that provides these versions of ported roms to low end devices.
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As compared to other custom Roms CM is best you can also compare it with any of the custom roms and ICS or Jelly bean mostly not possible to port in low end devices but the CM is platform that provides these versions of ported roms to low end devices.
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wrong,
some low-end devices has CM7,9,10
like galaxy mini, galaxy 5, galaxy ace, and some others i forgot
tanjotsingh said:
As compared to other custom Roms CM is best you can also compare it with any of the custom roms and ICS or Jelly bean mostly not possible to port in low end devices but the CM is platform that provides these versions of ported roms to low end devices.
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But the sad truth is our device isnt really that low end we just cant make use of the full potential of our hardware due to lack of source code to make full use of the phones hardware capabilities
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Hi i was wondering if anyone has ported the launcher from the note 2 or s3 to our phone?
currently no, lack of interest also, because all samsungs features is in the touchwiz framework, just like htc sense
what are you missing from touchwiz?
Why would we need touchwiz it's beyond awful
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mediavieja said:
Hi i was wondering if anyone has ported the launcher from the note 2 or s3 to our phone?
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If you want it that bad, you can use Nova/apex launchers with the touchwiz theme.
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adil_ said:
If you want it that bad, you can use Nova/apex launchers with the touchwiz theme.
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I think that he's more interested on the multiwindow ...
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I think that he's more interested on the multiwindow ...
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Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.
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Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.
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+1 for multi-window.
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Yeah well multiwindows for once and also the interface, i didnt know that feature from nova launcher to use a touchwiz theme. ill try it today
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101204
Here you go.. No multi window unfortunately
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multiwindow
you can use floating browser from google play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gpc.myweb.hinet.net.PopupWeb&feature=also_installed
and for video multiwindow https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gpc.myweb.hinet.net.PopupVideo&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiZ3BjLm15d2ViLmhpbmV0Lm5ldC5Qb3B1cFZpZGVvIl0.
hope this helped im planning to get a nexus 4 but idk maybe you can anwser me this id the onscreen button take up screen size from the 4.7 or not ?:good::good::good:
I'd LOVE the smartalarm from touchwiz
Everything else was kinda crap
okay why does it matter why he wants to have the touchwiz launcher? You guys are seriously going to question why he wants it like its any of your buisness, he likes touchwiz, its his choice of liking a different os. Its really stupid for you guys to question and put him down with negativity in comments instead of finding a link and if you dont like it? KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELVES. Thanks to those who provided the link.
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okay why does it matter why he wants to have the touchwiz launcher? You guys are seriously going to question why he wants it like its any of your buisness, he likes touchwiz, its his choice of liking a different os. Its really stupid for you guys to question and put him down with negativity in comments instead of finding a link and if you dont like it? KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELVES. Thanks to those who provided the link.
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I was just Googling some touchwiz launcher stuff for N4 and came to this thread.
Your comment is something that I have always wondered here at XDA. If you are in a particular device's forum, it means you are married to that phone and shall not praise/desire features and stuff which other phones have. It isn't like ditching your current device, XDA is all about development, so if someone seeks features from other phones, I think people should help (if you can) rather than criticizing. And when it comes to likings, everyone has his own preferences... who r we really to judge WHY he is liking this.. Why NOT he likes that.. etc etc. I know a lot of people do not like TW but many do. I ask the TW haters, if you don't like TW then what are you doing in this thread? Why replying? Why bother sneaking in? Just mind your own bloody damn business.
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Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.
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If you start making your own distributions of Android behaving in such fundamentally different ways, I suspect we are going to need to start doing things to prevent you from impacting our app ecosystem. I'm not sure what, but I could imagine things such as restricting how users can interact with Market apps on these devices (not allowing reviews or such).
We have let a lot of things in this area slide -- for example to be allowed to include Market on your device you are supposed to fully pass CTS. However, if you start really diverging from the core Android platform (I would argue this takes you well into the realm of a fork rather than a customization) then some deep issues are going to come up about how we handle these custom builds.
We have been putting a lot of thought and work for a number of years into how to let Android applications run on increasingly diverse and dynamic screens. Doing this correctly, without impacting our app developers in a negative way, is a really challenging problem. I also think it is something that needs to be done at the mainline platform level, not as a customization, because doing it right is going to require new well defined interfaces with applications for them to interact with it, possibly starting with just a facility they need to use to opt in to it.
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googles (dianne hackborns) response when cyanogenmod was about to merge a multiwindow feature (cornerstone).
if its a smaller cm-fork or rom, cornerstone is open source waiting to be cherry-picked - although discontinued and buggy from what i hear.
can't imagine google is very happy about samsung doing it, but they might be too powerful a foe to upset.
another small observation, dianne herself introduced something like per app dpi to jellybean which seems related, still dormant. we might see it one day implemented as a real feature.
Hello there everyone,
Does anyone know about a mod or rom that allows nexus 4 users to have multiple windows on the same screen like you can do with the Galaxy note 2 and galaxy S3. I felt like this was a really cool feature in the Galaxy S3. I remember Cyanogenmod trying to add it with cornerstone. However they literally got google mad with it. However now that Samsung is doing these things they don't seem to complain anymore, so I guess that it wouldn't be a problem if someone did it nowadays.
I've been googling and looking at XDA for a few hours now but I can't seem to find any.
Do you guys know of any ROMS / MODS that can do this sort of thing?
Also is there a Galaxy S3 port for the Nexus 4 (So that you can run gs3 rom on nexus 4?)
Thanks
Multiwindow feature is only available for 5-6 apps that come with phone and not to all apps.
To add this feature touchwiz framework needs to be ported and apps need to be modified to support it. Touchwiz is closed source which makes the job difficult.
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However it seems Cyanogenmod was indeed succesfull in doing this a pretty long time ago with cornerstone.
I wasn't aware Touchwiz was closed source, so that's a pretty dead end there.
Maybe Cornerstone could be ripped from an old version of Cyanogenmod that still supported it?
Here is a video of cornerstone running last year. It worked for all apps I think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fQU4mAXmas
atulalvenkar said:
Multiwindow feature is only available for 5-6 apps that come with phone and not to all apps.
To add this feature touchwiz framework needs to be ported and apps need to be modified to support it. Touchwiz is closed source which makes the job difficult.
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Actually it is incredibly easy to hack the Samsung framework to allow it to work on all apps.
But you are right, we would need to port that framework to the nexus, which is never going to happen.
Google rejected chances to incorporate multi-window into stock android, don't expect to see the feature any time soon.
Lennyuk said:
Actually it is incredibly easy to hack the Samsung framework to allow it to work on all apps.
But you are right, we would need to port that framework to the nexus, which is never going to happen.
Google rejected chances to incorporate multi-window into stock android, don't expect to see the feature any time soon.
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However it could be ported from an old version of Cyanogenmod no? (One that has cornerstone)
Hi,
With a little search:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021174&highlight=multiview
I do not believe that there was ever a version of CM released that had cornerstone, just private test builds.
Touchwiz for nexus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101204&highlight=touchwiz
I think there are various apps on the market that allow multi windows too.
meangreenie said:
Touchwiz for nexus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101204&highlight=touchwiz
I think there are various apps on the market that allow multi windows too.
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That's just the Touchwiz Launcher and sounds...
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This would be very cool for the Nexus 4.
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This isn't really a question, a little more like a long rant. So I see here and other sections where people are asking when cm10.1, AOKP, and similar roms will come out for the s4. Why would you want to do this to your phone? If you want cm10.1 you mine as well get a nexus phone because what it's made for. I could you switching from touchwiz 4.0 to 4.2 cm10.1. But switching from 4.2 touchwiz to 4.2 cm10.1 is stopping your phone from being at it's full potential. My question to you is why? Why do you want to downgrade your s4?
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Because we can or want? Because we dont like TW or want vanilla with a good cam? Do we really need a reason?
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Never used touch wiz but from seeing people's phones messing with them for a bit it seeks like crap
With that said I got the s4 because it will have much better battery life that my Nexus 4 and I'll be able to replace battery when it depletes which Ai need for work
I'll stick with stock until a new Android version arrives. I'll flash the new CM until Samsung stock updates. I'll go back to stock until there is a new Android version. And so on....
Similar to above, my strategy is just to roll with stock for a year, and if I haven't upgraded to another phone and plan to keep using my GS4, but updates are coming slow, then I'll use CM. That's really all I care for, since the S4 is pretty fast even with TW, and battery is easily accommodated.
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This isn't really a question, a little more like a long rant. So I see here and other sections where people are asking when cm10.1, AOKP, and similar roms will come out for the s4. Why would you want to do this to your phone? If you want cm10.1 you mine as well get a nexus phone because what it's made for. I could you switching from touchwiz 4.0 to 4.2 cm10.1. But switching from 4.2 touchwiz to 4.2 cm10.1 is stopping your phone from being at it's full potential. My question to you is why? Why do you want to downgrade your s4?
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I would call it a upgrade, not a downgrade. CM will give more smooth experience, better battery life, alot faster updates, better aosp browser, better messaging and contact app, better costomization, more space left for the phone (not "only 9gb left" like touchwiz), better ram optimization, better overall user experience.
And ye, I dont care about all the bloatware and gimmicks Samsung give us. It slow down the phone and you'll only get frustrated.
Btw thanks to all the beloved CM developers who using their sparetime for giving us choices.
Originally I wasn't planning to use any custom roms on my S4, but hearing about the lack of smoothness is tempting me to. A fast and lag-free UI is important to me, so flashing a rom that provides that would not be a "downgrade" for me. Besides, I'm mostly indifferent to touchwiz features except for possibly multi-window, and it'd be nice to get rid of both Samsung and carrier bloatware. What's it to you though?
for me, first and foremost the smaller memory print on my sd card. 9 GBYTE out of 16 is ridiculous.
if it doesn't support a 64 bit Filesystem for my sd card, I won't install it.
Samsung ROMs on my S3 never let me down. Plus a lot of extra features. Compared with my Nexus 7 which is running almost perfect on a AOSP Rom.
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The "9gb issue" is easily fixable, like most providers they want to add extra apps (bloatware) that you don't need (unless you desire), all you have to do is get rid of the things you dont want or need. That will give you a ton of space.
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If Samsung will start a childish cat and mouse game like Apple, were you need a exploit to root it, I will install CM for sure!
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The "9gb issue" is easily fixable, like most providers they want to add extra apps (bloatware) that you don't need (unless you desire), all you have to do is get rid of the things you dont want or need. That will give you a ton of space.
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Most bloatware apps can only be disabled, not uninstalled. And I'm puzzled why you have an issue with what people install on their own phones. Isn't it possible that many people like the Galaxy S4's hardware but not its software?
Of course you will be able to get rid of the bloatware...just root it, and install titanium backup...off ya go...
Space, quicker updates, more aesthetically pleasing to me UI.
jj03 said:
Of course you will be able to get rid of the bloatware...just root it, and install titanium backup...off ya go...
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I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.
Come on now Ariana
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I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.
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Forgive me...i have just finished a long nightshift...
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I want CM. I also want all the Samsung bloatware with no compromise.
Is that possible?
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I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.
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I'm all for rooting, just not for people downgrading there phone by installing cm.
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I'm all for rooting, just not for people downgrading there phone by installing cm.
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Just read my post earlier and you will understand why people want CM, and stop talking about downgrade to CM. If CM is not for you, so dont install it. This thread is meaningless and you are officially a troll.