This isn't really a question, a little more like a long rant. So I see here and other sections where people are asking when cm10.1, AOKP, and similar roms will come out for the s4. Why would you want to do this to your phone? If you want cm10.1 you mine as well get a nexus phone because what it's made for. I could you switching from touchwiz 4.0 to 4.2 cm10.1. But switching from 4.2 touchwiz to 4.2 cm10.1 is stopping your phone from being at it's full potential. My question to you is why? Why do you want to downgrade your s4?
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Because we can or want? Because we dont like TW or want vanilla with a good cam? Do we really need a reason?
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Never used touch wiz but from seeing people's phones messing with them for a bit it seeks like crap
With that said I got the s4 because it will have much better battery life that my Nexus 4 and I'll be able to replace battery when it depletes which Ai need for work
I'll stick with stock until a new Android version arrives. I'll flash the new CM until Samsung stock updates. I'll go back to stock until there is a new Android version. And so on....
Similar to above, my strategy is just to roll with stock for a year, and if I haven't upgraded to another phone and plan to keep using my GS4, but updates are coming slow, then I'll use CM. That's really all I care for, since the S4 is pretty fast even with TW, and battery is easily accommodated.
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This isn't really a question, a little more like a long rant. So I see here and other sections where people are asking when cm10.1, AOKP, and similar roms will come out for the s4. Why would you want to do this to your phone? If you want cm10.1 you mine as well get a nexus phone because what it's made for. I could you switching from touchwiz 4.0 to 4.2 cm10.1. But switching from 4.2 touchwiz to 4.2 cm10.1 is stopping your phone from being at it's full potential. My question to you is why? Why do you want to downgrade your s4?
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I would call it a upgrade, not a downgrade. CM will give more smooth experience, better battery life, alot faster updates, better aosp browser, better messaging and contact app, better costomization, more space left for the phone (not "only 9gb left" like touchwiz), better ram optimization, better overall user experience.
And ye, I dont care about all the bloatware and gimmicks Samsung give us. It slow down the phone and you'll only get frustrated.
Btw thanks to all the beloved CM developers who using their sparetime for giving us choices.
Originally I wasn't planning to use any custom roms on my S4, but hearing about the lack of smoothness is tempting me to. A fast and lag-free UI is important to me, so flashing a rom that provides that would not be a "downgrade" for me. Besides, I'm mostly indifferent to touchwiz features except for possibly multi-window, and it'd be nice to get rid of both Samsung and carrier bloatware. What's it to you though?
for me, first and foremost the smaller memory print on my sd card. 9 GBYTE out of 16 is ridiculous.
if it doesn't support a 64 bit Filesystem for my sd card, I won't install it.
Samsung ROMs on my S3 never let me down. Plus a lot of extra features. Compared with my Nexus 7 which is running almost perfect on a AOSP Rom.
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The "9gb issue" is easily fixable, like most providers they want to add extra apps (bloatware) that you don't need (unless you desire), all you have to do is get rid of the things you dont want or need. That will give you a ton of space.
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for future reference this can be posted in Q&A section
If Samsung will start a childish cat and mouse game like Apple, were you need a exploit to root it, I will install CM for sure!
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The "9gb issue" is easily fixable, like most providers they want to add extra apps (bloatware) that you don't need (unless you desire), all you have to do is get rid of the things you dont want or need. That will give you a ton of space.
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Most bloatware apps can only be disabled, not uninstalled. And I'm puzzled why you have an issue with what people install on their own phones. Isn't it possible that many people like the Galaxy S4's hardware but not its software?
Of course you will be able to get rid of the bloatware...just root it, and install titanium backup...off ya go...
Space, quicker updates, more aesthetically pleasing to me UI.
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Of course you will be able to get rid of the bloatware...just root it, and install titanium backup...off ya go...
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I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.
Come on now Ariana
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I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.
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Forgive me...i have just finished a long nightshift...
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I want CM. I also want all the Samsung bloatware with no compromise.
Is that possible?
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I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.
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I'm all for rooting, just not for people downgrading there phone by installing cm.
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I'm all for rooting, just not for people downgrading there phone by installing cm.
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Just read my post earlier and you will understand why people want CM, and stop talking about downgrade to CM. If CM is not for you, so dont install it. This thread is meaningless and you are officially a troll.
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Hi i was wondering if anyone has ported the launcher from the note 2 or s3 to our phone?
currently no, lack of interest also, because all samsungs features is in the touchwiz framework, just like htc sense
what are you missing from touchwiz?
Why would we need touchwiz it's beyond awful
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mediavieja said:
Hi i was wondering if anyone has ported the launcher from the note 2 or s3 to our phone?
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If you want it that bad, you can use Nova/apex launchers with the touchwiz theme.
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If you want it that bad, you can use Nova/apex launchers with the touchwiz theme.
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I think that he's more interested on the multiwindow ...
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I think that he's more interested on the multiwindow ...
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Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.
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Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.
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+1 for multi-window.
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Yeah well multiwindows for once and also the interface, i didnt know that feature from nova launcher to use a touchwiz theme. ill try it today
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101204
Here you go.. No multi window unfortunately
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multiwindow
you can use floating browser from google play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gpc.myweb.hinet.net.PopupWeb&feature=also_installed
and for video multiwindow https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gpc.myweb.hinet.net.PopupVideo&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiZ3BjLm15d2ViLmhpbmV0Lm5ldC5Qb3B1cFZpZGVvIl0.
hope this helped im planning to get a nexus 4 but idk maybe you can anwser me this id the onscreen button take up screen size from the 4.7 or not ?:good::good::good:
I'd LOVE the smartalarm from touchwiz
Everything else was kinda crap
okay why does it matter why he wants to have the touchwiz launcher? You guys are seriously going to question why he wants it like its any of your buisness, he likes touchwiz, its his choice of liking a different os. Its really stupid for you guys to question and put him down with negativity in comments instead of finding a link and if you dont like it? KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELVES. Thanks to those who provided the link.
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okay why does it matter why he wants to have the touchwiz launcher? You guys are seriously going to question why he wants it like its any of your buisness, he likes touchwiz, its his choice of liking a different os. Its really stupid for you guys to question and put him down with negativity in comments instead of finding a link and if you dont like it? KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELVES. Thanks to those who provided the link.
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I was just Googling some touchwiz launcher stuff for N4 and came to this thread.
Your comment is something that I have always wondered here at XDA. If you are in a particular device's forum, it means you are married to that phone and shall not praise/desire features and stuff which other phones have. It isn't like ditching your current device, XDA is all about development, so if someone seeks features from other phones, I think people should help (if you can) rather than criticizing. And when it comes to likings, everyone has his own preferences... who r we really to judge WHY he is liking this.. Why NOT he likes that.. etc etc. I know a lot of people do not like TW but many do. I ask the TW haters, if you don't like TW then what are you doing in this thread? Why replying? Why bother sneaking in? Just mind your own bloody damn business.
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Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.
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If you start making your own distributions of Android behaving in such fundamentally different ways, I suspect we are going to need to start doing things to prevent you from impacting our app ecosystem. I'm not sure what, but I could imagine things such as restricting how users can interact with Market apps on these devices (not allowing reviews or such).
We have let a lot of things in this area slide -- for example to be allowed to include Market on your device you are supposed to fully pass CTS. However, if you start really diverging from the core Android platform (I would argue this takes you well into the realm of a fork rather than a customization) then some deep issues are going to come up about how we handle these custom builds.
We have been putting a lot of thought and work for a number of years into how to let Android applications run on increasingly diverse and dynamic screens. Doing this correctly, without impacting our app developers in a negative way, is a really challenging problem. I also think it is something that needs to be done at the mainline platform level, not as a customization, because doing it right is going to require new well defined interfaces with applications for them to interact with it, possibly starting with just a facility they need to use to opt in to it.
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googles (dianne hackborns) response when cyanogenmod was about to merge a multiwindow feature (cornerstone).
if its a smaller cm-fork or rom, cornerstone is open source waiting to be cherry-picked - although discontinued and buggy from what i hear.
can't imagine google is very happy about samsung doing it, but they might be too powerful a foe to upset.
another small observation, dianne herself introduced something like per app dpi to jellybean which seems related, still dormant. we might see it one day implemented as a real feature.
Hi everyone,
I just switched from an iPhone 4 to an S4 and so far the experience has been great, however, I wanted to know if there's a way to run 'Pure Android' on it.
From what I THINK I know, Samsung's version of android has a bunch of pre-installed crap. Call me crazy but this bothers me, I just want a clean OS, and that's something I liked about iOS. I don't know if it has any other limitations, I haven't gotten that far into it yet, except from the home dock being locked.
Anyway, I'm a complete Android noob, but I can follow clear instructions.
Is it even possible to do what I'm after? Is there a clean, safe and fast way of doing it for somebody like me that doesn't know much about these things?
Also, I don't have access to a PC as I am a mac user.
mkaiin said:
Hi everyone,
I just switched from an iPhone 4 to an S4 and so far the experience has been great, however, I wanted to know if there's a way to run 'Pure Android' on it.
From what I THINK I know, Samsung's version of android has a bunch of pre-installed crap. Call me crazy but this bothers me, I just want a clean OS, and that's something I liked about iOS. I don't know if it has any other limitations, I haven't gotten that far into it yet, except from the home dock being locked.
Anyway, I'm a complete Android noob, but I can follow clear instructions.
Is it even possible to do what I'm after? Is there a clean, safe and fast way of doing it for somebody like me that doesn't know much about these things?
Also, I don't have access to a PC as I am a mac user.
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simply wait Galaxy S4 google edition is on the market...
Masami1975 said:
simply wait Galaxy S4 google edition is on the market...
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If you can't wait for the Galaxy S4 Google Edition , why don't you just buy LG Google Nexus 4 instead of Galaxy S4 before that ?
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mkaiin said:
Hi everyone,
I just switched from an iPhone 4 to an S4 and so far the experience has been great, however, I wanted to know if there's a way to run 'Pure Android' on it.
From what I THINK I know, Samsung's version of android has a bunch of pre-installed crap. Call me crazy but this bothers me, I just want a clean OS, and that's something I liked about iOS. I don't know if it has any other limitations, I haven't gotten that far into it yet, except from the home dock being locked.
Anyway, I'm a complete Android noob, but I can follow clear instructions.
Is it even possible to do what I'm after? Is there a clean, safe and fast way of doing it for somebody like me that doesn't know much about these things?
Also, I don't have access to a PC as I am a mac user.
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The S4 is still pretty new so development is still picking up, but AOSP roms are supposed to give you that pure android experience. Cyanogenmod (CM), AOKP and others add some great tweaks and settings for further customizations. You can check the Original Android Development for Cyanogenmod and AOKP, but I would suggest you wait a while as things are still being improved. They should get more stable soon and have clean and clear installation methods.
Android differs from iOS in that you get a lot of customization options. Different people have different choices and android can be adapted for anyone. Some like the pure android experience and go for either a Nexus phone, which is pure android, or install an AOSP rom on their non-nexus phone.
Some people like Samsung's Touchwiz while others do not. Other roms add even further customizations, etc. Welcome to android..!
Hi all,
I once more turn to XDA gurus for some advice and also questions. Let me start with saying that I have very basic experience with android phones: my main phone is an iPhone but I love to play with Android devices to fill in the iOS blanks. I own a Samsung Infuse (with a custom ROM but very unstable) and briefly had an HTC One but returned it.
Anyway, I bought an AT&T S4; it's unlocked and works great. However I'm in Canada on Rogers and couldn't care less about the bloatware installed on it. Here come the questions:
- Does anyone know of a way to install the stock Rogers ROM on this phone (more like where to get it)?
- Alternately, would you recommend to install another ROM?
Here's the thing: a week after I bought mine, Google announced the Google editions; would have known I would have waited to get that.
- Would it be recommendable to flash the Google ROM on my phone?
- Would there be a way to install some of the Samsung SPKs on such a ROM (I could never seem to do it on my Infuse)?
I know how to flash a ROM, and it's well documented in the Forums. I'm more after opinions; my experience with flashing ROMs on my Infuse has been spotty at best. Seems like no matter what I did, the phone would become unusably unstable after a while. This scares me because it seems like the Infuse is one of the most modded phones out there... The S4 is very impressive and I don't want to hinder it's performance in any way.
If none of this is doable/recommendable, then I might sell this one and pay the extra $100 and get the Google edition.
I appreciate any input!
Thanks
Well, I know it's not polite to bump your own post, but I would really appreciate some feedback.
And actually I'll add a bit more to it: let's say I either try the Google ROM or decide to buy a Google Edition, there are some pretty cool apps included with the Samsung version (such as multi window and air gestures). Is it possible to have those available on the Google Edition/ROM?
Thanks and sorry again for my lack of knowledge in the area...
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Well, I know it's not polite to bump your own post, but I would really appreciate some feedback.
And actually I'll add a bit more to it: let's say I either try the Google ROM or decide to buy a Google Edition, there are some pretty cool apps included with the Samsung version (such as multi window and air gestures). Is it possible to have those available on the Google Edition/ROM?
Thanks and sorry again for my lack of knowledge in the area...
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Consensus with the GE ROMs for the S4 are that they're WAY too stripped down in comparison to other AOSP options (of which GE is NOT, it's actually TW disguised as AOSP). I, personally, would avoid using GE and instead opt for something like AOKP if you want that same feel. I just flashed FoxHound and really like the hybrid aspect of it in the fact that you keep all the gimmicky TW features (the hover and voice stuff as well as multi-window), the menu structures are similar, but it brings all the bonuses that having an AOSP ROM does. There are some extra steps involved which @Axman has taken his time to explain (you have to manually input your APN), but the end result is worth it.
Good luck and read around.
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well spoken my friend. Thanks
Thank you very much for the clarification. I was actually in the process of reading Axman's posts. To be honest I'm totally overwhelmed. I didn't imagine it to be so complicated; I'm really torn between ROM and keeping stock because of the TW cool stuff... I will keep reading around as all good n00b should.
Thanks!
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Thank you very much for the clarification. I was actually in the process of reading Axman's posts. To be honest I'm totally overwhelmed. I didn't imagine it to be so complicated; I'm really torn between ROM and keeping stock because of the TW cool stuff... I will keep reading around as all good n00b should.
Thanks!
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It's much less complicated than it seems, but you do need to follow the steps as outlined or you could end up with anything from a borked flash to a bricked phone depending on what you're trying to do. I recommend playing with a i337m ROM that is TW-based for your first, just to get the hang of things as it'll provide the least steep learning curve. Go for these steps at first:
1. Enable Developer Options (go to Settings/About/tap on build until it says they're enabled)
2. Run one click root/recovery from Adam Outler
3. Transfer and flash ROM of your choice
Just know that people flash for different reasons ranging from wanting less bloat to more battery life to a morbid case of flashaholism (such as myself and @TheAxman). There's nothing saying you have to go balls to the wall here and you may find yourself completely happy with the stock ROM and a better kernel. Just read up and it'll make perfect sense.
Last word of advice: have Odin and the stock ROM on hand so you can flash back to stock if necessary. Some ROMs don't play well when flashed on top of others, even if you do a full wipe.
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I was actually in the exact same situation as you.
However, I decided to flash a TW based ROM to keep all the cool Samsung features.
I'd recommend any of the Stock Based ones here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Just do your research and look for the features you need.
Thanks a lot guys! I'll be doing some reading but at least I know where to look.
One last thing: I keep seeing this loki thing around. Since I'm on an att version I got that I need it, but what exactly is it and where can I get it? I see a lot of references to it, but I can't seem to find a download link or a tutorial on it...
Thanks again!
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Don' t take the loki thing and run with it..if you are rooted and have recovery installed, flash the rom of choice and use a att kernel that already has been loki'ed.
Simple. That way you will never go wrong.
The Ax says this is my method of choice. Could care less about loki.
I recommend cm10.1 . It is aosp based, tins of features, fast, and just nice to use. I use it on my att sgs4 right now. It is nightly release but it is VERY STABLE. Ge is just tw with an aosp fanboy shirt on .lol.
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Hi everyone, im new here although i have passed through these threads constantly. I decided to switch from Apple to Android. I had my iphone Jailbroken so its really normal for me to want the same with my samsung S4. However, im curious about the reality of rooting. What is rooting really? Why is there so many roms to choose from? What is the best Rom really? When i do rooting will i eliminate my data, If so is there a way to retrieve it without contacting my phone provider (Sprint)? This are question im most curious about, i apologies if they have been answered already. For sake of time, i'd like best if you responded me with an answer or something closes to it rather than an unnecessary remark. I appreciate everyones time and help, i wish you all a great Thank YOU
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Hi everyone, im new here although i have passed through these threads constantly. I decided to switch from Apple to Android. I had my iphone Jailbroken so its really normal for me to want the same with my samsung S4. However, im curious about the reality of rooting. What is rooting really? Why is there so many roms to choose from? What is the best Rom really? When i do rooting will i eliminate my data, If so is there a way to retrieve it without contacting my phone provider (Sprint)? This are question im most curious about, i apologies if they have been answered already. For sake of time, i'd like best if you responded me with an answer or something closes to it rather than an unnecessary remark. I appreciate everyones time and help, i wish you all a great Thank YOU
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Rooting in itself is granting you full access to your phone - sort of like running administrator mode on a PC - and being able to change anything you want.
There actually aren't that many roms out for the Sprint S4 at the moment comparatively to others since it's still a pretty new device. But every rom brings something different to your device - different modifications, different things removed or kept from stock, unique features, Themes, and more. Every rom is different as people look and want different things, you should look through each and see what each offers and see what intices you the most.
What do you mean data? If you mean data reception, no. If you mean like apps and contacts, contacts and that stuff is restored when you log into your Google account. But you usually wipe all your apps when installing a new rom but you can make a backup of your apps using an app called titanium backup which you can restore when you reinstall the app after putting on a new rom (there are similar apps for sms restoring and call log restoring). But you don't need to worry about dealing with Sprint with any of that. Rooting is much more of an open experience than anything you'd get from jailbreaking an iPhone and dealing with apple.
And lastly, there are basically two types of overarching roms you will find here. Roms that are based of Touchwiz, which is the Samsung version of the android operating system (which includes all the Samsung specific features like air view and smart scroll etc as well as its general interface) - it's basically an overlay of Android with Samsungs touch.
And there are AOSP based roms (Android Open Source Project) which are roms based on stock Android without any phone manufacturers touch - for example Samsung has TouchWiz and HTC has Sense. It's what you'd find on pure Google phones like the Nexus.
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inlineboy said:
Rooting in itself is granting you full access to your phone - sort of like running administrator mode on a PC - and being able to change anything you want.
There actually aren't that many roms out for the Sprint S4 at the moment comparatively to others since it's still a pretty new device. But every rom brings something different to your device - different modifications, different things removed or kept from stock, unique features, Themes, and more. Every rom is different as people look and want different things, you should look through each and see what each offers and see what intices you the most.
What do you mean data? If you mean data reception, no. If you mean like apps and contacts, contacts and that stuff is restored when you log into your Google account. But you usually wipe all your apps when installing a new rom but you can make a backup of your apps using an app called titanium backup which you can restore when you reinstall the app after putting on a new rom (there are similar apps for sms restoring and call log restoring). But you don't need to worry about dealing with Sprint with any of that. Rooting is much more of an open experience than anything you'd get from jailbreaking an iPhone and dealing with apple.
And lastly, there are basically two types of overarching roms you will find here. Roms that are based of Touchwiz, which is the Samsung version of the android operating system (which includes all the Samsung specific features like air view and smart scroll etc as well as its general interface) - it's basically an overlay of Android with Samsungs touch.
And there are AOSP based roms (Android Open Source Project) which are roms based on stock Android without any phone manufacturers touch - for example Samsung has TouchWiz and HTC has Sense. It's what you'd find on pure Google phones like the Nexus.
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Understand it so much better I appreciate the effort in writing all this for me . So the only thing that I should pay attention in is to simply find which rom does what and what I need plus create a backup for all my stuff if not saved through googlw. I completetly understand but now I want your opinion. What rom are you runing on your phone?
AndreeU17 said:
Understand it so much better I appreciate the effort in writing all this for me . So the only thing that I should pay attention in is to simply find which rom does what and what I need plus create a backup for all my stuff if not saved through googlw. I completetly understand but now I want your opinion. What rom are you runing on your phone?
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Not a problem! Well that's what you should pay attention to when picking a rom. The actual process of preparing a rom is a little more complicated then that. You basically first need to root your phone (I recommend looking up Qbking77 on YouTube, he makes excellent video walk throughs), flash a custom recovery (you can read more up on this elsewhere since me explaining it won't do it justice, but it's basically a mode you put your phone it where you can make backups and restore roms with your setup as well as flash (basically install) new roms, and then putting on a new rom.
I recommend a Touchwiz rom definitely if your starting out. Three I would recommend for you are FreeGS4 which is basically the stock rom + a lot of handy modifications + the ability to delete the bloatware Samsung doesn't let you normally delete. ForceRom is essentially the same but with all the bloatware already removed. And lastly The Blue Kuban is the stock rom with removed bloat, lots of great modifications, the ability to pick install additional mods from within the rom, and is themed to be completely blue.
I would do FreeGS4 first as I know for sure there is also a video walk through on instslling it.
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AndreeU17 said:
Hi everyone, im new here although i have passed through these threads constantly. I decided to switch from Apple to Android. I had my iphone Jailbroken so its really normal for me to want the same with my samsung S4. However, im curious about the reality of rooting. What is rooting really? Why is there so many roms to choose from? What is the best Rom really? When i do rooting will i eliminate my data, If so is there a way to retrieve it without contacting my phone provider (Sprint)? This are question im most curious about, i apologies if they have been answered already. For sake of time, i'd like best if you responded me with an answer or something closes to it rather than an unnecessary remark. I appreciate everyones time and help, i wish you all a great Thank YOU
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Google is your friend!!
I just rooted my phone and installed cwm recovery, now I want to flash custom rom, I also want to keep the S Note, Action Memo app. Any suggestions? Sorry I am new to all of these. Thank you in advance for your help.
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As per some rule you can't ask for best ROM/ Kernel suggestion, but I like stock based ROMs, so I use the Deodex version of OF3 ROM, Deodex because I need Xposed. If you don't need that you can use Odex version.
This is the one I use, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655
OF3 however is not latest, OGX (X=something) is, but I don't care really. The above ROM doesn't come with a lot of options, just very few features added, but that's what I like, as close as possible to stock ROM. If you don't need Xposed and need a ROM with lots of features then look for AryaMod.
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As per some rule you can't ask for best ROM/ Kernel suggestion.
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Not true anymore, mods changed it
They even made a front page discussion about people favourite
To advise someone what is the best, Is based on there own experience and opinion.
My own experience may be mainly gaming.....
Or it may be with Business models, Each depends on the type of feedback, result in complete different ROMS....
Can you see where am going with this?
I can answer you question, but only Vague:
S note and Action Memo - Why????
The reason i ask, if you want to keep them, Then you can only go with a TW based ROM. This is the TouchWiz (Samsung ROM)
If you dnot have a valid reason, other than you use them.
The a CM or any AOSP Based ROM, Does not have ANY TouchWiz Feature, For example, the Spen, The Menu, The functions.
But there are additional Apps that are matched in results or in some cases better (As they have been developed on the feedback of the note users)
S-Pen command is an example.
Then you can get addition application like: Fiinote that are just as good as Action Memo, Or EverNote or OneNote.
The LIST Goes one.
My one advise to you, Is to enjoy flashing and try them all, See what grabs your attention, Every person on XDA is different, and this is possibly why one of the rules come in about BEST ROMS.
Its too much optionion based, and everyone has there own option.
I hope this is not a complete pointless post, and helps a little.
But there is no harm in trying, and you will have alot of Fun seeing each developers take on it
Thank you so much @dave7802 for your help. I really appreciate it and it all makes sense. Everybody has own different preference. That is what I am going to do, I will try different roms and see where to stick. Glad I have this XDA app on my phone and receiving info and answers from you guys. Thanks again sir. Cheers!
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Not true anymore, mods changed it
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Okay, that's excellent! I never did like that decision anyway. Thanks for informing mate.
My advice is Audax L. Stock based, reliable, always up the date, all mods which are neccessary and useful, easy flashable with aroma installer and has own costum kernel which is always up the date and really good for performance and battery consuming. Just try it.
Alliance...
Morningstar said:
Alliance...
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+1 (not biased at all)
Do the non-tw Roms support pressure sensitivity through ie; sketchbook? It's been a long time since an official lollipop update. .
I'm usin' the DarkLord s6 port V2.0 from several weeks as daily driver, it's good and reliable, no problems exept a minor bug with fast notes.
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How do you guys stay on TW?
I love it, the features dont get me wrong, Some of them are very nice.
But the speed is notability different coming from using CM for more than 12 months.
Small things like, Notification Status Pull Down, the delay from swiping down, to it appearing is noticeable slow.
App Drawer, open close applications, Accessing menus, All have a delayed response. Multi Tasking loading.
I have tried the following ROMs,
Dark Lord S6 and Note variants.
AryaMod V7.2
Norma Rom
Alliance
The BEST in regards to speed, But still noticeable is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655
As another user advised (Thanks)
This is no slander, As i do enjoy touchwiz, But i will admit, i am a speed freak, When i want someone i want it yesterday.
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How do you guys stay on TW?
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To me CM/AOSP has too many missing UI/UX features, requiring more swipes and clicks for activities I perform. Also, once one has actually grown accustomed to TW, it requires time to learn. If you're busy in your life, you don't want to be non-performing and slow for 2 weeks when learning the ins-and-outs of a new ROM/UI/UX variant.
That's why I have not switched.
I accept the slowness of TW, but it's not too slow for me (and I multi-task a lot).
I'd be willing to try out CM builds, but it seems impossible to find realisting non-fanboy reviews of CM builds on Note3, that detail:
- what real bugs there are (sometimes the small annoying bits in Wifi/BT/sleep/battery can drive one inside, even if 90% of casual users don't notice them)
- what Pen/TW/camera module features does one has to give up when switching to non-Samsung ROM? CM/AOSP ROMs will always be missing Samsung libs, apps and as such many hardware supported features due to their generic nature. I have not seen an honest list that just lists all the missing features from Note3 CM/AOSP roms, without resorting to "nobody uses that feature anyway, so I didn't list it" type of comments.
Just backing up, cleaning up, flashing, re-installing, re-merging apps and data is so much work (full work day for me) that I just don't have time for that, unless I know what kind of deep doo-doo I'm going to end up with.
This, imho, is one of the reasons preventing some users from switching over, but yes, Samsung's "we are too lazy to update Note 3" policy is really pushing me towards CM builds
BTW, to not be totally off-topic I'm using DarkLord 5.0.2 build and it is so-so. Sometimes it lags badly. Sometimes it closes background apps by itself (way too fast, even with no huge multitasking). I'd like to get it patched and update to 5.1.1. but until Samsung releases the 5.1.1 ROM for Note 3, no such luck.
How do I stay on TW?
The simple answer is, I bought a Note 3, there are quite a lot of micro/ small things which make it a Note, and as long as I want to use a Note phone like a Note phone, I would use TouchWiz, end of story.
I am a professional. I need quite a lot of things. If I were a kid with no life other than to show off to friends hey look I have the latest version of Android, do you have it?, and take pride in that, probably I would go the AOSP route. Thank me that I can't be one of those low IQ people! :laugh: If you don't have the brain to process what's good/ complete and what's pathetic/ half baked nonsense, then anything which comes with a decent enough packing will look good to you.
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How do I stay on TW?
I am a professional. I need quite a lot of things. If I were a kid with no life other than to show off to friends hey look I have the latest version of Android, do you have it?, and take pride in that, probably I would go the AOSP route. Thank me that I can't be one of those low IQ people! :laugh: If you don't have the brain to process what's good/ complete and what's pathetic/ half baked nonsense, then anything which comes with a decent enough packing will look good to you.
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I've never seen someone start a sentence saying "I'm a professional" and then write such a stupid post.
smeddy said:
I've never seen someone start a sentence saying "I'm a professional" and then write such a stupid post.
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Yeah, like I give a lot of damn.
devilsdouble said:
Yeah, like I give a lot of damn.
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I know you dont. Thankyou for being part of this community.
I have tried 90% of the note 3 rom on XDA, here's my result:
Best Rom
TW ROM: Audax
AOSP/CM: Temasak
devilsdouble said:
How do I stay on TW?
The simple answer is, I bought a Note 3, there are quite a lot of micro/ small things which make it a Note, and as long as I want to use a Note phone like a Note phone, I would use TouchWiz, end of story.
I am a professional. I need quite a lot of things. If I were a kid with no life other than to show off to friends hey look I have the latest version of Android, do you have it?, and take pride in that, probably I would go the AOSP route. Thank me that I can't be one of those low IQ people! :laugh: If you don't have the brain to process what's good/ complete and what's pathetic/ half baked nonsense, then anything which comes with a decent enough packing will look good to you.
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Spot on couldn't agree more, with all points.