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can touch wiz ux be ported to TF

can touch wiz ux be ported to TF
can also the apps
especially mini apps
thanks in advanced

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http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/5/30/
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daniel9522 said:
can touch wiz ux be ported to TF
can also the apps
especially mini apps
thanks in advanced
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Fine, I'll be the one to tell you since no-one else will :
Not only is TouchWiz made for a completely different/older version of Android, but also for a completely different device (e.g. the one in my sig). You're asking whether a rather major port can happen here, which most likely it won't.
Sorry.

jonitfcfan said:
Fine, I'll be the one to tell you since no-one else will :
Not only is TouchWiz made for a completely different/older version of Android, but also for a completely different device (e.g. the one in my sig). You're asking whether a rather major port can happen here, which most likely it won't.
Sorry.
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I think he was talking about Touch Wiz UX. Which is what the new samsung 10.1 tablet has.

jonitfcfan said:
Fine, I'll be the one to tell you since no-one else will :
Not only is TouchWiz made for a completely different/older version of Android, but also for a completely different device (e.g. the one in my sig). You're asking whether a rather major port can happen here, which most likely it won't.
Sorry.
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Shame you are wrong then!
Touchwiz UX is the new Honeycomb version of Touchwiz which will shortly debut on the Galaxy Tab 10.1, which is quite a similar device to the TF.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is both possible to port, and that someone does.
Regards,
Dave

OK - granted the galaxy tab will have a new honey comb specific version of touch wiz...but frankly if it does for tablets what the previous touch wiz does for phones then Samsung can keep it. Porting touch wiz will be like contracting a disease - deliberately.
Hopefully the ADW team will deliver us a shiny new version of their launcher that is optimized for honeycomb

jonitfcfan said:
Fine, I'll be the one to tell you since no-one else will :
Not only is TouchWiz made for a completely different/older version of Android, but also for a completely different device (e.g. the one in my sig). You're asking whether a rather major port can happen here, which most likely it won't.
Sorry.
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Lol..
10char

Regardless, WHO WANTS TouchWiz? It's aids. It's better to have stock Honeycomb experience, and install any launcher you prefer afterwards.

foxmeister said:
Shame you are wrong then!
Touchwiz UX is the new Honeycomb version of Touchwiz which will shortly debut on the Galaxy Tab 10.1, which is quite a similar device to the TF.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is both possible to port, and that someone does.
Regards,
Dave
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My bad ! I thought it was a typo in the title and that he meant ui rather than ux.

frosty5689 said:
Regardless, WHO WANTS TouchWiz? It's aids. It's better to have stock Honeycomb experience, and install any launcher you prefer afterwards.
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+1, I'm hoping that SPB Software can make a tablet-optimised version of SPB Shell 3D. It works very well on my phone and I'm sure they can make it work just as well on a tablet .

frosty5689 said:
Regardless, WHO WANTS TouchWiz? It's aids. It's better to have stock Honeycomb experience, and install any launcher you prefer afterwards.
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I like it, at least the Galaxy tab one. It has however issues, like that horrible colour backdrop for the icons and a true love for re organising the icons, so that you won't find them anymore where you'd expect. And that's why I got ADW EX.
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Personally, I use ADW EX.
When it comes toUX, you simply cannot make everybody happy. I know that quite well, I just spent most of the day yesterday on a design meeting for what should have been a simply WPF app...
The reason I like ADW is because I can make the UX look close to what I would like it to be.

Hybrid ROM for our Note

There was a thread posted over in the Q&A section that I think was rather overlooked, and really deserves more attention. Since the Note is supposed to be the best of both worlds (tablet and phone) then it stands to reason that a hybrid ROM for the Note would make the most sense!
Even now that we have ICS on the Note, it's still (disappointingly) just a really big phone with an S-Pen. What would really push it over the edge, as far as the cool factor is concerned, is for someone with the skills and know-how to figure out a way to make a decent hybrid ROM for the Note.
We could merge UI elements of both the phone and tablet interfaces, and also have it such that some apps run in a phone interface, while others in a tablet mode etc. Also, having the tablet navigation buttons on the bottom would be nice for using the S-Pen (because it doesn't work on the capacitive buttons).
What are your thoughts everyone?

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
There was a thread posted over in the Q&A section that I think was rather overlooked, and really deserves more attention. Since the Note is supposed to be the best of both worlds (tablet and phone) then it stands to reason that a hybrid ROM for the Note would make the most sense!
Even now that we have ICS on the Note, it's still (disappointingly) just a really big phone with an S-Pen. What would really push it over the edge, as far as the cool factor is concerned, is for someone with the skills and know-how to figure out a way to make a decent hybrid ROM for the Note.
We could merge UI elements of both the phone and tablet interfaces, and also have it such that some apps run in a phone interface, while others in a tablet mode etc. Also, having the tablet navigation buttons on the bottom would be nice for using the S-Pen (because it doesn't work on the capacitive buttons).
What are your thoughts everyone?
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There is somthing called AOSP/AOKP. You can go into tablet mode just by changing DPI. Navigation buttons are there

joyo22 said:
There is somthing called AOSP/AOKP. You can go into tablet mode just by changing DPI. Navigation buttons are there
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Thanks. I know this already... I'm not talking about AOS/KP.

I know I have mentioned this a number of times, and it still hasn't yet caught on. Why? Idk...
But, to clarify, I am not necessarily talking about an AOSP/AOKP build here (I actually kinda like some of the TouchWiz flare).
Hell, even if someone were to take some cues from the 7.7 and tweaked the Note's framework to include things like the min-app tray and little things like that, that would be awesome!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I know I have mentioned this a number of times, and it still hasn't yet caught on. Why? Idk...
But, to clarify, I am not necessarily talking about an AOSP/AOKP build here (I actually kinda like some of the TouchWiz flare).
Hell, even if someone were to take some cues from the 7.7 and tweaked the Note's framework to include things like the min-app tray and little things like that, that would be awesome!
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imilka already said he's working with PA team to port it over, so we just need some patience
About including some of the 7.7 features to Note I don't think there will ever be a developer that is willing to invest the huge amount of time and resources in incorporating AOSP/AOKP with 7.7 stock features and I have no idea if that's even possible :/

matius44 said:
imilka already said he's working with PA team to port it over, so we just need some patience
About including some of the 7.7 features to Note I don't think there will ever be a developer that is willing to invest the huge amount of time and resources in incorporating AOSP/AOKP with 7.7 stock features and I have no idea if that's even possible :/
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I guess this all boils down to the same question I'm sure a lot of us have been asking for a while: How long will it be before we have a fully functioning AOSP/AOKP build, where everything (and I mean everything!) works? (MHL, OTG, the button on the S-Pen, full hardware video acceleration, etc etc etc...)

What's 7.7 ?
Anyway, I would love a ROM that can "run" TW framework, so that everything works as on the official ROM, and that allows tablet mode. After trying tablet mode, I don't want to go back to smartphone interface, at the same time I would like sock FM Radio, stock camera, stock calendar, etc. I've seen the Galaxy Tab 7" 2 recently, it was ICS and I don't know what TW version it was but I'd love that on my note.

I like the idea.
Haven't tried tablet in a while....but isn't the font awfully hard to read? I (I'm old!)...And...
I use portrait most of the time....doesn't tablet force a reach to the top. of the device for most app functions?
I'd love to use tablet mode now but those made functionality tough for me.
Thanks

matius44 said:
imilka already said he's working with PA team to port it over, so we just need some patience
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thats going to cause a HUGE storm of drama if he does that, they dont want people using their code till they release it
check dagr8's i717 thread *it was cleaned more then our aosp thread was after all the drama
i already had PA running but kept it to myself cause they asked me to after i msged them asking if i could give it to n7000 users

JamieD81 said:
thats going to cause a HUGE storm of drama if he does that, they dont want people using their code till they release it
check dagr8's i717 thread *it was cleaned more then our aosp thread was after all the drama
i already had PA running but kept it to myself cause they asked me to after i msged them asking if i could give it to n7000 users
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No there were a thread here about it and moles said they don't mind it ported but just want a dev who can work with them, so imilka PMed him couple of days back and then said they are working on a port

matius44 said:
No there were a thread here about it and moles said they don't mind it ported but just want a dev who can work with them, so imilka PMed him couple of days back and then said they are working on a port
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guess i msged the wrong guy from PA a few days back then i got nothing but a huge NO from them
but i talked to imilka earlier we did infact msg 2 different members, he got the decent guy i got the @#&@!

[Q] TouchWiz Launcher for nexus 4?

Hi i was wondering if anyone has ported the launcher from the note 2 or s3 to our phone?

currently no, lack of interest also, because all samsungs features is in the touchwiz framework, just like htc sense

what are you missing from touchwiz?

Why would we need touchwiz it's beyond awful
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mediavieja said:
Hi i was wondering if anyone has ported the launcher from the note 2 or s3 to our phone?
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If you want it that bad, you can use Nova/apex launchers with the touchwiz theme.
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adil_ said:
If you want it that bad, you can use Nova/apex launchers with the touchwiz theme.
Sent from my Galaxy Ace.
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I think that he's more interested on the multiwindow ...
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batna.antab said:
I think that he's more interested on the multiwindow ...
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Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.

estallings15 said:
Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.
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+1 for multi-window.
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Yeah well multiwindows for once and also the interface, i didnt know that feature from nova launcher to use a touchwiz theme. ill try it today

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101204
Here you go.. No multi window unfortunately
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multiwindow
you can use floating browser from google play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gpc.myweb.hinet.net.PopupWeb&feature=also_installed
and for video multiwindow https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gpc.myweb.hinet.net.PopupVideo&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiZ3BjLm15d2ViLmhpbmV0Lm5ldC5Qb3B1cFZpZGVvIl0.
hope this helped im planning to get a nexus 4 but idk maybe you can anwser me this id the onscreen button take up screen size from the 4.7 or not ?:good::good::good:

I'd LOVE the smartalarm from touchwiz
Everything else was kinda crap

okay why does it matter why he wants to have the touchwiz launcher? You guys are seriously going to question why he wants it like its any of your buisness, he likes touchwiz, its his choice of liking a different os. Its really stupid for you guys to question and put him down with negativity in comments instead of finding a link and if you dont like it? KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELVES. Thanks to those who provided the link.

Shadowfox993 said:
okay why does it matter why he wants to have the touchwiz launcher? You guys are seriously going to question why he wants it like its any of your buisness, he likes touchwiz, its his choice of liking a different os. Its really stupid for you guys to question and put him down with negativity in comments instead of finding a link and if you dont like it? KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELVES. Thanks to those who provided the link.
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I was just Googling some touchwiz launcher stuff for N4 and came to this thread.
Your comment is something that I have always wondered here at XDA. If you are in a particular device's forum, it means you are married to that phone and shall not praise/desire features and stuff which other phones have. It isn't like ditching your current device, XDA is all about development, so if someone seeks features from other phones, I think people should help (if you can) rather than criticizing. And when it comes to likings, everyone has his own preferences... who r we really to judge WHY he is liking this.. Why NOT he likes that.. etc etc. I know a lot of people do not like TW but many do. I ask the TW haters, if you don't like TW then what are you doing in this thread? Why replying? Why bother sneaking in? Just mind your own bloody damn business.

estallings15 said:
Uh, it will take a lot more than a launcher to get multi-window. Maybe the CM team or some uberdev will build a multi-window setup that works. That is about the only thing I want on my N4.
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If you start making your own distributions of Android behaving in such fundamentally different ways, I suspect we are going to need to start doing things to prevent you from impacting our app ecosystem. I'm not sure what, but I could imagine things such as restricting how users can interact with Market apps on these devices (not allowing reviews or such).
We have let a lot of things in this area slide -- for example to be allowed to include Market on your device you are supposed to fully pass CTS. However, if you start really diverging from the core Android platform (I would argue this takes you well into the realm of a fork rather than a customization) then some deep issues are going to come up about how we handle these custom builds.
We have been putting a lot of thought and work for a number of years into how to let Android applications run on increasingly diverse and dynamic screens. Doing this correctly, without impacting our app developers in a negative way, is a really challenging problem. I also think it is something that needs to be done at the mainline platform level, not as a customization, because doing it right is going to require new well defined interfaces with applications for them to interact with it, possibly starting with just a facility they need to use to opt in to it.
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googles (dianne hackborns) response when cyanogenmod was about to merge a multiwindow feature (cornerstone).
if its a smaller cm-fork or rom, cornerstone is open source waiting to be cherry-picked - although discontinued and buggy from what i hear.
can't imagine google is very happy about samsung doing it, but they might be too powerful a foe to upset.
another small observation, dianne herself introduced something like per app dpi to jellybean which seems related, still dormant. we might see it one day implemented as a real feature.

[Q] Camera Features on CM10.1

Would it be possible to port the g s4's camera app onto cm10.1 on the g s4?

Just give developer the time, the phone don't even release on market yet
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XeactorZ said:
Just give developer the time, the phone don't even release on market yet
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I wasn't expecting it to happen suddenly of course, but just wanted to know if it is possible? Have developers done this before?

not sure, but probably not...
it wasn't possible on the SIII as far as I'm aware of, as it was dependent on the whole touchwiz firmware

PLUG313 said:
not sure, but probably not...
it wasn't possible on the SIII as far as I'm aware of, as it was dependent on the whole touchwiz firmware
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It is possible, and it is possible on the s3 as well...the problem is its not worth the effort,as you have to find all the touchwiz dependency, and pretty much remap how the app calls on those dependencies
In otherwords...THOUSANDS of smali edits...and no one likes smali...even just a few smali edits is painful enough to do on your own
When it comes to software, just about anything can be ported/hacked...the real issue is weather or not the difficulty of the task is worth the end result...in this case countless hours (months of work) for just a few neat features ported to aosp/cm - def not worth it imho
And then once you got it ported you have to worry about the legality of it...ttouchwiz isn't aosp, so bringing touchwiz features...especially from the camera...could result in lawsuits. Not even google allows Roms to come with gapps preinstalled, why would Samsung allow us to preinstalled a Samsung source/software onto aosp?
Btw, yes I am well aware of those touchwiz experience Roms with tw launchers and all tw apps that don't have dependencies...but even then I'm still not sure of the legality of it...
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mg2195 said:
It is possible, and it is possible on the s3 as well...the problem is its not worth the effort,as you have to find all the touchwiz dependency, and pretty much remap how the app calls on those dependencies
In otherwords...THOUSANDS of smali edits...and no one likes smali...even just a few smali edits is painful enough to do on your own
When it comes to software, just about anything can be ported/hacked...the real issue is weather or not the difficulty of the task is worth the end result...in this case countless hours (months of work) for just a few neat features ported to aosp/cm - def not worth it imho
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that I didn't know, but I disagree, it could be worth it. the only reason I stay away from AOSP based roms
is because they're missing too many good samsung features unfortunately
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And then once you got it ported you have to worry about the legality of it...ttouchwiz isn't aosp, so bringing touchwiz features...especially from the camera...could result in lawsuits. Not even google allows Roms to come with gapps preinstalled, why would Samsung allow us to preinstalled a Samsung source/software onto aosp?
Btw, yes I am well aware of those touchwiz experience Roms with tw launchers and all tw apps that don't have dependencies...but even then I'm still not sure of the legality of it...
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I'm sure it's legal as long as it's ported to another device that had it on stock rom
if it's to another device, I'm not sure

[Q] Why downgrade your s4?

This isn't really a question, a little more like a long rant. So I see here and other sections where people are asking when cm10.1, AOKP, and similar roms will come out for the s4. Why would you want to do this to your phone? If you want cm10.1 you mine as well get a nexus phone because what it's made for. I could you switching from touchwiz 4.0 to 4.2 cm10.1. But switching from 4.2 touchwiz to 4.2 cm10.1 is stopping your phone from being at it's full potential. My question to you is why? Why do you want to downgrade your s4?
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Because we can or want? Because we dont like TW or want vanilla with a good cam? Do we really need a reason?
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Never used touch wiz but from seeing people's phones messing with them for a bit it seeks like crap
With that said I got the s4 because it will have much better battery life that my Nexus 4 and I'll be able to replace battery when it depletes which Ai need for work

I'll stick with stock until a new Android version arrives. I'll flash the new CM until Samsung stock updates. I'll go back to stock until there is a new Android version. And so on....

Similar to above, my strategy is just to roll with stock for a year, and if I haven't upgraded to another phone and plan to keep using my GS4, but updates are coming slow, then I'll use CM. That's really all I care for, since the S4 is pretty fast even with TW, and battery is easily accommodated.

ArianaGrande said:
This isn't really a question, a little more like a long rant. So I see here and other sections where people are asking when cm10.1, AOKP, and similar roms will come out for the s4. Why would you want to do this to your phone? If you want cm10.1 you mine as well get a nexus phone because what it's made for. I could you switching from touchwiz 4.0 to 4.2 cm10.1. But switching from 4.2 touchwiz to 4.2 cm10.1 is stopping your phone from being at it's full potential. My question to you is why? Why do you want to downgrade your s4?
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I would call it a upgrade, not a downgrade. CM will give more smooth experience, better battery life, alot faster updates, better aosp browser, better messaging and contact app, better costomization, more space left for the phone (not "only 9gb left" like touchwiz), better ram optimization, better overall user experience.
And ye, I dont care about all the bloatware and gimmicks Samsung give us. It slow down the phone and you'll only get frustrated.
Btw thanks to all the beloved CM developers who using their sparetime for giving us choices.

Originally I wasn't planning to use any custom roms on my S4, but hearing about the lack of smoothness is tempting me to. A fast and lag-free UI is important to me, so flashing a rom that provides that would not be a "downgrade" for me. Besides, I'm mostly indifferent to touchwiz features except for possibly multi-window, and it'd be nice to get rid of both Samsung and carrier bloatware. What's it to you though?

for me, first and foremost the smaller memory print on my sd card. 9 GBYTE out of 16 is ridiculous.
if it doesn't support a 64 bit Filesystem for my sd card, I won't install it.
Samsung ROMs on my S3 never let me down. Plus a lot of extra features. Compared with my Nexus 7 which is running almost perfect on a AOSP Rom.
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The "9gb issue" is easily fixable, like most providers they want to add extra apps (bloatware) that you don't need (unless you desire), all you have to do is get rid of the things you dont want or need. That will give you a ton of space.
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for future reference this can be posted in Q&A section

If Samsung will start a childish cat and mouse game like Apple, were you need a exploit to root it, I will install CM for sure!
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ArianaGrande said:
The "9gb issue" is easily fixable, like most providers they want to add extra apps (bloatware) that you don't need (unless you desire), all you have to do is get rid of the things you dont want or need. That will give you a ton of space.
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Most bloatware apps can only be disabled, not uninstalled. And I'm puzzled why you have an issue with what people install on their own phones. Isn't it possible that many people like the Galaxy S4's hardware but not its software?

Of course you will be able to get rid of the bloatware...just root it, and install titanium backup...off ya go...

Space, quicker updates, more aesthetically pleasing to me UI.

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Of course you will be able to get rid of the bloatware...just root it, and install titanium backup...off ya go...
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I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.

Come on now Ariana
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snapple232 said:
I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.
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Forgive me...i have just finished a long nightshift...
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I want CM. I also want all the Samsung bloatware with no compromise.
Is that possible?

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I'm talking about without rooting the phone, since that's what he's saying is unnecessary for people to do to the S4.
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I'm all for rooting, just not for people downgrading there phone by installing cm.
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I'm all for rooting, just not for people downgrading there phone by installing cm.
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Just read my post earlier and you will understand why people want CM, and stop talking about downgrade to CM. If CM is not for you, so dont install it. This thread is meaningless and you are officially a troll.