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So exactly what is "HD" about the HD2? The display is 800*480 WVGA at 65k colors. The camera records at VGA res and doesnt do 720p recording so exactly why is the phone "HD2"? Whats high definition about this phone?
Or does the HD stand for something other than high definition?
Sorry if this is a noob question and I did do a search first.

I think name itself relates to the size of the screen and at the same time sharpness of the interface on that screen - not neccessarily was the resolution they were after - HD is simply catchy and good marketing move. No one ownes "HD" trademark and it was time for someone to snatch it ... to me regardless of 65k colors this phone still has better screen reproduction of picture/content than Nokia I had which claimed to be 16.7 milion colors...
You must have in mind that 800x480 on 4.3" inches gives you lot more pixel density than for instance iPhone...
Here is the comparison of ppi among some of the phones (top 5):
Nokia N900 = 267 ppi
Nexus ONE = 252 ppi
HTC HD2 = 217 ppi (pixels per inch)
HTC Hero = 187ppi
iPhone 3GS = 163 ppi
This tells you that no matter if it is 65k colors it can still look pretty damn good - which HD2 does...

Comming from a Nexus I been dissapointed with the HD2 display. I for one can tell the difference in the colors. Alot of the video on my phone which were rips from HD content look kinda washed out. Same with browsing the web. Browsing on the Nexus the pages were nice and vibrant with color and I take it that mite have been because of the LED vs the LCD on the HD2.
Even the UI on the HD2 looks kinda washed out like it could use just a lil bit more color.
As for the iphone, if I remember corectly from when I owned one, it uses QVGA which was like 320*480 so thats not even on the level of Droid/Nexus/HD2. The mytouch had better vid quality then iphone but those were at HVGA.
I dont know, some area of the HD2 looks like it could use a lil more color. Or it could just be me after using Nexus for a min and now on HD2 which is on LCD instead of the vibrant offering of LED.

hypersonicx said:
Comming from a Nexus I been dissapointed with the HD2 display. I for one can tell the difference in the colors. Alot of the video on my phone which were rips from HD content look kinda washed out. Same with browsing the web. Browsing on the Nexus the pages were nice and vibrant with color and I take it that mite have been because of the LED vs the LCD on the HD2.
Even the UI on the HD2 looks kinda washed out like it could use just a lil bit more color.
As for the iphone, if I remember corectly from when I owned one, it uses QVGA which was like 320*480 so thats not even on the level of Droid/Nexus/HD2. The mytouch had better vid quality then iphone but those were at HVGA.
I dont know, some area of the HD2 looks like it could use a lil more color. Or it could just be me after using Nexus for a min and now on HD2 which is on LCD instead of the vibrant offering of LED.
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I have not seen Nexus One in person as of yet but this article makes me not wanting it anyway... Click Here

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I have not seen Nexus One in person as of yet but this article makes me not wanting it anyway... Click Here
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Yeah I read that article a couple weeks ago. The article makes sense but actually seeing a Nexus One display is person and comparing it to HD2 and comparing to a Moto Droid, the nexus display still stands out on top.
Watching a 720p live performance down scaled to 800*480 @ 30fps @ 2500kbps on Nexus and then on HD2 you can see where the HD2 is missing colors or some areas look pale. From all the phones I been on, the Nexus has the best display I have ever seen so far on a mobile phone. If only the Nexus display was the same size as HD2 that would be perfect lol. I hope the future phones after HD2 go AMOLED or Super AMOLED because the vibrant color makes a big difference.

Darnit! and here I thought it came with a V Twin, based on the HD.

Iphone 4 quality compared to Xperia X10 Screen

My friend came over to mine the other day with his new Iphone 4. Comparing it to my X10. The X10 quality looks shockingly awful compared to the Iphone 4, now its stayed in my head that the X10 screen isnt as good as what I use to think it was since seeing the Iphone 4's Screen. It is truely amazing!!!!!
Trying my best to find Hi-Def wallpapers since he had an Hi-Def Wallpaper on his Iphone 4, to try and make my screen look half decent, but I havent come across any of yet..
After a bit of research i found the screen Hardware Capabilities and Specs.
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TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 640 x 960 pixels, 3.5 inches
Xperia X10 -
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So, X10 has a 4 Inch screen and 409,920 Pixels (Bigger screen less pixels than Iphone 4 screen)
and Iphone 4 has 3.5 Inch screen and 614,400 Pixels. (Smaller screen more pixels compared to X10 screen) which means, this is obviously a better screen than X10
Is it just me who thinks this? also does the 16M colours that the Iphone 4 has, take any effect on this because I read that the human eye can only see X amount of colours.
Also I know I am never going to get close or near quality to the Iphone 4 Screen, but does anybody know which type of wallpapers bring out the best quality in the X10?
Thanks!

even if its as you say the iphone 4 has a lot of BUGS like the one when you lose the signal when you hold the phone.
So i think that you should thank god you have a X10 and not a iphone 4
just my opinion.

x10 has 16M, just not on android 1.6
use any wallpaper from this thread

Wait for the update, then you will appreciate your x10's display more.

The X10 has a wonderful screen. Leave the iphones for those without personalities.

Dont believe apple when they say they have x million colors. They have said that about all their screens and have been sued before for lying about it. Besides, I trust a sony screen before an apple screen because sony really knows their stuff.

iPhone 4 - IPS-panel, LED-backlit
XPERIA X10 - TN-panel, CCFL-backlit LED-backlit
Edit: although the X10 looks like a CCFL backlit display, it's indeed a LED-backlit one. This is clear from the disassembly shots posted on this board, as the X10 display panel doesn't have a high voltage cable going from a screen bulb to an inverter (CCFL structure) and only has one connector (LED structure).

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iPhone 4 - IPS-panel, LED-backlit
XPERIA X10 - TN-panel, CCFL-backlit
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Where is your source on this?

With the same resolution, smaller screen always look better than a bigger screen. Just compare same resolution 32 and 52 LCD TV, which one looks sharper? Iphone is 3.5", X10 is 4", of course the "smaller" screen looks better.

gpmg762 said:
With the same resolution, smaller screen always look better than a bigger screen. Just compare same resolution 32 and 52 LCD TV, which one looks sharper? Iphone is 3.5", X10 is 4", of course the "smaller" screen looks better.
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Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)

Im not jelous of the iphone just consider flash on the iphone it is capable event whit his gazillion resolution screen
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Just laugh at iPhone users about the fact that your phone isn't being remotely accessed by the control freak that is Steve Jobs (yes he stalks his customer ).
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k1sr said:
Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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I agree, screen resolution isnt important on a SMART phone. Keyword smart, its for computing and being all around practical. by that respect almost all 'Droid' series phones win hands down as well as the X10.
Although name calling is alittle childish, Apple deserves it for their behavior toward customers in this 'ipoo 4' crap.

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Although name calling is alittle childish, Apple deserves it for their behavior toward customers in this 'ipoo 4' crap.
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Childish, and fun...

k1sr said:
Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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It is actually 1.5 times the resolution not double.

cytokine said:
iPhone 4 - IPS-panel, LED-backlit
XPERIA X10 - TN-panel, CCFL-backlit
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I really doubt they can fit a ccfl tube into a mobile phone. I think all smartphones have a led backlight.
Also nowhere on the internet is stated what sort of panel is used in the xperia x10.
on topic: All apple products are bad, only their macosx software is good. For example, their ipods have worse sound quality than other mp3 players that cost half as much. Their iphone 4 is a complete design flaw, it just sucks and android is a better os. At the moment the screen of de xperia x10 is limited to 65k colors, so we have to wait untill the update in Q3 or Q4 to see it's true potential.
And at some point it doesn't matter anymore how much pixels the screen has, because you can't see the individual pixels anymore. The screen of de X10 has enough pixels in my opinion.

k1sr said:
Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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How old are you? Do you expect to be taken seriously when you post things like "iPoo"?
To the OP: What's so "obviously better" about the screen? The fact that it's smaller? Both phones are incredibly clear and easy to read, not to mention bright.
To everyone: If you're so worked up over specs, why did you buy an X10? There are more things to a phone (and life, really...) than pure specs.

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How old are you? Do you expect to be taken seriously when you post things like "iPoo"?
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petty much. can't take anyone who calls it iPoo seriously. It's iPoop.

metcard said:
petty much. can't take anyone who calls it iPoo seriously. It's iPoop.
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You beat me to it! I've been calling it that for ages!

The lack of colour range on the X10 is a tad annoying, although for most things you may not even notice it. It will be nice when SE releases 2.1 and the colour support is better.
As for the iPhones resolution; it's pretty nice. From what I've seen images are very crisp and clear. That being said, I ditched the iPhone/iPod Touch for the X10 because the screen was too small, not because the resolution was. That hasn't changed.

Nexus One, why not 720p officially

Just to start a discussion.
everyone knows N1 is capable of doing video recording on 720p.
I am just wondering, why google does not officially release such capability? Or do you think they just want user to root it and do whatever they want? Desire has it anyway.
I am so looking forward to an official 720p, if it ever happens.

Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.

evilkorn said:
Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.
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Because of the lens?

zachthemaster said:
Because of the lens?
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ok, that too. ;-)
it does a really nice job @ 800xwhatever, but 720p is just too much. it starts having artifacts if there is any motion at all, and any panning/tilting turns the picture terrible. just what i've experienced.

using the latest CM6 nightly i have yet to come across any issues with it, i actually like it, but yea compare it to a real HD camera (not the Evo) but a handheld camera the 720p is crap

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using the latest CM6 nightly i have yet to come across any issues with it, i actually like it, but yea compare it to a real HD camera (not the Evo) but a handheld camera the 720p is crap
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.
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Well rooted N1s and desires are able to do it. Better than what HTC gave in the official froyo update too.

zachthemaster said:
Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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I don't think it's the sensor. I think it has to do with how fast the phone can take data from that sensor and do something with it. It can't keep up with the camera flooding it with data at 24 FPS at 720p.

zachthemaster said:
Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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megapixel sensor size doesn't equate to the quality of a camera.
The hardware in the iphone4 is better than that of the nexus one.

JCopernicus said:
megapixel sensor size doesn't equate to the quality of a camera.
The hardware in the iphone4 is better than that of the nexus one.
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Yeah I knew that. I didn't know if the iPhone's hardware was better. I didn't think it was.
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It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you

Stea1thmode said:
It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you
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Aka, see Google Nexus One.
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Stea1thmode said:
It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you
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A bit better (and closer to the truth) explanation would be:
Google have X engineering "horsepower" that can only do Y stuff in a given amount of time. They can:
1) Spend more time upgrading their DEVELOPER phone capabilities (which was never intended to be anything but developer phone) for the sake of the VERY FEW customers that bought this phone while it was in commercial stage (Nexus owners are a tiny percentage of Android device owners),
2) Spend more time enhancing Android system for ALL the current and future customers of ALL phone manufacturers.
Guess which one they would prefer? Not a hard guess, right?
Yes, unfortunately, it's not the one you would prefer.
The same goes for "why not improved graphics driver", "why not improved N support", etc.

I 2nd that.I think that Google engineers are more into improving android os as a whole.
OP,didn't you notice how many updates and radios the desire has compared to ours?
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The iphone4 does 720p and movement really, really well, i was shocked, and admittedly a little jealous. When it is said that the Iphone4's "hardware" is better, is it that the I4's hardware has better quality, or does it just have better specs? In other words, the I4 doesnt have a full ghz processor right? But is it just much better quality? I dont really know what im talking about im just very interested in 720/HD recording on smartphones, definitely a prerequisite going forward...thanks

DMaverick50 said:
The iphone4 does 720p and movement really, really well, i was shocked, and admittedly a little jealous. When it is said that the Iphone4's "hardware" is better, is it that the I4's hardware has better quality, or does it just have better specs? In other words, the I4 doesnt have a full ghz processor right? But is it just much better quality? I dont really know what im talking about im just very interested in 720/HD recording on smartphones, definitely a prerequisite going forward...thanks
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yeah, even when I tested the iPhone 2G camera that has 2MP sensor, it's photo quality was alot better than my Nexus. just the resolution is bigger in Nexus. and iPhone 4 has a Apple A4 1 GHZ processor, that equals almost the same CPU on Nexus but with different GPU on iPhone (PowerVR SGX). it just does it really really well.

The CPU and its main frequency has exactly nothing to do w/ video encoding, most probably. Encoding/decoding in small-scale devices is usually implemented by separate subsystems (packaged with the CPU - that's why they call it SoC).

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The CPU and its main frequency has exactly nothing to do w/ video encoding, most probably. Encoding/decoding in small-scale devices is usually implemented by separate subsystems (packaged with the CPU - that's why they call it SoC).
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i see, so Apple spent a good deal of efforts to specifically make the camera so good...It wasnt just that they made the phone well, and in turn that solid hardware allowed for good camera quality.
I dont even use the N1 video recorder very often but for some reason I really want better capabilities, maybe if I did have much higher fps and resolution I would use it a lot. Currently the fps are really poor, any movement is a blur regardless of the amount of light. And of course 480 is quite dated. But the phone is otherwise top notch, and the 5mp camera is really solid and i use it a lot, under varied conditions.

I imagine the internal memory vs. whatever SD card a normal consumer would get might also play a part. The Android devices that do have 720p officially all have internal memory ( >1GB ), right? So the manufacturers can control the quality of memory used. I would think that Google/HTC would get lots more complaints from the general population who got bargain basement cards from the back of a truck and expected everything to perform flawlessly. I also agree with above points about the hardware and subsystems. So many variables. But that's also why I like the Android platform. You have a choice (and not just 16GB vs. 32GB locked to one carrier with a contract).

zachthemaster said:
Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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IF I remember correctly, Charansingh said the Iphone achieved 720p by duplicating the image thereby increasing fps to achieve 720p...or something like that. The amount of available light controls the phones ability to reach higher fps. I've gotten 26fps outdoors in bright light. The N1 is set to a max of 30fps, but will only do 1/2 of that indoors. fwiw

1080p on phones?

So I I have been researching extensively and reading many articles about 1080p screens on smartphones..... And I think I have figured it out. The human eye cannot see a difference between a 1080p smartphone and a 720p smartphone, however, there are a few drawbacks to having 1080p on a phone. One of them is battery life. It seems to use much more battery to display a 1080p resolution as opposed to a 720p resolution. And that gets multiplied when you're gaming. Also, applications and games will take up much more space then they did previously if they are optimized for the 1080p resolution. So my question is what do you guys think about the new 1080p smartphone screen Resolution Revolution? I'm hoping it doesn't make it into the Nexus 5, but that's just me.
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It's a marketing thing. Companies are going to do it because they feel like they have to and to be able to say true HD!! And think of all the tech blogs that will take a new phone down a peg or two for having "last year tech." But ultimately it's another megahertz or megapixel thing.
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Endoran said:
It's a marketing thing. Companies are going to do it because they feel like they have to and to be able to say true HD!! And think of all the tech blogs that will take a new phone down a peg or two for having "last year tech." But ultimately it's another megahertz or megapixel thing.
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Reminds me of the old days when Intel just kept upping the clockspeed on their CPU's. So what if the tiny FSB choked the movement of information down to a crawl? The standard consumer didn't know any better. The number was higher, so people bought it. In the end, it's business. You do what sells. Gimmicks sell.
*cough* Siri *cough*

1080P is utterly useless in my opinion. To be honest I can't tell the difference between my HTC One and Nexus 4 in display. 1080P should stick with HDTVs. Imagine a 4K res phone in the future and how useless it is in a 4.7 and 5 inch screen -.-

I don't really understand the need for 1080P either. Hopefully Google realizes this and sticks with 720P for the next Nexus or Moto X phone.

Its a bloody 4-5" screen, 720p looks gorgeous, with that being said, if it costs no extra battery life and performance, than 1080p on a phone is not something worth complaining about.
However when I see 1366x768 on 15.6" laptops, than I am just dissapointed.

Have any of you actually seen a 720p and 1080p screen side by side? You can definitely see a difference...well at least I can. Every time anything gets a spec bump there are always you people saying "what's the point of blah blah blah". The point of it is that its possible so why not. Its a step forward...so we should just keep phones at 720p for as long as they become irrelevant? Should we keep laptop displays at 1080p?
No that's why we have a retina iPad and Macbook and a Chromebook Pixel and a Nexus 10. Just because the difference isn't as vast as 480p-720p doesn't mean its a useless change. A 1080p HD screen looks better than a 720p screen for me and many others and just because you cannot discern the difference doesn't mean it's pointless or useless.
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Have any of you actually seen a 720p and 1080p screen side by side? You can definitely see a difference...well at least I can. Every time anything gets a spec bump there are always you people saying "what's the point of blah blah blah". The point of it is that its possible so why not. Its a step forward...so we should just keep phones at 720p for as long as they become irrelevant? Should we keep laptop displays at 1080p?
No that's why we have a retina iPad and Macbook and a Chromebook Pixel and a Nexus 10. Just because the difference isn't as vast as 480p-720p doesn't mean its a useless change. A 1080p HD screen looks better than a 720p screen for me and many others and just because you cannot discern the difference doesn't mean it's pointless or useless.
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I have. There is no difference in my opinion. I don't know if its my eyes or not but 720P and 1080P look different only in displays larger than 10 inches for me personally. To be honest it just puts more stress on battery and/or CPU on gaming since it needs to render at 1920 x 1080.

blahblah13233 said:
I have. There is no difference in my opinion. I don't know if its my eyes or not but 720P and 1080P look different only in displays larger than 10 inches for me personally. To be honest it just puts more stress on battery and/or CPU on gaming since it needs to render at 1920 x 1080.
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U must have sum eye problem there bro, put an HTC one next to HTC one x then tell me u don't see any difference, then I will tell you to see an optician.
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blahblah13233 said:
I have. There is no difference in my opinion. I don't know if its my eyes or not but 720P and 1080P look different only in displays larger than 10 inches for me personally. To be honest it just puts more stress on battery and/or CPU on gaming since it needs to render at 1920 x 1080.
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IMHO the quality of the technology driving the resolution is more important than the res itself. Super Amoled v. Ips+ and such. In most cases however I think a distinguishable difference is present from my gnex to this DNA. And my battery dumps on that device.. Even though we all know the gnex has blah blah blah battery. I get 17hrs on moderate use. Never before. Soo personal preference? Although I'd take the n4 ANY DAY.
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Tybaltus Prime said:
IMHO the quality of the technology driving the resolution is more important than the res itself. Super Amoled v. Ips+ and such. In most cases however I think a distinguishable difference is present from my gnex to this DNA. And my battery dumps on that device.. Even though we all know the gnex has blah blah blah battery. I get 17hrs on moderate use. Never before. Soo personal preference? Although I'd take the n4 ANY DAY.
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More so true. I dont like the oversaturated Super Amoled had after seeing the Galaxy Nexus had. Even if they had a 1080P res. Droid phones usually have better battery but say the Nexus 4 had a 1080P screen and with the battery it has now. It'll die out faster.

I mean 720P to FHD is important on a television sure but, in that situation it's easier to notice the bump in Res. In phones I doubt most consumers would even know the difference between qHD, 720P, and 1080P. If it's possible to add FHD w/o impacting battery+perf significantly then I all for it however if we must suffer with these tiny 3000>2xxxmah batteries then the tradeoff isn't worth it IMO. Increasing battery should be a top priority, the Razr MAXX battery should be in every high end phone.

Reminds me of camera phone megapixel discussions I have had with friends. "I have more megapixels than you do, then my camera is better" which isn't necessarily true. Anything pass 8mp isn't really needed because the majority of us will not be enlarging pictures to the point where the difference is noticeable(I think its 20x20 or 30x30). Also, the lens plays a large role as well but enough of the pixel talk.
720 is like the 8mp phone camera, it'll meet our needs and even exceed them dependent on the technology. 1080p screens just play into peoples ego's and the logic that bigger = better. We are programmed to think that way and the companies play us for the fools that we are.
Instead of a 1080p screen, I'd take a higher capacity battery and a 720p screen any day.
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Nexus 4 at 720p = 320 ppi. At 1080p it would be 480 ppi. If you think the naked eye at typical viewing distances can resolve the difference with all other things being equal, you need to see a psychiatrist instead of an optician.
Pushing 50% more pixels is going to take more CPU/GPU, hence more battery, again all things being equal. I'll take higher frame rates and lower overhead of 720p every time as those are actually noticeable.
But feel free to buy into the hype of 1080p on on a display the size of a pack of smokes, or 14Mp on a camera sensor the size of a match head. You'll make the marketing suits very happy. (c;

There is a video on YouTube somewhere, on it they are playing the same film on 2 tellys, they are both 42 inches and one is 720p and one is 1080p and just about no one can tell the difference.

I think most are not seeing the difference in resolution between 720/1080p on a phone, but instead seeing different screen technologies and attributing that to the screens resolution... IE - Super Amoled with its over-saturation and great blacks vs LCD IPS, etc.....
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Is there a difference between 720p and 1080p? Well of course there is, but I don't think its a night and day difference. If I go 1080P on a smartphone I want the screen to be at leat 5.5.
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NardVa said:
Is there a difference between 720p and 1080p? Well of course there is, but I don't think its a night and day difference. If I go 1080P on a smartphone I want the screen to be at leat 5.5.
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Well, you can see the difference if you hold it 1cm away from your eyes.
we don't really need more than 720p on 4.3-5" displays in my opinion.
It's just ridiculous that 4.7" phones have displays with up to 1920x1080 pixel, yet 15.6" laptops are mostly stuck at 1366x768.
Also, why the hell do we have 27" PC monitors with 1080p? (Sure, there are some with 2560x1440 but those are way too expensive. Hell, I'm not going to pay 800€ for such a monitor)
That's just pure bull****.
Instead of pushing 1080p on phones and 1600p on tablets, they should push the resolution of laptops and desktop computers.

its called advancements and bragging rights of owning something thats better... and for battery life, I bet making a new battery design right now, slimmer and bigger cap....
tech advanced is really picking up right now compare to years ago...

will Note 3 have 1080p non-pentile?

Do you think the Note 3 will come with a 1080p non pentile screen or 1080p pentile?

I hope it's non pentile, love the RGB SAMOLED on Note II. 1080p RGB SAMOLED is going to be awesome, It's already awesome as it is

Should read this ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247245

Roumers says DAT Sammy Gona use OLED or LCD4 in order to save power ...
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^AMOLED is OLED. SLCD? Doubt it.

It better be 1080p rgb if they want me to "upgrade". Though I'm not that interested in 1080p, the reported energy savings of the newest oled screens is alluring.
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dr.m0x said:
It better be 1080p rgb if they want me to "upgrade". Though I'm not that interested in 1080p, the reported energy savings of the newest oled screens is alluring.
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Yeah, 1080p isn't a dealbreaker for me. I don't honestly still see much difference on a good, well calibrated 720 vs 1080p screens. Probably people with perfect 20/20 vision are the ones who swear they see it, but anyways, I'm more than good with 720p
If they switch to pentile instead of rgb, doesn't matter if it's 1080p, would surely feel awful tbh. Hate pentile displays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6-a_sQbRSo
Look at both screens there, Note II and S4.

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Amoled screens have low brightness so I hope they increase the brightness on outdoor

xwonic said:
Amoled screens have low brightness so I hope they increase the brightness on outdoor
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Actually, it is possible to increase brightness of AMOLEDs a lot - but that would degrade the screen super-fast. Hence the low brightness levels/limits. And obviously the battery drain would be massive considering the whites draining a lot of battery already.

I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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Atomix86 said:
I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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In Microeconomics, in consumer choice theory, when analysis the indifference curve, there is a assumption knows as non-satiation, search them up.

Atomix86 said:
I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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+1. Can hardly notice any difference between those full HD phones and my Note II after calibration. Actually to me N2 looks quite superior to many of those screens. Don't usually put screens under microscopes though

FinancialWar said:
In Microeconomics, in consumer choice theory, when analysis the indifference curve, there is a assumption knows as non-satiation, search them up.
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What on earth are you talking about?
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Atomix86 said:
What on earth are you talking about?
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Basically, axiom of non-satiation says "more is better".
therefore 1080p > 720p.

FinancialWar said:
Basically, axiom of non-satiation says "more is better".
therefore 1080p > 720p.
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Nope, I have already stated I would prefer battery life over more pixels, the current display is fine.
By that baseless logic, you could say "more cancer is better than less"... makes no sense.

Atomix86 said:
I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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Apparently some people have super vision and can see the pixels even in a 440DPI screen. (not joking)

Well (un)luckily, I don't even have 20/20 vision (still pretty decent eyesight, mind) and I'm good with my Note 2
I think lot of the "way too obvious" differences people notice are mere placebo effect. I mean 440ppi full HD? That HAS to be WAY better right? Seeing what they want to see etc. But yeah, probably there are people with perfect super vision who can make out the difference.

tuxonhtc said:
Well (un)luckily, I don't even have 20/20 vision (still pretty decent eyesight, mind) and I'm good with my Note 2
I think lot of the "way too obvious" differences people notice are mere placebo effect. I mean 440ppi full HD? That HAS to be WAY better right? Seeing what they want to see etc. But yeah, probably there are people with perfect super vision who can make out the difference.
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As soon as people needs a microscope to tell which one is better I loose interest. Even at home, when everybody is buying the new Hi-Res flat screen TV, I choose to buy a projector, It's only 720p but the size is 300cm X 170cm. No TV can beat that yet

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