My friend came over to mine the other day with his new Iphone 4. Comparing it to my X10. The X10 quality looks shockingly awful compared to the Iphone 4, now its stayed in my head that the X10 screen isnt as good as what I use to think it was since seeing the Iphone 4's Screen. It is truely amazing!!!!!
Trying my best to find Hi-Def wallpapers since he had an Hi-Def Wallpaper on his Iphone 4, to try and make my screen look half decent, but I havent come across any of yet..
After a bit of research i found the screen Hardware Capabilities and Specs.
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Iphone 4 -
TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 640 x 960 pixels, 3.5 inches
Xperia X10 -
TFT capacitive touchscreen, 65K colors
Size 480 x 854 pixels, 4.0 inches
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So, X10 has a 4 Inch screen and 409,920 Pixels (Bigger screen less pixels than Iphone 4 screen)
and Iphone 4 has 3.5 Inch screen and 614,400 Pixels. (Smaller screen more pixels compared to X10 screen) which means, this is obviously a better screen than X10
Is it just me who thinks this? also does the 16M colours that the Iphone 4 has, take any effect on this because I read that the human eye can only see X amount of colours.
Also I know I am never going to get close or near quality to the Iphone 4 Screen, but does anybody know which type of wallpapers bring out the best quality in the X10?
Thanks!
even if its as you say the iphone 4 has a lot of BUGS like the one when you lose the signal when you hold the phone.
So i think that you should thank god you have a X10 and not a iphone 4
just my opinion.
x10 has 16M, just not on android 1.6
use any wallpaper from this thread
Wait for the update, then you will appreciate your x10's display more.
The X10 has a wonderful screen. Leave the iphones for those without personalities.
Dont believe apple when they say they have x million colors. They have said that about all their screens and have been sued before for lying about it. Besides, I trust a sony screen before an apple screen because sony really knows their stuff.
iPhone 4 - IPS-panel, LED-backlit
XPERIA X10 - TN-panel, CCFL-backlit LED-backlit
Edit: although the X10 looks like a CCFL backlit display, it's indeed a LED-backlit one. This is clear from the disassembly shots posted on this board, as the X10 display panel doesn't have a high voltage cable going from a screen bulb to an inverter (CCFL structure) and only has one connector (LED structure).
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iPhone 4 - IPS-panel, LED-backlit
XPERIA X10 - TN-panel, CCFL-backlit
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Where is your source on this?
With the same resolution, smaller screen always look better than a bigger screen. Just compare same resolution 32 and 52 LCD TV, which one looks sharper? Iphone is 3.5", X10 is 4", of course the "smaller" screen looks better.
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With the same resolution, smaller screen always look better than a bigger screen. Just compare same resolution 32 and 52 LCD TV, which one looks sharper? Iphone is 3.5", X10 is 4", of course the "smaller" screen looks better.
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Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
Im not jelous of the iphone just consider flash on the iphone it is capable event whit his gazillion resolution screen
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Just laugh at iPhone users about the fact that your phone isn't being remotely accessed by the control freak that is Steve Jobs (yes he stalks his customer ).
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Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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I agree, screen resolution isnt important on a SMART phone. Keyword smart, its for computing and being all around practical. by that respect almost all 'Droid' series phones win hands down as well as the X10.
Although name calling is alittle childish, Apple deserves it for their behavior toward customers in this 'ipoo 4' crap.
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Although name calling is alittle childish, Apple deserves it for their behavior toward customers in this 'ipoo 4' crap.
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Childish, and fun...
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Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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It is actually 1.5 times the resolution not double.
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I really doubt they can fit a ccfl tube into a mobile phone. I think all smartphones have a led backlight.
Also nowhere on the internet is stated what sort of panel is used in the xperia x10.
on topic: All apple products are bad, only their macosx software is good. For example, their ipods have worse sound quality than other mp3 players that cost half as much. Their iphone 4 is a complete design flaw, it just sucks and android is a better os. At the moment the screen of de xperia x10 is limited to 65k colors, so we have to wait untill the update in Q3 or Q4 to see it's true potential.
And at some point it doesn't matter anymore how much pixels the screen has, because you can't see the individual pixels anymore. The screen of de X10 has enough pixels in my opinion.
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Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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How old are you? Do you expect to be taken seriously when you post things like "iPoo"?
To the OP: What's so "obviously better" about the screen? The fact that it's smaller? Both phones are incredibly clear and easy to read, not to mention bright.
To everyone: If you're so worked up over specs, why did you buy an X10? There are more things to a phone (and life, really...) than pure specs.
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petty much. can't take anyone who calls it iPoo seriously. It's iPoop.
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petty much. can't take anyone who calls it iPoo seriously. It's iPoop.
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You beat me to it! I've been calling it that for ages!
The lack of colour range on the X10 is a tad annoying, although for most things you may not even notice it. It will be nice when SE releases 2.1 and the colour support is better.
As for the iPhones resolution; it's pretty nice. From what I've seen images are very crisp and clear. That being said, I ditched the iPhone/iPod Touch for the X10 because the screen was too small, not because the resolution was. That hasn't changed.
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im waiting for my advantage to come and had a quick question for thoose that have the device already. do images look clear and crisp on the screen while browsing the web? i know its a vga res, but i get confused by the whole dpi thing. will the images look similar to the iphone images. not the browser im talking about the images themself. i read a comment saying that browsing on the advatange was like browsing on four kasier screens will the images not look better on the advantage because of the bigger screen? or will they look alot better than a 2.8 inch screen or 3.6 (i think iphone) screen?
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im waiting for my advantage to come and had a quick question for thoose that have the device already. do images look clear and crisp on the screen while browsing the web? i know its a vga res, but i get confused by the whole dpi thing. will the images look similar to the iphone images. not the browser im talking about the images themself. i read a comment saying that browsing on the advatange was like browsing on four kasier screens will the images not look better on the advantage because of the bigger screen? or will they look alot better than a 2.8 inch screen or 3.6 (i think iphone) screen?
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Images won't look 'better' as such aside from the increase in size. Fonts and icons however look infinitely better. The kaiser's screen is quarter vga, meaning its resolution (pixel count) is a quarter of the Athena's. The size of the Athena's screen is also bigger but this is not necessarily a given: the toshiba Portege g900 has an even higher resolution screen than the Athena and yet a substancially smaller display.
The iphone display is of a very different aspect ratio to the relatively 'square' athena display, being 1.5:1, so its resolution could never tally with the Athena. The slightly different dimensions work very well for the multimedia functions for which the iphone is optimised, most noticeably widescreen movie playback. Its actual resolution is 480 by 320 pixels, and it is very colourful crisp and sharp as well as transflective (meaning it can easily be seen in daylight: the athenas's display is not) and scratchproof.
The iphone aces the Athena on multimedia performance, given its great mp3, video and browsing capabilities. It does exactly what it supposed to do well. The athena is let down by an unsupported video chip, making it (and most HTC devices) not perform as well as it could with video playback. It also doesn't have as intuitive or attractive a UI as the Iphone. What it DOES have is lots of software, including alternative browsers, better offfice utilities, more potential for personalisation and a replaceable battery. The best screen between the two for me is the Iphone's, though it is 1.5 inches smaller so many would prefer the bigger athena display.
For the difference between qvga and vga though you have to see a kaiser and athena screen side-by-side
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I have included a screen capture for you, the picture is this good on my athena
(personally I think it is very good)
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I have included a screen capture for you, the picture is this good on my athena
(personally I think it is very good)
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im sorry, i just have to ask is that man in the pic hold an old revolver... jesus does the asain women carry a musket and a horn with gun powder in it. lol j/k
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im sorry, i just have to ask is that man in the pic hold an old revolver... jesus does the asain women carry a musket and a horn with gun powder in it. lol j/k
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LMAO... I was wondering the same thing.
ok thanks guys just wanted to make sure the images dont look all smashed like they do on a 2.8 inch screen.
The screen on the advantage is 3" x 4" @ 480 x 640 which is 160 pixels per inch
the screen on the iPhone is 3" x 2" @ 480 x 320 which is also 160 pixels per inch
the screen on the TytnII (kaiser) is 1.68" x 2.24" @ 240 x 320 which is 142 pixels per inch
A ppi count alone does not give a true reflection of the difference in resolution and size. On the face of it the Tilts ppi statistics seem to bear little difference to the athena's and iphone's. In reality both the Athena and Iphone have clearer, sharper and brighter screens which accomodate web pages and document viewer/editors in a more enjoyable fashion.
Htc's crappy, non-transflective Qvga screens are to me inexcusable on modern windows mobile devices and yet still they insist on shipping out these sub_standard slider devices. i had my Tilt/vario 3 for a week and thought it was cheap, poorly built and that components such as the 3.2mp camera were substandard given the expense of the device.
Anyway. If the next iphone has 3g, a 5mp camera with autofocus and dvd-quality video and a huge wealth of free software (and a group of talented developers constantly working on every programming need) and isn't just on O2 (in the UK) or AT&T (in the U.S.) and doesn't cost the earth....well i might give one a go.....
So exactly what is "HD" about the HD2? The display is 800*480 WVGA at 65k colors. The camera records at VGA res and doesnt do 720p recording so exactly why is the phone "HD2"? Whats high definition about this phone?
Or does the HD stand for something other than high definition?
Sorry if this is a noob question and I did do a search first.
I think name itself relates to the size of the screen and at the same time sharpness of the interface on that screen - not neccessarily was the resolution they were after - HD is simply catchy and good marketing move. No one ownes "HD" trademark and it was time for someone to snatch it ... to me regardless of 65k colors this phone still has better screen reproduction of picture/content than Nokia I had which claimed to be 16.7 milion colors...
You must have in mind that 800x480 on 4.3" inches gives you lot more pixel density than for instance iPhone...
Here is the comparison of ppi among some of the phones (top 5):
Nokia N900 = 267 ppi
Nexus ONE = 252 ppi
HTC HD2 = 217 ppi (pixels per inch)
HTC Hero = 187ppi
iPhone 3GS = 163 ppi
This tells you that no matter if it is 65k colors it can still look pretty damn good - which HD2 does...
Comming from a Nexus I been dissapointed with the HD2 display. I for one can tell the difference in the colors. Alot of the video on my phone which were rips from HD content look kinda washed out. Same with browsing the web. Browsing on the Nexus the pages were nice and vibrant with color and I take it that mite have been because of the LED vs the LCD on the HD2.
Even the UI on the HD2 looks kinda washed out like it could use just a lil bit more color.
As for the iphone, if I remember corectly from when I owned one, it uses QVGA which was like 320*480 so thats not even on the level of Droid/Nexus/HD2. The mytouch had better vid quality then iphone but those were at HVGA.
I dont know, some area of the HD2 looks like it could use a lil more color. Or it could just be me after using Nexus for a min and now on HD2 which is on LCD instead of the vibrant offering of LED.
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Comming from a Nexus I been dissapointed with the HD2 display. I for one can tell the difference in the colors. Alot of the video on my phone which were rips from HD content look kinda washed out. Same with browsing the web. Browsing on the Nexus the pages were nice and vibrant with color and I take it that mite have been because of the LED vs the LCD on the HD2.
Even the UI on the HD2 looks kinda washed out like it could use just a lil bit more color.
As for the iphone, if I remember corectly from when I owned one, it uses QVGA which was like 320*480 so thats not even on the level of Droid/Nexus/HD2. The mytouch had better vid quality then iphone but those were at HVGA.
I dont know, some area of the HD2 looks like it could use a lil more color. Or it could just be me after using Nexus for a min and now on HD2 which is on LCD instead of the vibrant offering of LED.
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I have not seen Nexus One in person as of yet but this article makes me not wanting it anyway... Click Here
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I have not seen Nexus One in person as of yet but this article makes me not wanting it anyway... Click Here
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Yeah I read that article a couple weeks ago. The article makes sense but actually seeing a Nexus One display is person and comparing it to HD2 and comparing to a Moto Droid, the nexus display still stands out on top.
Watching a 720p live performance down scaled to 800*480 @ 30fps @ 2500kbps on Nexus and then on HD2 you can see where the HD2 is missing colors or some areas look pale. From all the phones I been on, the Nexus has the best display I have ever seen so far on a mobile phone. If only the Nexus display was the same size as HD2 that would be perfect lol. I hope the future phones after HD2 go AMOLED or Super AMOLED because the vibrant color makes a big difference.
Darnit! and here I thought it came with a V Twin, based on the HD.
Hi guys,
I own a Xperia X10 ( latest firmware version available)and i had the opportunity yesterday to use a Samsung Galaxy S for the whole day. SGS belogs to a friend of mine.
Here are my impressions of the Sam G. S in comparasion to our "beloved" X10.
1.Screen
Colours are more vivid on SGS, but X10 has better resolution. I could differentiate the pixels on SGS, but not on X10. I'm quite picky with screen resolutions. I own a Iphone4 aswell and i can say X10 its not very behind iPhone4 concerning the screen resolution and crispness image. X10 just needs the 2.1 to boost to 16 million colours and get more vivid contrast.
2.Touch screen.
Exactly the same. They're balanced. I just wish to get MT on X10. MT can be useful in certain situations.
3. UI Performance.
Although X10 has the old 1.6 Android, i had the impression that lags less (mine doesn't lag at all and i´ve plenty of applications installed) than the SGS. I felt that the fluidity of X10 is pretty good, now that i've used my friends SGS for a whole day. Switching screens was more laggy and the refreshment rate was worse than on X10 - i couldn't believe what i was experiencing.
4. Multimedia.
Oh god. I've just to say that there isn't any phone with such a great audio quality as the X10. Miles ahead of the SGS and even Iphone4 that i also own. Crispy and balanced tones on X10. SGS was pretty average.
Video is also interesting: Refreshing rates / fps were the same watching the same movie. X10 is more crispy and the SGS has more vivid colours.
conclusion:
Android 2.1 will leverage X10 to a much higher level and it will be on pair or even better than almost all Android phones including those with the 2.2 version.
I'm not replacing my X10 for the SGS as i was planning before.
Hope it helps!
That seems like a fair comparison and is very inline with what I experienced using the AT&T Captivate. I had that device for 28 days and replaced it with the X10.
The lag is generally believed to be because of the file system Samsung chose (RFS). It's not clear why they chose RFS and the lag fixes floating around basically make a new data partition with EXT2, EXT3, or EXT4. It doesn't matter for me at this point but I'm glad I don't have to rely on Samsung to fix all the issues on their Galaxy S devices. There are many other annoyances on the Captivate but I won't bother listing them. The bottom line is that for me the X10 is a much better device.
Thank you very much for an interesting post in a long time and thank you for a good clean review! Very much appriciated
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4. Multimedia.
Oh god. I've just to say that there isn't any phone with such a great audio quality as the X10.
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REALLY??? I hope you are not talking about x10's speaker audio quality..
i LOVE x10.. but seriously.. i have to listen to everything through bluetooth headset or an earphone.. the sound is HORRIBLE when you just have it on the speaker, and it hurts my ears.. especially on higher volumes...and yes.. i've compared it to other phones.. my lg new chocolate sounds a lot better compared to x10.. (only comparing the speaker audio quality)
Seems fair both phones have their positives and negatives, i think the 2.1 update will make the x10 a lot more solid, some people think theres not much difference between between 1.6 and 2.1, but it has its obvious advantages. preferably i would have liked to have seen 2.2 on there but hey il take whatever i can get.
I have both phones and I agree with some of what your saying,yes it lags a bit and text in definitely not as sharp
but in the multimedia you made no sense... The sgs is far better when it comes to watching movies the sharpness is basically the same as the x10 plus more vibrant colours (it also has divx support out of the box). Audio quality is superior on the sgs without a shadow of a doubt even the gsm arena say so(lets not forget it has an equaliser). It has a better battery life and its fully rooted with full boot loader access you have missed out so many sections, sigh maybe i should make my own proper comparison.
I agree having owned both. SGS colors "pop" more, but the colors are not accurate at all. I used to compare to my Nexus One and colors were actually way off on the Samsung.
SGS plays just about any video codec you throw at it which is nice. Listening through headphones the X10 kills it. The screen is just a smooth I think as well.
Go on a Captivate and read web text while scrolling very slowly. There is a really bad "rolling" effect that actually bugged me while using it.
When the X10 gets 2.1 it will certainly hang with the Galaxy S models in my opinion. I just wish the Xperia had the internal storage of the SGS line.
btw, gps performance on the X10 is spot on where Samsungs tend to not be great in that area. Even after their gps "fix" it won't be as fast and accurate as the X10.
I work for AT&T and I see many problems coming in with the Captivate. The browser crashes often and the phone reboots itself a few times a day sometimes. I owned one and my gf still owns one and her's has some of these issues.
Just for clarification:
i meant that the audio quality via headphones...using high quality headphones. Yes X10 is the best in the market. I owned a Nokia N900 and i did the comparasion as well.
Sorry for disagreeing, but the X10 is also more sharp watching videos than the SGS. SGS has to saturated colours.
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Just for clarification:
i meant that the audio quality via headphones...using high quality headphones. Yes X10 is the best in the market. I owned a Nokia N900 and i did the comparasion as well.
Sorry for disagreeing, but the X10 is also more sharp watching videos than the SGS. SGS has to saturated colours.
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Well i have to disagree in the audio department but thats down to audio taste i guess. But the sgs video quality is better than the x10 i have viewed the same HD video on both, side by side and you would be a fool to tell anyone the the x10 is better to look at.
Edit: In fact im looking at both now, the sgs blows it out of the water sorry. I can upload pics if you want proof.
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Well i have to disagree in the audio department but thats down to audio taste i guess. But the sgs video quality is better than the x10 i have viewed the same HD video on both, side by side and you would be a fool to tell anyone the the x10 is better to look at.
Edit: In fact im looking at both now, the sgs blows it out of the water sorry. I can upload pics if you want proof.
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Since tihs is a VS. Thread any proof can be uploaded.
I would like to ses the pics
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Since tihs is a VS. Thread any proof can be uploaded.
I would like to ses the pics
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Sure as soon as I get home around 6 ish my 14mp cam is at home.
What is the rom from SGS? I know that Sony Ericsson have 1GB SLC, 50% to ROM and 50% to Storage, in some websites shows 15GB of ROM to Samsung, others 2GB of ROM, 16GB os MLC in SGS is for ROM+Storage like the 1GB SLC in X10?
My best mate has a SGS. We compare all the time. For those in this thread that think the SGS screen is producing more saturated colours etc...
You are just not used to the REAL colours. The SGS has the best screen on the market. It has a 50000:1 contrast ratio! The blacks are near perfect. Which makes the non-black elements "pop" off the screen.
When we both load up the exact same black screen on the same brightness, my x10 looks like it's GREY compared to his SGS. I can use my full black screen in a dark bathroom as a dull light, he can not. As for video watching, the SGS screen is much clearer and and crisp. This is because of its extremely high contrast ratio. Moreover, the x10 on 1.6 can only show 65k colours on a TFT screen. While the SGS SAMOLED screen on 2.1 uses 16million!
I love my x10 guys, but the SGS screen and display is far superior and certainly looks like it when placed side by side with an x10.
Now, when x10 finally gets 2.1 which will allow the x10 to display 16m colours, it will be a whole lot different for comparison, but it still won't match up to the super high contrast ratio that the SGS has.
Samsung uses fake colours, the sony dont have the best screen, but is good, and with great resolution, Sony have 13.3' screen with 1920x1080 in notebooks, and others better than this, Apple and Sony are the kings of resolution
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My best mate has a SGS. We compare all the time. For those in this thread that think the SGS screen is producing more saturated colours etc...
You are just not used to the REAL colours. The SGS has the best screen on the market. It has a 50000:1 contrast ratio! The blacks are near perfect. Which makes the non-black elements "pop" off the screen.
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REAL colours and 50000:1 contrast ratios? HAHAHA. First off, maybe a handful of lcds in current production produce accurate colors and they're not put in mobiles. Secondly, 50000:1 contrast ratios is a marketing gimmick and means something, but it isn't an objective measure in any sense as different companies scale it differently.
When we both load up the exact same black screen on the same brightness, my x10 looks like it's GREY compared to his SGS. I can use my full black screen in a dark bathroom as a dull light, he can not. As for video watching, the SGS screen is much clearer and and crisp. This is because of its extremely high contrast ratio. Moreover, the x10 on 1.6 can only show 65k colours on a TFT screen. While the SGS SAMOLED screen on 2.1 uses 16million!
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Now that there is a huge exaggeration. Also, video quality also varies depending on the media file, player, And screen. Either way, lcd screens on mobiles aren't that great to begin with.
I love my x10 guys, but the SGS screen and display is far superior and certainly looks like it when placed side by side with an x10.
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Maybe, but you certainly don't have any compelling arguments as to why the Galaxy S is better than the x10. Even with the increase in colors, how many can the eye actually distinguish from another? Certainly not 16 million.
Now, when x10 finally gets 2.1 which will allow the x10 to display 16m colours, it will be a whole lot different for comparison, but it still won't match up to the super high contrast ratio that the SGS has.
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Once again, contrast ratio is a subjective metric defined by manufacturers used as a marketing gimmick.
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REAL colours and 50000:1 contrast ratios? HAHAHA. First off, maybe a handful of lcds in current production produce accurate colors and they're not put in mobiles. Secondly, 50000:1 contrast ratios is a marketing gimmick and means something, but it isn't an objective measure in any sense as different companies scale it differently.
Now that there is a huge exaggeration. Also, video quality also varies depending on the media file, player, And screen. Either way, lcd screens on mobiles aren't that great to begin with.
Maybe, but you certainly don't have any compelling arguments as to why the Galaxy S is better than the x10. Even with the increase in colors, how many can the eye actually distinguish from another? Certainly not 16 million.
Once again, contrast ratio is a subjective metric defined by manufacturers used as a marketing gimmick.
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Whats your point ? the x10 has a better screen?
He is suggesting that the samsung dont have a fantastic screen as it appears to be...
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He is suggesting that the samsung dont have a fantastic screen as it appears to be...
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well in all honesty its quite an amazing screen and down playing the specs doesnt make any less amazing.
Samsung is known for it's great picture quality, from it's out of this world LED Tv's to it's cell phones.
the Samsung Galaxy is a superior phone. The X10 better get a lot better with the 2.1 upgrade. Otherwise, Im upgrading it to 2.1 just to add a selling point.
In 2009 it stays in 4th place in TVs...
1º Pionner Kuduro
2º Philips
3º Panasonic
4º Samsung
5º Sony
Something like that, so, nothing impressive... btw, i dont like the samsung colors, totally fake...
Please If I have left something out let me know!
Xperia Z
Thinner
Bigger Screen
Water Proof
Dust Proof
Multitasking Button
microSD, up to 32 GB
DragonTrail Glass
13MP Camera
HTC one
IR Blaster
Higher PPI (469)
Stereo Speakers
UltraPixel Sensor
Built-in Amplifier
Optical Image Stabilization
64GB Storage
HDR Front Camera
Snapdragon 600
Metal Exterior
Viewing Angles
Contrast
Sunlight Visiblity
HTC One is superior in almost all aspects, except no expandable memory slot and the design is not as elegant.
Really annoys me that Sony still haven't released the Xperia Z and all these more powerful phones are coming out now.
this shouting match is already going on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155877&page=7
- Xperia: dragontrail hasn't been confirmed by Sony, so we can't really know.
- Built-in amplifier ? All devices with sound output have built-in amplifiers.
- I'm not sure if UltraPixel sensor isn't just higher ISO setting by default, i don't trust marketing like that.
- Xperia also supports 64gb micro cards.
PS. We already have a thread like that - and it draws flame wars etc.
I guess you won't notice a big difference of the screen size...the 5 inch displays of the Sony has to show the buttons at the bottom. On the HTC One they don't "count" to the display.
I haven't decided yet, but I still favor the Xperia Z
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- Xperia: dragontrail hasn't been confirmed by Sony, so we can't really know.
- Built-in amplifier ? All devices with sound output have built-in amplifiers.
- I'm not sure if UltraPixel sensor isn't just higher ISO setting by default, i don't trust marketing like that.
- Xperia also supports 64gb micro cards.
PS. We already have a thread like that - and it draws flame wars etc.
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Ultrapixel is just a marketing term the sensor is as big as the sensor in the z but has far less pixels, which is for lots of reasons better, especially for a phone, coupled with de IS it is bound to be better than the z. I think it is a smart move from htc especially for a phone.
The htc one is absolutely gorgeous, the best looking phone I've ever seen, extremely premium aluminium uni body, with what will be the best screen on any phone this year. Having played with an xperia z in store, with its awful washed out screen, average camera, and a build and look that strangely doesn't feel particularly premium in real life, i'm glad I didn't pre order the xperia z
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- Xperia: dragontrail hasn't been confirmed by Sony, so we can't really know.
- Built-in amplifier ? All devices with sound output have built-in amplifiers.
- I'm not sure if UltraPixel sensor isn't just higher ISO setting by default, i don't trust marketing like that.
- Xperia also supports 64gb micro cards.
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When i say bult in amplifier I just mean its better than the one in the S3
Officaly the Xperia Z only supports 16GB
Why don't you add the Galaxy S 4 to the topic?
These topic's are so stupid, technology nowadays is going so fast... Each device you're fighting for these days will be outdated in a few months.
Just choose a device and live with it until you can get a newer one.
SO WHAT'S THE POINT!??
only supports 16GB?
get your facts right... :victory:
Akiainavas said:
- Xperia: dragontrail hasn't been confirmed by Sony, so we can't really know.
- Built-in amplifier ? All devices with sound output have built-in amplifiers.
- I'm not sure if UltraPixel sensor isn't just higher ISO setting by default, i don't trust marketing like that.
- Xperia also supports 64gb micro cards.
PS. We already have a thread like that - and it draws flame wars etc.
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Saikyo_San said:
only supports 16GB?
get your facts right... :victory:
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sorry yea its officially 32GB
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php
The HTC One also has infinity glass which reduces glare and is resistant to scratching.
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The HTC One also has infinity glass which reduces glare and is resistant to scratching.
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HTC is also much better in dropping marketing terms
any way probably a better phone.
I honestly really like both phones. There will always be advantages to one phone over the other, but honestly (unless you are a complete pessimist) both phones should be able to keep you happy for around 1-1.5 years minimum.
The thing that I want to understand is the HTC One Capacitive Buttons. You have home and back... but where is menu? Menu is probably one of the most essential buttons in android. Hopefully (this is what I would do) hitting home once would bring up menu, and double tap will go home. Something along those lines. Nothing I am really worried about anyways (AOKP will fix it haha)
I do not really think UI is something to get in a heated debate about... once custom firmware hits you can put whatever you want on. Personally I am going to rock stock AOKP on any phone I get.
Same goes for storage.... Sure XZ has a micro SD slot, but there aren't any micro SDXC cards bigger than 64gb (and might not be for a while), so really the difference between the HTC One and XZ is 64GB vs 80GB at maximum.
The only real criticism I have for Sony is the delayed North American release for the Z and especially the ZL. HTC revealed the phone today and will release in a Month. Xperia ZL was revealed in mid January and wont come out till April. There is no point to reveal an amazing new phone and then release it once it is old news. Shame on Sony for that.
Both phones are awesome, just go for the one you prefer.
Battery life is something I am finding more and more confusing with Android phones. How is it that the HTC Butterfly gets a better battery life test during video streaming than the Xperia Z by over an hour, yet has a 13% smaller battery, same processor,same GPU, and same screen resolution. This seems completely counter-intuitive.
Now for my personal opinion. I prefer the outer design and features of the ZL over the HTC One (I like the idea of as little bezel as possible), however I prefer the One screen and speakers. Not going to make any decisions till the Galaxy S4 comes out.
Just saw camera samples of "ultrapixel" phone... seriously not convinced (they have just made photos from old sensor clear)...compared http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-first-samples-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/# this snap with my old 5mp carl zeiss sensor in nokia n97( similar shot i took of my watch back in 2009)... and BOOM! HTC has gone back 4 years
maybe it will be better if they had released 8MP with ultrapixel... obviously pixels will not remain big and so called ultra pixel will lose its meaning...
well in long run when reviews come out this may not pay well for HTC.
.... happily go with XZ ...
benchmarks are only 5-10% better and that too only due to higher clock CPU .... i m not convinced with snapdragon 600 too .... it did nothing brilliant... over s4 pro... (i dont know if it saves more power)
but then obviously its my view of the summary... lets see what happens... XZ has its own flaws too.
Do you guys really like the UI ? Can't say i like it... especially the drawer. In this aspect Sony's UI is much better for me ( if they got rid of those hideous grey rectangles in the drawer - it'd be perfect for me as far as Android can go, and in terms of UI i'm a big fan of Windows Phone's consistent, simple and clear UI )
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Just saw camera samples of "ultrapixel" phone... seriously not convinced (they have just made photos from old sensor clear)...compared http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-first-samples-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/# this snap with my old 5mp carl zeiss sensor in nokia n97( similar shot i took of my watch back in 2009)... and BOOM! HTC has gone back 4 years
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Hmm... they're not bad, but certainly nothing "ultra" here. Let's wait for some more camera tests.
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Just saw camera samples of "ultrapixel" phone... seriously not convinced (they have just made photos from old sensor clear)...compared http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-first-samples-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/# this snap with my old 5mp carl zeiss sensor in nokia n97( similar shot i took of my watch back in 2009)... and BOOM! HTC has gone back 4 years
maybe it will be better if they had released 8MP with ultrapixel... obviously pixels will not remain big and so called ultra pixel will lose its meaning...
well in long run when reviews come out this may not pay well for HTC.
.... happily go with XZ ...
benchmarks are only 5-10% better and that too only due to higher clock CPU .... i m not convinced with snapdragon 600 too .... it did nothing brilliant... over s4 pro... (i dont know if it saves more power)
but then obviously its my view of the summary... lets see what happens... XZ has its own flaws too.
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I think it's gonna be more than 5-10%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=floH0ASIglU
Don't know which to chose myself. I think maybe if the One has good battery life, I'll go with it.
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Just saw camera samples of "ultrapixel" phone... seriously not convinced (they have just made photos from old sensor clear)...compared http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-first-samples-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/# this snap with my old 5mp carl zeiss sensor in nokia n97( similar shot i took of my watch back in 2009)... and BOOM! HTC has gone back 4 years
maybe it will be better if they had released 8MP with ultrapixel... obviously pixels will not remain big and so called ultra pixel will lose its meaning...
well in long run when reviews come out this may not pay well for HTC.
.... happily go with XZ ...
benchmarks are only 5-10% better and that too only due to higher clock CPU .... i m not convinced with snapdragon 600 too .... it did nothing brilliant... over s4 pro... (i dont know if it saves more power)
but then obviously its my view of the summary... lets see what happens... XZ has its own flaws too.
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I think they are quite good, for a phone hardly any noise, but still a phone no matter how cool the sensor tech (and indeed this is just going back to basics nothing new going on) the lens still sucks, if the lens suck the photo quality sucks it's simple. really great photo's on a phone is just not going to happen (if the phone needs to be thin)
It has the same GPU as the s4 pro, it is a marginal update, maybe it will perform better in some cases. the 800 series will be a different beast.
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The HTC One also has infinity glass which reduces glare and is resistant to scratching.
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I heard z has universe glass
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I think it's gonna be more than 5-10%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=floH0ASIglU
Don't know which to chose myself. I think maybe if the One has good battery life, I'll go with it.
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summary here :
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-benchmark-scores-are-here-ready-to-blow-your-mind/
looks more like a overclocking advantage except for quadrant
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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Well my friend its share you got this phone if can't tell the difference... How sharp the screen looks depends on the image it shows.... Also you can open any Internet browser on both z1 And sola As you mention, then open any web page with text And zoom in all the way if you still can't see the difference Then you need to get glasses or Have your eyes checked... Peace
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Well higher resolution means that you will see worse display from low quality material and epic quality from full HD material. DVD rips looked fine on my Xperia Play (480x854) and on XZ1 they don't look good.
If you have a big TV or monitor above 23" you surely will know what I'm talking about.
Websites, UI and stuff like this look perfectly fine. It's up to the resolution how does it look on the screen.
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I kinda noticed "grainyness" with the display when viewing videos. Really didn't like it at all, and it looked bad compared to the Xperia S I had been using a week prior.
Well, I found that while the X-Reality setting made colours "pop" in videos and pictures, things seemed to get kinda grainy looking. I've been running with it off for a few days now, and I reckon it looks much clearer now. Plus, vids and pics don't look like they have been artificially tweaked with.
This is the worst 1080p screen I have ever seen in a mobile phone.
Phone is owesome, but the screen!!!
don have any problems with the display ! its super sharp and to notice the diff. u need to view a full HD image any low quality pic will look worse as the display will DISPLAY more of it hope u got what i mean.
Another test open any PDf .. on 1080p displays you will read the texts much easier but on low ppi u will need to zoom in alittle to make it clear.
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Another test open any PDf .. on 1080p displays you will read the texts much easier but on low ppi u will need to zoom in alittle to make it clear.
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I have to agree, this screen sucks compared to any other 1080p screen. But I have to admit there are moments when the screen makes me say wow that looks amazing but unfortunately the Sun moon and stars have to line up correctly for me to say that
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shook187 said:
But I have to admit there are moments when the screen makes me say wow that looks amazing but unfortunately the Sun moon and stars have to line up correctly for me to say that
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LOL! so is not that bad..:laugh:
Hate Android Lag said:
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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Sola is 3.7 inches and has a ppi of 265.
300 dpi is the norm when printing beyond which telling the difference gets harder.
you're about 40 ppi away from being able to tell the difference. The difference will not be that significant but if you look carefully it will be there. Which to you means the display looks similar. Had the sola screen been bigger and the ppi around 200 then the difference would have been more prominent when compared to Z1.
Hate Android Lag said:
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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turn off x reality engine.
Very, very happy with the screen here, nice and bright, sharp, lovely colours, especially when coming from an amoled. Even the viewing angles are not quite as bad as some complain and through my eyes, the white looks white.
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Very, very happy with the screen here, nice and bright, sharp, lovely colours, especially when coming from an amoled. Even the viewing angles are not quite as bad as some complain and through my eyes, the white looks white.
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Other than white, everything else looked great on AMOLED. Coming from Note.
Even when Compared to Nexus 5 LCD, Z1 display lacks lusture. Nexus 5 and other 1080p display phones have amazing contrast and colors.
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Other than white, everything else looked great on AMOLED. Coming from Note.
Even when Compared to Nexus 5 LCD, Z1 display lacks lusture. Nexus 5 and other 1080p display phones have amazing contrast and colors.
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Come from a note too, honestly enjoyed Amoled, however, I am really not sure where the complaints are coming from.
There's some threads claiming not all the screens are the same, I'm either viewing my display from tired eyes or I got lucky, no idea.
Put it this way, side by side with my wife's note 3, the only thing I'm jealous about is the IR blaster.
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ishaqs60 said:
Well my friend its share you got this phone if can't tell the difference... How sharp the screen looks depends on the image it shows.... Also you can open any Internet browser on both z1 And sola As you mention, then open any web page with text And zoom in all the way if you still can't see the difference Then you need to get glasses or Have your eyes checked... Peace
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well, on the same vintage theme(stock theme), i noticed that the theme looks sharper & crispier in the z1 at sony booth. in my z1, the vintage theme doesnt looks sharp & crisp, just normal.
I checked other phones including G2, Note 3, S4. Z1 has no match. But I hear Sony uses different brands of displays for the variants of its phones. If it's true, different users from different areas around the world will have different results. I watched full hd movies, pictures, photos from z1. The results are significantly better than other high end phones. But do not expect hight quality resolution from low quality media. You can't have it. That's why SD broadcast sucks at full hd screens. I even witnessed 4K television showed a full hd video in very low qualty.