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While not wanting to reveal their source for this piece of information, msmobiles.com has gone on the record as saying that HTC will put out an OFFICIAL upgrade of Windows Mobile 7 for the HTC HD2 as soon as Microsoft makes it available.
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http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-hd2-will-officially-be-upgradeable-to-windows-mobile-7.html
I think it's worth reading some of the comments made against the "source" of that claim:
http://msmobiles.com/f/viewtopic.php?t=24691
Unless HTC go out of their minds they surely won't release a WM7 update for HD2 in Q4 2010, as by that time they will have a new flagship device ready for the holiday season.
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Unless HTC go out of their minds they surely won't release a WM7 update for HD2 in Q4 2010, as by that time they will have a new flagship device ready for the holiday season.
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I think HTC is faced with the same issue they faced with the launch of the Diamond 2 and Touch pro 2 months prior to the official launch of WM6.5. The HD2 is due to be released in the US and other territories in Q1 2010 at the same time WM7 is due to be officially announced. Faced with the same circumstances they faced with WM6.5 I expect them to act in the same way and provide a update to WM7 as otherwise sales in the markets it is due to be released in in 2010 Q1 would be likely to be severly limited. Any other course does not make much sense.
WM7 is going to be announced in Q1, but judging by the information that's been out so far it's still due to be released no earlier than Q3/Q4 2010.
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WM7 is going to be announced in Q1, but judging by the information that's been out so far it's still due to be released no earlier than Q3/Q4 2010.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here, though the official announcement was necessarily earlier. HTC has announced a future policy of releasing less models and going for more volume, so not offering a WM7 update to US Q1 purchasers would surely severly restrict potential HD2 sale volumes.
It probably makes little difference to us here I guess, as I suspect like me many early adopters would probably be ready for a new phone come this time next year in any event.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here
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May through October is 5 months. October through October is 12 months. Don't know about you, but I see one hell of a lot of difference. Also, Diamond 2 and TP2 got their upgrades at a time when they are still the top-of-the-line HTC smaller form factor and QWERTY models (i.e. the upgrade gave them a boost in the middle of their lifecycle). By the time WM7 will come out it will be time for HTC to launch a successor to HD2, so the latter will have to go out of the way. That's another huge difference in my opinion.
CAH000 said:
not offering a WM7 update to US Q1 purchasers would surely severly restrict potential HD2 sale volumes.
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I think you overestimate general consumer awareness about what WM versions exist and what the difference is. Android may be well-known because of the media hysteria, but if MS are going to advertise WM7 they have already shown that they now smartly refer to their stuff as "Windows Phone", and that will be the name by which most people will likely know phones like HD2 or HD3.
I burped so hard while I read this.
I'm not worried about a new flagship device. By the time HTC arrives with it the issues of the HD2 will be solved and be used to your hearts content. Don't forget there is a 1 GHZ processor in the HD2. The good news, and not unexpectedly, HD2 will probably be upgradable to windows mobile 7 is the logical step. The current windows mobile 6.5 has developed itself and feels like the windows vista equivalent. I think it would only be logical to argument, just like windows 7 to consider windows mobile 7 an "update" to windows mobile 6.5 rather than an "upgrade". I think it would do the HD2 justice. One can just feel that the HD2 can do more than what the current OS is portraying. It would be like extending the life of the HD2.
Wevenhuis said:
I'm not worried about a new flagship device. By the time HTC arrives with it the issues of the HD2 will be solved and be used to your hearts content. Don't forget there is a 1 GHZ processor in the HD2. The good news, and not unexpectedly, HD2 will probably be upgradable to windows mobile 7 is the logical step. The current windows mobile 6.5 has developed itself and feels like the windows vista equivalent. I think it would only be logical to argument, just like windows 7 to consider windows mobile 7 an "update" to windows mobile 6.5 rather than an "upgrade". I think it would do the HD2 justice. One can just feel that the HD2 can do more than what the current OS is portraying. It would be like extending the life of the HD2.
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Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
karan999 said:
Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Microsoft? Android?
WM 7 on HD2
I predict that long before WM 7 is officially released, we will see it on our HD2's.
I don't need to be Nostradamus to know that.
karan999 said:
Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Surely you mean if HTC give an Android update for the HD2. And even then, it wouldn't be an update...Never going to happen mate.
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Microsoft? Android?
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Xaddict said:
I predict that long before WM 7 is officially released, we will see it on our HD2's.
I don't need to be Nostradamus to know that.
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I'm agree!
I think that they probably mean an update to WM 6.5.1.
When WM7 will be released our beloved HD2 is an old piece of hardware
No win 7 for hd2....
Read http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-will-not-get-wm7-update/
Great! p1ss on my chips why don't you...
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here
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The big difference is that W7 is a new OS, while 6.5 was just an update. I don't think WM7 will be officially available for the HD2. In autumn 2010 when WM7 will ship, the HD2 will be outdated anyway, and HTC will do everything to shift customers to their new products that ship with WM7. It will be a major sales argument to go for a new phone next year. HTC would be commercially stupid to offer WM7 free of charge for their "old" phones.
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Read http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-will-not-get-wm7-update/
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Another self-appointed HTC spokesman. Why don't they simply say "we believe that ...." or "we speculate that ....". Otherwise. completely meaningless.
chainbolt said:
Another self-appointed HTC spokesman. Why don't they simply say "we believe that ...." or "we speculate that ....". Otherwise. completely meaningless.
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^^^^
+1.
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/htc-confirms-that-hd2-gets-windows-mobile-7-on-twitter
The US version of the HD2 is going to arrive in 1-2 months. It will definitely include improvements based on the lessons learned with the older european/asian version.
Are we likely to see improvements on the hardware side ?, like including a frontal camera, dedicated power button at the top of the device, capacitive buttons (like on the originial HD's), etc. ?
Any such improvements could seriously lower the value of the european version currently sold. Pretty bad for those who already own one.
Lol, I started this thread more than 2 months ago, it was so clear to me then... (so now we know it's RAM/ROM capacity... I didn't even wanted to mention such a horrible option back then)
May I be the first to congratulate myself on being the second person to contribute to this thread in 2 months!!!
So are you keeping or selling yours?
I bow to your wisdom Nostradamus...any chance of a hint at what I can expect to get next Christmas when I'm due for an upgrade?
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May I be the first to congratulate myself on being the second person to contribute to this thread in 2 months!!!
So are you keeping or selling yours?
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I'm keeping mine. My first WM7 device is probably going to be HD3, which is going to arrive not long after the US HD2 release.
I think it's obvious why HTC release the US version of the HD2 with 1GB ROM: The HD2 arrives to the US market very late, only at ~May. This means that the US market will not get HD3 (WM7 device) at ~October 2010, like the rest of the world (since it's only 5 months after the HD2 is released in the US, no way HTC will release a newer generation to the US market so soon). Still, HTC wants the US market to enjoy WM7 together with the rest of the world, and for this reason they gave the US version of the HD2 the full capability of supporting WM7 (i.e 1GB ROM, which was the only absent requirment).
So, as I see it, in November 2010, all of the world (except the USA) will have the option to enjoy WM7 with the HD3, while the US will get a WM7 upgrade for their HD2.
The european version of the HD2 will probably not get an official WM7 upgrade, due to the smaller ROM size. This will increase HD3 sales in this market.
(I will bump this thread again at November 2010).
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I think it's obvious why HTC release the US version of the HD2 with 1GB ROM: The HD2 arrives to the US market very late, only at ~May. This means that the US market will not get HD3 (WM7 device) at ~October 2010, like the rest of the world (since it's only 5 months after the HD2 is released in the US, no way HTC will release a newer generation to the US market so soon). Still, HTC wants the US market to enjoy WM7 together with the rest of the world, and for this reason they gave the US version of the HD2 the full capability of supporting WM7 (i.e 1GB ROM, which was the only absent requirment).
So, as I see it, in November 2010, all of the world (except the USA) will have the option to enjoy WM7 with the HD3, while the US will get a WM7 upgrade for their HD2.
The european version of the HD2 will probably not get an official WM7 upgrade, due to the smaller ROM size. This will increase HD3 sales in this market.
(I will bump this thread again at November 2010).
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I had direct confirmation from HTC that we WILL get a WM7 upgrade for the HD2
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I had direct confirmation from HTC that we WILL get a WM7 upgrade for the HD2
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Hope you're right. I think if the US version has 1GB ROM, it will be better suited for WM7, and HTC know it.
Well if WM7 needs anything like 500 meg to 1 gig of rom to run they can keep that bloated pile of crap .. Ill stick with what i have already ..
Hi everyone, sorry for not getting this to you sooner. The Android 2.2 software is being fully tested with UK operators and the upgrade will be available in the UK from early November. We expect all operator versions of the software to be fully tested and downloadable by the end of November. Let us know if you have any questions. Many thanks, Samsung.
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUKmobile/posts/112218492176260
Hit Twitter about 10 minutes ago too. Pity that so many misunderstood the below statement to mean that we'd have Froyo this week...
In the UK market, we are currently in final stages with our testing to ensure the upgrade is as smooth an experience as possible. Further information in relation to roll-out will be available early next week.
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Oh ffs Samsung, if it's taking this long to get sorted they'd better rename their Froyo variant 'Frank' (as in Spencer)...
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If it's for a better froyo I'm happy to wait
samsung uk message differs from rumours about samsung retweaking Froyo.
if they were retweaking, then samsung uk wouldnt possess Froyo atm to test compatibility with all operators..
In twitter: "The Froyo upgrade will be available in the UK from early November and we expect all operator versions to be available by the end of November."
Operator versions will come later
just out of curiocity, what vendor is good with firmware upgrades?
i have been through pretty much every major mobile phone manufacturer (except apple), and samsung seems to be the best (re unofficial support, leaked releases etc) when it comes to firmware upgrades
is apple so much better?
what is your experience with other vendors?
allotrios said:
just out of curiocity, what vendor is good with firmware upgrades?
i have been through pretty much every major mobile phone manufacturer (except apple), and samsung seems to be the best (re unofficial support, leaked releases etc) when it comes to firmware upgrades
is apple so much better?
what is your experience with other vendors?
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The "problem" with Android is that development is pretty much out in the open and there are multiple phone manufacturers using the OS. So people know exactly what they are waiting for and if one manufacturer releases their update earlier, the other phone owners get all jumpy
This is not an issue with Apple because no-one really waits for any updates... heh.
PS: Well, the iOS 4.0 'multi-tasking' (ahem) was kind of being eagerly awaited. Still waiting for my iPad update though.
allotrios said:
just out of curiocity, what vendor is good with firmware upgrades?
i have been through pretty much every major mobile phone manufacturer (except apple), and samsung seems to be the best (re unofficial support, leaked releases etc) when it comes to firmware upgrades
is apple so much better?
what is your experience with other vendors?
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Its hard to answer, because all the manufacturers screwed the updates, EVO 4g (htc) had problems with froyo,Droid X had problems...but I think HTC its the best
I don't think so. Too much lie.
I think we will get Froyo in 2011.
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Its hard to answer, because all the manufacturers screwed the updates, EVO 4g (htc) had problems with froyo,Droid X had problems...but I think HTC its the best
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I gave up on HTC some time ago... HTC was A LOT worse. The final "drop" was when they refused to release the 3D drivers and this community ended fixing it for them. I'll never never go back to HTC. The worst support I've ever seen...
Disclaimer: This is based on my experience and a couple of friends which also have the same opinion.
IMO, HTC decline started when they switched to Qualcomm (since htc tytn ii). And yes, HTC support is bad. No more HTC.. and maybe no more Samsung if they will not fix the annoying lags in decent time.
Screw letting operators "tweak" froyo. Orange uk filled the internal memory of the galaxy s with so much undeleatable crap you have no option but to root. Please people just do a registary hack and get normal samsung froyo. I'm in the uk and had a branded orange phone but no more
Running rooted 2.2 with lagfix
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Lol true i have like 10 pointless orange exclusive apps which wont even work via wifi only through their data plan
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Here's the full press release...
New Android 2.2 Upgrade Announced for Samsung Galaxy S
Latest Platform upgrade provides enhanced experience on the go
LONDON , UK – October 21, 2010 – Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., a leading mobile phone provider, today announces the Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) upgrade to the Samsung Galaxy S, giving users access to new features, enhanced navigation applications and improved, faster performance.
The super-slim Galaxy S is an award winning ultra-lightweight large screen Android smartphone. The Galaxy S features an incredible 4-inch Super AMOLED screen and a super-fast 1 GHz application processor, for an intelligent, immersive and integrated mobile experience. The Samsung Galaxy S has led the Android smartphone market since its UK launch this summer.
The Android 2.2 upgrade enhances the great experience of the Galaxy S, making even more of the processor speed, and the exclusive Super AMOLED screen.
The key benefits include:
Improved browser performance: enhances browsing, navigation and the 'pinch and zoom' feature
Enhanced user interface adding vivid colours and features to the android menu structure
Google Maps with Navigation: A GPS navigation system with voice guidance for a turn-by-turn navigation
Adobe Flash Player 10.1: the latest Flash Player for viewing video content
Enhanced user experience including message editing and the ability to save applications to memory card
Search in-browser: Google™, Translate, Wikipedia, Dictionary
Getting the upgrade
The Android 2.2 upgrade, will be available via Kies, Samsung's in-house software upgrade programme. Samsung has developed a brand new version of Kies which will be issued to make the upgrade experience as smooth as possible. The new version of Kies will be downloadable from www.samsungmobile.co.uk
Samsung will also be publishing video tutorials on how to upgrade, providing a step-by-step guide to the simple download process.
The Android 2.2 software is being fully tested with UK operators and the upgrade will be available in the UK from early November. We expect all operator versions of the software to be fully tested and downloadable by the end of November.
Simon Stanford, Managing Director, Mobile, Samsung UK and Ireland, comments; 'Samsung are committed to providing our customers with the best possible mobile experience, and this upgrade enhances the incredible features of the Galaxy S handset. We also want the upgrade process to be simple and hassle-free for customers, hence the new version of our Kies software and the step-by-step video guides.'
I haven't updated, I thoghut we only had to wait a few more days :/ but using my friends phone found one reason there might be more delays.
You cannot put a UK address into the current official rom (kies hack for nordic release) it only offers a state and zip code field.
and the zip code ONLY accepts numbers only (std zip code format) but in the UK we have post codes instead, using a-z,0-9. So UK users can't actually store any full address in contacts atm.
He never stores addresses so he hadn't noticed this.
well one more week and we shall see, im more than happy to have hands on the UK unbranded froyo edition lol
Jumping reg hacked froyo soon...
From having travelled south korea for a month recently I can tell you the advertising for the galaxy s is HUGE there. Samsung basically owns the country, almost all tv's washing machines and so forth are samsung.
But...There is very little market presence from htc or apple, maybe they dont realise what the western market expects from their phones nowadays?
Then again they are an absolutely massive company...how can they not have solved this by now
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I don't think so. Too much lie.
I think we will get Froyo in 2011.
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i think 2011 is spot on but in think it would be released just a shy of 2012 and gingerbread probably never as its burnt in the oven.
As long as it is before December 12th 2012, because after that, we would all die in the upcomming apocalypse and SGS would be the last of our concern when burning in eternal damnation for our sins [...]
Hi,
In the past I have tried to get the most popular cutting edge phone come upgrade time. That time is fast approaching in March.
With the release of the new multi-core android superphones. Which device is the one that people think will be supported by developers the most on here?
Your thoughts? Thanks.
none yet. Still waiting for what HTC has to offer (if any) at MWC.
aye it's still early doors I guess.
Here is a list of the upcoming WP8 devices:
Zenith - HTC (high-end device)
Accord - HTC (mid-range device)
Rio -HTC (low-end)
Sources w/ specs: link & link.
Samsung Ativ S
Samsung Focus S2 - Samsung (high-end)
Samsung Marco
Samsung Odyssey
Source w/ specs: Link, Link.
Nokia Lumia 910
Nokia Lumia 805
Nokia Lumia 820 - Apparently this is the "Arrow".
Nokia Lumia 920 With PureView and wireless charging.
Nokia Lumia 950
Nokia Lumia 1001
Nokia 510
Nokia Belle 805
Nokia Zeal - mid-range
A couple of Lumia devices are codenamed "Arrow" and "Phi" for the time being. Expected to be announced in september 5th.
Source with more information: Link.
Juggernaut Aplha - Man. unkown
Info: Link.
- Release dates will be added when devices are announced (these are still just rumor), if you know of new ones please reply or pm me to update the list.
Bundle information: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47021/windows-phone-8-phones-information
Update 1: Microsoft denies plans for company-branded smartphone. Also revealed that the companies who will be branding WP8 will be HTC, Nokia, Samsung, and Huawei. Source.
Good idea. But please include sources (for the ones you listed above: http://newbestgadget.com/news/htc-zenith-htc-rio-and-htc-accord-specs-and-features) espacially if it's still a rumor (don't whether htc officaly announced the ones you listed)
Probably, the HTC Leo (HD2)
Hope
Samsung Focus S(2)3
HTC HD7
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If the HTC Rio will run WP8, theres the possibility that all existing WP7 smartphones can also run wp8. Almost the same ****ing hardware specs(it only has 1ghz dualcore, but only 512 mb ram)! Is Microsoft ****ing kidding me?!
*srry for my bad language*
freddx said:
If the HTC Rio will run WP8, theres the possibility that all existing WP7 smartphones can also run wp8. Almost the same ****ing hardware specs(it only has 1ghz dualcore, but only 512 mb ram)! Is Microsoft ****ing kidding me?!
*srry for my bad language*
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Calm with your spaz attack, lol.
I'm waiting for the Nokia PureView with Windows Phone 8 on it which is due in Q4.
More Info Please
could you update the post with more info, im interested in the Zenith HTC
I'd be tempted by the Focus S2 if it's basically the Galaxy Note 2 with Windows Phone 8 on it. But a Nokia handset with Pureview and WP8 would be rapturous!
Ill say it again.. I WANT the Dell Wrigley with W8.. the prototype pics looked great and I love my DVP.. I will be happy with 7.8 on my DVP until another Portrait Keyboard style phone shows up.
HTC
rafa8595 said:
could you update the post with more info, im interested in the Zenith HTC
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As of this writing there is no definite HTC model yet. as usual HTC may rename the device during the launch. It could be HTC Zenith or HTC Edge whatever. It would definitely come with Quad-Core processor, Snapdragon by QualComm or the quad-core Tegra 3 by Nvidia. OMG! a 4.7" screen playing 4 video files simultaneously with 1.5 GHz speed in each.
Chipsets and gadgets companies are selling high-end products with just a very little functionality offered at the moment.
MS is definitely releasing own windows phone 8 hardware. I have confirmation from my source, that tells me it will be coming out in the fall, and it is similar size to iphone / Droid Inc.
Will be an offficial update for the HD2? Or nly through custom roms we wil run windows 8
I think that Nokia Belle 805 needs to be off the list, since Belle refers to a version of Symbian.
tukmol said:
OMG! a 4.7" screen playing 4 video files simultaneously with 1.5 GHz speed in each.
Chipsets and gadgets companies are selling high-end products with just a very little functionality offered at the moment.
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Just another spec packed mostrum but this time with wp7. Well, we'll see if a quad is useful. Up to now, I've not yet got the point...
UBNAS81 said:
MS is definitely releasing own windows phone 8 hardware. I have confirmation from my source, that tells me it will be coming out in the fall, and it is similar size to iphone / Droid Inc.
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I'm sure that you can point us to the source
ekvirus said:
Will be an offficial update for the HD2? Or nly through custom roms we wil run windows 8
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There will never be an official update for our beloved hd2. Even WP7 was (is!) inofficial. I'm pretty sure that our hd2 will get at least wp 7.8 and maybe wp 8 (but only when the other first gen receive wp8 custom roms as well)
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underworld666 said:
Probably, the HTC Leo (HD2)
Hope
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I have my phone nokia lumia 900 within 2 weeks returned to the store that could still because it was within 2 weeks.
Was very disappointed because he did not get to update WP8.
I could exchange it for a WP8 phone if they are in store
I heard and hope it is true 802.11ac will be on the new Windows 8 phones coming for the November sales season.